From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #94 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, February 25 1999 Volume 04 : Number 094 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: (NJC) coffeehouses, SDS, Ferlinghetti ["Kakki" ] Baseball Paul (NJC) [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Mark Domyancich ] Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest ["Happy The Man" ] Re[2]: Love or Money [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Help UK members (NJC) ["Happy The Man" ] SNL (njc) [evian ] Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Loudest Concert, Best Concerts (SJC) [Les Irvin ] Concerts Best, Worst, SJC [Russell Bowden ] Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [TerryM2442@aol.com] NJC: Concert experiences [Kate Tarasenko ] Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 ["Peter Holmstedt" ] JC: Dirty Linen review [Kate Tarasenko ] Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Mark Domyancich ] Re: (NJC) The Lizard King Jim ["Kakki" ] NJC: Sergio Mendez [Kate Tarasenko ] joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen ["William C. Burnworth" ] Grammy Award for Lucinda [Anne Madden ] Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Strummed@aol.com] Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) [Strummed@aol.com] Re: Help UK members (NJC) [catman ] Re:some help pleeze? (NJC) [Alan ] Re: Re[2]: Love or Money [Strummed@aol.com] Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 [catman ] Re: Best Rock and Roll Movie [Mark-n-Travis ] first 45/best concert/worst concert/Joni Memories [mjc] ["Brian S. Moss" ] Night Ride Home- a confession [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Re: Joni wrote her best work while taking cocaine... ["Lance A. Miche] Broadway Bridge [evian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:16:55 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) In a message dated 2/24/99 3:14:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, dgrowe@hotmail.com writes: << Oh absolutely, accessorizing was of key importance. I was always so bummed when I would choose the "Reflective/Pensive" ganga, when the situation obviously called for the "Funny Ha-Ha" reefer ... but you live and you learn! ;-) Don Rowe >> Bet you felt the same as if you'd worn the wrong type of dinner jacket/tuxedo to the party! Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:22:05 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (NJC) coffeehouses, SDS, Ferlinghetti Pat wrote: > my own experience with activism was mostly with civil rights and marijuana legalization, though I >attended the occasional anti-war rally when I wasn't busy... being from detroit, I was more involved >with John Sinclair's white panthers and, as I stated to kakki, never had contact with sds in port >huron, but mentioned them as the one thing that might have caused people to hear of the town >where the Cellar was. Sorry Pat, I misunderstood your post back in December where I thought you said you went to a meeting where the SDS gathered and were elected the Entertainment Manager. I see now that you meant this was a different meeting at a time after the SDS had used the Cellar as their meeting place. All the activity in the Cellar was overlapping for me a little! >my own recollections of that time, colored by 30 years of living life, are that the great majority of the >'hippies' were idealistic people moved by things like you mentioned such as liberty and justice for all >as well as some compassion thrown in for good measure, but, regardless of however much they are >lionized in the age of the poitically correct, were, on the whole, sheep, all too ready to march on >washington or whoever at the drop of a peace symbol. My thoughts are that the ideals were great but like any other group or movement that gets "institutionalized" after awhile (think of organized religions and political parties), it eventually either veers off onto other tangents, loses some of its original meaning or becomes stale. Many people were only in it for the party. I wish I could remember the exact year - think it was around 1988 - that Rolling Stone published the most interesting and comprehensive article I've ever read on the SDS and the Weathermen. And speaking of coffeehouses and the beat poets, I just learned through the LACMA magazine that Lawrence Ferlinghetti will be doing a reading there on his 80th birthday on March 17th. It is titled "Painting Poems." I would love to attend but St. Patrick's Day is a holy day of obligation in my family ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:07:36 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Baseball Paul (NJC) Paul spits, grabs his crotch, winds up and says: <> LOL Paul! And you're half right! I *do* have too much time on my hands...in reality I was attempting to discuss a Joni issue, it seemed like all there was was NJC. Besides, I enjoy song dissecting, you don't, that's cool. I *am* looking forward to the G-Braves baseball season, but as far as the majors, I'll wait for the series...:~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:49:01 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine Hey everyone- There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. One is a poster with Dylan (I think) the C&S photo and a recent color photo. It's worth tearing it out of your