From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #521 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 521 The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Announcement (NJC) ["John Villasana" ] Happy Holidays! [scott@scott-adams.com (Scott Adams)] Re: Announcement (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] sorry... ["P. Henry" ] Re: (NJC) Hypocritical irresponsible Republicans [catman ] Happy Holidays [catman ] Re: Re : harsh words (NJC) [catman ] Re[2]: NJC Apology/My Country [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: sorry... [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Announcement (NJC) ["M & C Urbanski" ] P. Henry stories ["Mark T. Klempner" ] Re: sorry... [TerryM2442@aol.com] R & D (N real JC!) [Steve Dulson ] R & D (N real JC!) [Steve Dulson ] RE: Kakki's Statements re: P. Henry PENs (long) [Brett Code ] R & D (N real JC!) [Steve Dulson ] R & D (N real JC!) [Steve Dulson ] fame, P. Henry, etc. [evian ] Introduction + Tape [LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein)] Re: R & D (N real JC!) [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Introduction + Tape [Mark Domyancich ] secret memo (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Re: Introduction + Tape [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Re[2]: NJC Apology/My Country [Diana Duncan ] Re: secret memo (NJC) ["Kakki" ] HAPPY HOLIDAYS ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Re: Happy Holidays (NJC) [luvart@snet.net] Re: Re: Re : harsh words (NJC) [luvart@snet.net] Re: Brownies (NJC) [Phyliss Ward ] A Sad Tale (Lost JC) [kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:54:53 -0600 From: "John Villasana" Subject: Announcement (NJC) Hey everbody! I just gradgiated from nursing schooooool! jOhn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:44:03 -0500 From: scott@scott-adams.com (Scott Adams) Subject: Happy Holidays! Happy holidays everyone! Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Have A Nice Kwanzaa, enjoy the winter solstice, Have a good Voodoo Magic Celebration, have a joyous virgin sacrifice, or whatever else your chosen "holiday" may entail. I will be celebrating the Christmas holiday and basking in the rural bliss of the Village of Strabane, PA. I relish the idea of being in a town that is not consumed with our President's "situation." I will be willfully disconnected from the phones, internet and snail mail, so you will not hear from me again until sometime next week! However, I refuse to set up one of theose annoying "auto -responders" to tell you I am away. See ya! Scott Adams _____________________________________________________ "Beware the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, then finds himself no wiser than before." -- Kurt Vonnegut _____________________________________________________ http://www.scott-adams.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:27:46 EST From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Announcement (NJC) John!! > Hey everbody! I just gradgiated from nursing schooooool! Congratulations! Where and when do we get together to celebrate? Lori, wishing everyone could join us in San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:29:02 -0000 From: "P. Henry" Subject: sorry... ya know gang... I wish you all could have been there... it was awesome! I had hoped to be able to share some of that gift I'd been give and did nothing to deserve... just to give it! were I in your shoes, this would have been the whole reason I would have joined... the chance to talk to someone who knew her... but I guess I'm different... I think that's all the posts I'm giving here... I just want to tell you all for your information, I do NOT seek to "enhance others' view of" me... (heck, you guys don't even know me! what would I gain?) I also do NOT "exaggerate", "stretch the truth", "play around with reality", nor do I tell "tall tales"! in short, I don't lie! I stand by every word and I really feel sorry that I failed to communicate the magic I experienced... but it's ALL true! perhaps someone is verifying what I've said at the source and perhaps someday you'll hear about that, but I don't feel I have to defend myself or the truth... y'all have a great mailing list... while I just 'slither away'... pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:36:17 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: (NJC) Hypocritical irresponsible Republicans Mark-just more or less what i was thinking. Of course it is do with oil. If the world is at threat, i think it is, it is at threat from the USA and UK. And the USA has already used the bomb and some other terrible stuff in Vietnam. Can't imagine either country(USA/UK) allowing weapon inspoectors anywhere near! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:37:36 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #517 Having grown up in Albury NSW(and been to Canberra several times) I remmeber Pavlova very well! Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Heather> > > ...and bastardise and Australian icon?!?! > > Mark > (Enjoying his pavlova) > > ************************************************************************* > "Only a dark cocoon before I get my gorgeous wings and fly away" - Joni > Mitchell. > ************************************************************************* - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:28:03 +0000 From: catman Subject: Happy Holidays I'd like to take a mo to wish you ALL a great time thru this Holiday season and i hope 99 brings a better self understanding and peace to us all. Just sneaked in to use this, sneaking out again. Trying to find a little nuke from somewhere to shove up the nieghbours arse.... Any tips? LOVE TO YOU ALL colin/catman/armsdealer? - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:28:06 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Re : harsh words (NJC) mmmm see what happens when you interfere and be grandiose? Jason did get you confused with someone else(not me) but it was you that asked for it to be taken off list which isn't for you to do especially when you send so many one liners like that one! And since then a few more. Mark Domyancich wrote: > I'm surprised no one came to my defense and no apology was given. > > Best, > Mark > NP-Stay in Touch > > At 12:14 AM -0500 12/21/98, Marilune@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/20/98 3:38:32 PM, jason.maloney@virgin.net wrote: > > > >>For chrissakes, stop being a jerk! ENOUGH! You accuse this person in > >>public, then tell him (in public again) to take it off-list! Isn't there > >>too much hypocrisy in the world as it is? > > ___________________________________ > | Mark Domyancich | > | Harpua@revealed.net | > | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | > | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | > |_________________________________| - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:09:37 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re[2]: NJC Apology/My Country ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: NJC Apology/My Country Author: RickieLee1@aol.com at fdinet Date: 12/21/98 5:53 PM In a message dated 12/21/98 11:17:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, LRFye@aol.com writes: << We -- through our own inept voting or through apathy -- allowed the current Congress to be elected, and now we've paid the price for it. >> absolutely lori...in a democracy, people get the government they deserve. but pay back will be sweet, and i have a feeling it will be HUGE, and i, personally, cannot wait... SOUNDS great ric, but do you REALLY think the next wave of clowns will be any better than this wave? I don't - I think that it's not a change of people, it's a change of process that's needed. Here's a crazy idea...Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this whole "representative" thing come to be because we were an agrarian economy back in the 1700's/1800's and it simply wasn't possible for the people to gather and debate/vote on issues? So we elected one of our own to speak for us? Well, simply put, that was then, this is now! We're connected, via phone, via computer, we can all debate and vote electronically or by 800 number, we don't NEED these Ying-yangs in DC to spend our money and make self-serving decisions on OUR behalf... Think about the birthday card - we brainstormed, we debated, we voted, we made & delivered the card, without having to hold a series of inane meetings and tacking on a lot of unrelated pork to the "Birthday Card Bill". Sometimes when you get totally lost, you have to go back home and start again on a different route - that's where America is right now, IMO. The GOOD news is that it CAN be done! It's like psychiatrists changing a light bulb...it takes a long time and the light bulb has to WANT to change ;~D Bob M, not running for any office (the media would have a blast with my past!) and stepping off his soapbox... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:25:28 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: sorry... Well, I was giving this guy the benefit of the doubt but am now joining the ranks of those who think he was yanking our chain - let's face it, all we got was 'you should've been there' & 'it was awesome' - no real dirt as far as I noticed. There seems to be overwhelming support from us to tell more, and then..."slithers' away like the snake in the grass he is. Maybe *BS* didn't mean "big smile" after all... That's a challenge P - if you've got stories to tell, let's hear 'em! I'd LOVE to be made a fool out of... If not, then I say so long Pat on your little island near Japan - tell the Professor & MaryAnn I said hello! Bob M, who is glad to send