From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #11 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, January 7 1999 Volume 04 : Number 011 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Any suggestions? ["CraziAP" ] Re: Welcome! ["CraziAP" ] Re: Grammy Joni in 2000? [Bolvangar@aol.com] Sorry guys! NJC msg to P Henry ["bern.gallagher" ] P.S. Trivia re: Grammy Joni in 2000? (NJC) [Bolvangar@aol.com] Re: Tolerant gay people? Where? [catman ] Profiles NJC ["John Villasana" ] Re: Profile (njc) [catman ] Re: Top Albums (JC) [catman ] Re: (NJC) Tolerant gay people? Where? [catman ] NJC:Tudor [catman ] Re: Mag Laundries/60 minutes [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Gay tolerance NJC [catman ] NJC ** Getting to know you ** .NJC ["bern.gallagher" ] Re: Profiles (NJC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Rickie Lee Jones story (NJC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] RE: Nanci Griffith (NJC) [Ginamu@aol.com] Profiles (NJC) ["Gerald Hillman" ] Subj: Re: Profiles (NJC) [Ginamu@aol.com] Intimate and Interactive [LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein)] Re: Profiles (NJC) [DKasc13293@aol.com] Re: Intimate and Interactive [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Magdalene Laundries - 60 Minutes segment [Brian Gross ] Fwd: Re: Intimate and Interactive [LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein)] Re: Grammys & the JM tribute album [Tejas4x4@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:09:53 -0600 From: "CraziAP" Subject: Re: Any suggestions? Absolutely: Tori Amos, Paula Cole, Michael Hedges(RIP), Fugees, The Orb Hmmm... Paula Cole and Tori Amos.. in a few years. I immediately saw that there are a couple, after I last wrote. But the Fugees? I have to disagree. Yes, they have some interesting and creative takes on other people's work, but I think their own work is surprisingly mediocre at best. Sorry if I ofend. Don Rowe wrote: Mary Chapin Carpenter, The Artist/Prince, The Smiths, The Police/Sting, Julia Fordham, The Fixx. There's no accounting for taste :) I forgot about Sting, and I'll agree with you on MC Carpenter in a few years. I considered The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (And Formerly Judged Sane). But where is his output now? He almost flat out refuses to play his older stuff, and his newer stuff seems to me stale and bland. Recycled in a new wrapper. Than again, maybe I'm wrong about it all. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:26:58 -0600 From: "CraziAP" Subject: Re: Welcome! Mary, Thanks! Yes, I am at the UW, studying undergrad Astrophysics. Wait! Don't run! I'm really not a geek! Wait, a geek never believes he's such... ;) Okay, so maybe I am a bit of one. I like the stars and planets and nebulae. No, I don't watch Star Trek, but I probably read more than is good for me. Hmm.. me...me... It's not a subject I'm really good at talking about. Either I talk about how great I am, or how much of a bastard I am, and so people never see what I really mean. I plan on continuing my studies at UW through at least Master's, then I'll decided where to work on my PhD. I'm a huge fan of Joni (gee, what a surprise), having been introduced to her by my girlfriend at the time (and something at this time, although with her soon to be out of the country for a few months, neither of us are quite sure what.) I moved from my home in Northern VA to here two years ago to study, after not really enjoying the schools in Virginia. And I like it here. Even the godawful snow. Stupid cold. Had to replace my starter last night at 6pm in pitch blackness and WAY below zero wind chills. Even my pancreas was a little frostbitten :) I'd refer you to my website for more info on me, but I'm afraid it's not ready for such diehard Joni fans yet. I have a little section on her, but it's not quite ready. Need more content. I have all the basics (lyrics, pics, discography, bio), but it's lacking something. I'll figure out soon and keep you all in contact. Don't worry, Wally. You're still number one :) I just wanted to portay Joni the way I see her, coming as I did so late in her career. Speaking of which, does anyone know a bunch about Joni's early work with James Taylor. I stumbled upon a recording of her 1970 BBC concert with him, and I really like the blend of their voices on some of the tracks. Okay, I admit it. I'm a closet JT fan. Some of his lyrics are really great, although I could imagine 100 singers better equipped to sing them at times. They wouldn't understand them the same way, anyway. Well, that's all. If you have any specific questions, go ahead an ask. I'm way too open about my personal life :) Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:52:58 EST From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammy Joni in 2000? Mary Pitassi wrote: <> Unfortunately, I don't think this can be the case....I noticed a nomination for PJ Harvey's _Is This Desire?