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Either we are alone in the universe
...........Or we're not............
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:44:22 EST
From: RickieLee1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Am I a bad girl? (joni content)
angela, angela, angela...
FIRST of all, think for a moment how NO ONE ever has a schedule but a
doctor...think how they schedule you for 1 o'clock and keep you waiting until
10 of three and never feel they have to explain or apologize....
SECOND think of how much they CHARGE you to rob you of your dignity, peek at
your most private parts and excuse themselves to allegedly wash their hands
when in fact they are sneaking into the nurses lounge to snicker while they
tell them all about your secret freckles and rogue hairs sprouting in places
where no hairs should be...(ok, ok, i am talking about MY body, not yours, but
i trust you get my point)
THIRD just remember that tone of voice they used in responding to your very
legitimate question about the decisions THEY are making about YOUR
healthcare...the one that says "oh PLEASE, you could not possibly understand
the complex nature of MY thought processes, but let me TRY and phrase it in a
way you MIGHT understand, if i speak slowly and you listen to EVERY WORD..."
screw them!!! next time, don't stop at the article! take the whole damned
magazine!!!
peace, ric (who is a very bad boy but that is just part of his charm...)
p.s. and if there are any doctors on the list, i concede that you are the one
EXCEPTION to a RULE!!!!!
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:44:24 EST
From: RickieLee1@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Joni thread
In a message dated 2/1/99 7:31:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, artwear@ncweb.com
writes:
<< all right...
fro-M w-H-ere we c-A-me, and go R-ound and round and round in T-he circle
game 16 springs and 16 summers gone now.
.....there'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty, be-4 the last
revolving year is through!
>>
oh you big show off you!!! (too bad you can't make a living off this! You'd
be RICH!)
love, ric!!
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:58:22 -0500
From: The Humphreys
Subject: Re: Alternative Top 100, NJC
Seeing Todd Rundgren's name on this list sure brought back some fond
memories. Does anyone know what he's up to these days? He certainly
was in a category of his own IMHO! Suzanne
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:09:33 -0500
From: The Humphreys
Subject: NJC, JC (just cats)
I too must add to this list...My kitties are not any particular breed
that I can fathom (as only an ex-dog junkie can attest), but are
definitely of their own "heart and mind". Albert is the boss...a large
yellow Tom, with his sidekick Monster Kitty, named by my husband as she
sleeps in the closet during the day and only rears her head at night.
She is a beautiful, rabbit-furred pale calico. Then there is our
unnamed...a black and white kitten rescued from inside of the wall where
I work. Apparently, her mother had her litter in the ceiling of the
building and she fell down between the walls when only about 10 days
old. Well, we fed her round the clock and needless to say, she is the
queen bee now. Unfortunately we never could agree upon a name, and now
2 years later it seems too late to fit one to her. Any suggestions?
Suzanne
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:30:17 -0800
From: "Davina Greenstein"
Subject: Re: Alternative Top 100, NJC
I heard through my husband that Todd has started his own company, some type
of multimedia compressed music over the web thing. Very similar to Thomas
Dolby's Headspace concept. And actually last I heard, he was in litigation
with the "supposed" developer of the technology over a patent dispute. I'm
sure someone on the list can provide further detail as this came to me
second hand. It was covered on ZDTV not too long ago.
Best Regards,
Davina
- -----Original Message-----
From: The Humphreys
To: joni@smoe.org
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative Top 100, NJC
>Seeing Todd Rundgren's name on this list sure brought back some fond
>memories. Does anyone know what he's up to these days? He certainly
>was in a category of his own IMHO! Suzanne
>
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:19:05 -0500
From: "M & C Urbanski"
Subject: Re: The Joni game
>
> No offense, coyotes, but this thread is really
> lame. It makes no sense, i hate it.
>
> bill
OH sure...hurt my feelings go ahead! And I sat before his sanity, I was
holding back from crying!
Marilyn
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:38:17 -0500
From: "M & C Urbanski"
Subject: Re: The Joni game
> > >> It was a dark and a stormy night. I pulled up behind a Cadillac; we
> > were
> > >
> > >> waiting for the light. Sharon, I left my man at a North Dakota
> > junction
> > >> and I came up to the Big Apple here to face the dream's malfunction.
> > See
> > >
> > >> that patch of city lights? Somewhere in there is Cotton avenue,
> > that's
> > >> where I'm gonna take myself tonight with the spit shine on my
dancing
> > >> shoes...
> > >> Tonight I'm going dancing with the drag queens and the punks. Do you
> > want
> > >to
> > >> dance, I love to dance?
> > >>
> > >> Try Another, it's dog eat dog.
> > >>
> > >> Do you want to dance?
> > >>
> > >> He put a quarter in the Wurlitzer, and he pushed three buttons, and
> > the
> > >thing
> > >> began to whirr, he drags me out on the dance floor and we're dancing
> > >close and
> > >> slow. I'm drinking sweet champagne, I didn't know I drank such a lot
> > til
> > >I
> > >> pissed a tequila anaconda the full length of the parking lot.
> > >
> > >I'm sitting in some cafe a defector from the petty wars until love
> > >sucks me back that way. Come on down to the Mermaid cafe with me and
> > >I'll buy you a bottle of wine.
> > >
> > >I'm leaving on the 1:15, you're darn right! Maybe I'll go to
> > >Amsterdam or maybe I'll go to Rome. I was a free man in Paris, I
>felt
> > unfettered and alive...
