From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #34 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 19 1999 Volume 04 : Number 034 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Re[2]: NJC: Ritual Purification (REM) [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Hold her down (NJC) [catman ] Re: Re[2]: NJC: Ritual Purification (REM) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Oops (NJC) [catman ] Re: JMDL Digest V4 #33 [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Happy Birthday Dr. King [simon@icu.com] (NJC) Mail Server Blues [Susan Chaloner ] I's a muggin' RJC (related Joni content) [Mark-n-Travis ] Re: origin of rap (NJC but lotsa profanity) [Mark Klempner ] Re: Joni Mitchell Tribute [DKasc13293@aol.com] Joni in Australia ["Cupit, Greg" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:42:00 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: NJC: Ritual Purification (REM) In a message dated 1/18/99 7:59:02 AM, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote: >Fred, these are all great bands, and of course the topic and definition are >totally subjective, so there's *NO* right or wrong Yes, of course ... that goes without saying. You present a strong case for REM's longevity, except I just don't agree that they were ever that talented musically to begin with. Jimi Hendrix, whose career was tragically cut short, is still, 30 years later, way ahead of his time and one of the most important artists of all time. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:52:56 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Hold her down (NJC) You are in good company Marsha! I never bought one either and can't think of what they did either-except for Yesterday which i love. michael paz wrote: > Marshaw wrote (with bloody hand); > "Marsha, who never bought a Beatle album in my life > (kill me now, Terry...)" > > Hey Terry- > You hold her down and I will beat her senseless. (or is that redundant? > Marsha, so who were you into back then Herman? > > Michael > > P.S. Let's just tar and feather Brian - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:49:31 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: NJC: Ritual Purification (REM) In a message dated 1/18/99 6:45:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, FredNow@aol.com writes: << You present a strong case for REM's longevity, except I just don't agree that they were ever that talented musically to begin with. Jimi Hendrix, whose career was tragically cut short, is still, 30 years later, way ahead of his time and one of the most important artists of all time. -Fred >> Quite similar to the threads we have on the baseball discussion list. Who would you rather have, Don Sutton, slightly better than average for a long time, or Sandy Koufax, one of the best ever but only for six years? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:55:28 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Oops (NJC) Huh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:26:04 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V4 #33 re: Michael Paz' info re Joe Mooney Thanks for the info. Glad to stand corrected. Ahhhhh, head lining at a recording studio - every performer's dream! I relied solely on memory of a brief introduction made before his performance. I do recall his saying that he was staying on Pine Island (near Ft. Myers) and that he is to play here locally - I'll keep my eye peeled. Haven't heard anything he's recorded but a friend picked up his CD at the show. The audience was sure worked up - great energy. You're so lucky to have all that within earshot!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:52:06 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Happy Birthday Dr. King HAPPY BIRTHDAY (Lyrics & music by Stevie Wonder) You know it doesn't make much sense There ought to be a law against Anyone who takes offense At a day in your celebration 'Cause we all know in our minds That there ought to be a time That we can set aside To show just how much we love you And I'm sure you would agree It couldn't fit more perfectly Than to have a world party on the day you came to be Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday I just never understood How a man who died for good Could not have a day that would Be set aside for his recognition Because it should never be Just because some cannot see The dream as clear as he that they should make it become an illusion And we all know everything That he stood for time will bring For in peace our hearts will sing Thanks to MARTIN LUTHER KING Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Why has there never been a holiday Where peace is celebrated all throughout the world The time is overdue For people like me and you Who know the way to truth Is love and unity to all God's children It should never be a great event And the whole day should be spent In full remembrance Of those who lived and died for the oneness of all people So let us all begin We know that love can win Let it out don't hold it in Sing it loud as you can Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday Happy birthday Happy birthday Ooh yeah Happy birthday... We know the key to unify all people Is in the dream that you had so long ago That lives in all of the hearts of people That believe in unity We'll make the dream become a reality I know we will Because our hearts tell us so from the album "Hotter Than July." __________________________________ how well i remember what others may well have forgotten. in the late 70's the effort to establish a National Holiday in honor of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King was stalled and passage seemed hopeless. (in large messure) due to the tireless efforts of Stevie Wonder (& others), Right eventually won out over ignorance. Happy Birthday Dr. King - ------- simon - ------- Nkosi Sikelei Africa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:05:33 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: (NJC) Mail Server Blues Good Morning America! How are ya? I've had the mail server blues...my Pop3 server has been down for days but they finally got it back up and I'm ready to rock ;~D Anyone who has been trying and failing to reach me will now comprehend why Please resend all miracles ;~) So great to be bare-back! ;~) Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...After all these tears, I'm not wasting any time Here's some poetry that rhymes and feels so right..."