_ (yay!! even though it's not her best), which, believe me I would know, was released on the same day as TTT. - --David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:47:03 -0800 (PST) From: "bern.gallagher" Subject: Sorry guys! NJC msg to P Henry Pat, could not read the file you sent me. Any chance you could make it Windows 3.1 compatible and resend it? I don't have your address, for some reason. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:48:15 EST From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Top Albums (JC) someone wrote: But I also can't think of a single artist whom I would consider brilliant who's career started after 1975. Any suggestions Catman mentioned Nanci Griffith. I love her version of Boot Of Spanish Leather - the Dylan song. Another brilliant song is Back-seat Driver From America (It's a hard life). Does anyone know if she wrote this song? Other brilliant artists (in my humble opinion): Beck, Sam Phillips, Adam Duritz of Counting Crows, Kurt Cobain and Paul Kelly of PK and The Messengers. Many more will come to mind, if not totally brilliant, at the very least very, very talented and recording music worthy of the 18 bucks the cd costs. Oh, just thought of a guy from Australia named Archie Roach. Catman (I think) said something about not liking Mingus. I love the humor of God Must Be A Boogie Man. When I play Mingus, it's the song I most enjoy hearing. I like the story behind Good-bye Pork Pie Hat also. I recall an interview in Guitar magazine, was it? Joni discusses the Mingus project in some depth and tells this great little story about how she came to write those lyrics. Of course, you've all probably read/heard it and are now rolling your eyes skyward. Thanks to the person or people who explained the meaning of the Magdalena Laundries. I'm relatively new to the list and enjoying it very much, though the volume of mail is amazing! I wish I had time to read it all. I'm trying to be selective about what I post in an effort to ease the mail burden some. Hope others will do the same. Gina ...and eighteen bucks went up in smoke!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:16:58 -0600 From: "John Villasana" Subject: Re: Mag Laundries/60 minutes Diane wrote: I bet they just didn't want to have to pay for it. Do they rerun 60 minutes the week after. I'm sorry I missed it. jOhn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:30:17 -0600 From: "John Villasana" Subject: Re: Gay tolerance NJC Bernadette wrote: I understand where you are coming from Bernadette. When I was in high school, back around 81, I had lots of gay friends. I always had an open mind and was very comfortable in their company. I went to the bars before it was hip to hang out there. 10 years later I'm working at a bookstore and I get labeled a homophobe because I won't dance to the beat of the latest PC fashions. No amount of explaining could reverse the condemnation of a very narrow minded group of people. What's more, it probably had more to do with the fact that I was a Mexican from the wrong side of the tracks. It's ironic, because I was never uncomfortable, and a certain group were always trying to shock me kissing in front of me etc. I took a lot of shit at that job and was very hurt by it. Since then I look at any socio-cultural group with wary eyes. I used to be very open and comfortable, but have become vigilant and skeptical when some group or the other claims moral superiority. jOhn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:36:32 EST From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: P.S. Trivia re: Grammy Joni in 2000? (NJC) It occurs to me that with the Grammys' history, maybe I spoke too soon in response to Mary's question. Consider: Elvis Presley won best gospel album for _How Great Thou Art_ in both 1967 and 1972 somehow....and Willie Nelson won song of the year in 1982 for a song written in 1971. So I say, what the hell...._Hejira_ for Best Pop Album 2000!!! ;) - --David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:54:32 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Tolerant gay people? Where? I agree also. Whom one loves in the romantic sense is not an issue except people make it so. And yes their are gay bigots too-in my bias they anger me more because they know what it is like to be on the recieving end-I am also more intolerant of homophobes who are non white too-or jews who hate too. Seems so many of us learn nothing from experience and only want to make others pay and here we go again..