From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #502 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 8 1998 Volume 03 : Number 502 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni, Jaco and Stravinsky [Howard Wright ] Re: The time has come... (now NJC) ["Don Rowe" ] Re: NJC John Lennon shot dead in front of the Dakota-R.I.P. [Drewdix@aol.] PM Dawn & Joni samplings [bg26140@binghamton.edu] Tony Bennett, the painter? (JC by analogy) [Mary Pitassi ] Parker Fly Concert Profile(JgearC) ["John M. Lind" ] "Stay in Touch" ["Mark T. Klempner" ] Re: The year's Best Music (VLJC) ["Ryan Lantrip" ] 1998 Top Ten (SJC) [Jason Maloney ] NJC: Audiophile's Corner-CD player ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Parker Fly Concert Profile(JgearC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] Top 10 faves [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] Re: My 98 Top Ten(SJC) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: "Stay in Touch" [Mark or Travis ] 1998's top ten [Joseph Palis ] Re: Tony Bennett, the painter? NJC [luvart@snet.net] NJC - John Lennon - The Dakota usurped by the Chelsea!! [Bernadette Galla] Well mannered JMDL'ers [Bernadette Gallagher ] Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Fwd: Get it together(Holiday Music) -njc [Drewdix@aol.com] JONI'S ON SALE! MAYBE YOKO TOO! [mann@chicagonet.net] Fav albums in 1998 ["Kakki" ] Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] Favourite Top Ten Albums [Anne Madden ] What's a Furby? Expand your knowledge!! (NJC) [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Tony Bennett, the painter? (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Re: What's a Furby? Expand your knowledge!! (NJC) ["Kakki" Subject: Joni, Jaco and Stravinsky From: "david.wright@oberlin.edu" >Joni has talked about her admiration for Stravinsky. I had always heard >this influence in some sections of Paprika Plains, I think, but...in case >this hasn't been pointed out already...while listening to DJRD just now I >noticed for the first time that Jaco's bass line in "Talk To Me" -- in >the prominent melodic figure just before Joni's voice enters -- is an >exact quotation of the opening bars of The Rite of Spring (the bassoon >part). Yes - this was a favourite musical quote that Jaco liked to throw in when he could. It crops up on his solo album (on the bass solo in "Havona" I think) and probably elsewhere too. Another favourite of his was Hendrix's "Third Stone From The Sun" - he used this a lot in his bass solo spots when playing live, but who knows, he may have sneaked it in to Hejira somewhere as well! I think Joni mentioned that there was a piano chord in "The Arrangement" that she borrowed from a Stravinsky piece. It's the dissonant sounding chord that she hits twice: Daaa, daaa, DA-DAAA! ^^^^^^^^^ It's in the instrumental, pre-verse section I think. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 07:13:06 PST From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: The time has come... (now NJC) Best of 1998 (other than TTT, Gershwin's World and Kyle Eastwood) ... let's see, and not necessarily in this order: 1. Pilgrim -- Eric Clapton 2. Elemental -- The Fixx 3. Fundamental -- Bonnie Raitt 4. Best of ... -- John Hiatt 5. Ray of Light -- Madonna 6. Premonition -- John Fogerty 7. Enchanted -- Stevie Nicks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:37:49 EST From: Drewdix@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC John Lennon shot dead in front of the Dakota-R.I.P. Not to dwell on the morbid, but when discussing an event like this, I do believe it's important to get the location right. The Chelsea Hotel is a grand old place, but it's on W. 23rd St. Correct me if i'm wrong, but "it" happened just steps from his home. (Named The Dakota due to its then extremely "remote" position on the Manhattan landscape: "it's up there in/might as well be in the Dakotas!"). #1 West 72nd St.? - --DD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:00:25 -0500 (EST) From: bg26140@binghamton.edu Subject: PM Dawn & Joni samplings Bob M.- You listed PM Dawn among the best albums of this year... I've been thinking about investigating that one. I have their two previous albums, and on both they sample Joni: "The Ways of the Wind" features a loop of the beginning to "I Had A King", and "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" was sampled on their last album. Do they happen to sample her on this new one? I really like what they've done with her music--actually I heard their remixes before I heard the actual Joni versions. They know how to take some of her greatest moments in music and relive them. