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JMDL Digest Thursday, February 25 1999 Volume 04 : Number 094
The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Re: (NJC) coffeehouses, SDS, Ferlinghetti ["Kakki" ]
Baseball Paul (NJC) [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Mark Domyancich ]
Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest ["Happy The Man" ]
Re[2]: Love or Money [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
Re: Help UK members (NJC) ["Happy The Man" ]
SNL (njc) [evian ]
Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Jerry Notaro ]
Re: Loudest Concert, Best Concerts (SJC) [Les Irvin ]
Concerts Best, Worst, SJC [Russell Bowden ]
Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [TerryM2442@aol.com]
NJC: Concert experiences [Kate Tarasenko ]
Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC) ["Kakki" ]
Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 ["Peter Holmstedt" ]
JC: Dirty Linen review [Kate Tarasenko ]
Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Mark Domyancich ]
Re: (NJC) The Lizard King Jim ["Kakki" ]
NJC: Sergio Mendez [Kate Tarasenko ]
joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen ["William C. Burnworth" ]
Grammy Award for Lucinda [Anne Madden ]
Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine [Strummed@aol.com]
Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC) [Strummed@aol.com]
Re: Help UK members (NJC) [catman ]
Re:some help pleeze? (NJC) [Alan ]
Re: Re[2]: Love or Money [Strummed@aol.com]
Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999 [catman ]
Re: Best Rock and Roll Movie [Mark-n-Travis ]
first 45/best concert/worst concert/Joni Memories [mjc] ["Brian S. Moss" ]
Night Ride Home- a confession [MDESTE1@aol.com]
Re: Re: Joni wrote her best work while taking cocaine... ["Lance A. Miche]
Broadway Bridge [evian ]
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:16:55 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC)
In a message dated 2/24/99 3:14:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dgrowe@hotmail.com writes:
<< Oh absolutely, accessorizing was of key importance. I was always so
bummed when I would choose the "Reflective/Pensive" ganga, when the
situation obviously called for the "Funny Ha-Ha" reefer ... but you live
and you learn! ;-)
Don Rowe >>
Bet you felt the same as if you'd worn the wrong type of dinner jacket/tuxedo
to the party!
Paul I
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:22:05 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: (NJC) coffeehouses, SDS, Ferlinghetti
Pat wrote:
> my own experience with activism was mostly with civil rights and marijuana
legalization, though I >attended the occasional anti-war rally when I wasn't
busy... being from detroit, I was more involved >with John Sinclair's white
panthers and, as I stated to kakki, never had contact with sds in port
>huron, but mentioned them as the one thing that might have caused people to
hear of the town >where the Cellar was.
Sorry Pat, I misunderstood your post back in December where I thought you
said you went to a meeting where the SDS gathered and were elected the
Entertainment Manager. I see now that you meant this was a different
meeting at a time after the SDS had used the Cellar as their meeting place.
All the activity in the Cellar was overlapping for me a little!
>my own recollections of that time, colored by 30 years of living life, are
that the great majority of the >'hippies' were idealistic people moved by
things like you mentioned such as liberty and justice for all >as well as
some compassion thrown in for good measure, but, regardless of however much
they are >lionized in the age of the poitically correct, were, on the whole,
sheep, all too ready to march on >washington or whoever at the drop of a
peace symbol.
My thoughts are that the ideals were great but like any other group or
movement that gets "institutionalized" after awhile (think of organized
religions and political parties), it eventually either veers off onto other
tangents, loses some of its original meaning or becomes stale. Many people
were only in it for the party.
I wish I could remember the exact year - think it was around 1988 - that
Rolling Stone published the most interesting and comprehensive article I've
ever read on the SDS and the Weathermen.
And speaking of coffeehouses and the beat poets, I just learned through the
LACMA magazine that Lawrence Ferlinghetti will be doing a reading there on
his 80th birthday on March 17th. It is titled "Painting Poems." I would
love to attend but St. Patrick's Day is a holy day of obligation in my
family ;-)
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:07:36 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Baseball Paul (NJC)
Paul spits, grabs his crotch, winds up and says:
<>
LOL Paul! And you're half right! I *do* have too much time on my hands...in
reality I was attempting to discuss a Joni issue, it seemed like all there was
was NJC. Besides, I enjoy song dissecting, you don't, that's cool.
