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JMDL Digest           Tuesday, April 6 1999           Volume 04 : Number 145



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Re: Fwd:Fleadhs (Van content)                    ["Kakki" <kakkib@att.net>]
  Halucynation                    [Michael Paz <michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net>]
  Re: most/least                    [David Wright <David.Wright@oberlin.edu>]
  Re: Faves/least faves              ["Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>]
  Re: Another most/least...and hi    ["Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>]
  Faves/Least faves             ["Ricardo le Rodent" <ricky_r@geocities.com>]
  Re: Favs/ least favs               ["Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>]
  Crazy Cries of Love                         [evian <evian@sk.sympatico.ca>]

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:19:34 -0700
From: "Kakki" <kakkib@att.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd:Fleadhs (Van content)

Thanks, Brian!  You wrote:

>> 6/5 - San Francisco, CA @ Golden Gate Park
>> Featuring Van Morrison, Elvis Costello, Ben Harper, the Cardigans, John
Lee
>> Hooker, Shane MacGowan, Luka Bloom, Saw Doctors, John Prine, Dave Alvin,
>> John Martyn, Moxy Furious, Eleanor McEvoy, Young Dubliners, Martin
Sexton,
>> Shana Morrison and Too Cynical to Cry.


Holy Moly, I better start resting up now ;-)  I can and can't see Joni at
this wild Irish brawl.  Wonder if the Chieftains may join the bill?  Or
maybe the Euro-jimdlers are finally going to get lucky with a long-rumored
Joni tour there with the Van.  I hope so - I'm ready for a new flurry of
concert tales.

Kakki

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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:39:55 -0500
From: Michael Paz <michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Halucynation

Steve wrote:
"and they are "taking deposits" on Bruce and the
> E-Streeters, CSN & Y....and Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison."

Dulson-
	I hope this isn't a hallucination. I have a "free" ticket to LA
courtesy of Frey/Walsh and I am itching to use it usefully.

Love

Michael

NP-Soulshine-Govt Mule (Live)

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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:53:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Wright <David.Wright@oberlin.edu>
Subject: Re: most/least

Bob Muller wrote:
>      
>      A little piece of ironic trivia here..."Crazy Cries" was the first 
>      single from TTT, right? Well, guess what? It didn't get mentioned as a 
>      favorite until this submittal, with EVERY OTHER TRACK from the record 
>      getting picked before it (even the lowly but proud 'Lead 
>      Balloon')...marketing snafu on Reprise's part perhaps?

	I've thought since the first listen that Man From Mars should have 
been the first single (though it's definitely not my favorite on the 
album). Not that I think it would likely have been a hit anyway, but I 
think it's the most accessible harmonically, melodically, and in its
lyrics (so plaintive). To me it has a kind of "film noir" mood in its lush
jazziness -- an immediately identifiable profile. It's a bit of a downer,
but hey.

Eager to read the most/least results tally.

- --David

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:55:18 -0400
From: "Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Faves/least faves

Azeem picked:

<<TI
Fave: How Do You Stop (may seem a perverse choice, but I just love it)>>


Bob noted:

<<Not as perverse as you might think - you're the third one to pick it as
a most fave, only the title track has more picks with 5.>>

    E.T chimes in:

    It was between How Do You Stop, Turbulent Indigo, and Boarderline for
me, but Larry's base and Wayne's sax solo on the title track never ceases to
blow me away!

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:13:24 -0400
From: "Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Another most/least...and hi

Mia Ristan wrote:

<<... I discovered the brilliace of Joni Mitchell one day when I got into my
parent's record collection. I've loved her ever since. I must have listened
to Turbulent Indigo nearly everyday for two years. I haven't had the chance
to listen to all her albums but I'm still working on my collection....
Carey (why does nobody like this one?)>>

    Welcome Mia!
    The same thing happened to me with TI. Joni is one of those rare
musicians who sounds better every time you hear her. I will never get tired
of her music for the same reason people will never tire of Beethoven....
    I think the version of Carey some people listed they don't like is from
Miles Of Aisles. The LA Express just didn't know what to do with it and this
reflected in Joni's stylization.

    E.T.

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:24:18 +1000
From: "Ricardo le Rodent" <ricky_r@geocities.com>
Subject: Faves/Least faves

I'm new to the list, but thought I'd take the opportunity of entering 
into this thread before it finished. (I've found it fascinating by the 
way and am very curious to see the final tally...)

Have only included the albums I know reasonably well.

Cheers,
Ricky,
- ------

JONI MITCHELL-
Most: Cactus Tree
Least: Pirates

CLOUDS
Most: That Song about the Midway
Least:Roses Blue

LADIES OF THE CANYON
Most:Rainy Night house /Woodstock/Circle Game
Least:Conversation

BLUE
Most:Case of You
Least:None

FOR THE ROSES
Most:Woman of Heart and Mind
Least:None

COURT AND SPARK
Most:Same Situation/People' Parties/Troubled Child
Least:Twisted

THE HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS
Most:Sweet Bird/Shadows and Light
Least:Boho Dance

HEJIRA
Most:Amelia/Refuge of the Roads
Least:Coyote

DON JUANS RECKLESS DAUGHTER
Most: Title track
Least ?

WILD THINGS RUN FAST
Most: Chinese Cafe
Least: none

DOG EAT DOG
Most:Dog eat dog
Least: Smokin

NIGHT RIDE HOME
Most: Slouching towards Bethlehem/Come in from the Cold
Least: None

TURBULENT INDIGO
Most:How do you stop
Least:Sex Kills

TAMING THE TIGER
Most:Man from Mars
Least: Face lift

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:46:16 -0400
From: "Eric Taylor" <ewwtaylor@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Favs/ least favs

CaTGirl627@aol.com wrote:

>DJRD
>Fav.  don Juans reckless daughter
>Least  Paprika plains---all the drumming

    Oh but that line "I beat the drum like war...." is SO enchanting!
Actually there is little drum playing on PP - Joni's late-70's signature.
It's mainly an out-of tune piano pounding away (brilliently I must add). Are
you sure you're not mistaking PP for The Tenth World?
    Today I was singing PP all afternoon while painting a garage door.
Suddenly the line: "But when the church got though they traded their beads
for bottles smashed on Railway Avenue" finally sunk in. Is she intimating
that Christians drove Native Americans to drink?
    Don Juan's Reckless Daughter was my very favorite Joni tune for many
many years. I think I played too much because now I like almost everything
on the album better. Otis & Marlena has really grown on me! & Jericho makes
me melt every time - by far the most difficult song I have ever learned to
sing.
    E.T.

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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:28:15 -0600
From: evian <evian@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Crazy Cries of Love

> A little piece of ironic trivia here..."Crazy Cries" was the first
>      single from TTT, right? Well, guess what? It didn't get mentioned as a
>      favorite until this submittal, with EVERY OTHER TRACK from the record
>      getting picked before it (even the lowly but proud 'Lead
>      Balloon')...marketing snafu on Reprise's part perhaps?
>
>      Bob
>
This is what I have always thought... CCOL is just not "single material"
to me, and I think it is one of the weaker songs on TTT.  From a
marketing standpoint, I think HIH, Man from Mars, or Lead Balloon would
have made great first singles from the album.  Alas, they weren't, but
the one time that I did hear Crazy Cries on the radio, I thought that if
I wasn't a Joni freak, this song would not inspire me to run out and
pick up the cd.
Evian
np:  TTT --- yep, "Lead Balloon" woulda sounded great on the radio!

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