library's copy! (hehehe). Mark NPIMH-Peter Frampton ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:50:08 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest Spoke with Jody Denberg the production manager at KGSR. He also did the Words & Music interview with Joni. We spoke about upcoming concerts and of course he let me down by saying they would have Joni in Austin if she would tour, but she won't. What I wanted to share is the job he is doing with KGSR. He continues to play Joni on a day to day basis. If you get a chance check out their website list of top 107 albums of 1998, top 107 songs and top 10 concerts. cool stuff. Joni finished 97 on song "Crazy Cries of Love" http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/musicpoll.htm 69th on CD "Taming the Tiger" http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/cd98.html And since she did not play in Austin she did not make the top 10. http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/concerts98.html check out this blurb: Check out the Rolling Stone, Issue #785, April 30, 1998 - page 27. There is a sidebar within the "Corporate Radio Still Sucks" article titled "Ten Stations That Don't Suck" The piece starts off by saying "Not everybody is playing the Nineties Rock Radio game.." and goes on to list 107.1 KGSR as #1, stating "It's art on the radio..." So if you are in Austin you know what radio station to turn in to. Peace, Craig NP: Yes - Roundabout ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:33:16 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re[2]: Love or Money Kakki wrote: <> Thanks for your (as always) thorough thoughts Kakki. (And I'm not being a wise guy, I mean it! ;~)) It sounds like the song is one of her "character studies" (ala Sunny Sunday) then and not really written with someone specific in mind. I just wondered if Joni was writing herself in as the girl that the songwriter was pining for, which made me think of JT, but he didn't really slip through the cracks, did he? Maybe she had seen another guy playing real good for free... Bob NP: Led Zep, "The Battle of Evermore" (Is there a story behind how they got Sandy Denny on this record?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:53:18 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Help UK members (NJC) My son is traveling to London for Spring Break to sing with his school's choir. He is picking up a bunch of CD's for me that I cannot get over here. Here is the question: What is HMV he is going to see a band called Delirious and they are doing an in store there. I was thinking it was like a Virgin Megastore but have no idea. Sorry if stupid question. Peace, CRaig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:03:34 -0600 From: evian Subject: SNL (njc) > Typically, you're not gonna get turned on to an artist > because of their SNL performance, it's only interesting if > you're familiar with the artist's work. > This is usually true, but SNL is actually how I finally got into Hole (oh my, what a loaded choice of words!). I was flipping around one night and caught Hole on SNL singing "Doll Parts" and I ran out the next morning to track down the cd. Actually, SNL also got me into 10,000 Maniacs, now that I think about it, when I saw them on there doing "Like the Weather". Both Hole and Maniacs are faves of mine now. However, the show did encourage me to buy some duds, most notably Spin Doctors. I saw them on there, thought they had a catchy song, and now that damn cd sits there with the rest of my "what the hell was I thinking" purchases, like the KLF, X's "Hey Zeus" (what a disappointment), and..... I can't believe I am admitting this... "Songs in the Key of Springfield" by the Simpsons... for some reason, I thought it was cool at the time to have "Happy Birthday, Lisa" on cd... Happy Wednesday, Listers! Evian np: "Bloodletting" -- Concrete blonde ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:10:02 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine Mark Domyancich wrote: > Hey everyone- > > There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room > on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. One is a poster with Dylan (I > think) the C&S photo and a recent color photo. It's worth tearing it > out of your library's copy! (hehehe). You go right to your room. Librarian Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:11:03 -0500 From: Tad Davis Subject: Morning Morgantown Long time lurker, first time poster. Can anyone tell me or speculate as to which Morgantown, Morning Morgantown refers? I had read on someone's web page once that she had attended WVU (West Virginia University in Morgantown, WV) for a semester, but the guy was from Morgantown so I suspect it is a local urban legend. However, I also heard from a early 70s musician from the area that he had heard that another Morgantown musician had originally written the song (the liner notes have the lyrics 1967 Siquomb Publishing, the same as the rest of the songs that Joni wrote). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks - tad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:46:02 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Loudest Concert, Best Concerts (SJC) At 11:10 AM 2/24/99 , Randy wrote: >> Also, during "Number One" >> Sting's female backup singer (name?) sang the "got to hold your head up >> higher" part. And David added: > Sting's (then-)backup singers were Janice Pendarvis and Dollette >McDonald. Don't know which sang with Joni. It was Dolette. Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:55:21 -0800 From: Russell Bowden Subject: Concerts Best, Worst, SJC Loudest: Jefferson Airplane/Starship...whatever Golden Gate Park '85 or '86. Outdoors and my ears rang for a couple of days. Wow! Best Solo: Dan Fogelberg, (Innocent Age) Portland, ME, 1980. Most Fun: Jackson Browne (Hold On) Portland, ME. 1980 Strangest: (Sorry) Joni Mitchell, WTRF Boston Common 1983. She left the stage a couple times. It was broiling hot and most of the crowd REALLY sucked! She finally came back alone and blew the faithful away. I mean, TOTALLY! I loved it, but it was odd. Right Rickie Lee??? Most Exciting: Jethro Tull, (Stormwatch) 1979 Hollywood (FL) Sportatorium. The last good Tull album (IMO). Great show, theatrics, etc. Best of All Time: CSN, 1982 (Daylight Again) Redrocks, CO The full moon rose on the eastern prarie at 7:30PM, just as they came on with Turn Your Back on Love. Unbelievably beautiful sounds from these guys. (Best boy group!) Gorgeous early September evening. Goose bumps......all over! There were sugar cubes. Love, Russell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:04:06 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine In a message dated 2/24/99 3:51:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, Harpua@revealed.net writes: << There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. >> I think I saw that! Isn't that the issue on teenagers? Joni's photo was easily recognizable. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:22:35 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: NJC: Concert experiences I have to second the emotion about this list -- I'm always happily surprised to connect with so many gracious, funny and knowledgeable people, both near and very far away. How cool! Thanks! On to concerts: One of the best/worst was at the Oakland Coliseum circa 1984 -- it was one of those excessive band-fests that would have kept the whole joint rockin' had it not been mid-August and no shade. Oingo Boingo yelled at the toasted audience for not dancing at noon; the Police were great; many others but I can't remember; and I got a swift elbow to the solar plexus during David Bowie that, had it not been so crowded, would have dropped me like a sack of flour. (This was how this asshole dealt with the crowd situation!) As it was, I started out at mid-field, and just by the surge of waving bodies, wound up at the stage where The Thin White Duke vamped for photos by his adoring nation. Other great ones -- front row at the Rainbow in Denver ('82 and '83) for Miles Davis, also willingly posing for photos for me, back when it was okay. Two or three intimate club dates for Art Blakey (at some bar in Chicago) that were incredible, but are these "concerts" if they're in such a small and tasty venue? The perfect one is a tie between Joni at the Garden/Bethel last August, and WOMAD in Denver in '94, for which I had to take the following day off work so as not to puncture the sweet haze too abrupty -- front row for Peter Gabriel (and others). I was in hog heaven, and Robbert knows what I mean! Worst, but then I hardly count it as an actual concert: A very funny/sarcastic friend got free tickets and dared me to go with him to see Chuck Magione -- as soon as he hugged his trumpet for the audience during the first tune, were were outta there! Kate in CO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:17:34 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC) Craig wrote: >Favorite amp concert: Tie Genesis "Lamb lies down tour" & Loggins & Messina >"Santa Barbara County bowl" I saw Loggins & Messina in Arizona '72 on their first concert tour after they released "Sittin' In". It was the most stupendous and exhilarating concert I ever saw in college. They played like they'd been together for years. My other top college concert was James Taylor in '71 - absolutely flawless and riveting. The loudest concert for me was, strangely, Jean Luc Ponty at the Golden Bear sometime in the '70s. My boyfriend and I couldn't even enter the building - it was piercing our eardrums outside on the street so we had to leave. I was so disappointed because I had looked forward to seeing him for a long time. >Worst club: Sorry kakki but Bobby Caldwell in some dive in Portland. I was >completely disappointed and I think he was too because he only did about a >75 minute set. He even stopped in the middle and quit playing one song. >Best friend dragged me to this said I loved it, we played his music in the >locker room before games. Give him another try if you get the chance. I've never seen a bad performance out of him. Even one time when he was down with the flu and coughing and wheezing between songs, he still gave a top performance and played for 2 hours. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:31:05 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 Joni Mitchell - Playing With Words And Music ( Image Entertainment - Video / DVD ) For some artists, the big stadium show is the best way to show their mettle, but for others, a more close-knit surrounding is just the ticket. Joni Mitchell is a shining example of that second type, and the Warner Bros soundstage in Burbank, California is the perfect stage for her to take fans through four decades of folkrock in this concert video. The concert is an intimate affair by all counts. Mitchell, acoustic guitar in hand and backed by a terrific ensemble, plays against a backdrop of her own paintings during the show. Viewers are also taken on a walk through a gallery display of some of her other work at the beginning of the program. Fans will instantly recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy Cries Of Love". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:36:04 EST From: Strummed@aol.com Subject: Re: Love or Money Hold it. stop the presses. I can excuse the term jim morrison as an "army brat" as a blanket statement. Truth be known he was the son of a career Navy Captain, so hes was a Navy Brat. Otherwise the boys downtown don't like that. Besides his former boyhood home is only about 8 blocks away from where I live, 1717 Alameda Ave. Alameda ca. and I know and knew personal freinds of his. Not that i'm a Morrison fan by any stretch of the imagination, just like to keep and attempt to get the facts straight. No disrespect. No brag Just fact. (Guns of Will Sonnet) starring the guy that played the real McCoy. My aim is true, Alison. KINGS X to all and to all a good night . yours musically, CHRI$. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:40:29 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 At 03:31 PM 2/24/99 , Billboard wrote: >Fans will instantly >recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably >sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy >Cries Of Love". I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni to "Tiger Bones". Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:46:06 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: JC: Dirty Linen review William wrote: "...the writer of that review,Mitch Ritter, requested a copy of that review, which meant I actually had to write one! Luckily, thanks to the loquaciousness of the jmdl, I put one together and sent it on..." William -- Please do copy the list with your review! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:47:44 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine It sure is! I haven't read the entire article yet, but if I find out that the editors found out one of The Teenagers 100 Secrets, I'll have to bash some heads in. :-) Mark StillPIMH-Peter Frampton At 5:04 PM -0500 2/24/99, TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > I think I saw that! Isn't that the issue on teenagers? Joni's photo > was easily > recognizable. > > Terry ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:40:06 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (NJC) The Lizard King Jim CHRI$ wrote: >Hold it. stop the presses. I can excuse the term jim morrison as an "army >brat" as a blanket statement. Truth be known he was the son of a career Navy >Captain, so hes was a Navy Brat. Otherwise the boys downtown don't like >that. No, they don't! Thanks for the clarification! > Besides his former boyhood home is only about 8 blocks away from where I >live, 1717 Alameda Ave. Alameda ca. and I know and knew personal freinds of >his. This is very cool. I'd love to hear any Jim Morrison tidbits from you. Crosby recently wrote a great song about Jim titled "Morrison" which is on the CPR album. "He was lost and I don't think he wanted it that way like a gull blown inland on a stormy day Lost in round one spitting out the peices of his teeth lost in a Paris graveyard carrying his own wreath And I have seen that movie and it wasn't like that he was mad and lonely and blind as a bat To the bridge and the falling tree Too deaf to hear his own song, you see How does anyone get there, we may never know How they got that far, or what made them go But he had flown from his homeland You could see him there, A gull circling In the high desert air And somehow I have to learn from this Cause I can hear him cry and feel the hiss Of the wind in his feathers and the sand on his feet As he dies in the desert on that Paris street" Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:01:12 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: NJC: Sergio Mendez Did I say that this list rocks? Kakki, THANKS for all the info! Just love the class, clues and laughs I get from your presence on the jmdl! :^) Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:22:03 -0600 From: "William C. Burnworth" Subject: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------C8CC734248A106D1238F1520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------C8CC734248A106D1238F1520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="joni review.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="joni review.txt" Subject: Joni review Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:43:37 -0600 From: "William C. Burnworth" To: harper@teleport.com Dear Penny, Here's my review of Joni Mitchell's "Taming the Tiger," which might help educate certain individuals incapable of recognizing genius when they hear it.