I *am* looking forward to the G-Braves baseball season, but as far as the
majors, I'll wait for the series...:~)
Bob
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:49:01 -0600
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine
Hey everyone-
There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room
on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. One is a poster with Dylan (I
think) the C&S photo and a recent color photo. It's worth tearing it
out of your library's copy! (hehehe).
Mark
NPIMH-Peter Frampton
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:50:08 -0600
From: "Happy The Man"
Subject: Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest
Spoke with Jody Denberg the production manager at KGSR. He also did the
Words & Music interview with Joni. We spoke about upcoming concerts and of
course he let me down by saying they would have Joni in Austin if she would
tour, but she won't.
What I wanted to share is the job he is doing with KGSR. He continues to
play Joni on a day to day basis. If you get a chance check out their
website list of top 107 albums of 1998, top 107 songs and top 10 concerts.
cool stuff.
Joni finished 97 on song "Crazy Cries of Love"
http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/musicpoll.htm
69th on CD "Taming the Tiger"
http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/cd98.html
And since she did not play in Austin she did not make the top 10.
http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/contests/concerts98.html
check out this blurb:
Check out the Rolling Stone, Issue #785, April 30, 1998 - page 27. There is
a sidebar within the "Corporate Radio Still Sucks" article titled "Ten
Stations That Don't Suck" The piece starts off by saying "Not everybody is
playing the Nineties Rock Radio game.." and goes on to list 107.1 KGSR as
#1, stating "It's art on the radio..."
So if you are in Austin you know what radio station to turn in to.
Peace, Craig
NP: Yes - Roundabout
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:33:16 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: Love or Money
Kakki wrote:
<>
Thanks for your (as always) thorough thoughts Kakki. (And I'm not
being a wise guy, I mean it! ;~))
It sounds like the song is one of her "character studies" (ala Sunny
Sunday) then and not really written with someone specific in mind. I
just wondered if Joni was writing herself in as the girl that the
songwriter was pining for, which made me think of JT, but he didn't
really slip through the cracks, did he? Maybe she had seen another guy
playing real good for free...
Bob
NP: Led Zep, "The Battle of Evermore" (Is there a story behind how
they got Sandy Denny on this record?)
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:53:18 -0600
From: "Happy The Man"
Subject: Re: Help UK members (NJC)
My son is traveling to London for Spring Break to sing with his school's
choir. He is picking up a bunch of CD's for me that I cannot get over here.
Here is the question: What is HMV he is going to see a band called
Delirious and they are doing an in store there. I was thinking it was like
a Virgin Megastore but have no idea. Sorry if stupid question.
Peace, CRaig
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:03:34 -0600
From: evian
Subject: SNL (njc)
> Typically, you're not gonna get turned on to an artist
> because of their SNL performance, it's only interesting if
> you're familiar with the artist's work.
>
This is usually true, but SNL is actually how I finally got into Hole
(oh my, what a loaded choice of words!). I was flipping around one
night and caught Hole on SNL singing "Doll Parts" and I ran out the next
morning to track down the cd. Actually, SNL also got me into 10,000
Maniacs, now that I think about it, when I saw them on there doing "Like
the Weather". Both Hole and Maniacs are faves of mine now.
However, the show did encourage me to buy some duds, most notably
Spin Doctors. I saw them on there, thought they had a catchy song, and
now that damn cd sits there with the rest of my "what the hell was I
thinking" purchases, like the KLF, X's "Hey Zeus" (what a
disappointment), and..... I can't believe I am admitting this... "Songs
in the Key of Springfield" by the Simpsons... for some reason, I thought
it was cool at the time to have "Happy Birthday, Lisa" on cd...
Happy Wednesday, Listers!
Evian
np: "Bloodletting" -- Concrete blonde
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:10:02 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine
Mark Domyancich wrote:
> Hey everyone-
>
> There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room
> on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. One is a poster with Dylan (I
> think) the C&S photo and a recent color photo. It's worth tearing it
> out of your library's copy! (hehehe).