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:32:19 -0600 From: Mary Pitassi Subject: Tony Bennett, the painter? (JC by analogy) Hi, all: Just catching up on all the recent threads re: Yoko, Furbys, etc. I leave the office for the weekend and all hell breaks loose! ;-) Apropos of none of that, I saw on interesting interview with Tony Bennett by Larry King on CNN this past Saturday night. Among the many new things I learned: Tony has apparently painted during his entire life, and considers painting about equally important to him as singing! He told Larry that he paints and sketches every day, no matter where he is, and considers himself lucky: all he ever wanted to do was paint and sing, and he does both, all the time. And, although at 72 he is still hedging the retirement question (his response to that was, ". . . why??"), he finally conceded that, when and if he ever decides that his voice no longer meets his standards, he can see himself closing up shop on his musical career and painting full-time. Who does THAT sound like?! A few of TB's paintings were shown in the course of the interview, briefly. I didn't get a close enough look to judge, but they seemed pretty decent, especially some of the things he did with lighting. For Tony fans: his "live by request" special is airing tonight on A&E at 9 p.m. Eastern time, 8 p.m. Central in the U.S. It will feature requests and tributes by celebrities, as well as requests by other fans. Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:52:04 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: PM Dawn & Joni samplings You listed PM Dawn among the best albums of this year... I've been thinking about investigating that one. I have their two previous albums, and on both they sample Joni: "The Ways of the Wind" features a loop of the beginning to "I Had A King", and "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" was sampled on their last album. Do they happen to sample her on this new one? I really like what they've done with her music--actually I heard their remixes before I heard the actual Joni versions. They know how to take some of her greatest moments in music and relive them. Eric Eric- As far as I know, there are no Joni samples on the new one, but I didn't pick up on the "Sorrow" sample so I could've missed one. BTW, this is their 4th album preceded by "Jesus Wept", "The Bliss Album", and "Of the Soul, of the Cross"(or something to that effect) I agree that they use sampling not as a way to rip off somebody but rather to build on, albeit in a different direction... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:09:52 EST From: KerriLynn@aol.com Subject: TONY BENNET (NJC) Just a note to all, Tony Bennett will be on A&E tonite, "Live by Request" If anyone is interested.... your favorite lurker.... KerriLynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:20:50 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: My 98 Top Ten(SJC) Randy's 1998 Top Ten Albums 1998 was a good year for music, I had to bump a couple good albums to get down to 10 1) John Lennon Anthology-4 CDs packed with Lennon genious, heartfelt liner notes by Yoko. My bumpersticker: "Still haven't forgiven Mark Chapman" 2)Joni Mitchell "Taming the Tiger"-fave cuts: Harlem In Havana, Man From Mars. A very strong set. With her PPV, and live shows, a watershed year for Joni fans. Now if she would just stop complaining about not selling trillions. C'mon, Joni, you're a millionare with legions of fans, and most of your contemporaries can't even get a record deal! If it's art for arts' sake...... 3)Bob Dylan"Time Out of Mind"- His best in years, with a spontaneous feel, and Augie Meyer, too 4)Liz Phair"whitechocolatespaceegg"-excellent. Fave-"Polyester Bride" 5)CPR-David Crosby's best effort in 20 years, as he is reunited with his long lost son (sound familiar?) who turns out to be a great pianist and songwriter 6)Hole"Celebrity Skin"-In which Ms Love confronts Kurt's ghost, Hollywood, and makeup. This sucka rocks. 7)Firesign Theatre"Give Me Immortality Or Give Me Death"(Rhino)-first new album in 13 years finds the guys just as cutting edge and hot as ever. Multilayered heady humor. 8)James Taylor"Hourglass"-JT's had his ups and downs, this is among his finest. 