From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #86 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, February 20 1999 Volume 04 : Number 086 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: intro, lucinda [Mark-n-Travis ] Re: Carly Simon (JC) ["Kakki" ] Re: album obsessions (njc) ["Kakki" ] NJC ...just other good music [Jeff & Vicki Harris ] Nina Nina (NJC) [Catherine Turley ] Re: Most enthusiastic album purchase (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] First Time/Worst Time (NJC) [Catherine Turley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:31:08 -0800 From: Mark-n-Travis Subject: Re: intro, lucinda Kate wrote: > I have always thought the song 'Passionate Kisses'(first heard sung by Mary > Chapin-Carpenter) was very heartfelt and yet simple and true and witty--I > love the sentiment expressed, that we deserve all the tiny pleasures of > life as well as the passionate kisses of our beloved-- and when I found out > that Lucinda Williams wrote it, I was impressed. She gets her point across. This song is on the recently reissued cd of Lucinda's first record titled 'Lucinda Williams'. Her version is great. There is also a really fine song on that record called 'Side of the Road'. It's about the need for solitude in a relationship: You sit there in the car By the side of the road Let me go and stand awhile I wanna know you're there but I wanna be alone If only for a minute or two I wanna see what it feels like to be without you To know the touch of my own skin Against the sun, against the wind There are also several live tracks recorded for various radio programs. Lucinda can really sing a blues song and some of these are the best cuts on the cd. I think both Lucinda & Lauryn Hill have that something to their singing that Joni says cannot be faked. I also had trouble with the sound of Lucinda's voice when I first listened to 'Car Wheels on a Gravel Road'. She almost sounds like she's singing flat on the first track. But once you get used to it she really has a unique sound that cuts straight to the heart of her material. In some ways Car Wheels makes me think of Carole King's Tapestry - they're very different but they both contain deceptively simple songs sung in a less-than-pretty voice, straight from the heart. And like 'Tapestry', 'Car Wheels' is a breakthrough album by a songwriter whose material has been covered for years by a variety of respected artists. Welcome to the list, Kate of the North! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:41:40 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Carly Simon (JC) Evian asked: >I am really curious about Joni's opinion of Carly's music. Does anyone know Joni's opinions of >Carly's recent work? Second hand which I related to colin awhile back. When Marsha and I met the sweet Robbie Cavolina, I was quite curious as to Joni's feelings about Carly. I loved Carly when her albums first came out but then was upset with her for my perception that she stole James T. away from Joni in a rather callous manner and made Joni very sad. Well, Robbie said that Joni absolutely loves Carly, her songs, and herself, and that they are good friends. He also said that they love to dish about James. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:46:15 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: album obsessions (njc) Patrick wrote: >as for waiting anxiously, i used to hang on the edge of my seat waiting for >todd rundgren albums. the two that most met the hopes were 'healing' and >'hermit of mink hollow', listened to them to death when they came out and >still am happy to pull them off the shelf. We should start a thread of albums that we have played to death I also had to have "Hermit of Mink Hollow" when it came out and swear I played it almost everyday for about a year. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:08:45 -0800 From: Jeff & Vicki Harris Subject: NJC ...just other good music Thanks to a thread (from quite a while ago), I picked up a copy of the Dusty Springfield CD...Dusty in Memphis...at my local library. wow I don't remember who did the recommending, so sorry... You know who you are...thanks! Vicki what I wish was n.p.-- Miss Otis Regrets...Libby Titus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:00:23 -0500 From: Anne Madden Subject: Lucinda on Saturday Night Live (NJC) Lucinda Williams is the musical guest tonight on Saturday Night Live. With Lucinda you don't get a fancy hairdo or the beautiful clothes. She is very down to earth. What you see is what you get. She doesn't put airs on for anyone which is probably why she doesn't fit into the mainstream country or pop genre like so many other popular artists. Colin wrote - >I gave her album a listen recently too. I don't get it either. Sounded like >another country singer to me. Michael Yarborough wrote - >It took me a long time to warm to this album. I had the exact >same reaction the first few times I listened to it in record stores. >The so what? problem, I call it. Sure the songs seem fine, but >not great. I was wrong. Michael, I agree wholeheartedly. I had the exact same experience. "A listen" does not do this CD justice. Lucinda's lyrics are sheer poetry. She fully deserves all the accolades from the critics and her peers. After I bought Car Wheels I worked backwards. I now own all her CD's and love every one of them. I agree with Gina's comments about Emmylou's Wrecking Ball album and the comparison between Lucinda & Neil Young; also that Gillian Welch is another great singer/songwriter. I bought her Revival album (on a recommendation by Deb Messling, I couldn't find her other CD, Yearling?). This is another CD it took a while to warm up to but now I love it! Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:16:35 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Nina Nina (NJC) "New York City is my favorite place for a honey moon . . . in a ho-tel room" Hello, my name is Catherine, and I'm a Nina Hagenholic. Would never have dreamed that I'd admit that in public. There, I'm out now. Going back to my corner to collect myself andtry to stop whimpering. CUT ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:19:35 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Most enthusiastic album purchase (NJC) In a message dated 2/19/99 7:21:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, RMuRocks@aol.com writes: << And I guess some of the toys would be "Bows and Aeros"? Bob, playing JMDL police for the night, who also has tickets for me & Nathan to see Aerosmith here in Greenville on 04/17. >> Bob, a word to the wise. Invest in some earplugs if you hope to keep your hearing until you're 50. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:30:06 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: First Time/Worst Time (NJC) In the spirit of Colin's thread of what was your first pop concert, I was reminded of a game my coworkers and I once played when I had a dreadful college student nightshift telephone job--everyone had to recount not only the first concert they went to, but the worst, and why. Those worst stories were usually quite hilarious. First for me was Billy Joel in Sept. 1978, and worst by far was The Cure at the Utah State Fairgrounds in 1984--came on an hour and a half late, were pissed off about who knows what, thrashed their instruments and spit at the audience--still have no idea what was up--but it was pretty awful. Maybe it was the livestock stalls nearby. Anyone else? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:39:07 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC ...just other good music In a message dated 2/20/99 12:10:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, treadmill@centuryinter.net writes: << Thanks to a thread (from quite a while ago), I picked up a copy of the Dusty Springfield CD...Dusty in Memphis...at my local library. wow >> It would not surprise me if you found many dusty records at your local library. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:30:09 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Cotton Avenue Harper Lou wrote: <> Come to think of it, Lou, it was Cotton Avenue through The Silkey Veils Of Ardor that addicted me to Joni. Before that she was just one of my favorite artists. I bet I've played DJRD more than any other album. It's flawless from the first note to the last word. Now that I think of it, I vote DJRD the album I'd crave most if stranded on a desert isle. But I would miss Paprika Plains the most.... E.T. NP: DJRD ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #86 ************************* There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?