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:23:41 -0600 From: "John Villasana" Subject: Profiles NJC 1. Name: jOhn 2. Nicknames: John John 3. Hometown: San Antonio, TX 4. School: B.A., Centenary College, B.S.N. University of Texas Health Science Center 5. Bacon bits or croutons: Smooshed eggs, dill pickles. 6. Favorite salad dressing: Ranch 7. What do you drink: Water, Iced Tea, Any good Cabernet, Brown Ale 8. What type of deodorant do you use: Bath & Body Works (all flavors) 9. Favorite shampoo: Redken Moisturizing 10. Favorite Color(s): I Like all the colors 11. One pillow or two: 3, One Sobakowa 12. Pets: Be-Be, aka Choo-Choo 13. Favorite Movie(s): (of the moment) Julia, Rumble Fish, Boogie Nights, Heat and Dust 14. Favorite Types of Music: Just about everything. Particularly: RUSH, John McLaughlin, Jaco Pastorius, Pat Metheny, Gavin Bryers, Prefab Sprout, Yes, Nina Simone, Stylistics, Pete Townsend, Debussy, Beatles, and of course La Siquomb 15. Hobbies: Walking, Reading, TVing, Recording, Listening. 16. Dream Car: New Toyota extended cab pickup with camper shell. 17. Type of car you drive: Old Nissan Pickup with camper shell 18. Word or phrase you overuse: You know what I mean ( I'm never sure) 19. Favorite food: Italian, Tex Mex, German 20. Piercings or tattoos: nope 21. Do you get along with your parents: Pretty Well 22. Favorite town to chill in: Don't know yet. 23. Favorite ice cream: Any good quality Chocolate 24. Favorite soda: Coke 26. Adidas, Nike, or Reebok: Reebok Classics, New Balance 27. Favorite perfume/cologne: none 28. Favorite song at the moment: "My favorite mistake", "I am a camera", "Nobodies Hero" 29. Favorite website: All the Jonis's, Rush NMS, ABCnews.com, CNN.com 30. Favorite subject in school: New Testement Survey 31. Least favorite subject: The Nurse as a Professional 33. Craziest or silliest person you know: Me 35. Favorite holiday(s): Fiesta (San Antonio 36. AUTHORS: Robertson Davies, Alison Lurie, John Steinbeck, Margeret Macgary Morris, Peter Berger, Flannery O'Conner. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:34:13 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Profile (njc) > My > Dad and I get along but the monster he married Both my parents married monsters. Fortunately they did not breed true!! > makes it difficult for us to see > each other... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:33:46 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Top Albums (JC) Yes nanci did write that song and recieved a lot of flack for it. I like the song but dislike the way she falls into the trap of using the word 'fat' as derogatory. Apart from that the sentiment in the song is one I idenify with. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:34:09 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: (NJC) Tolerant gay people? Where? Lori-my my first 13 yrs(till we became JW's) I was brought up Catholic. Even today i catch myself thinking that non Catholics are 'less than'. Give me a child till he is 7 and I will give you the man... (Not actually true if you work at it but it is bloody hard work!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:33:50 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Any suggestions? Personally I think the Fugees are dreadful! CraziAP wrote: > > Absolutely: > Tori Amos, Paula Cole, Michael Hedges(RIP), Fugees, The Orb > > Hmmm... Paula Cole and Tori Amos.. in a few years. I immediately saw that > there are a couple, after I last wrote. But the Fugees? I have to > disagree. Yes, they have some interesting and creative takes on other > people's work, but I think their own work is surprisingly mediocre at best. > Sorry if I ofend. > > Don Rowe wrote: > Mary Chapin Carpenter, The Artist/Prince, The Smiths, The Police/Sting, > Julia Fordham, The Fixx. > > There's no accounting for taste :) I forgot about Sting, and I'll > agree with you on MC Carpenter in a few years. I considered The Artist > Formerly Known as Prince (And Formerly Judged Sane). But where is his > output