You go right to your room.
Librarian Jerry
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:11:03 -0500
From: Tad Davis
Subject: Morning Morgantown
Long time lurker, first time poster. Can anyone tell me or speculate as
to which Morgantown, Morning Morgantown refers? I had read on someone's
web page once that she had attended WVU (West Virginia University in
Morgantown, WV) for a semester, but the guy was from Morgantown so I
suspect it is a local urban legend. However, I also heard from a early
70s musician from the area that he had heard that another Morgantown
musician had originally written the song (the liner notes have the
lyrics 1967 Siquomb Publishing, the same as the rest of the songs that
Joni wrote). Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks - tad
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:46:02 -0700
From: Les Irvin
Subject: Re: Loudest Concert, Best Concerts (SJC)
At 11:10 AM 2/24/99 , Randy wrote:
>> Also, during "Number One"
>> Sting's female backup singer (name?) sang the "got to hold your head up
>> higher" part.
And David added:
> Sting's (then-)backup singers were Janice Pendarvis and Dollette
>McDonald. Don't know which sang with Joni.
It was Dolette.
Les
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:55:21 -0800
From: Russell Bowden
Subject: Concerts Best, Worst, SJC
Loudest: Jefferson Airplane/Starship...whatever Golden Gate Park '85
or '86. Outdoors and my ears rang for a couple of days. Wow!
Best Solo: Dan Fogelberg, (Innocent Age) Portland, ME, 1980.
Most Fun: Jackson Browne (Hold On) Portland, ME. 1980
Strangest: (Sorry) Joni Mitchell, WTRF Boston Common 1983. She left
the stage a couple times. It was broiling hot and most of the crowd
REALLY sucked! She finally came back alone and blew the faithful away.
I mean, TOTALLY! I loved it, but it was odd. Right Rickie Lee???
Most Exciting: Jethro Tull, (Stormwatch) 1979 Hollywood (FL)
Sportatorium. The last good Tull album (IMO). Great show, theatrics,
etc.
Best of All Time: CSN, 1982 (Daylight Again) Redrocks, CO The full
moon rose on the eastern prarie at 7:30PM, just as they came on with
Turn Your Back on Love. Unbelievably beautiful sounds from these guys.
(Best boy group!) Gorgeous early September evening. Goose
bumps......all over!
There were sugar cubes.
Love,
Russell
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:04:06 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine
In a message dated 2/24/99 3:51:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Harpua@revealed.net writes:
<< There's a picture of a girl with a few pictures of Joni in her room
on p41 in the March Issue of LIFE. >>
I think I saw that! Isn't that the issue on teenagers? Joni's photo was easily
recognizable.
Terry
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:22:35 +0000
From: Kate Tarasenko
Subject: NJC: Concert experiences
I have to second the emotion about this list -- I'm always happily
surprised to connect with so many gracious, funny and knowledgeable
people, both near and very far away. How cool! Thanks!
On to concerts:
One of the best/worst was at the Oakland Coliseum circa 1984 -- it was
one of those excessive band-fests that would have kept the whole joint
rockin' had it not been mid-August and no shade. Oingo Boingo yelled at
the toasted audience for not dancing at noon; the Police were great;
many others but I can't remember; and I got a swift elbow to the solar
plexus during David Bowie that, had it not been so crowded, would have
dropped me like a sack of flour. (This was how this asshole dealt with
the crowd situation!) As it was, I started out at mid-field, and just
by the surge of waving bodies, wound up at the stage where The Thin
White Duke vamped for photos by his adoring nation.
Other great ones -- front row at the Rainbow in Denver ('82 and '83) for
Miles Davis, also willingly posing for photos for me, back when it was
okay.
Two or three intimate club dates for Art Blakey (at some bar in Chicago)
that were incredible, but are these "concerts" if they're in such a
small and tasty venue?