the unretouched photos of him & Joni to whoever wants to see it as proof of his "PEN" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sorry... Author: "P. Henry" at fdinet Date: 12/22/98 11:29 AM ya know gang... I wish you all could have been there... it was awesome! I had hoped to be able to share some of that gift I'd been give and did nothing to deserve... just to give it! were I in your shoes, this would have been the whole reason I would have joined... the chance to talk to someone who knew her... but I guess I'm different... I think that's all the posts I'm giving here... I just want to tell you all for your information, I do NOT seek to "enhance others' view of" me... (heck, you guys don't even know me! what would I gain?) I also do NOT "exaggerate", "stretch the truth", "play around with reality", nor do I tell "tall tales"! in short, I don't lie! I stand by every word and I really feel sorry that I failed to communicate the magic I experienced... but it's ALL true! perhaps someone is verifying what I've said at the source and perhaps someday you'll hear about that, but I don't feel I have to defend myself or the truth... y'all have a great mailing list... while I just 'slither away'... pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:42:38 -0500 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: Announcement (NJC) - ---------- > From: John Villasana > To: Joni List > Subject: Announcement (NJC) > Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 2:54 AM > > Hey everbody! I just gradgiated from nursing schooooool! > > jOhn > CONGRATULATIONS!!! What a nice Christmas present! Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:06:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark T. Klempner" Subject: P. Henry stories I'm starting to feel like a straight man put on Earth to make other people grumpy! :) Look, I loved Pat's last story--it reminded me of what it felt like when I heard Don McLean sing "Vincent" and "American Pie" when Don was unknown and couldn't get a record deal! Just sitting in a coffeehouse with about twenty other people, hearing those songs, and feeling this unbelievable sense that history was being made before my eyes. I, too, hope that Pat will share more stories. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:22:56 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: sorry... In a message dated 12/22/98 6:31:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, badwolff@angelfire.com writes: << perhaps someone is verifying what I've said at the source and perhaps someday you'll hear about that, but I don't feel I have to defend myself or the truth... y'all have a great mailing list... while I just 'slither away'... >> Hey Pat! Don't let a handful of GRINCHES scare you away! The majority of us are open minded, curious and grateful to have you around to share your fabulous little gems of information with us. Terry, who knows the folks in Michigan you're referring to ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:58:58 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: R & D (N real JC!) Marsha wrote: >and I heard a rumor >that Dulson is going to head R & D next year...is this true??? Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days ahead of that. See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! You're girlfriend, "Steve" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:58:58 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: R & D (N real JC!) Marsha wrote: >and I heard a rumor >that Dulson is going to head R & D next year...is this true??? Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days ahead of that. See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! You're girlfriend, "Steve" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:10:55 -0700 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: Kakki's Statements re: P. Henry PENs (long) I agree with Kakki. Funny thing, the more I hear from her on this and other divisive issues that arise from time to time, the more I realize that hers is good advice to follow. She's sensibility central. Everyone should read what she has written on the 'Pat' issue and just hope that we get to hear some good stories for the holidays. It could be worse - Remember that crank who told us about a year ago that he had had sex with Joni, where was it, in some drive-in theatre or something? That was ugly. "Beauty is truth; truth, beauty" - Keats Brett np: Blonde in the Bleachers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:20:09 -0700 From: Brett Code Subject: TT#& for Christmas Yesterday I asked if anyone could record Tape Tree #7 for me, and Bob M in SC has agreed to do it. Thanks to Bob for offering to make my holiday a happy one; I am grateful. Have I ever said how much I appreciate the generosity of people on the list? I do. Thanks to you all. Brett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:58:58 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: R & D (N real JC!) Marsha wrote: >and I heard a rumor >that Dulson is going to head R & D next year...is this true??? Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days ahead of that. See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! You're girlfriend, "Steve" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:58:58 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: R & D (N real JC!) Marsha wrote: >and I heard a rumor >that Dulson is going to head R & D next year...is this true??? Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days ahead of that. See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! You're girlfriend, "Steve" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:38:39 -0600 From: evian Subject: fame, P. Henry, etc. > I am not impressed by fame or famous people. > I agree in theory with the above statement to a point. When I first got into Joni, I really didn't know exactly how famous she was. Instead, I thought of her as someone who was big in the early 70's, and then kind of faded into the woodwork. Of course, it didn't take long to realize that I was way off base with this one! Anyway, I could give a rat's ass how famous Joni is or isn't, but at the same time, I still think it is fascinating that Joni, the Saskatchewan girl who hangs out at Earls in Saskatoon and shops at the same stores that I do when she is in the province, and attends the local fiddling and jigging competition when she is here for winterfestival, is also the same person who could actually call up James Taylor if she so felt like it, and has Madonna jumping tables to talk to her at parties. It is not her fame that impresses me, but rather the way in which she has used her talent to escape the prairies and produce a body of work that is recognized around the globe, all the while still retaining her roots and her connection to her home. It is this duality, the ways in which she moves between these two worlds, that impresses me. Thus, when someone like P. Henry posts stuff about knowing Joni way back when, I find it interesting to read these accounts. And, if they are or are not true, well, that is something that we can decide for ourselves. Moreover, if somehow I knew Joni, and was there while she wrote "Facelift" or something, damn right I would share it with everyone! I haven't paid that close of attention to the posts, so I can't say whether or not they are true or a crock, but really, if we don't believe a word of it, instead of attacking, we could just pay it no attention. Anyway, just thought I would do this post since people are getting all stressed about these posts of P. Henry. Happy Holidays! Evian np: Celebrity Skin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:45:20 -0800 (PST) From: LucasBC@webtv.net (Luke Bierlein) Subject: Introduction + Tape Hello everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself to you all on the list. I'm a 17-year-old student in Washington, USA. I've been listening to Joni's music for about four years now. That doesn't sound like very long, but it seems like it to me. Now for the really embarrassing part--I first really hear Joni on the "Friends" Soundtrack. I loved her voice and the song (which I was vaguely familiar with already). I bought "Ladies of the Canyon" and really went crazy over it. I think I bought "Blue" next (and you all must know how I felt about those songs) and then "Song to a Seagull" and "Court and Spark." Now I also have "Dog Eat Dog", "Turbulent Indigo", "Taming the Tiger", "Hits" and "Misses". Eventually I know I'll have them all, but I like to take it slowly and enjoy each album. I have a lot of catching up to do, though. My favorite albums are probably "Song to a Seagull" and "Turbulent Indigo" if I could only choose two. I love all the songs on the both the albums. I feel the same way about the other other albums, but those two really make me feel something. Anyway, I have been exploring the Joni Mitchell web site for a couple of years and only just discovered the list. It's great to hear from other fans via the internet because there aren't many in my age group and I'm sure none my age in my small town. Joni's different from other musicians to me because I just know I'll be a fan for life. I was also wondering if anyone would be willing to make a copy of Joni's '98 concert at The Gorge in Washington. I wanted to go to that concert, but I just couldn't make it happen. Now one of my big goals in life is to see Joni perform live! I know she doesn't tour much so I'm really hoping I'll get a chance to see her and regretting that I was unable to see her at the Gorge. So I was hoping someone on the list could make me a tape copy. I'm just starting out trading, so I only have a few recordings (mostly 10,000 Maniacs, but I'll