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JMDL Digest Thursday, February 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 083
The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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NJC: First music [Kate Tarasenko ]
NJC: Legal weed [Kate Tarasenko ]
Re: first albums, cds, etc. (NJC) [philipf@tinet.ie]
Attn UK jimdles - Joni on the Beeb ["Phil Klein" ]
Re: NJC - Legal Weed [Jerry Notaro ]
Re[2]: first albums, cds, etc. [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
First time (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ]
(NJC) Re: Portishead ["Laurie Reifel" ]
RE: JMDL Digest V4 #80 [Louis Lynch ]
First stuff/Portishead (NJC) [Michael Yarbrough ]
Re: NJC - Legal Weed [LRFye@aol.com]
Daddy Cool (NJC) [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
NJC First time [catman ]
Re[2]: NJC - Legal Weed [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
Re: NJC-reefer madness [Ginamu@aol.com]
Two Joni mentions in LA Times [Steve Dulson ]
Re: first albums, cds, etc. [Randy Remote ]
Re: Unflattering TTT Review [Randy Remote ]
Re: Unflattering TTT Review ["Don Rowe" ]
RE: Unflattering TTT Review [Michael Yarbrough ]
Re[2]: Unflattering TTT Review [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
RE: Unflattering TTT Review ["Don Rowe" ]
Re: first albums, cds, etc.(NJC) [Scott and Jody ]
Re: First time (NJC) [Mark Domyancich ]
Re: 8 Track Memories (JC) [Jerry Notaro ]
NJC - Suzanne Somers [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
Re[2]: 8 Track Memories NJC [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com]
Re: first albums, cds, etc.(NJC) [Scott and Jody ]
The Lyrics book [Wally Breese ]
Re: first albums, cds, etc. [MHart16164@aol.com]
Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams [LRFye@aol.com]
Re: first albums, cds, etc. (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com]
Re: Portishead [Terri Forte ]
Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams [Scott and Jody ]
Jonatha Brooke (a little JC) [FMYFL@aol.com]
Re: Unflattering TTT Review ["Deb Messling" ]
Fwd: NJC-Lucinda Williams [Wolfebite@aol.com]
A Pot Thing (NJC) [Michael Paz ]
Re: First Purchases (NJC) ["Gerald Hillman" ]
TTT Columbia House #24 Bestseller ["Eric Taylor" ]
Re: A Pot Thing (NJC) ["Kakki" ]
Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams [RMuRocks@aol.com]
Re: A Pot Thing (NJC) [RMuRocks@aol.com]
Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams [TerryM2442@aol.com]
Re: Jonatha Brooke (a little JC) [TerryM2442@aol.com]
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:08:13 +0000
From: Kate Tarasenko
Subject: NJC: First music
Fun thread!
First 45: "Barnacle Bill the Sailor" (I was about six...)
First album: Jackson 5 (forget the title)
8-track: my older brother's domain, probably Frampton
First cassette: Roberta Flack
First CD (late to the digital game): Deep Forest
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:21:47 +0000
From: Kate Tarasenko
Subject: NJC: Legal weed
Eric Taylor wrote:
"...'Today I separated the Male Hemp from the Female Hemp.'
America's founders obviously smoked dope!"
My understanding is that hemp is different from the smoking-type of
marihoochie (whose decriminalization I favor).
Kate in CO
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:37:25 -0000
From: philipf@tinet.ie
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc. (NJC)
45 - The Herd - From the Underworld
LP - Rolling Stones - High Tide and Green Grass
8 track - Acquired in one job lot :
Blue
Gordon Lightfoot - If you could read my mind
Carly Simon - the one with "You're so vain"
Allman bros - Live at the Filmore
12" Tears for Fears - Everybody wants to rule the World
CD Van Morrison - Poetic champions compose
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:19:00 GMT
From: "Phil Klein"
Subject: Attn UK jimdles - Joni on the Beeb
I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this (I've deleted the last 5
unread digests...) but Radio 2 are broadcasting a programme about
Joni on Saturday evening (20th). The following is from the bbc
website:
7:00pm
Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now
Mary Black presents a programme about the
celebrated singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell,
charting the development of her innovative
musical vision from her early folk roots in
the 60s to the more jazz-influenced work of
the 90s.