(my partner Tim slipped that in) "Taming the Tiger," Joni Mitchell's 17th studio release, begins with "Zulu Tango," a sonic image of a wild helicopter ride past a rollercoaster, that shifts into a Cab Calloway influenced tune. Thanks to her new guitar, the VG8, which holds her tunings electronically and allows the mixing of individual strings to separate channels, she has created a new orchestra of sounds that offer listeners a unique work of maturity. Joni has called this a "composed" album, and though she has written, produced and arranged as usual, here for the first time she provides most of the bass. Wayne shorter adds brilliant sax on five of the cuts, also Mark Isham on trumpet for "Stay in Touch." Combined with her keyboard work, designed to sweeten the mix, this may at first seem a bit homogenized to ears more accustomed to acoustic work. The rewards are great, however, for those who who understand that music can become progressively more evocative with each listen. Joni offers "My Best to You", as a gift to fans who asked her to give them hope through her songs. "Stay in Touch" details the need for clarity in the first swells of new relationship's emotion. "Man from Mars," her ode to a cat lost for seventeen days, features an incredibly deep mix, and then there is her exquisite instrumental version of the title track, emerging a minute after the last vocal. Of the ten songs, five are about love. two are angry, one political. All this and a beautiful package as well, one that includes twelve reproductions of her paintings accompanying the lyrics. Perhaps her concluding verse from "Stay in Touch" offers sage advice to those unable to give great music its deserved attention: We should just surrender/let fate and duty shape us/Let light hearts remake us. We can all look forward to the album of standards Joni Mitchell has announced she'll tackle next. William Burnworth Covington, LA - --------------C8CC734248A106D1238F1520-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:31:25 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC) In a message dated 2/24/99 5:29:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << I saw Loggins & Messina in Arizona '72 on their first concert tour after they released "Sittin' In". It was the most stupendous and exhilarating concert I ever saw in college. They played like they'd been together for years. My other top college concert was James Taylor in '71 - absolutely flawless and riveting. >> I also saw L&M that tour, at Ravinia in north suburban Chicago on a beautiful sumer evening , with Leo Kottke opening. I had pretty good seats, but it was strange to see a lot of the older suburban North Shore set leave after Kottke's performance. Some friends of mine had bougth tickets to sit on the lawn, but asked for and received ticket stubs from some folks who were leaving and came to sit near me. NPIMH -- Vahevalla -- Loggins and Messina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:11:46 -0500 From: Anne Madden Subject: Mary Black (NJC) Catharine Turley wrote - >Larry Klein produced Mary's most recent album, "Shine." Its a real >stylistic departure from most of her previous work (and has not been met >with entirely positive responses from long-time MB fans). But Mary had >good things to say from the stage about Larry. She called him "the >wonderful Larry Klein," and then said "well, I'm sure you all know all >about him and how fantastic he is." Catharine, I love Mary Black and have several of her albums. Shine is the only one I don't like. It is such a radical departure for her. I personally don't think this kind of music (jazz) suits her style of singing. I have tried to like it but just can't warm to it. My favourite Mary Black songs are Only A Woman's Heart and Sonny which were huge hits for her in Ireland. Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:16:47 -0500 From: Anne Madden Subject: Grammy Award for Lucinda Just heard that Lucinda has won Grammy for Best Contempory Folk album. Thank you Lord. Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:18:58 EST From: Strummed@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine saw that also and a fine photo of joni it is and i didn't have 1 until i enlarged that 1 from life magazine 500 times and now its above the computer. comeon flattop groovinup slowlyy joojoo eyeball holy roller. wheres' he get this stuff from don pardo ? yours, CHRI$. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:12:30 EST From: Strummed@aol.com Subject: Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) GANGA, 1 VEGTABLE MATTER, 1 chri$. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:24:56 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Help UK members (NJC) The HMV store is a big store in Oxford Street-similar to Virgin. Happy The Man wrote: > My son is traveling to London for Spring Break to sing with his school's > choir. He is picking up a bunch of CD's for me that I cannot get over here. > Here is the question: What is HMV he is going to see a band called > Delirious and they are doing an in store there. I was thinking it was like > a Virgin Megastore but have no idea. Sorry if stupid question. > > Peace, CRaig - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:26:24 -0600 From: Alan Subject: Re:some help pleeze? (NJC) Kerri, I did a double-take the first time I heard that commercial; it sounds exactly like Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, but it's most likely just somebody trying to sound like Eddie Vedder. I just love that band. My favorite album of theirs is the one that received the least respect - "No Code." The critics tore it up because it was all over the map stylistically, but I thought it was a work of genius, and that the various styles only highlighted their diverse talents. Oh well, I've always been the strange one. Anyway, I would try hitting the web site of whatever company runs that commercial. There may be a customer service email address, and you might get an answer that way. Alan KerriLynn@aol.com wrote: > i'm trying to find the tape (single) or cd of that song from the > current "flat > t.v. commercial".... it's a cover of the beatles' "getting better"... > any info would be greatly appreciated... like who the heck is singin' > it!! or > anything else for that matter.