9)Garbage"Version 2.0"-Don't listen to this if you have a headache. Faves:"The trick is to keep Breathing", "I Think I'm Paranoid" 10)Sons of Champlin"Live"-These guys could rock the pants off most of the Bay Area bands of the time, but were underappreciated. This recent reunion (Grateful Dead Records) finds them as hot as ever. Honorabe Mention:Sheryl Crow/Madonna/Alanis/Ramblin Jack Elliot/Stevie Nicks I Don't Get It: Beastie Boys/Kiss/Smashing Pumpkins/rap music Overhype of the Year: Marilyn Manson, the Starr Report Your 15 minutes are up: Spice Girls Curious but not enough to buy: Brian Wilson/Ani DiFranco/Page-Plant/Ringo Hotly Anticipating: new Fiona Apple/mystery 1999 Beatles release??? Farewell: Linda McCartney/Carl Perkins/Flip Wilson/Frank Sinatra/Phil Hartman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:43:52 -0500 From: "John M. Lind" Subject: Parker Fly Concert Profile(JgearC) Flyweight The Parker Fly Concert By Art Thompson From Guitar Player, September '98 SNAPSHOT - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- The Parker Fly Concert, a lightweight acoustic-electric solidbody constructed from wood and carbon and glass fiber, offers superb sound, playability, and feedback resistance. Flat-top pickers who perform with other amplified instruments often struggle with feedback howls and runaway string vibrations -- problems that can plague almost any deep-bodied guitar in the presence of high-volume stage monitors and/or backline speakers. Semi-solid or "chambered" instruments can mitigate body resonance enough to give acoustic players a fighting chance of hanging with loud amps and drums, but clearly the most effective solution to the feedback problem would be an "acoustic voiced" solidbody guitar. Parker tackled the problem by introducing the Fly Concert ($2,950) -- an acoustic-only version of the famous magnetic/piezo-equipped Fly guitar. The Concert features a lightweight, one-piece Sitka spruce body and a glued-in basswood/composite neck. The entire structure (except for the sides and top) is sheathed in an exoskeleton of high-modulus carbon and glass fiber. Parker Fly guitars are already extremely light, but thanks to the lack of magnetic pickups, the Concert tipped the scales at a feathery 3.8 pounds. The Buzz The Fly Concert truly stretches the definition of an acoustic instrument, but its exotic design produces far more resonance than a typical solidbody. Strum this guitar lightly and you instantly feel the whole instrument come alive. The Concert is also an ergonomic dream. Its gracefully contoured back nestles nicely against your body, the airfoil-like top provides ideal right-arm access for picking or strumming, and the lower horn is perfectly shaped for a comfy feel while sitting. The Concert's polished, glass-smooth neck meets the body in a flowing, almost liquid contour -- it really can't be called a "joint" -- that provides unlimited access to the highest registers. The neck's wide/ thick profile is a nice fit for most players' hands, and the mildly curved fretboard yields superb feel. The 24 medium-size, stainless-steel frets are well shaped and crowned, and the bronze strings slid smoothly on their satin finish. Rounder fret ends would be appreciated, however. Position markers are simple white ovals on the edge of the composite fretboard. An angled composite nut guides the strings to the non-staggered Sperzel locking tuners. Trussrod adjustments are made by inserting a 5/32" hex wrench (supplied) into an inconspicuous opening on the treble side of the blade-like headstock. The strings' ball ends terminate at a rounded composite tailpiece that also houses six beautifully shaped piezo saddles. The saddles are individually adjustable for intonation, while string height is set by raising or lowering the entire bridge assembly via three inset screws on the back of the guitar (a T-handled hex wench is included for this job). Fly Power The Concert's circuit components are mounted on a small PC board inside the nickel-paint-shielded cavity. Power is supplied by a single 9-volt battery housed in a separate compartment on the control-cavity cover. A cover-mounted LED blinks once when you plug a cord into the guitar to indicate a sufficiently charged battery. If the LED remains on, however, you have about two hours of playing time left before the battery goes belly up. I failed to notice a low-battery condition prior to an outdoor gig (the indicator is difficult to see in bright sun), and was soon experiencing blatty-sounding distortion whenever I dug into the strings. A quick battery change cured the problem. The visual battery alert is a great idea, but it's only effective if you see -- and heed -- the warning. Test Flight The Concert's active EQ provided enough boost/cut range to get a clear, ballsy tone. The concentric bass/treble control requires a little getting used to, but once I got it straight that bass is the outer ring and treble the inner, it was easy to shape sounds on the fly, so to speak. Playing the Concert through an amp (I ran it through a Trace Elliot TA100R, a JBL-equipped