The perfect one is a tie between Joni at the Garden/Bethel last August,
and WOMAD in Denver in '94, for which I had to take the following day
off work so as not to puncture the sweet haze too abrupty -- front row
for Peter Gabriel (and others). I was in hog heaven, and Robbert knows
what I mean!
Worst, but then I hardly count it as an actual concert: A very
funny/sarcastic friend got free tickets and dared me to go with him to
see Chuck Magione -- as soon as he hugged his trumpet for the audience
during the first tune, were were outta there!
Kate in CO
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:17:34 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC)
Craig wrote:
>Favorite amp concert: Tie Genesis "Lamb lies down tour" & Loggins &
Messina
>"Santa Barbara County bowl"
I saw Loggins & Messina in Arizona '72 on their first concert tour after
they released "Sittin' In". It was the most stupendous and exhilarating
concert I ever saw in college. They played like they'd been together for
years. My other top college concert was James Taylor in '71 - absolutely
flawless and riveting.
The loudest concert for me was, strangely, Jean Luc Ponty at the Golden Bear
sometime in the '70s. My boyfriend and I couldn't even enter the building -
it was piercing our eardrums outside on the street so we had to leave. I
was so disappointed because I had looked forward to seeing him for a long
time.
>Worst club: Sorry kakki but Bobby Caldwell in some dive in Portland. I
was
>completely disappointed and I think he was too because he only did about a
>75 minute set. He even stopped in the middle and quit playing one song.
>Best friend dragged me to this said I loved it, we played his music in the
>locker room before games.
Give him another try if you get the chance. I've never seen a bad
performance out of him. Even one time when he was down with the flu and
coughing and wheezing between songs, he still gave a top performance and
played for 2 hours.
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:31:05 +0100
From: "Peter Holmstedt"
Subject: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999
Joni Mitchell - Playing With Words And Music
( Image Entertainment - Video / DVD )
For some artists, the big stadium show is the best way
to show their mettle, but for others, a more close-knit
surrounding is just the ticket. Joni Mitchell is a shining
example of that second type, and the Warner Bros
soundstage in Burbank, California is the perfect stage
for her to take fans through four decades of folkrock in
this concert video. The concert is an intimate affair by
all counts. Mitchell, acoustic guitar in hand and backed
by a terrific ensemble, plays against a backdrop of her
own paintings during the show. Viewers are also taken
on a walk through a gallery display of some of her other
work at the beginning of the program. Fans will instantly
recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably
sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy
Cries Of Love".
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:36:04 EST
From: Strummed@aol.com
Subject: Re: Love or Money
Hold it. stop the presses. I can excuse the term jim morrison as an "army
brat" as a blanket statement. Truth be known he was the son of a career Navy
Captain, so hes was a Navy Brat. Otherwise the boys downtown don't like
that. Besides his former boyhood home is only about 8 blocks away from where I
live, 1717 Alameda Ave. Alameda ca. and I know and knew personal freinds of
his. Not that i'm a Morrison fan by any stretch of the imagination, just like
to keep and attempt to get the facts straight. No disrespect. No brag Just
fact. (Guns of Will Sonnet) starring the guy that played the real McCoy. My
aim is true, Alison. KINGS X to all and to all a good night . yours
musically, CHRI$.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:40:29 -0700
From: Les Irvin
Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999
At 03:31 PM 2/24/99 , Billboard wrote:
>Fans will instantly
>recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably
>sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy
>Cries Of Love".
I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni
to "Tiger Bones".
Les
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:46:06 +0000
From: Kate Tarasenko
Subject: JC: Dirty Linen review
William wrote:
"...the writer of that review,Mitch Ritter, requested a copy of that
review, which meant I actually had to write one! Luckily, thanks to the
loquaciousness of the jmdl, I put one together and sent it on..."
William -- Please do copy the list with your review!
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:47:44 -0600
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine
It sure is! I haven't read the entire article yet, but if I find out
that the editors found out one of The Teenagers 100 Secrets, I'll
have to bash some heads in.
:-)
Mark
StillPIMH-Peter Frampton
At 5:04 PM -0500 2/24/99, TerryM2442@aol.com wrote:
> I think I saw that! Isn't that the issue on teenagers? Joni's photo
> was easily
> recognizable.