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:50 EST From: Strummed@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Love or Money Since we're on the subject, can you tell me who JONIS' singing about in "EDITH AND THE KING PIN" ? THANX , chri$. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:28:39 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 Oooh Les! I didn't know you could be facetious! Les Irvin wrote: > At 03:31 PM 2/24/99 , Billboard wrote: > >Fans will instantly > >recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably > >sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy > >Cries Of Love". > > I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni > to "Tiger Bones". > Les - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:23:37 EST From: Strummed@aol.com Subject: Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest Austin you say ? then i know there playing there fair share of KINGS X and the GALACTIC COWBOYS. I certainly hope so at least. yours musically, CHRI$. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:23:29 +0000 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Re: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen Would someone mind sending the Dirty Linen rebuttal to the list as plain inline text? My poor little 3.1 mail reader doesn't understand the attachment. Thanks. Deb Messling ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:17:32 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 > I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni > to "Tiger Bones". Yes! Joni KARAOKE is finally here! - -- Phyliss pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:38:04 -0500 From: patrick leader Subject: FW: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen i took care of this. really nice writing, william - -----Original Message----- From: Deb Messling [SMTP:messling@enter.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 3:23 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen Would someone mind sending the Dirty Linen rebuttal to the list as plain inline text? My poor little 3.1 mail reader doesn't understand the attachment. Thanks. Deb Messling ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:05:24 -0800 From: Mark-n-Travis Subject: Re: Best Rock and Roll Movie Strummed@aol.com wrote: > > good choices. CHRI$ I forgot 'Stop Making Sense'. I saw one of the live performances from that tour & it ranks as one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Others would be Joni at the Gorge May of 98 (of course), Bette Midler at the Paramount in Seattle in '84. I did see Jefferson Starship a couple of times in the 70's but the first time my 'creativity' was so enhanced that I don't remember much of it & the second was in Ames Iowa and I was seated behind the stage. We could see pretty good though. I was yelling 'All right, Grace!' as Ms. Slick exited the stage practically right underneath where we were sitting and she turned around and waved. This prompted yours truly to scream 'love you!' and I *know* she heard me. Really. She did. I know it. I'm sure of it. She remembers it too. I know she does. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:03:10 -0600 From: "Gerald Hillman" Subject: Back to back Joni I heard two Joni songs back to back on CBC Radio 1's "This Morning". They played "Impossible Dreamer" from "Misses", then "River" from "Hits". I get such a thrill out of hearing Joni's music on the radio (and not the standard BYT and BSN). It's like confirmation from radio-land (as though they were an authority to be reckoned with) that Joni's music is appreciated by people other than us fanatics. It gave me thrill, t'is all. I'm sure this has nothing to do with current threads, but I'm thankful for the venue to express my Joni-isms. "...weaving a course of grace and havoc...." Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:45:15 -0500 From: "Brian S. Moss" Subject: first 45/best concert/worst concert/Joni Memories [mjc] I've been lurking here for about a week, and found your discourses very interesting. Several threads have almost forced me to post...so here's a few: Some one commented about first 45's indicating ones age. Well, try this one Tutti Fruiti by Little Richard. Honestly can't recall first LP but a good guess would be either Peter, Paul and Mary or Bill Cosby. Never owned a 12", Did have 8 tracks[even owned an 8 track recorder at one time]. Still have a lot of Reel to Reel recordings, mostly of entertainers from the Coffeehouse days. One is a 3" R/R of Joni from 1965 or 66, but audio is so bad I'm probably the only one who could identify it as her. I was fresh out of High School and Good audio was not affordable. I have a Moderately large LP collection of an eclectic nature, But couldn't tell you when or where most were acquired. I will say that IN HARMONY is one of them and was loved by my wife