soon be getting Joni's "Live in Philedelphia" w/ James Taylor tape from 1967). I'm really reliable though and if I had nothing you wanted I could just send you one (or two) blank tapes to compesate. Please e-mail me if you would be willing to do this for me (LucasBC@webtv.net). Sorry this post is so long, I'll try to break them up in the future. Thanks for granting your ears to me and I'm looking forward to further conversations! Luke Bierlein "But the clock is another demon that devours our time in Eden..." 10,000 Maniacs, 'Eden' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:59:48 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: R & D (N real JC!) Uh oh, do I see 20 more of the same posts on the Dulson horizon??? :-D Best always, Mark At 7:58 AM -0700 12/22/98, Steve Dulson wrote: > Marsha wrote: > >>and I heard a rumor >>that Dulson is going to head R & D next year...is this true??? > > Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been > bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank > Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) > > Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up > on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping > Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. > Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out > on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days > ahead of that. > > See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and > do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've > scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! > > You're girlfriend, > > "Steve" ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:03:21 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Introduction + Tape Hey Luke! Welcome to the list! I am also 17 and unfortunately still a student. As for the Gorge concert-you will probably want to get in touch with Kenny Grant (kg@ibm.net). He can help you out on it. Enjoy your stay! Mark ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:29:57 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: secret memo (NJC) (if this is a repeater, sorry, but the mail's messed up-----again) SD, that "bloke" wrote: >Boy, were you on the wrong side of the water cooler!?! I've been >bumped up into "R & G" - that's rumors and gossip to you. (Thank >Goddess I can drop that phony Brit spelling with my buddies.) GET OUTTA HERE!!!! I'll bet my brass balls you don't last 6 weeks.... although your making Julie Webb take a powder and come back as some pearl-diving hippie off Japan was clever, yet I expected the sniping nay-sayers to be quicker on the draw (as usual) and a BIG stink to waft through these halls. Most were much nicer than is the norm around here to a newbie with something special to recall in the zero-degrees-of- separation-department. And while we're carping about the boys upstairs, when the hell is "Kakki" that Kween of Mean going to get to take off her halo?!...we all know how her real personality is...what a stretch playing the "voice of reason" and "flowers of deep feeling" on JM's behalf! When do *I* get to be nice for a change? >Anyway, now that the "Aussies" (tee hee!) have everyone riled up >on the Clinton thing, it'll make my job a lot easier - pumping >Joni's White House overnighter in January was going to be tough. >Chelsea's "adoption" of Joni as spiritual mentor is coming out >on the 15th, and Liz Smith's column will be a couple of days >ahead of that. Great stuff, Stevie! Well, I do see why Geffen (he is scarfing up Reprise before next quarter, isn't he?) is using your girley guile and spin doctoring skills to set the pace for the New Year and give us some better fodder! And all those mass "resignations" last month by those "bandwidth bandits" firings was a great face-saving campaign, don't you think? Even though we probably miss most of those "Joni ain't so great" farters, heads did need to roll... >See, I set this up even before the promotion became official, and >do you think those Reprise swine would give me a raise? Hah! They've >scheduled *that* for April 1, but, we'll see! When are they going to fly me out for another one of those god-awful, boring "meet and greets" anyway? I would rather do Joan's handwashies up at the cabin in the sub-freezing temps, than make her 30 year fans line up for those never-ending photo ops with her...sheesh, you'd think they'd give me a break here. Maybe you could put a word in at the next happy hour? That last devoted-fans-at-the-Ritz-in-Atlanta thing nearly did me in.... >You're girlfriend, > >"Steve" When did you get that surgery, hon? Coming up on a couple of year's now? Great boobs....who did 'em? My Cooper's Droopers are needing attention. Maybe I could combine a consult with a visit to you "guys" out there. But tell Joan I am sick to death of those 4 hour lunches at The Daily Grill. I got botulism there