Phil
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:35:47 +0000
From: "Deb Messling"
Subject: Re: Attn UK jimdles - Joni on the Beeb
Wow! Would this Mary Black be the wonderful Irish singer who did a
cover of Urge for Going?
>
> Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now
> Mary Black presents a programme about the
> celebrated singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell,
Deb Messling
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:38:35 EST
From: MP123A321@aol.com
Subject: NJC-reefer madness
Winifried posted recently:
<>
These are two of the most important arguments (IMHO) against legal marijuana.
The fact that smoking usually entails buying and puts you in a situation that
is not limited to just pot use. I believe it is a "gateway" drug to other
substance as it will expose you to a peer group that are more likely to use
other dangerous substances and deal with problems, stress, etc. by sedating
themselves.
It does arrest the development of healthy coping skills in young and older
people, as does alot of mind/mood altering substance.
I know I don't fancy the idea of my child smoking pot, legal or not, and would
like to know how many listers that are pro-legalize have children?
just a thought,
Maurice
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 07:27:33 EST
From: MGVal@aol.com
Subject: Re: first albums, etc.(NJC)
I can do this one:
45 - Older sisters bought them, I used them. (Supremes, Sam the Shah and the
Pharoahs, the Beatles, Herman's Hermits and more)
LP: that classic NY Mets 1969 World Series album, but that was a freebie. The
first LP I bought was "Jesus Christ Superstar" with my paper route money from
the slim, slim, slim music section in Two Guys in Harrison, New Jersey. I
still love it.
8-track: I had an 8-track player in my very first car, so I had Hejira and
Springsteen's Darkness on the Edge of Town.
Cassettes: never bought one, they were always copies
MG
np: morning coffee
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 07:59:34 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: first albums, cds, etc. (NJC)
Paul says:
<>
What synchronicity! When I was 12, monkeys gave me a "Some Girls" album!!
Sorry, couldn't resist...Bob
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:19:09 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: NJC - Legal Weed
Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote:
> Scott asks:
>
> << Have you ever heard of anyone overdosing on marijuana? >>
>
> Does binging at the Taco Bell when you're stoned count? :>D
Not as bad as going through the drive through at Taco Bell, paying for
your order, getting home and discovering you forgot to pick up the food
:-)
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:41:00 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: NJC - Legal Weed
Scott Price wrote:
> Also, studies have shown that moderate consumption of alcohol actually has
> health benefits. I've yet to see any studies showing marijuana usage to
> have a *physical* health benefit...as in "reduced risk of heart disease,"
> which is now an accepted effect of alcohol consumption.
Funny. This very issue came up on an interview this morning on The Today Show,
only about labeling of alcohol. The spokesman for the industry said no one in
the alcoholic beverages industry ever claimed health "benefits", only health
"effects." Interesting.
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:41:58 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: first albums, cds, etc.
Craig said:
<<45: Secret Agent Man>>
This is one of the "coolest" songs ever along with "Peter Gunn" &
"Harlem Nocturne"
Bob
NP: Elvin Bishop "Give Me Some of that Money"
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:53:09 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: First time (NJC)
How about combining the two threads? First song heard while high???
Mine: Magic Carpet Ride. All I remember is saying Ohhhhhh. So that's
what all the hub bub is about!!
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:25:10 -0500
From: "Laurie Reifel"
Subject: (NJC) Re: Portishead
>
>
> My most recent purchase has been the Portishead Live @ Roseland video.
> Anyone like Portishead?
> see ya, Greg.
Love them! I have only heard bits and pieces of the live one and it sounds
amazing. Almost better than the studio work (?).
Laurie
PS First LP: Monkees
First CD: Grapes of Wrath or Edie Brickell (I can't remember which, but
I know I had only those 2 CD's for a long time!)