and I as well as my son. I envy the sharpe and clear recollection that so many of you display; wasn't particularly good at history either. Most of my observed Musical experiences were of the coffeehouse variety and later years Musicals. I guess I've never forgiven the Large concert venues for displacing the Coffeehouses of my youth. Forced to choose: Seeing the Preservation Hall Jazz Band in an Outdoor amphitheater [several times] would have to be close to the best. Actually got to Preservation Hall during Marti Gras before it was closed. Worst was at the same outdoor venue,Meadowbrook in Rochester MI, for Bob Dylan. Opening for Bob was an old do-wop group from Motown, they were excellent. Dylan came on did a short acoustic set[15 minutes] took a break [30 minutes] and did 20 minutes amplified and while the crowd waited for him to return I looked over the back of the Hill to see his bus leave. My wife dubbed it the 'bend over for Bob'tour. Now, I know that this is the Joni Mitchell Discussion List; so let me tell you some of what I remember about Joni. My very first contact with Joni was in the early 60's at a small coffeehouse in Port Huron MI. It was a very small building, actually a part of the Port Huron Power Squadron, and two students at the Port Huron Junior college had decided to try a coffehouse in Port Huron. Port Huron had not been in the forefront of anything since the turn of the century[the last one]and this was a bold move. A junior in High School I was thrilled to have the opportunity to see real folk singers in person and sit on the floor amongst 'college students'. In my several trips to LA BODEGA, nothing impressed me as much as the singer with the long blond hair and 'bell'tone voice who played the guitar in a very strange way. Her name was Joni Anderson and she was from Saskatoon [where ever that was] in Canada. I had never heard a voice with absolutely 'no' overtones. Her notes were sooo clean and clear that they could cut through steel and your heart at the same time. I had the privilege to hear her sing many times over the next decade, but always in a coffeehouse setting. Since then I haven't heard her perform in person. I do have many, not all, of her records and still enjoy listening to them; but they will, couldn't ever, compare to my memories of the coffehouse days. Sorry, got carried away.....sign of aging Brian Moss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:34:53 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Night Ride Home- a confession Admittedly Ive been called an eccentric. However, this morning was my typical commute into the office of my company and I tend to play a tape to get in the mood. When I first joined this list I only had three Joni albums and was familiar with four. two years later and I now have 14.[It took that long for Jonis CDs to appear in Green Apple Records used CD bin.] Anyway I finally got around to listening to Night Ride Home. What a treat. I wont bore the listers with my personal opinion of the record as a whole. BUT, I will admit that Passion Play has been a favorite of mine for some time since I got the CD Misses(?) or is it Hits (?). Anyway, this morning I hit the road and I played Night Ride Home. To make a long story short I could not stop playing the song throughout my entire trip to the office. I kept playing it over and over. What a magnificent song. the crickets chirping in the background as a rhythm track. Just great. I have been known to tape an entire side of a tape with only one song such as 'Cant Explain' by the Who. I never get tired of a great song. Actually the entire album is fantastic. Maybe one song is ordinary but the rest are among her better efforts. I am also (let the flames begin) growing in my appreciation of Larry Klein. If he is influencing her production he is doing a great job here. I have heard some criticism of his "meddling" But some of this production is classic LA production values. Clean and deep and sparkling. I have been buying her albums now on an ongoing basis and I have to rank this one high on the list. Im not sure when NRH was created on the timeline but I really find the majority of the songs to be superlative. I might just play that one song again all the way to work tomorrow. The last joni song that got me like this was carey. As always I marvel at the ability to compose a song this good after you have already created 100 others before it. Joni if you ever visit this list here's a big kiss for Night Ride Home. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:17:07 -0800 From: "Lance A. Michel" Subject: Re: Re: Joni wrote her best work while taking cocaine... - --I'm glad I'm as drugged as creatively as I can be.........;-) - -- Lance A. Michel: - -There are as many shades to reality as there are windows unto the soul- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:19:19 -0600 From: evian Subject: Broadway Bridge Hi peoples, In case anyone is interested, here is a site with pics of the Broadway Bridge... However, I warn you, they are kinda crappy pics, not as nice looking as S'toon really is. http://duke.usask.ca/~lowey/saskatoon/tour/broadway.html Evian, who has to be up in 7 hours to go to S'toon.... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #94 ************************* There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. 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