last time. Well, have a marvelous holiday, dear, and please, please, please don't tell anyone that the new Joni tape from the PPView special is going for a pittance at Walmart alongside Garth's swill... xoxo, MoP ****bah,humbug****bah, humbug***bah, humbug*****bah,humbug**** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:31:27 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: Introduction + Tape Luke wrote: Hello everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself to you all on the list. I'm a 17-year-old student in Washington, USA. I've been listening to Joni's music for about four years now. That doesn't sound like very long, but it seems like it to me. Now for the really embarrassing part--I first really hear Joni on the "Friends" Soundtrack. I loved her voice and the song (which I was vaguely familiar with already). I bought "Ladies of the Canyon" and really went crazy over it. I think I bought "Blue" next (and you all must know how I felt about those songs) and then "Song to a Seagull" and "Court and Spark." Now I also have "Dog Eat Dog", "Turbulent Indigo", "Taming the Tiger", "Hits" and "Misses". Eventually I know I'll have them all, but I like to take it slowly and enjoy each album. I have a lot of catching up to do, though. Welcome Luke! Don't be embarrassed about how you discovered Joni - just be thankful that you did! And the good news is her best stuff is still out there waiting to be discovered by you; For The Roses, Hissing of Summer Lawns, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, and her masterpiece Hejira, not to mention the others I left out! And be sure not to overlook her live records, especially Shadows & Light - it's spectacular. Looks like you'll need to pad that college loan a little ;~D. Bob M in SC NP (Now Playing) Sponge "Rotting Pinata" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:57:32 -0600 From: Diana Duncan Subject: Re: Re[2]: NJC Apology/My Country At 09:09 AM 12/22/1998 -0500, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote: > Here's a crazy idea... We're connected, via phone, via computer, we can all debate and vote electronically or by 800 number, we don't NEED these Ying-yangs in DC to spend our money and make self-serving decisions on OUR behalf... I wish I could look at humankind with as much optimism and faith as Bob does. I used to believe in "the ideal" but now it's old cynical me. A total democracy won't work either. Hell, we can't get anyone to vote! Even my daughter, who voices her complaints and gets an earful from her mom about civic responsibility, won't register to vote. I can honestly say that in my college classes there were very few students who voted, even when there was a very heated city vote on human dignity. So.. I don't think that this apathy will end. Americans don't want to have to *think*. So lazy.. So sad. Diana, resident cynic ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:18:43 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: secret memo (NJC) "Marsha" wrote: >And while we're carping about the boys upstairs, when the >hell is "Kakki" that Kween of Mean going to get to take off >her halo?!...we all know how her real personality is...what a >stretch playing the "voice of reason" and "flowers of deep feeling" >on JM's behalf! When do *I* get to be nice for a change? Now that I've got my year-end bonus from Reprise safely cashed and deposited in the bank, I can spill all. I have received a very lucrative offer elsewhere in the field of dispute resolution. Some lawyer named Nicholas contacted me to act as Chief Mediator in the imminent impeachment proceedings against Santa Claus. It seems Santa has repeatedly lied to his constituents this entire year by promising each of them a Furby in their stocking on December 25th, even though he knew as early as last January that this was a complete impossibility. We are trying to structure a very complex settlement at this point and hope to get him off the hook with at least a censure, if not a full pardon. But if it falls through, he will definitely be reindeer pate. So, my spot at Reprise is up for grabs at this point, if you want it. And "Steve" - Big congrats - finally you've made it to the fun side of the Org chart! "Kakki" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:33:28 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: HAPPY HOLIDAYS + "X" "XXX" "XXXXX" "GOD JUL" "BUON ANNO" "FELIZ NATAL" "JOYEUX NOEL" "VESELE VANOCE" "HAPPY SOLSTICE" "MELE KALIKIMAKA" "NODLAG SONA DHUIT" "BLWYDDYN NEWYDD DDA" """""""BOAS FESTAS""""""" "FELIZ NAVIDAD" "MERRY CHRISTMAS" "KALA CHRISTOUGENA" "VROLIJK KERSTFEEST" "FROHLICHE WEIHNACHTEN" "BUON NATALE-GODT NYTAR" "HUAN YING SHENG TAN CHIEH" "WESOLYCH SWIAT-SRETAN BOZIC" "MOADIM LESIMHA-LINKSMU KALEDU" "HAUSKAA JOULUA-AID SAID MOUBARK" """""""'N PRETTIG KERSTMIS""""""" "ONNZLLISTA UUTTA VUOTTA" "Z