now? He almost flat out refuses to play his older stuff, and his > newer stuff seems to me stale and bland. Recycled in a new wrapper. > > Than again, maybe I'm wrong about it all. > > Alan - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA�S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:36:11 +0000 From: catman Subject: NJC:Tudor We have found a mock tudor bungalow down a lane surrounded by green and far from the maddening crowd. We are going for it. It is easily in our price bracket. perhaps by April we will have moved in. colin - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA�S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:40:24 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Mag Laundries/60 minutes In a message dated 1/6/99 7:19:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, refab@neptune.ConnectI.com writes: << Diane wrote: I bet they just didn't want to have to pay for it. >> I'm betting they were not even aware of it. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:43:46 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Gay tolerance NJC I worked for a whil at a AIDS?HIV centre as a volunteer. I was disliked by many because: I wasn't peicred all over, no shaved head, i had been with my partner for 16yrs(now almost 18) and horror of horrors, we do not practice safe sex. They really had a go at me about that one. Thought I was too straight and all that crap. I eventually left, feeling quite disillusioned. if only they realised that the 'gay community' they know and live ing is small by comaparisaon to the one we live in. At John's work there are 4 other long term couples-Chris and David just had their 3Oth anniversary. i never did like the 'scene' that much and although I may enjoy the freedom of SF think i would actually hate it-if it is as depicted in gay lit and tv and films. colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:54:14 -0800 (PST) From: "bern.gallagher" Subject: NJC ** Getting to know you ** .NJC Don Rowe wrote > > As I fish out my jimdle police credentials -- "Getting To Know You" is > > Anna's song from "The King and I". But I'll let you go with just a > > warning this time. ;-) > > Really? You'll have to forgive me. > We had a lot of 45's which we played over and over when I was > growing up, and this was one of them. I've infused this memory with > my many viewings of Mary Poppins (we had that LP, too) and voila! > Charred synapses! > > Bern, now playing "In The Heat Of The Summer" Phil Ochs > Drunk with the memory of the ghetto > Drunk with the lure of the looting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:54:30 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: My Profile (NJC) 1. Name: TerryM- what can I say? I'm shy. And paranoid. 2. Nickname: Ter 3. Hometown: Deeetroit 4. School: Wayne State U- b.s., m.s.w. , post grad fine art-painting GO er..Go..hell, no one went to the games. 5. Bacon bits or croutons: On what? Ok, croutons. 6. Favorite salad dressing: Ranch, on the side 7. What do you drink: Pineapple/Orange/Banana juice, water 8. What type of deodorant do you use: Mitchum- I sweat too much. They lied- you can't skip a day. Trust me. 9. Favorite shampoo or conditioner: Shampure 10. Favorite Color(s): Red. For clothes- black and white 11. One pillow or two: 2 12. Pets: Annie, the Portuguese Water Dog and Maria, the box turtle 13. Favorite Movie(s): Wizard of Oz 14. Favorite Types of Music: Joe Knee 15. Hobbies: painting, mosaics, guitar/piano/bass/drum playing, shrinking heads 16. Dream Car: That 2 seater BMW sports car Z something, in sea green; old Marathon cab with the wood siding 17. Type of car you drive: Audi- business is good lately 18. Word or phrase you overuse: "Huh?", "don't forget to wipe", "WASH your hands", "quit poking the turtle's eyes", "Ugh, what's THAT?" 19. Favorite food: Chinese food, chocolate- oh my GOD, 7 layer cake from Star Bakery 20. Piercings or tattoos: ears pierced . Currently debating the risks of navel piercing with my 13 yr. old. 21. Do you get along with your parents: The one that's alive 22. Favorite town to chill in: NYC 23. Favorite ice cream: Lactose intolerant 24. Favorite soda: Pepsi 25. What's your bedtime: 12-1am 26. Adidas, Nike, or Reebok: Reebok Princess- most comfortable shoes ever made 27. Favorite perfume/cologne: Allergic 28. Favorite song at the moment: Song For Sharon 29. Favorite website: jmdl, jm.com and http://www.add.org 30. Favorite subject in school: Art, English, Psych 31. Least favorite subject: Anything with numbers 32. Favorite sport to watch: boring, the old man is snoring 33. Most humiliating moment: On my honeymoon, stopped at a gas station and walked out of the restroom with a trail of toilet paper stuck to my pant bottom. Tied with: my 1962 wrap-around red plaid skirt falling down in front of the entire 4th grade auditorium class. 