From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #74 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, February 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 074 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- John Kelly/JMDL Entrance [LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein)] Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance [LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein)] (NJC) Shana Morrison this weekend in SoCal ["Kakki" ] Re: TI Painting titles ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Joni comparisons ["Eric Taylor" ] Upshaw praises Joni! [Bounced Message ] Re:Joniart attached [Bounced Message ] NJC - CDNow $10.00 Discount [Les Irvin ] NJC - once more without the typos [Les Irvin ] Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance Someone posted asking about John's performances opening for Natalie Merchant. Although I didn't catch any of them, I'm on the Natalie list and reviews were posted, but they usually with only minimal information on John. Iguess that when he opened for Natalie in Las Vegas, he got LOTS of bickering and rude remarks from the crowd... even booing. I'm sure that was for his appearance and not the music though. I've heard that the performances in California went much better though and that he did get the crowd going with "Big Yellow Taxi". The problem is that Natalie kept introducing him as Joni Mitchell.. an often times much of the crowd didn't figure it out until several songs into his set. Can you imagine? Natalie was saying stuff like 'Well, it took a lot of work, but we've got Joni Mitchell here to warm you guys up!" I think that was a mistake because even the people who knew John Kelly was going to be opening were confused. Natalie shouldn't have sounded so convincing... May I just add that I think the comment made about a JMDL entrance exam was pretty rude. God forbid that listmembers take time out of the all-important Teletubbies discussion to answer a Joni-related question. Many of us have been fans for years and never known what SIQUOMB stands for... I'm just glad I didn't ask and be practically laughed off the list. I'd say that when the conversation drifts so far over to the NJC side, any Joni question is a good question. Not all of us have time to read the entire Joni biography but do enjoy her music and the conversation found here. Luke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:10:55 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance In a message dated 2/12/99 12:06:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, LucasBC@webtv.net writes: << May I just add that I think the comment made about a JMDL entrance exam was pretty rude. God forbid that listmembers take time out of the all-important Teletubbies discussion to answer a Joni-related question. Many of us have been fans for years and never known what SIQUOMB stands for... >> The point I was trying to make is that if you read the info on the web pages, you'll find it easily. The "exam" would merely be a clever way to use links to show new people that the answers to MOST of their questions can be found in the information already provided. It is not an attempt to embarrass new people or disqualify those who are only casual Joni fans. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:18:05 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance I'm not saying that idea was necessarily a bad one. It sounds fun. The way it was directed was kind of rude. You, Paul, said something to the effect of "So we don't have to answer a question like this at least once a month..." I'm sure nothing was intended by it, but this group of people can and sometimes does snub others, especially new listers. When someone can go on for pages about sexual orientation and religion, I'm sure a few lines dedicated to the definition of SIQUOMB wouldn't hurt. And the web pages take a lot of time to look through because they're so nicely done. Sometimes people just want a direct answer as soon as they can get it. Usually, a discussion list for the artist wouldn't be a bad place to ask a question pertaining to a rather odd term coined by that artist. This list doesn't seem to think that these questions are deep enough, but we say we want more Joni fans and by initiating something like a Joni-test, we're only alienating would-be fans. Luke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:11:34 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: (NJC) Shana Morrison this weekend in SoCal For those who love Shana, Van or just good music, here are the details for Shana's concerts this weekend: Saturday, Feb. 13th - McCabe's Guitar Shop, 3101 Pico Blvd., Santa Monica, CA Show starts at 8:00 p.m. - $12.50 (310) 828-4497 And even better...... Sunday, Feb. 14th - Muldoon's Restaurant, 202 Newport Center Drvive, Newport Beach, CA Show starts at 2:00 p.m. but they recommend getting there at 1:00 p.m. It's FREE, plus you can have a martini instead of the tea and cookies only offered at McCabe's ;-) Mr. Dulson and I plan to be there early Sunday if anyone else plans to venture over for it. Mr. D also recently passed on an article to me featuring Shana - she and her band Caledonia have recently released their debut CD on Belfast Violet Records. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:17:42 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: TI Painting titles Greg writes: <> I've wonderd that myself, Greg. S & L is my fav Joni work since I first heard it back in 1980. The video is even more amazing, paving the way for all the best music videos to follow. Coyote is priceless! S & L turned me on to Pat Metheny. I immediately went out and got American Garage. To this day Pat remains my second-favorite guitarist. Imaginary Day is his finest work since First Circle. I blast The Heat Of The Day and The Roots Of Coincidence all the time. What Pat contributed to In France They Kiss On Main Street, Amelia, and Furry Sings The Blues is not fully appreciated. And how Lyle Mays (and The Persuasions) transformed the boring title-track into a gospel masterpiece makes me wish she'd hook up with these guys again! What an awesome band.... E.T. NP: Jeff Buckley, Sketches For My Sweetheart The Drunk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:37:52 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Joni comparisons Peter De Baets from the band The Painted iD asked: <> Hejira is the general concensus and I couldn't agree more! Personally my #2 & #3 favs are Turbulent Indigo & Taming The Tiger but I'm certain that this will be heatedly disputed.... E.T. NP: Dog Eat Dog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:59:30 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Upshaw praises Joni! From: "Russell Bowden" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:59:28 PST On the NPR show; Fresh Air, today, Dawn Upshaw, the great soprano of the Met and other great Operas, told Terry Gross that her inspirations for singing were 1. Joni Mitchell, 2. Aretha Franklin. Having had the opportunity to hear Ms. Upshaw live on a couple occasions, I was delighted to hear her honor JM. Ms. Upshaw also sings a variety of styles and is wonderful at all them. Thanks all for the warm welcomes last week. I have been suffering from a male-related physical discomfort and haven't been able to sit at my computer. *Not my boyriend!!* Love to all and more later. Russell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:58:22 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re:Joniart attached Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:51:10 -0800 From: Randy Remote philipf@tinet.ie wrote: > California Steve wrote: > >Also, another clue to "Cold Blue Steel" being about JT is the fact > >that in the FTR songbook she has the lyrics facing a memorable > >painting of JT. > > Steve, > My copy of FTR shows the song facing a painting of a nurse > shooting up. I had to check.... at first I thought; huh? shooting up? yeah, right... but the more I look at it the more I'm NOT sure... what do the rest of you think? I've attached a scan of the felt tip drawing in question. RR (Note from the bouncer: sorry, attachments never make it through the majordomo system...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:05:23 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: NJC - CDNow $10.00 Discount Joniphiles - Now until February 23rd, every one who buys from CDNow through the link at http://www.jmdl.com will get $10.00 OFF their purchase. Here are the details of the offer: - -Visitors through the link must spend $19.99 or more at CDnow (applicable taxes, shipping and handling not included) in order to get $10.00 off. - -Limit one per customer. - -This offer is not combinable with any other promotions or discounts. just thought you'd like to know... Les - who urges all in the NYC area to go see Paticia Barber at the Jazz Standard through the 14th - awesome! on Paricia Barber the San Francisco Bay Guardian wrote: "...part Billie Holiday, part Joni Mitchell - as captivating as anything emerging in jazz in this decade." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:11:18 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: NJC - once more without the typos What I meant to say was: ...who urges all in the NYC area to go see Patricia Barber at the Jazz Standard through the 14th - awesome! on Patricia Barber the San Francisco Bay Guardian wrote: "...part Billie Holiday, part Joni Mitchell - as captivating as anything emerging in jazz in this decade." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:13:14 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance In a message dated 2/12/99 12:19:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, LucasBC@webtv.net writes: << Sometimes people just want a direct answer as soon as they can get it. Usually, a discussion list for the artist wouldn't be a bad place to ask a question pertaining to a rather odd term coined by that artist. >> I think the best response from the list to that question is to encourage you to check out the website. It really isn't that much to read the bio, but I guess an FAQ "quiz" is still the best way. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:20:17 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: John Kelly/JMDL Entrance In a message dated 2/12/99 12:19:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, LucasBC@webtv.net writes: << The way it was directed was kind of rude. You, Paul, said something to the effect of "So we don't have to answer a question like this at least once a month..." >> Luke, You don't know me yet. I've been busier on my baseball list and haven't posted much on the JMDL lately, but I've been reading most of the posts. I'm not rude; I'm direct. When Prof. Henry Higgins is accused of being cold to Liza Doolittle, he replies, "The question isn't whether I treat you badly, but whether you've seen me treat anyone else better." LOL Paul I ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #74 ************************* There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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