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:36:48 -0800
From: Louis Lynch
Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V4 #80
Firsts:
First 45 - Beatles, Penny Lane
First LP - Iron Butterfly, In a Gadda da Vida
First 8 track - Leo Kottke, Ice Water
First CD - Tracy Chapman
First Cassette - Joni Mitchell, For the Roses
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:12:10 -0500
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: First stuff/Portishead (NJC)
A couple of these are pretty embarrassing...
First cassette: Either Michael Jackson, _Thriller_, or DJ Jazzy Jeff
and the Fresh Prince one with "Nightmare on My Street"
First LP (which our house got into *after* cassettes--that's how young
I am): Tiffany's first (and only?) album and George Michael, _Faith_
First cassingle: Don't remember. Never bought many.
First album CD: Gloria Estefan, _Cuts Both Ways_ and _The Little
Mermaid_ soundtrack. These were gifts. Janet Jackson's _Rhythm
Nation 1814_ and Madonna's _I'm Breathless_ were early purchases
First CD maxi-single: Madonna, "Justify My Love" Still one of the
best collection of remixes I own.
First 12" single: Several used Pet Shop Boys ones from the fabulous
record store down from Julie's at the Pittsburgh JMDLfest
First box set: Don't remember exactly but it's either _The Patsy Cline
Collection_ or _The Casablanca Records Story_
Laurie wrote re: Portishead:
<<>>
The live album is interesting mostly because of its astonishing
similarity to the studio stuff despite its clearly being "live." Worth
getting if you're a fan, but otherwise not very interesting. The
arrangements are almost exactly the same as on record. The
one exception is "Sour Times" (the "Nobody loves me, it's true"
hit), which is rocked out and pushes Beth's voice to ecstatic
shrieks of agony. My boyfriend and I affectionately call this one
the Voodoo Head version. It was incredible live, and it's incredible
on record.
- --Michael
NP: Neil Young, _Sleeps With Angels_
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Sometimes I'm goody goody
Right now I'm naughty naughty
- --Aaliyah, "Are You That Somebody?"
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:55:59 EST
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC - Legal Weed
There have been some really good opinions on this thread, one of which
('though I can't remember its author) suggested that personal RESPONSIBILITY
is the key here. I agree.
Years ago (and not so many) in Texas, it was legal to drink and drive. That
meant you could cruise around in your pickup truck with an open beer, swilling
away. That did NOT mean you could drive while drunk. If memory serves me
correctly, it was the feds who got into the act, threatening to refuse much-
needed money for highways if the law didn't change (just as they did when some
western states delayed changing their speed limits to 55 mph).
Anyway, the point is that the state of Texas previously recognized a
individual's responsibility to drink sensibly. It was up to each person to
know whether or not one beer could affect their judgment behind the wheel.
The same goes for marijuana or any other mind/body altering substance. If I
want to stay home and alter myself, it should be my business, as long as I
don't hurt anyone else. (However, "hurt" has many connotations. For
instance, neglecting your children because you spent all your money on dope is
hurting them.) If I want to drive around stoned, then I have to pay the
consequences if I'm driving too fast ... or too slowly ...
The bottom line seems to be that one person's rights end where another's
begin. Pretty simple concept.
Lori, who favors legalization and taxation
San Antonio
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:00:35 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Daddy Cool (NJC)
Greg says:
<<1st LP: "Daddy Who Daddy Cool" Daddy Cool (again, only Aussies will
probably know of this) >>
Not so, Greg! My sister (in America) loved this band and bought their
record "Daddy Cool". I think she saw them in concert as well, but I
could be wrong...I do remember her playing the record for me though -
they seemed like some kind of revivalist band.
"Daddy Cool's a-playing on that music machine - Daddy who? Daddy
Cool!"
Bob
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:40:49 +0000
From: catman
Subject: NJC First time
This reminded me that my first pop concert was The Skyhooks in Albury NSW,
about 73.
When was your first?
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:38:27 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: NJC - Legal Weed
Don states:
<>
I think the fatal flaw with the arguments I've read for legalization is
the misconception that if it were legal consumption would remain a
private matter, with folks only continuing to smoke in their homes. I
don't think this would be the case. Look at alcohol, it's consumed in
private, sure, but in public at bars, sporting events, restaurants, etc.