Fender Twin Reverb, and a Kendrick Black Gold 35) or PA system is unlikely to fool anyone into thinking they're hearing a fine Martin or Taylor, but the guitar's voice is at least as convincing as many of the electrified flat-tops we've heard. For strumming, fingerpicking, and the kinds of single-line solos you'd typically perform on a flat-top or archtop, the Concert's smooth, crisp voice works extremely well. Although, like most piezo-equipped guitars, it tends to sound a little quacky when you really lay into it, the Concert's impressive feedback resistance makes it a superior choice for those who play loud. Tested on a dozen or so live gigs (often in a trio setting with fiddle and upright bass), the Concert was a pleasure to play, and a real back saver after standing for three or four hours. Though one player felt it was too light (yeah, right), most everyone was impressed with the Concert's design and overall performance. Hot or cold, rain or shine, the instrument sounded great, played consistently, and presented no tuning difficulties. What more can a working player ask for? Does It Fly? The Parker Fly Concert is a superbly crafted -- albeit expensive -- instrument whose forward-thinking design elevates it beyond a mere musical tool and into the realm of functional sculpture. Like a fine sports car, this guitar provides a high degree of performance for those with the need and the means. If you play a lot of amplified acoustic music and are willing to sacrifice some tonal authenticity for outstanding electrified sound, ergonomics, and styling, the Fly Concert may be your kind of ride. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:20:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark T. Klempner" Subject: "Stay in Touch" Mark Klempner asked what these lines from "Keep in Touch" mean: During times like these The wise are influential They can bear the imperfections They can keep the harmony No doubt about it No doubt that's essential No doubt! That's always been a tricky one for me, So Mark in Seattle wrote: > At the crucial moments of a new relationship, those with some experience > & patience can look past the imperfections in both themselves and the > other person and see if there is a greater good to be gained. Joni > seems to be saying that this ability is essential in building a healthy, successful relationship and that it does not come easily to her. That's my take. Then Lori wrote: Well written, Mark! Synchronicity again ... my dear friend Shaun and I were discussing this over the Thanksgiving weekend ... In our gotta-have-it-in-a-nanosecond world where everything must be instantly gratifying and Perfect, people seem to be selling each other (and themselves) short by not taking the TIME to get to know someone before bailing out of a friendship or a relationship ... one slip and *poof!*... it's over! Now I write: Thanks Mark and Lori. Yeah, Lori I totally agree, and--zounds! more synchronicity--I just had one of those experiences. A woman I had been dating bailed out on me the day after Thanksgiving, just as you described. Your comment really reinforced my sense about it. Such a shame, but wisdom is hard to come by; even common sense is not common. (Are guys allowed "one big boo hoo"?) Mark, your interpretation feels right to me. I'd like to add that perhaps Joni is playing a bit with the word "doubt." She first expresses essentially what you described, ending with "No doubt about it/No doubt that's essential." Then, reflecting on the word "doubt," adds, "No doubt! That's always been a tricky one for me" bringing up the issue of trust vs. doubt that echoes through those lines from "Ladies of the Canyon": You know it's hard to tell when you're in the spell If it's wrong or if it's real But you're bound to lose if you let the blues Make you scared to feel. On "Stay in Touch" she leads into: We should just surrender Let fate and duty shape us Let light hearts remake us Let the worries hush. I love that "let the worries hush." It could be a reply from the older Joni to the younger. . . Mark (in North Carolina) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:25:10 CST From: "Ryan Lantrip" Subject: Re: The year's Best Music (VLJC) My top ten albums of this year: 1. Wyclef Jean-"The Carnival"(a very excellant follow up to his work with the Fugees, rap/rock/reggae mixture) 2. Joni Mitchell-"Taming The Tiger"(My first JM album, which got me addicted to her.) 3. Cher-"Believe"(Excellent rock/pop album, one of her best ever) 4. Lauryn Hill-"Miseduaction of Lauryn Hill"(another great Fugee work, reminiscent of Marvin Gaye in a way) 5. Pras-"Ghetto Superstar"(yet another Fugee solo project, very good rockesque rap album) 6. Tribe Called Quest-"The Love Movement"(The last album TCQ will reportedly make. Mixes of Jazz and Rap with other influences) 7. Rob Zombie-"Hellbilly Deluxe"(Good ole Gothic Industrial Rock 'n' Roll) 8. Willie Nelson-"Teatro"(Folky-country, one of his best i.m.o.) 9. Garbage-"Version 2.0"(Techno-rock. Very up in your face vocals.) 