>
> Terry
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:40:06 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: (NJC) The Lizard King Jim
CHRI$ wrote:
>Hold it. stop the presses. I can excuse the term jim morrison as an "army
>brat" as a blanket statement. Truth be known he was the son of a career
Navy
>Captain, so hes was a Navy Brat. Otherwise the boys downtown don't like
>that.
No, they don't! Thanks for the clarification!
> Besides his former boyhood home is only about 8 blocks away from where I
>live, 1717 Alameda Ave. Alameda ca. and I know and knew personal freinds of
>his.
This is very cool. I'd love to hear any Jim Morrison tidbits from you.
Crosby recently wrote a great song about Jim titled "Morrison" which is on
the CPR album.
"He was lost and I don't think he wanted it that way
like a gull blown inland on a stormy day
Lost in round one spitting out the peices of his teeth
lost in a Paris graveyard carrying his own wreath
And I have seen that movie and it wasn't like that
he was mad and lonely and blind as a bat
To the bridge and the falling tree
Too deaf to hear his own song, you see
How does anyone get there, we may never know
How they got that far, or what made them go
But he had flown from his homeland
You could see him there, A gull circling
In the high desert air
And somehow I have to learn from this
Cause I can hear him cry and feel the hiss
Of the wind in his feathers and the sand on his feet
As he dies in the desert on that Paris street"
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:01:12 +0000
From: Kate Tarasenko
Subject: NJC: Sergio Mendez
Did I say that this list rocks? Kakki, THANKS for all the info! Just
love the class, clues and laughs I get from your presence on the jmdl!
:^) Kate
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:22:03 -0600
From: "William C. Burnworth"
Subject: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen
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Subject: Joni review
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:43:37 -0600
From: "William C. Burnworth"
To: harper@teleport.com
Dear Penny,
Here's my review of Joni Mitchell's "Taming the Tiger," which might
help educate certain individuals incapable of recognizing genius when
they hear it.(my partner Tim slipped that in)
"Taming the Tiger," Joni Mitchell's 17th studio release, begins
with "Zulu Tango," a sonic image of a wild helicopter ride past a
rollercoaster, that shifts into a Cab Calloway influenced tune. Thanks
to her new guitar, the VG8, which holds her tunings electronically and
allows the mixing of individual strings to separate channels, she has
created a new orchestra of sounds that offer listeners a unique work of
maturity.
Joni has called this a "composed" album, and though she has
written, produced and arranged as usual, here for the first time she
provides most of the bass. Wayne shorter adds brilliant sax on five of
the cuts, also Mark Isham on trumpet for "Stay in Touch." Combined with
her keyboard work, designed to sweeten the mix, this may at first seem a
bit homogenized to ears more accustomed to acoustic work. The rewards
are great, however, for those who who understand that music can become
progressively more evocative with each listen.
Joni offers "My Best to You", as a gift to fans who asked her to
give them hope through her songs. "Stay in Touch" details the need for
clarity in the first swells of new relationship's emotion. "Man from
Mars," her ode to a cat lost for seventeen days, features an incredibly
deep mix, and then there is her exquisite instrumental version of the
title track, emerging a minute after the last vocal.
Of the ten songs, five are about love. two are angry, one
political. All this and a beautiful package as well, one that includes
twelve reproductions of her paintings accompanying the lyrics. Perhaps
her concluding verse from "Stay in Touch" offers sage advice to those
unable to give great music its deserved attention: We should just
surrender/let fate and duty shape us/Let light hearts remake us.
We can all look forward to the album of standards Joni Mitchell has
announced she'll tackle next.
William Burnworth
Covington, LA
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:31:25 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fave Concerts, Loud concerts (NJC)
In a message dated 2/24/99 5:29:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net
writes:
<<
I saw Loggins & Messina in Arizona '72 on their first concert tour after
they released "Sittin' In". It was the most stupendous and exhilarating
concert I ever saw in college. They played like they'd been together for
years. My other top college concert was James Taylor in '71 - absolutely
flawless and riveting. >>
I also saw L&M that tour, at Ravinia in north suburban Chicago on a beautiful
sumer evening , with Leo Kottke opening.