If pot were legal, it would eventually take on the same status with "pot
bars", etc. Think about porno - where it's outlawed, it's only consumed
in private. Where its not, you can go to public theaters. So if pot
*was* legal, public consumption *would* be an issue, driving stoned
would become the same issue drunk driving is, IMO.
<>
This is positively correct, maybe we should migrate to a "don't
ask/don't tell mentality, like in some parts of Europe, it seems to be
more of a common sense solution than legalization, which becomes an
irreversible decision...
<>
fwiw, I don't think the legalization of mj would affect the crime rate
in the least bit, depends on how you define it I suppose...in my mind
crime is more closely correlated with employment and educational issues
than with the legalization of pot. Again, this is something we can only
guess at...
<>
Well put, and worth about 200 more hours of debate! :~)
Bob
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:08:48 EST
From: Ginamu@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC-reefer madness
In a message dated 2/17/99 6:41:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, MP123A321@aol.com
writes:
> I know I don't fancy the idea of my child smoking pot, legal or not, and
> would
> like to know how many listers that are pro-legalize have children?
>
I don't have time to post something extensive but I DO have children. Not only
that, I am a social worker - I've worked in all sorts of settings, all of my
work has been done with children and their parents. Some of the outreach work
I've done (in people's homes) shows me first hand the realities of substance
abuse of all types and their effect on the lives of children. My drinkin' and
druggin' clients don't need yet another legalized substance (pot) within
affordable and easy access, to contribute to already tight financial
situations (cigarettes ALONE cut into a limited food budget) and already
stressed and negligent parenting. Pot smokers, from my experience, may not be
as aggressive as alcoholics but they are certainly as negligent when it comes
to meeting the needs for care and attention their children require. If my life
were such that I didn't see these realities on a daily basis, I may be in
favor of legalization. My child clients don't need to be inhaling pot smoke
along with the cigarette smoke they are forced to endure on a daily basis.
There is much more I could say, but I simply don't have the time.
Gina
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:41:36 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: Two Joni mentions in LA Times
The LA Times Orange County edition Tuesday had a couple of
Joni mentions. The first was in an obituary of Doug Weston,
the legendary owner of the Troubadour, who died Sunday.
Joni is mentioned as one of the artists who had key career-
making gigs at the Troub. Doug was also famous for his
booking policy - the first time he hired you, you signed a
contract saying that you'd come back 2 or 3 more times at
the same fee, which explains Joni playing the Troub in the
early '70s after she had "made it".
Under my Living Tradition hat, I am promoting a concert
Saturday by Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer, a singer/
songwriter duo out of Oregon. In a great article by
Mike Boehm, Dave says "All of us modern songwriters are
the children of Lennon and McCartney, Bob Dylan and Joni
Mitchell." That article is at:
http://www.calendarlive.com/HOME/CALENDARLIVE/OC/t000014699.html
and I imagine the Doug Weston one is nearby.
Best,
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
"The Living Tradition Concert Series"
(Website soon!)
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:05:54 -0800
From: Randy Remote
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc.
First LP-Beatles-Help!, in 1965
First 45-Association-Windy
First cassette-Fleetwood Mac-Tusk
First (only) cassette single-Stevie Nicks-(?) for unrel B-side
First CD-Cars-Heartbeat City
First prerec video-Fleetwood Mac-making of Tusk
First Joni LP-Blue, when it first came out
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:26:53 -0800
From: Randy Remote
Subject: Re: Unflattering TTT Review
Thanks Anne, for providing some laughs |-)
Anne Madden wrote:
> The following review appeared in the February/March of Dirty Linen
> Magazine, written by Mitch Ritter
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:47:56 PST
From: "Don Rowe"
Subject: Re: Unflattering TTT Review
>> The following review appeared in the February/March of Dirty Linen
>> Magazine, written by Mitch Ritter
So I must ask, just what is Dirty Linen Magazine, and what possessed
them to grind their axes on TTT?