34. Kraziest person or silliest person you know: My best gal pal, Lila who can make me laugh about wallpaper 35. Favorite holiday(s): I don't like holidays. Does that mean another 10 yrs on the couch? 36. Favorite saying: "What's the words to that?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: "bern.gallagher" Subject: Beatles in a bottle! > Marsha, never got into the "who's the cutest Beatle debate" either Don't feel bad. With three older sisters, I got stuck with Ringo. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:01:53 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Profiles (NJC) Damn, forgot the authors: Freud, Jung, Carlos Castenada, Anne Tyler, Joseph Campbell, Amy Tan, John Irving, and "Mr. Dummy". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:05:07 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones story (NJC) In a message dated 1/6/99 5:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, klempner@email.unc.edu writes: << Rickie CLIMBS UP ONTO THE COUNTER, grabs her beret from off of her head, AND STARTS WHIPPING HIM WITH IT! >> Woa. I'll never whisper, pace or nod off at one of HER concerts. I'll take a balcony seat, please. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:28:15 EST From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: RE: Nanci Griffith (NJC) Yes nanci did write that song and received a lot of flack for it. I like the song but dislike the way she falls into the trap of using the word 'fat' as derogatory. Apart from that the sentiment in the song is one I identify with. No disrespect, truly...but I guess I'm not politically correct to the extent that I would object to the use of the word "fat" in a song's lyrics. I'm of the opinion that in the case of the Nanci Griffith song, the ends justify the means. That reminds of a song by the Roches about a fat man sitting on a train - - all you Roches fans will know which song I'm thinking of. Just a random thought...one of a gazillion that pass through my mind every day. I promise not to send them all out to the list! Thank you, Catman, for answering my question. Gina "...and the kids got cokes and chocolate bars, there's a thin man smoking a fat cigar". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:30:56 -0600 From: "Gerald Hillman" Subject: Profiles (NJC) 1. Name: as above 2. Nickname: G, G-G, Cousin G, Joni, Willy - NJC, (schooldaze:) wonderboy, house plant (I disliked the cold then, too) 3. Hometown: Poplar Point, Manitoba (pop <200) 4. School: learned some fundamentals, did nothing for my spirit. 4 yrs of French and I can read the back of shampoo bottles in 2 languages. I wanted to take music. 5. Bacon bits or croutons: croutons, or both 6. Favorite salad dressing: Italian 7. What do you drink: coffee, extra spicey clamato, cranberry juice, gin, vin blanc sec 8. What type of deodorant do you use: Nilodor, kidding, none, hate chemical goop on my skin 9. Favorite shampoo or conditioner: "Sale" 10. Favorite Color(s): blue, green, maroon (deep colours) 11. One pillow or two: deux 12. Pets: 2 cats; Barbra & Stanley - brother & sister 13. Favorite Movie(s): Funny Girl, Ed Wood, Who's Afraid Of Virginia Wolfe?, What Ever Happened To Baby Jane?, Dead Ringers, The Color Purple 14. Favorite Types of Music: Joni, jazz, folk, world beat, female vocalists, acoustic guitar in any style. 15. Hobbies: guitar, my new music software, cycling, ice skating, completing profile questionaires. 16. Dream Car: a chauffered limosine (good one, Marsha!) 17. Type of car you drive: 86 Toyota Camry. Beige, rusty, and appreciated. 18. Word or phrase you overuse: groovy 19. Favorite food: *fresh* garden fruits & vegetables prepared by someone I love, or jello 20. Piercings or tattoos: L-ear pierced - at 17, beer, needle, potato, blood, enough is enough. 