10. Public Enemy-"He Got Game"(Return of P.E.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:42:59 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: 1998 Top Ten (SJC) Amazingly, another year is drawing to a close....the UK charts have often left me bemused and frustrated, but there has been some great music released in 1998...you've just to look a little harder sometimes. So, in no particular order, my top albums are : CRAIG ARMSTRONG - THE SPACE BETWEEN US...including the devastatingly beautiful THIS LOVE performed with Liz Fraser, my favourite track of the year. AIR - MOON SAFARI HOWARD JONES - PEOPLE JONI - TTT.....this is growing on me with every listen. wasn't sure at first, but love it now. MADONNA - RAY OF LIGHT MASSIVE ATTACK - MEZZANINE PULP - THIS IS HARDCORE SARAH McLACHLAN - SURFACING NEIL FINN - TRY WHISTLING THIS PAGE AND PLANT - WALKING INTO CLARKSDALE Wishing all Joni-philes a happy christmas and a prosperous 1999, Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:35:34 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Audiophile's Corner-CD player I just bought a new, affordable CD player. It was $126 at the local appliance store, so the high-end owners can stop reading right now. Okay? Now the rest of you might be interested in a cheap player to hold you for a few years till your ship comes in or until the technology improves again. If so, consider getting a Sony. I didn't do comparisons at the appliance store (obviously). Nor did I buy 3 different brands and return the two losers. I put some faith in the Sony brand because they are the only mainstream company that also makes audiophile products. (Are there others? Anyone? Certianly not the budgetmeisters like Sharp.) How does it sound? Ridiculously great for the money. It has an ability to provide really low bass that I've never had in comparable, cheap CD players. The midrange is a little chalky on material like early Dylan, where there's no bassist. On "Blonde On Blonde", the snare, organ, and the master's snarl are all smack in the middle and it's hard for this listener to separate them- to resolve them. - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:23:17 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Parker Fly Concert Profile(JgearC) John, Thanks for the informative profile- it did clarify a lot of questions I had. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:57:16 -0800 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: Top 10 faves Surprisingly, I found quite a bit of new music to buy this year from newer artists and fewer releases from some of my older faves. Here are some of my picks for 1998. 1) Neil Finn: Try Whistling This - We saw Neil at the Lobero Theater in Santa Barbara on the first leg of his Whistling tour. The man is an incredible performer and showman with a great sense of humor. Just about every song on this new album is terrific, I highly recommend it. 2) Joni -TTT...Harlem in Havana is my favorite on this one. I loved the entire album on the first listen. 3) Hole - Celebrity Skin...Yeah, say what you may about Kurt writing all her material on Live Through This... and Billy Corgan on this new endeavor...I still think she kicks butt. :-) 4) Eve 6 - Eve 6... I think these guys are great...kinda popish but a darn good groove. 5) Kyle Eastwood - From There to Here.... I bought it for the Joni contribution but what a great musician Kyle is, I was blown away. 6) Offspring - Americana....Great punk band with a great sense of humor and a very funny new video. 7) Natalie Merchant - Ophelia....The more I listen to it, the more I like this new CD. 8) Jewel- Spirit - Beautiful music...Bought this one on vinyl and it sounds incredible. 9) Pearl Jam - Live on two legs....Decent live album, good vocals Eddie. 