Don Rowe
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:57:43 -0500
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: RE: Unflattering TTT Review
Don R. asked:
<<>>
Don't know...
<<>>
Perhaps that they didn't like the album.
- --Michael
NP: Who, _Who's Next_
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:13:06 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: Unflattering TTT Review
Don R. asked:
<<>>
<<>>
Michael answers...
<>
But, looking on the good side, they listened to it for 5 months before
they made up their mind! :>)
Bob
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:14:41 PST
From: "Don Rowe"
Subject: RE: Unflattering TTT Review
>Perhaps that they didn't like the album.
>
>--Michael
Let me see if I can clarify. Their review was written as if the editors
somehow expected Joni to ride in as their champion, singing their
political themesong (whatever that is), and felt cheated that TTT wasn't
more "correct." Hence my questions ... which remain.
Don Rowe
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:16:58 -0600
From: Scott and Jody
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc.(NJC)
> What was the first 45, LP, CD, cassette, etc.
> >that you bought?
>
45: Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand
LP: Herman's Hermits - I don't recall the title.
8-track: My brother had an 8-track player in his car and I remember
driving around with him listening to Grand Funk Railroad. Is that the
correct name of the band?
Cassette: I haven't the foggiest..
12": Elvis Costello and the Attractions - side A: Let Them All Talk -
side B: The Flirting Kind
CD: Song To a Seagull and Hejira
jody
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:32:21 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc.(NJC)
Scott and Jody wrote:
> 8-track: My brother had an 8-track player in his car and I remember
> driving around with him listening to Grand Funk Railroad. Is that the
> correct name of the band?
Yes. And can you believe that they actually covered Song for Judith??????
Jerry
No wonder VH1 has a show called 8-Track Memories
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:19:10 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: 8 Track Memories (JC)
Jerry wrote:
>No wonder VH1 has a show called 8-Track Memories
I didn't know about this show - how funny! When I bought my first car and
was starving all I could afford was an 8-track player, even though cassette
players had been out for a few years. I never locked the car because no one
wanted to steal an 8 track player or the tapes. But one day, I discovered
that my car had been rifled through and all the tapes were stolen EXCEPT
Hissing of Summer Lawns and DJRD. You'd think I'd be happy they didn't take
those, too, but I was actually a little angry that they'd rejected her!
Went through two copies of DJRD wearing it out from constant play.
Speaking of Grand Funk - a college roomate had one of their albums on
8-track and it was the only tape she owned. Everytime I got in her car it
was playing - "I'm getting closer to my hoooo-ooo-ome.."
Kakki
NP: Fredy Omar album produced by Mr. Paz.
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:33:11 -0600
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Re: First time (NJC)
Bob Marley's 'Legend.'
NPIMH-Dust and Ashes
At 8:53 AM -0400 2/17/99, Jerry Notaro wrote:
> How about combining the two threads? First song heard while high???
>
> Mine: Magic Carpet Ride. All I remember is saying Ohhhhhh. So that's
> what all the hub bub is about!!
>
> Jerry
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:36:31 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: 8 Track Memories (JC)
Kakki wrote:
> I didn't know about this show - how funny! When I bought my first car and
> was starving all I could afford was an 8-track player, even though cassette
> players had been out for a few years.
Hosted by that multi-talented Suzanne Somers. Come and knock on my door......
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:45:44 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: NJC - Suzanne Somers
<>
And bring your thighmaster!! :~)
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:51:03 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Re[2]: 8 Track Memories NJC
Kakki remembers:
<< When I bought my first car and was starving all I could afford was
an 8-track player>>
I never had an 8-track but a couple of my buddies did; I remember
there would always be at least one song per tape that was split on the
tape so you'd be jammin to a tune and then have to wait while it
rolled over to the next track...what a pain!
Bob, who could probably go buy 8-tracks to this day at the Jockey Lot
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:52:13 -0600
From: Scott and Jody
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc.(NJC)
Jerry,
You replied about Grand Funk Railroad:
> can you believe that they actually covered Song for Judith??????