ROZHDESTYOM KHRYSTOVYM" "NADOLIG LLAWEN-GOTT NYTTSAR" "FELIC NADAL-GOJAN KRISTNASKON" "S NOVYM GODOM-FELIZ ANO NUEVO" "GLEDILEG JOL-NOELINIZ KUTLU OLSUM" "EEN GELUKKIG NIEUWJAAR-SRETAN BOSIC" "KRIHSTLINDJA GEZUAR-KALA CHRISTOUGENA" "SELAMAT HARI NATAL - LAHNINGU NAJU METU" """""""SARBATORI FERICITE-BUON ANNO""""""" "ZORIONEKO GABON-HRISTOS SE RODI" "BOLDOG KARACSONNY-VESELE VIANOCE " "MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR" "ROOMSAID JOULU PUHI -KUNG HO SHENG TEN" "FELICES PASUAS - EIN GLUCKICHES NEUJAHR" "PRIECIGUS ZIEMAN SVETKUS SARBATORI VESLLE" "BONNE ANNEBLWYDDYN NEWYDD DDADRFELIZ NATAL" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:22:32 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Love or Money Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote: > On MOA, and on TT#7 Temple University Concert Joni does two tunes > which were new songs not yet recorded. Jericho eventually came out, > obviously on DJRD, but Love Or Money was never recorded in the studio. > Does anyone know why? From what I can tell, Joni didn't write too many > songs after she became well known that didn't make it onto albums. > > Bob M. > I always figured she did such a nice version of it on MOA, that she decided to leave it at that. Surely it wasn't a crass business decision!? (If you want this song, you gotta buy the whole album). I prefer the first explanation, but maybe someone else knows better. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:39:00 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Happy Holidays (NJC) At 01:28 PM 12/22/98 +0000, you wrote: >Just sneaked in to use this, sneaking out again. Trying to find a little >nuke from somewhere to shove up the nieghbours arse.... >Any tips? > > my dear colin - having worked for an explosives company for several years (i don't work there anymore), i think a blasting cap ennema is a little too quick. try making some nice brownies for your neighbors. just make sure you make them with Exlax. crush up some TUMS and sprinkle on top. i'm SURE they'll have an "explosive" time ;-) and if you could only get them to eat some hot chili peppers ... heather (mild chemist by day .....) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:24:15 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Re: Re : harsh words (NJC) At 01:21 AM 12/22/98 -0500, you wrote: >Mark Domyancich wrote: > >>I'm surprised no one came to my defense >>and no apology was given. > Then Eric Wrote (Taylor, that is) >Mark, when I start to read personal bickering, I scroll down. I did read >enough to realize that someone was confusing Marks. That has happened to me >before and who really cares? >Take comfort in knowing that very few give a flying fuck about personal >disputes on this list. Most of us are interested in positive news about Joni >and related info. The rest is SO deletable. > I knew it wasn't you Marky Mark. Eric is right. I'm glad there isn't another Heather ....oops, is there??? Heather (flyyyyyyying .....) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:44:42 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Brownies (NJC) luvart@snet.net wrote: > having worked for an explosives company for several years (i don't work > there anymore), i think a blasting cap ennema is a little too quick. try > making some nice brownies for your neighbors. just make sure you make them > with Exlax. crush up some TUMS and sprinkle on top. i'm SURE they'll have > an "explosive" time ;-) having worked for the company that makes Exlax for several years (I dont work there anymore) We actually did the brownie deal once. A guy we worked with had a habit of eating other peoples food out of the breakroom refrigerator. We left a nice plate of brownies for him in there, they disappeared. - -- Phyliss, whose favorite dessert is brownies! pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 98 07:20:04 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: A Sad Tale (Lost JC) Hey Brett, So sorry to hear of your tape loss (GLAD you got the car back!). More than happy to dub the Vancouver show again (which simon graciously sent to me knowing that I'd trekked out there to see that show). Let me know if you need all/part of tape tree #7, can accommodate you there as well! Best, -Kenny Got the car back. All the tapes were gone - except a recent recording of Jewel's first album. A tasteless, cruel cretin - chucks my JM tapes and listens to Jewel while driving around in my car. I'll never replace my lost old friends, but, with a little help from one of you, I could get TT#7. Would one of you charitable souls agree to record it for me? And Kenny, the Vancouver show - please! Thanks. Brett Joni-less - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #521 ************************** There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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