21. Do you get along with your parents: yes 22. Favorite town to chill in: rather be rural - a tent in a nice camp spot. 23. Favorite ice cream: peanut butter chocolate (but I'm tempted by that "Banana Pudding") 24. Favorite soda: Pepsi - most drank, not necessarily fave 25. What's your bedtime: about an hour, then I need a smoke, and maybe a snack 26. Adidas, Nike, or Reebok: Sorel 27. Favorite perfume/cologne: fresh air, lilacs in spring 28. Favorite song at the moment: no current fixations 29. Favorite website: Aside from http://www.jonimitchell.com ? http://www.22online.com 30. Favorite subject in school: Science 31. Least favorite subject: Business Law 32. Favorite sport to watch: Diving, gymnastics, skiing 33. Most humiliating moment: Asking the Jewish home care client if he wanted his "hat" as I held his yarmulka. (Dumb gentile! It was 6 am. I wasn't thinking.) 34. Kraziest person or silliest person you know: Bugs Bunny 35. Favorite holiday(s): car/camping trip to Long Beach, Vancouver Island. 36. Favorite saying: "A great many open minds should be closed for repairs." -Toledo Blade Get the picture? Sign outside a music store: "Bach Zing Week Sale". Loved it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:40:21 EST From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Subj: Re: Profiles (NJC) Ok, I can't resist listing my favorite authors: Margaret Atwood (Cat's Eye - my favorite), Flannery O'Connor (glad to see her listed in other's profiles as well), Toni Morrison, D.H. Lawrence, Ursula K. LeGuin Do I dare ask who people's favorite poets are? Mine are e.e. cummings, Yeats (of course), Emily Dickinson, Sharon Olds, Anne Sexton, Mary Oliver and of course, Joni Mitchell. Gina Slouching toward Bethlehem to be born ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: Intimate and Interactive Hey! Is there anyone out there in Joni-land who's willing to make me a copy of her performance on "intimate and Interactive"?? I will at least pay for the tape and postage and could possibly trade a couple of audio tapes for the video. Thanks, I'd really appreciate it. Luke ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:38:18 EST From: DKasc13293@aol.com Subject: Re: Profiles (NJC) Yes, forgot about "The Color Purple", one of the definate tear jerkers of all time. A terrific story. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:31:07 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Intimate and Interactive In a message dated 1/6/99 10:29:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, LucasBC@webtv.net writes: << Hey! Is there anyone out there in Joni-land who's willing to make me a copy of her performance on "intimate and Interactive"?? I will at least pay for the tape and postage and could possibly trade a couple of audio tapes for the video. Thanks, I'd really appreciate it. Luke >> Luke, If that video is what I think it is, it's under copywright and will be going on sale soon, so it is against the policy of this group to duplicate and distribute it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:43:56 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Magdalene Laundries - 60 Minutes segment I have the 15 minute segment on tape. In EP mode though, so it's probably a good thing Joni's music did not accompany it. I can spin copies of it for those who so deisre, as long as I'm not stepping on anyone's toes. Email me if you're interested. This is a limited time thing, as the show is in the middle of my x-files tape. Brian np: CNN with more impeachment trial preparation === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Glenn Plotner Subject: Re: Tolerance, Compassion, and Metaphor Lori wrote: >>I hereby modify my statement to say that "some" gay people were put upon this earth to Teach Tolerance by example. Or maybe I can only speak for myself. Or maybe it's all just total crap, and there's no hope for anything or anyone.<< I think our great step toward consciousness was in the application of metaphor to the self. We became not only able to apply metaphor to the utilization of tools but also by recognition of the self in others and others in the self. Likely, it was the recognition of death in those around us that reflected the self also as impermanent and temporal. Art and myth were born as a means to understand the self in the face of that silence. Through conscious compassion our journey becomes enriched because we learn through identity. We learn or deny through ALL of our journeys and encounters--there are not selected martyrs to the great unenlightened masses. We all share in the play for each of us and all things are metaphors in Being. But it's also nice to remember that we hear both suffering and laughter. We can take either into ourselves and identify with others in joy and compassion. They are our deepest human and conscious