>
> Jerry
>
> No wonder VH1 has a show called 8-Track Memories
>
Give me a day to recall their music. I remember I'm your Captain and a
couple others that are running through my mind. Speaking of Grand Funk
Railroad, a cousin of mine told me that she had seen them live. For
some reason, the audience was rather unruly and eventually one of the
band members addressed the crowd and said," Fine, if any of you think
you can play better than us, come on up, we dare you. Moments passed
and some guy finally walked on stage. He grabbed a guitar, took his hat
off and said, "Hi, My name is Eric Clapton", then proceeded to play an
entire set. She said the crowd went wild. She was thrilled as she was
more of a Clapton fan anyway. I don't know if this is true or not. She
'swears' by it. Whenever I hear "I swear this really happened", leads
me to think it's an Urban Legend. You'd also have to know my cousin as
well.
jody
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:07:09 -0500
From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com
Subject: Grand Funk memories NJC
Jody takes a trip down memory lane with Grand Funk:
<>
The most bizarre thing I recall about Grand Funk was that Frank Zappa
produced one of their albums! (Good singin', Good Playin')
I also remember when "We're an American Band" was a hit, my Dad
thought that "C'mon dudes, let's get it on!" was the worst song lyric
he had ever heard...
Bob
NP: Don Henley "Boys of Summer"
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:08:19 -0600
From: Scott and Jody
Subject: Re: 8 Track Memories(NJC)
Never mind Jerry, I don't need a day to recall Grand Funk's music. It
all came back to me. There wasn't much to remember. I will have to
catch that VH1 show though :-)
jody
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 99 14:21:29 -0700
From: Wally Breese
Subject: The Lyrics book
Hi everyone,
My thanks to Howard Wright for answering the question about the
corrections he collected for Joni's "Lyrics" book. I really screwed this
one up and I feel guilty about my failure. The publishers contacted me in
early May saying that they needed the corrections within one week to meet
their print deadline. (I'd negotiated with them earlier and they'd agreed
to take the edits.) However, I searched and couldn't find the folder I'd
been saving, and so I e-mailed Howard and asked him to please rush me
another copy of the corrections. The problem is that Howard was on
vacation and didn't return until well after the print deadline. Here's
the killer in this though- the very day after the deadline, I found my
original corrections folder sitting right on my much-cluttered desktop. I
immediately phoned my contact at the publishers, but they'd already gone
ahead with the process. This is not an excuse but perhaps an explanation-
this was the same week when I'd found out that the cancer had returned,
plus I was just about to leave to travel along as Website reporter with
Joni on her first tour with Bob and Van. So my head was jumbled, and I
lost track of the corrections file. I feel awful about this lost
opportunity. Sorry, folks.
Later,
Wally Breese
The Joni Mitchell Homepage
http://www.JoniMitchell.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:52:37 EST
From: MHart16164@aol.com
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc.
In a message dated 99-02-16 16:35:36 EST, you write:
<< What was the first 45, LP, CD, cassette, etc.
>that you bought? >>
45 = Hey Jude, the Beatles
First LP = Neil Young - Harvest
First Cassette = Cat Stevens - Foreigner Suite
First CD = Joni Mitchell - Court & Spark
Michele
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:04:27 EST
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams
Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about Lucinda's
new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
well ... I just don't get it. : (
Back in '88, Lucinda played at a nightclub here, where I was working at the
time. I've gotta say that I didn't "get it" then, either.
Lori
San Antonio
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:57:34 EST
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Re: first albums, cds, etc. (NJC)
My first:
45: Arizona - Mark Lindsay (I think)
LP: probably the first Partridge Family album, although it might've been an
Osmonds LP (how embarrassing)
Cassette: Bread, an early one with the song Mother Freedom on it
8-track: Talking Book - Stevie Wonder (which I just about wore out)
12" single: either Billy Ocean's Caribbean/European Queen (on see-through
green vinyl, no less!), or one of two by Depeche Mode (I still have these)
CD: Steady On - Shawn Colvin
Lori
San Antonio
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:38:54 -0700
From: Terri Forte
Subject: Re: Portishead
Check out "Dummy." It's great.