> >
> > When they sent me to the sisters for the way men looked at me in the
> > back of Ray's Dad's Cadillac. We're trying to get things white as
snow,
> > like some surrealist invented washing on the line. It's the judgement
> > of the moon and stars, a course of grace and havoc, no regrets Coyote
>
> it's like night, night and day, threatened by all things, God of
> cruelty.[then] out of the fire and still smouldering [I] said a woman
must
> have everything. So off I go with Michael from Mountains and we settled
down
> in a shack on Sisowtobell Lane where we sit and watch the moon at the
window
> or hang out underneath the streetlight. we have a solid love. I'm a lucky
> girl and i have the only joy in town in these two grey rooms where we
share
> our own passion play and nothing can be done to stop our love.
I left him then for the refuge of the roads. I get the urge for going,
still a lot of lands to see. I am on a lonely road and I am traveling.
It's a rough road to travel and the streets are full of strangers. I tried
to run away myself and wrestle with my ego. I'm selfish and I'm sad now
I've gone and lost the best baby I ever had. I pulled into the Cactus tree
motel to shower off the dust, and I slept on the strange pillows of my
wanderlust....
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:54:34 -0500
From: Anne Madden
Subject: Sex, Politics & Religion
I for one am really sick of this list being used as a soapbox for gay
issues, politics and religion.
I am not anti-gay by any means, I could care less what someone's sexual
persuasion is but I thought this was a Joni Mitchell discussion list. I
realize it's impossible to talk about Joni all the time. Other lists ban
these topics because they are considered "flaming" posts and only serve to
get people riled up.
I'm sure there are websites and other chatrooms for this type of
discussion. It shouldn't matter whether NJC is indicated in header or not,
these topics in my view have no place on this list.
Just my opinion.
Anne
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:55:16 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: The Joni game
M & C Urbanski wrote:
> >
> > No offense, coyotes, but this thread is really
> > lame. It makes no sense, i hate it.
> >
> > bill
What a nice positive post from Bill. Haven't heard from you in ages. Posts
like this are always needed to remind some of us how lacking in taste we
are.
> OH sure...hurt my feelings go ahead! And I sat before his sanity, I was
> holding back from crying!
>
> Marilyn
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:05:27 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: Sex, Politics & Religion
And I am heartily sick of reading stuff like this. This list used to be great
fun. felt welcome. now it is just one bitch session from those that cannot
figure out how to use their delete button.
Good bye. I'm buggering off to a friendlier open place where people sharing of
themselves is welcome and not shit over. Many of the most interesting and
friendly people have stopped posting anyhow.
Anne Madden wrote:
> I for one am really sick of this list being used as a soapbox for gay
> issues, politics and religion.
>
> I am not anti-gay by any means, I could care less what someone's sexual
> persuasion is but I thought this was a Joni Mitchell discussion list. I
> realize it's impossible to talk about Joni all the time. Other lists ban
> these topics because they are considered "flaming" posts and only serve to
> get people riled up.
>
> I'm sure there are websites and other chatrooms for this type of
> discussion. It shouldn't matter whether NJC is indicated in header or not,
> these topics in my view have no place on this list.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Anne
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:49:27 EST
From: DKasc13293@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sex, Politics & Religion
During times like these, the wise are influencial.
They can bear the imperfections. They can keep the harmony.
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:59:47 -0600
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Re: Sex, Politics & Religion
A huge 'me too' on this one!
Mark
At 7:54 PM -0500 2/1/99, Anne Madden wrote:
> I for one am really sick of this list being used as a soapbox for gay
> issues, politics and religion.
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:05:15 -0500 (EST)
From: David Wright
Subject: Re: NJC (NJC)
P. Henry writes:
>
> (I suppose I should be grateful that no one's going off about
> Nietzsche!)
The philosopher, or the cat? In either case it's JC, though. And
we *have* gone off about Nietzsche the philosopher, in fact. ;) Probably
about Nietzsche the cat, too.
> but, Joni's music touches on all sorts of things in life...
> not just sexual, political, religious...
What sorts of things *are* there in life besides the sexual,
political, and religious? (and what do you mean, "just"??!?) -- especially
taking a broad definition of those topics....you know they say that what
is personal is political, for instance.
Anyway, if you'd have us not discuss the sexual, political, and
religious things that Joni's music touches on, P. Henry, please inform us
what aspects of her work you *do* deem open to our scrutiny.
(Interestingly, you have posted elsewhere that we shouldn't try to
understand Joni's life because she is an Artist and that would be tearing
her down. That would throw a big chunk of JC right out the window...and
you then complain about a lack of JC?? Just a thought...)
> I wonder just how many 'veterans' there are like you... [snip]
> ...keeping their thoughts to themselves because they know by experience
> it will do no good to speak out.
Sounds suspiciously like one of those self-fulfulling prophecies
to me...
The crux of the matter, I think, is that any attempt to regulate
the content of the list presents possibly insurmountable practical
problems, entirely apart from the moral question. The above comments
point up what others have already said, that everyone has their own
opinion of what is appropriate content and what isn't, and that there's
too much of a grey area (partly due to the range and depth of Joni's
lyrics) between NJC and JC. For instance, I don't think finding our e-mail
tags in Joni lyrics is exactly JC, fun though it might be (and my hat is
off to Marilyn!). Complaining about lack of JC, and appealing to people to
post more JC and less NJC, rather than regulating as such, is equally
pointless unless everyone agrees on definitions of JC/NJC, which is not,
IMHO, going to happen, ever.
BTW, I'd like to commend Gina's post on this subject...a very thoughtful
description of what it's like to be a member of a discussion list.
Take care
- --David
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