attributes. Robert Glenn Plotner == Ignatz Mouse's Tape Trade Archive and Seriously Disturbed Humor http://members.xoom.com/rabidfox Thought Experiments, The Metaphysical Think Tank http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thoughtexperiments _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:09:50 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: Re: Intimate and Interactive Oh, I hadn't even heard of the tape before I was just re-reading the Joni biography on Wally's page. I wasn't aware it was going to be released on video (like the pay-per-view special) and that's why I was asking. Sorry everyone! Luke, who is once again claiming igorance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:26:47 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Intimate and Interactive In a message dated 1/6/99 11:13:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, LucasBC@webtv.net writes: << Oh, I hadn't even heard of the tape before I was just re-reading the Joni biography on Wally's page. I wasn't aware it was going to be released on video (like the pay-per-view special) and that's why I was asking. Sorry everyone! >> Maybe it's my mea culpa. I thought that WAS the ppv special. What is this then? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:31:37 -0800 (PST) From: "bern.gallagher" Subject: Outta the way! Here are MY favorite witers Louise Erdrich, Jonathan Spence, Jack London, Virginia Woolf (Who is really #1), Andre Gide, Homer, Carson McCullers, Chaucer, the Beowulf poet and 8 trillion more Favorite poets: Sylvia Plath, Hart Crane, Borges, S T Coleridge, and about 73 more. B.- Don and me look up and there's a sign above the awning. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:07:32 -0800 From: Don Sloan Subject: RE: Grammy (or lack thereof!) Wally wrote: > Hi everyone, > Joni received not even one Grammy nomination for her wonderful album > Taming The Tiger, her track on Kyle Eastwood's first album, or her work > on Herbie Hancock's #1 Jazz Album Gershwin's World. Bastards!!!!! Curse them one and all!!!! Don NP: John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:55:06 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: Fwd: Re: Intimate and Interactive - --WebTV-Mail-1983091292-1638 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I already sent this to Paul (sorry for the repeat, Paul), but thought it wouldn't hurt to forward to the list. Can anybody help the Americans? (Gawd.. there's a question...) Luke - --WebTV-Mail-1983091292-1638 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAhkdYj/hKizma99wNBgwcITMrTqICFGONHDG+RxP/RSzK0Tif6Kynv+f2 From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:51:18 -0800 (PST) To: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Intimate and Interactive Message-ID: <13595-36944B56-3339@mailtod-131.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: IVPAUL42@aol.com's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:26:47 EST Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) I was reading the Joni biography and came across a part about a taping Joni did for Much Music's "Intimate & Interactive" series for Canadian television (filmed in Toronto). It was done on September 23, 1994 and I guess was 90 minutes long, including performances and audience questions. I thought someone on the list in Canada might have taped it or might have the tape from a friend in Canada or something. I thought it was weird when you said it was copyrighted, since it was on TV, but since it wasn't shown in the US it might be. Anyway, obviously the PPV special is different because of the dates and wasn't the title "Joni Mitchell: Painting and Music" or something along those lines? So you'd probably also be interested in a copy of the Intimate and Interactive if anyone has one, right? I posted that second note to the whole list (not just to you personally), but maybe someone will still respond with an offer. If not, I'll ask again. It sounds like a really interesting show if we can get our hands on copies. Luke - --WebTV-Mail-1983091292-1638-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 01:34:32 EST From: Tejas4x4@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammys & the JM tribute album I think Duncan Sheik would do a great male spin on "A Case Of You" Frank ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #11 ************************* There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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