Terri
NP: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:52:24 -0600
From: Scott and Jody
Subject: Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams
Lori wrote:
> Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about Lucinda's
> new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
> well ... I just don't get it. : (
>
I like it ! I just enjoy listening to it. Maybe there's some' back to
roots' of country music that draws me to it. I don't know. I have
wondered if "Drunken Angel" was about Hank Williams. There was a feature
article in "No Depression" mag -The Altrnative Country(Whatever That
Is)Bimonthly about Lucinda Williams. It was a great article but that
still doesn't say why I like this CD as much as I do. I guess It's time
for the music experts on the list to come forth.
jody
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:23:16 EST
From: FMYFL@aol.com
Subject: Jonatha Brooke (a little JC)
Sorry if someone has brought this singer up before, but I missed a couple of
weeks of digests at the time this album was released. I was reading a review
on the Jonatha Brooke Live album, and never hearing of her before I learned
that she was with the rock-folk duo "Story". What caught my eye in this
article was that it mentioned:
"She's getting more attention than ever for her intelligent, jazz-inflected
tunes and a voice certain to appeal to Joni Mitchell fans."
I don't know if this is just another lame review where the reviewer mentions
Joni just so I'll go out and spend my hard earned money only to be
disappointed. If any of you kind people can give me some feedback, it would be
greatly appreciated.
Jimmy
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:13:26 +0000
From: "Deb Messling"
Subject: Re: Unflattering TTT Review
Don asked:
> So I must ask, just what is Dirty Linen Magazine, and what possessed
> them to grind their axes on TTT?
Dirty Linen is one of the most popular folk music magazines around.
I would speculate that there is a bit of resentment toward Joni in
the folk community for her seeming disrespect toward the genre.
Remember the nasty review from the folk DJ guy about the Chicago
benefit concert? Same deal, same resentment, I think.
What's especially annoying about the Dirty Linen piece is that they
are known for almost *never* giving a bad review, even when deserved.
At last they acknowledged the existence of TTT. They didn't review
Turbulent Indigo at all. That's when I let my subscription lapse.
Deb Messling
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:10:34 EST
From: Wolfebite@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: NJC-Lucinda Williams
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johnsonjs@earthlink.net writes:
<< Lori wrote:
> Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about
Lucinda's
> new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
> well ... I just don't get it. : (
>
then jody wrote: I like it ! I just enjoy listening to it. >>
which is exactly my response. if i listen to the music 'too carefully'- it
doesn't reveal much- but as a "drivin' down the road with my honey at 7:30 am
crawling rushhour traffic with car wheels blaring & we singing at the top of
lungs" music- it's unbeatable. It has that same good-drug effect as a great
pop song- like 'that The New Radical' songs or 'ghost in you' by the Furs...
they just groove. but i understand if you (Lori) aren't turned on by it- cuz
i, i must confess, feel the same way about the lauryn hill disc- which i
bought after all the praise and fanfair and haven't listened to it since the
first time.... i found it annoying.
so there... speaking of annoying- what's been playing in the car cassette deck
all this week is captain and tenille's greatest hits... (i swear- it's not my
choice)
doug
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Lori wrote:
> Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about
Lucinda's
> new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
> well ... I just don't get it. : (
>
I like it ! I just enjoy listening to it. Maybe there's some' back to
roots' of country music that draws me to it. I don't know. I have
wondered if "Drunken Angel" was about Hank Williams. There was a feature
article in "No Depression" mag -The Altrnative Country(Whatever That
Is)Bimonthly about Lucinda Williams. It was a great article but that
still doesn't say why I like this CD as much as I do. I guess It's time
for the music experts on the list to come forth.
jody
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:10:02 -0500
From: Michael Paz
Subject: A Pot Thing (NJC)
Kakki wrote:
"Studies done at major U.S. universities over 20 years ago found that the
resin inhaled from smoking pot accumulates and stays in one's lungs forever."
Hey Kakki-
I heard that when they did an autopsy on Waly Disney, they came up with a
considerable amount of resin from his lungs. This coulda been the rantings of
some drug crazed acquaintance of mine, but it had a ring of, hmmmm..... Anyone?