-Linda Worster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:55:26 -0800 From: Mark-n-Travis Subject: I's a muggin' RJC (related Joni content) I was listening to a program on our local NPR station Saturday night called 'The Swing Years and Beyond' and they played the entire song 'I's a Muggin'. I meant to write down the name of the artist performing it but got distracted and cant' remember the name. Was anyone else aware that that little snippet from 'Mingus' that Joni sings with the man was part of an actual song? Mark in Seattle hoping all have had a good Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:52:12 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry I wrote: > Honey McBabe-NP-"I shall be released" from the milking dayz And Bern responded: > The Republic decrees that you shall never be > released from your milking dayz. Oh my gawd! It's a miracle ;~D Mwah! :~* Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...Have a little faith in me..."-John Hiatt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:22:23 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Klempner Subject: Re: origin of rap (NJC but lotsa profanity) Mark K. wrote: I was amazed when I read some transcripts from the pre-60's African-American verbal pastime called "playing the dozens." It's so much like rap, even the profanity! If you want, I'll post some excerpts from "The Signifying Monkey" or "The Titanic." Mark K. now writes: By request, here's the SM. Signifying in this context means a trickster, one who cuts up, messes around, lies, jests, but is clever too. If anyone wants to know, I can get more info. about where this is from, what year it was recorded, who "rapped" it. It's probably on some old Library of Congress recording. This isn't "playing the dozens," which is when two or more persons compete to see who can out-insult the other(s), but it's a similar kind of "rap" made up to amuse others and outdo other people's "raps." Mark K. Signifying Monkey Say deep down in the jungle in the coconut grove lay the Signifying Monkey in his one-button roll. Now the hat he wore was on the Esquire fold, his shoes was on a triple-A last. You could tell that he was a pimping motherfucker by the way his hair was gassed. Now the Signifying Monkey told the big bad Lion one day, said, "Jack, there's a bad motherfucker lyin' down your way." He said, "And the way he talked about you, I know it ain't right, when y'all meet, gonna be a hell of a fight." He said, "You know the other day down on the ditch he called your mother a no-good bitch." The Lion jumped back with a mighty roar, his tail stuck out like a forty-four, he breezed down through the jungle in a hell of a breeze, knockin' giraffes to their knees. He run up on Brother Elephant down under the trees, just about asleep, he said, "You big bad motherfucker, it's goin' be you or me." The Elephant looked at him out a the corner of his eyes, said, "Why don't you go on and pick on somebody your size?" But the Lion jumped back and made a pass and the Elephant knocked him dead on his ass They fought all night and they fought all day, and I don't see how in the hell that Lion got away. Early next mornin', more dead than alive, he crawled back to his tree and there lay Brother Monkey with his signifyin'. He said, "Now look at you, talking about you the kind of the jungle, aint' that a bitch? You face is fucked up like the seven-year itch." He said, "I," say, "I didn't get beat." The Monkey said, "You a lyin motherfucker," said, "you [I] had a ringside seat." He said, "Shut up, motherfucker, and don't you roar, if you do I'll jump down and kick your ass some more." The Monkey got frantic and went jumpin' up and down, both feet missed the limb and his ass hit the ground. Like a boom a lightnin' from a streak a heat, the Lion was on him with all four feet. The Monkey said, "I know you think you raisin' hell, but everybody seen me when I slipped and fell. But if you let me get my nuts up out of this sand I'll fight you just like a natural man." He said, "And if you even give me a bid," say, "I'll whip your ass worse than that Elephant did." The Lion jumped back and said, "Well, be ready, motherfucker, when I count to three," but the Monkey tore his ass back up that same damned tree. He said, "Well, Brother Lion, the day have come at last, that I have found a limb to fit your ass." He said, "You might as well stop, there ain't no use a tryin', because no motherfucker is gonna stop me from signifyin'." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:31:31 -0400 From: Christopher Kornmann Subject: Joni Mitchell Tribute Hello all... For all you New Yorkers, The Living Room in the East Village is sponsoring a Joni Mitchell Tribute Night, with local musicians paying tribute to Joni! It will feature Joy Askew, Marina Belica (from October Project), Jennifer Jackson, Barabra Brousel, Richard Julian and others. Thursday, Jan. 21 8:00pm The Living Room 84 Stanton Street (corner of Allen & Stanton) Free! Also, Joy Askew will be playing tonight (the 19th) at the living room as well. The show starts at 8:30. Admission is free! Thanks! - -- Christopher Kornmann Graphic Designer spit&image 828 Waring Avenue Bronx, NY 10467 718.798.2862 spitandimage@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:47:23 EST From: DKasc13293@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Tribute Your truly will be the MC for the evening. Please introduce yourselves as fellow listers. Thank you. Duane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:30:41 +1100 From: "Cupit, Greg" Subject: Joni in Australia Hi all, This is my first post to the list. I'm Greg from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. Hi to Vanessa from Mooroolbark. I know what you mean about the scarcity of international tours. However, I did get to make it a priority to fly over to Melbourne for Joni's concert at the St. Kilda Palais in the early 80's when she toured for the Wild Things Run Fast album. My greatest memory of the concert was jumping down into the orchestra pit and taking lots of great slides of Joni up close. She could see I was after a particular shot and gave me a beautiful deliberate pose - just for me!! Sigh, sigh!! The bit that really melted my heart were some longing glances my way during the Unchained Melody bit of Chinese Cafe. I went all weak at the knees. I was the only one up real close near the piano and within easy sight. It was wonderful. Oh, and the photos came out brilliantly!! Hi also to Angela Takats from Sydney. Any other Aussies on this list? Also, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Shadows & Light video? Thanks Greg Cupit, Hobart, Tasmania (the island down under the land down under) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #34 ************************* There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. 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