I had pretty good seats, but it was strange to see a lot of the older suburban
North Shore set leave after Kottke's performance. Some friends of mine had
bougth tickets to sit on the lawn, but asked for and received ticket stubs
from some folks who were leaving and came to sit near me.
NPIMH -- Vahevalla -- Loggins and Messina
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:11:46 -0500
From: Anne Madden
Subject: Mary Black (NJC)
Catharine Turley wrote -
>Larry Klein produced Mary's most recent album, "Shine." Its a real
>stylistic departure from most of her previous work (and has not been met
>with entirely positive responses from long-time MB fans). But Mary had
>good things to say from the stage about Larry. She called him "the
>wonderful Larry Klein," and then said "well, I'm sure you all know all
>about him and how fantastic he is."
Catharine, I love Mary Black and have several of her albums. Shine is the
only one I don't like. It is such a radical departure for her. I
personally don't think this kind of music (jazz) suits her style of
singing. I have tried to like it but just can't warm to it.
My favourite Mary Black songs are Only A Woman's Heart and Sonny which were
huge hits for her in Ireland.
Anne
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:16:47 -0500
From: Anne Madden
Subject: Grammy Award for Lucinda
Just heard that Lucinda has won Grammy for Best Contempory Folk album.
Thank you Lord.
Anne
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:18:58 EST
From: Strummed@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni Bit in LIFE magazine
saw that also and a fine photo of joni it is and i didn't have 1 until i
enlarged that 1 from life magazine 500 times and now its above the computer.
comeon flattop groovinup slowlyy joojoo eyeball holy roller. wheres' he get
this stuff from don pardo ? yours, CHRI$.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:12:30 EST
From: Strummed@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fritz (not Felix) the Cat (NJC)
GANGA, 1
VEGTABLE MATTER, 1
chri$.
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:24:56 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: Help UK members (NJC)
The HMV store is a big store in Oxford Street-similar to Virgin.
Happy The Man wrote:
> My son is traveling to London for Spring Break to sing with his school's
> choir. He is picking up a bunch of CD's for me that I cannot get over here.
> Here is the question: What is HMV he is going to see a band called
> Delirious and they are doing an in store there. I was thinking it was like
> a Virgin Megastore but have no idea. Sorry if stupid question.
>
> Peace, CRaig
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:26:24 -0600
From: Alan
Subject: Re:some help pleeze? (NJC)
Kerri,
I did a double-take the first time I heard that commercial; it sounds
exactly like Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, but it's most likely just
somebody trying to sound like Eddie Vedder. I just love that band. My
favorite album of theirs is the one that received the least respect -
"No Code." The critics tore it up because it was all over the map
stylistically, but I thought it was a work of genius, and that the
various styles only highlighted their diverse talents. Oh well, I've
always been the strange one.
Anyway, I would try hitting the web site of whatever company runs that
commercial. There may be a customer service email address, and you
might get an answer that way.
Alan
KerriLynn@aol.com wrote:
> i'm trying to find the tape (single) or cd of that song from the
> current "flat
> t.v. commercial".... it's a cover of the beatles' "getting better"...
> any info would be greatly appreciated... like who the heck is singin'
> it!! or
> anything else for that matter....
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:50 EST
From: Strummed@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Love or Money
Since we're on the subject, can you tell me who JONIS' singing about in
"EDITH AND THE KING PIN" ? THANX , chri$.
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:28:39 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999
Oooh Les! I didn't know you could be facetious!
Les Irvin wrote:
> At 03:31 PM 2/24/99 , Billboard wrote:
> >Fans will instantly
> >recall most of the 22 featured songs and will probably
> >sing along to "Big Yellow Taxi", "Tiger Bones" and "Crazy
> >Cries Of Love".
>
> I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni
> to "Tiger Bones".