Michael
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:10:08 -0600
From: "Gerald Hillman"
Subject: Re: First Purchases (NJC)
45 - "Smoke On The Water" - Deep Purple
LP - "The Partridge Family Album"
Cass - "Superman" - Barbra Streisand
CD - "Cosmic Thing" - The B 52s
8-Track - _____________
Music Video - "Painting With Words" will be my 1st.
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:28:12 -0500
From: "Eric Taylor"
Subject: TTT Columbia House #24 Bestseller
I just received the latest from Columbia House and Taming The Tiger is #24
on the Top 30 Countdown!
E.T.
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:34:34 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: A Pot Thing (NJC)
Michael P. wrote:
> I heard that when they did an autopsy on Waly Disney, they came up with a
>considerable amount of resin from his lungs. This coulda been the rantings
of
>some drug crazed acquaintance of mine, but it had a ring of, hmmmm.....
Anyone?
I always assumed Disney and his band of animators had to be taking
psychedelics! It's conceivable that Walt, as an artist, inhaled years worth
of turpentine, paint thinner and other noxious substances involved in his
craft which contained resins.
Kakki, never inhaled but NP during first contact high was "White Bird" by
It's a Beautiful Day
NP: Get High by my darling Bill Champlin and his Sons
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:40:04 EST
From: RMuRocks@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams
In a message dated 2/17/99 5:08:40 PM Central Standard Time, LRFye@aol.com
writes:
<< Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about
Lucinda's
new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
well ... I just don't get it. >>
Well, I'm a "someone" and an "anyone", plus I've been tooting about "Car
Wheels" ever since it came out, so I'd better chime in:
1. The lyrics to me are very real and free of cliche..."little dirt, mixed
with tears", "Not a day goes by, that I don't think about you, you left your
mark on me, it's permanent, a tatoo", "All I ask, don't tell anybody the
secrets I told you". These are superb lyrics in terms of their emotion and
directness. There's no guessing or discussing what the songs are about - her
emotions are written down, her heart is right there on her sleeve, and it's
sung just as honestly in a world-weary voice that makes you know she's been
there.
2. The melodies are extremely accessible and easy to feel. It's also a lot of
fun to sing harmonies to, if you love to sing along with records. The second
time you hear it, you can jump right in with choruses like "Concrete & Barbed
Wire".
3. The instruments, and the sound of the record is just sincere & genuine. It
sounds like she put her band in the studio and did all these in one take. In
these times of overproduced, sampled, sound, it just sounds *real*. Great
slide guitar, which I'm a sucker for, and even some of that Beatle-esque
twangy guitar.
No tricks, just treats.
And "Sweet Old World" is just as good...
Bob
NP: Stevie Wonder "Don't you worry 'bout a thing"
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:41:43 EST
From: RMuRocks@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Pot Thing (NJC)
In a message dated 2/17/99 9:12:12 PM Central Standard Time,
michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes:
<< I heard that when they did an autopsy on Waly Disney, they came up with a
considerable amount of resin from his lungs. This coulda been the rantings of
some drug crazed acquaintance of mine, but it had a ring of, hmmmm.....
Anyone?
>>
Michael, I thought he was cryogenically frozen...how could they do an autopsy?
Bob
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:02:30 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC-Lucinda Williams
In a message dated 2/17/99 6:07:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, LRFye@aol.com
writes:
<< Been meaning to write to ask someone -- anyone! -- what it is about
Lucinda's
new album that is giving everyone such a thrill? I bought the CD, and ...
well ... I just don't get it. : ( >>
Lori,
The global rave reviews have confused me too. I have tried repeatedly to like
her CD, Car Wheels, but don't get it either.
Terry
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:13:56 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jonatha Brooke (a little JC)
In a message dated 2/17/99 8:40:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL@aol.com
writes:
<< If any of you kind people can give me some feedback, it would be
greatly appreciated. >>
Jimmy,
You are in for a real treat, IMHO. I have been enjoying her 10 Cent Wings
since I purchased it over 8 months ago. Go for it!
Terry
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