> Les
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:23:37 EST
From: Strummed@aol.com
Subject: Re: KGSR SJC Austin's Finest
Austin you say ? then i know there playing there fair share of KINGS X and
the GALACTIC COWBOYS. I certainly hope so at least. yours musically, CHRI$.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:23:29 +0000
From: "Deb Messling"
Subject: Re: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen
Would someone mind sending the Dirty Linen rebuttal to the list
as plain inline text? My poor little 3.1 mail reader doesn't
understand the attachment.
Thanks.
Deb Messling
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:17:32 -0800
From: Phyliss Ward
Subject: Re: Billboard Magazine, Feb. 27, 1999
> I don't know about you, but I can't wait to start singing along with Joni
> to "Tiger Bones".
Yes! Joni KARAOKE is finally here!
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:38:04 -0500
From: patrick leader
Subject: FW: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen
i took care of this. really nice writing, william
- -----Original Message-----
From: Deb Messling [SMTP:messling@enter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 3:23 PM
To: joni@smoe.org
Subject: Re: joni rebuttal review-Dirty Linen
Would someone mind sending the Dirty Linen rebuttal to the list
as plain inline text? My poor little 3.1 mail reader doesn't
understand the attachment.
Thanks.
Deb Messling
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:05:24 -0800
From: Mark-n-Travis
Subject: Re: Best Rock and Roll Movie
Strummed@aol.com wrote:
>
> good choices. CHRI$
I forgot 'Stop Making Sense'. I saw one of the live performances from
that tour & it ranks as one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Others
would be Joni at the Gorge May of 98 (of course), Bette Midler at the
Paramount in Seattle in '84. I did see Jefferson Starship a couple of
times in the 70's but the first time my 'creativity' was so enhanced
that I don't remember much of it & the second was in Ames Iowa and I was
seated behind the stage. We could see pretty good though. I was
yelling 'All right, Grace!' as Ms. Slick exited the stage practically
right underneath where we were sitting and she turned around and waved.
This prompted yours truly to scream 'love you!' and I *know* she heard
me. Really. She did. I know it. I'm sure of it. She remembers it
too. I know she does.
Mark in Seattle
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:03:10 -0600
From: "Gerald Hillman"
Subject: Back to back Joni
I heard two Joni songs back to back on CBC Radio 1's "This Morning". They
played "Impossible Dreamer" from "Misses", then "River" from "Hits". I get
such a thrill out of hearing Joni's music on the radio (and not the standard
BYT and BSN). It's like confirmation from radio-land (as though they were an
authority to be reckoned with) that Joni's music is appreciated by people
other than us fanatics. It gave me thrill, t'is all.
I'm sure this has nothing to do with current threads, but I'm thankful for
the venue to express my Joni-isms.
"...weaving a course of grace and havoc...."
Gerald
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:45:15 -0500
From: "Brian S. Moss"
Subject: first 45/best concert/worst concert/Joni Memories [mjc]
I've been lurking here for about a week, and found your discourses very
interesting. Several threads have almost forced me to post...so here's a
few:
Some one commented about first 45's indicating ones age. Well, try this
one Tutti Fruiti by Little Richard.
Honestly can't recall first LP but a good guess would be either Peter,
Paul and Mary or Bill Cosby.
Never owned a 12", Did have 8 tracks[even owned an 8 track recorder at
one time]. Still have a lot of Reel to Reel recordings, mostly of
entertainers from the Coffeehouse days. One is a 3" R/R of Joni from 1965 or
66, but audio is so bad I'm probably the only one who could identify it as
her. I was fresh out of High School and Good audio was not affordable. I
have a Moderately large LP collection of an eclectic nature, But couldn't
tell you when or where most were acquired.
I will say that IN HARMONY is one of them and was loved by my wife and I as
well as my son.
I envy the sharpe and clear recollection that so many of you display;
wasn't particularly good at history either.
Most of my observed Musical experiences were of the coffeehouse
variety and later years Musicals. I guess I've never forgiven the Large
concert venues for displacing the Coffeehouses of my youth. Forced to
choose: Seeing the Preservation Hall Jazz Band in an Outdoor amphitheater
[several times] would have to be close to the best. Actually got to
Preservation Hall during Marti Gras before it was closed. Worst was at the
same outdoor venue,Meadowbrook in Rochester MI, for Bob Dylan. Opening for
Bob was an old do-wop group from Motown, they were excellent. Dylan came on
did a short
acoustic set[15 minutes] took a break [30 minutes] and did 20 minutes
amplified and while the crowd waited for him to return I looked over the
back of the Hill to see his bus leave. My wife dubbed it the 'bend over for
Bob'tour.
Now, I know that this is the Joni Mitchell Discussion List; so let me
tell you some of what I remember about Joni.
My very first contact with Joni was in the early 60's at a small
coffeehouse in Port Huron MI. It was a very small building, actually a part
of the Port Huron Power Squadron, and two students at the Port Huron Junior
college had decided to try a coffehouse in Port Huron. Port Huron had not
been in the forefront of anything since the turn of the century[the last
one]and this was a bold move. A junior in High School I was thrilled to have
the opportunity to see real folk singers in person and sit on the floor
amongst 'college students'. In my several trips to LA BODEGA, nothing
impressed me as much as the singer with the long blond hair and 'bell'tone
voice who played the guitar in a very strange way. Her name was Joni
Anderson and she was from Saskatoon [where ever that was] in Canada.
I had never heard a voice with absolutely 'no' overtones. Her notes were
sooo clean and clear that they could cut through steel and your heart at the
same time.
I had the privilege to hear her sing many times over the next decade, but
always in a coffeehouse setting. Since then I haven't heard her perform in
person. I do have many, not all, of her records and still enjoy listening to
them; but they will, couldn't ever, compare to my memories of the coffehouse
days.
Sorry, got carried away.....sign of aging
Brian Moss
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:34:53 EST
From: MDESTE1@aol.com
Subject: Night Ride Home- a confession
Admittedly Ive been called an eccentric. However, this
morning was my typical commute into the office of my
company and I tend to play a tape to get in the mood.
When I first joined this list I only had three Joni albums
and was familiar with four. two years later and I now have
14.[It took that long for Jonis CDs to appear in Green Apple
Records used CD bin.] Anyway I finally got around to
listening to Night Ride Home. What a treat. I wont bore the
listers with my personal opinion of the record as a whole.
BUT, I will admit that Passion Play has been a favorite of
mine for some time since I got the CD Misses(?) or is it Hits
(?). Anyway, this morning I hit the road and I played Night
Ride Home. To make a long
story short I could not stop playing the song throughout my
entire trip to the office. I kept playing it over and over. What
a magnificent song. the crickets chirping in the background
as a rhythm track. Just great. I have been known to tape an
entire side of a tape with only one song such as 'Cant Explain'
by the Who. I never get tired of a great song. Actually the
entire album is fantastic. Maybe one song is ordinary but the
rest are among her better efforts. I am also (let the flames
begin) growing in my appreciation of Larry Klein. If he is
influencing her production he is doing a great job here. I have
heard some criticism of his "meddling" But some of this
production is classic LA production values. Clean and deep
and sparkling. I have been buying her albums now on an
ongoing basis and I have to rank this one high on the list. Im
not sure when NRH was created on the timeline but I really
find the majority of the songs to be superlative. I might just play
that one song again all the way to work tomorrow. The last joni
song that got me like this was carey. As always I marvel at the
ability to compose a song this good after you have already
created 100 others before it. Joni if you ever visit this list here's
a big kiss for Night Ride Home.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:17:07 -0800
From: "Lance A. Michel"
Subject: Re: Re: Joni wrote her best work while taking cocaine...
- --I'm glad I'm as drugged as creatively as I can be.........;-)
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- -There are as many shades to reality
as there are windows unto the soul-
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:19:19 -0600
From: evian
Subject: Broadway Bridge
Hi peoples,
In case anyone is interested, here is a site with pics of the
Broadway Bridge... However, I warn you, they are kinda crappy pics, not
as nice looking as S'toon really is.
http://duke.usask.ca/~lowey/saskatoon/tour/broadway.html
Evian, who has to be up in 7 hours to go to S'toon....
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