10) Patti Griffin - Flaming Red....Her new album is quite a rocking departure from her first, definitely a good buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:09:54 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: My 98 Top Ten(SJC) JohnLennon,Joni,Dylan,Crosby,Hole(80's band/cobain),Firesign Theater (good grief practically a civil war relic), James Taylor,Sons of Champlain, or 8 out of the top 10 are all acts from the 60's. This more or less proves my theory that there are very few new acts worth listening to equal to the oldies still playing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:10:04 -0800 From: Mark or Travis Subject: Re: "Stay in Touch" Mark T. Klempner wrote: Then, reflecting on the word "doubt," adds, "No doubt! > That's always been a tricky one for me" bringing up the issue of trust > vs. doubt that echoes through those lines from "Ladies of the Canyon": > > You know it's hard to tell when you're in the spell > If it's wrong or if it's real > But you're bound to lose if you let the blues > Make you scared to feel. > > On "Stay in Touch" she leads into: > > We should just surrender > Let fate and duty shape us > Let light hearts remake us > Let the worries hush. > > I love that "let the worries hush." It could be a reply from the older > Joni to the younger. . . I like it! Nicely put together, Mark. Sorry to hear about your breakup. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:46:04 +0800 (CST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: 1998's top ten my fave albums for 1998 (although some are old recordings that I bought only this year): (1) Urszula Dudziak - Magic Lady Amazing agility that reminds one of jazz great Betty Carter and picante improviser Tania Maria. Her version of the salsa "Papaya" is a classic vocal performance. (2) Sarah Mclachlan - Surfacing That voice that sounds from the heavens. That yodel-like top note of hers melts me everytime. "Adia" is a personal favorite. (3) Dee Dee Bridgewater - Dear Ella A tribute to jazz legend Ella Fitzgerald from a vocal innovator who will be soon just as legendary. The ultra-slow "A Tisket A Tasket" is a winner. (4) John Klemmer - Cry I always liked his sound on saxophone, and on this solo-saxophone outing, his outbursts have luminous beauty reminiscent of the younger John Coltrane before he started caterwauling in the 1960s. (5) Philip Glass - Heroes Symphony Once again a collaboration with Brian Eno and David Bowie since 1992's "Low Symphony". Classic Classic Glass Glass. :) (6) Holly Cole - Don't Smoke In Bed Released in 1993, Canadian chanteuse Holly Cole reworked jazz standards as well as contemporary tunes like Everything But The Girl's "Don't Let The Teardrops Rust Your Shining Heart" which is heartbreaking. (7) Count Basie Orchestra - Long Live The Chief Great big-band sound and beautiful pianism. Loved the version of "Shiny Stockings". The record that you listen to again and again and not know why you are drawn to it. Must be magic. (8) David Benoit - Letter to Evan Impressionistic rendition of original songs and songs composed by Bill Evans. The record that seems to grow on you after repeated listening. (9) Caecilie Norby - eponymous debut album Better than Cassandra Wilson. Jazz as art song in evidence in this record. (10) Frederica Von Stade - Sings Brubeck: Across Your Dreams An essential vocal record. Mezzo-soprano Von Stade avoided bel canto singing here and instead showed her capability for swing singing, monumental swing singing. Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:05:36 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Tony Bennett, the painter? NJC At 11:32 AM 12/7/98 -0600, you wrote: > > Among the many new things I learned: Tony has apparently painted during his entire life, and considers >painting about equally important to him as singing! He told Larry that he >paints and sketches every day, no matter where he is, and considers himself >lucky: all he ever wanted to do was paint and sing, and he does both, all >the time. And, although at 72 he is still hedging the retirement question >(his response to that was, ". . . why??"), he finally conceded that, when >and if he ever decides that his voice no longer meets his standards, he can >see himself closing up shop on his musical career and painting full-time. > >Who does THAT sound like?! > Mary & all - Hmmmm ... sounds like our Joni! I was lucky enough to see a few of Tony Bennett's paintings while in Carmel, CA a few years ago. A smallish gallery off the main street. Sorry that I can't remember the name of it. The paintings were really nice. Oils, if I remember correctly. Heather (loosing brain cells as years pass) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Bernadette Gallagher Subject: NJC - John Lennon - The Dakota usurped by the Chelsea!! I am really sorry I got the location wrong. But, considering I was only 9 at the time, I'm pretty proud of myself for remembering it was 1980. Thanks to everyone who corrected me. Let's all remember John tomorrow, also, of course, the Immaculate Conception. - ---------- > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 07:37:49 > From: Drewdix@aol.com > To: bern.gallagher@cwix.com; Joni > Subject: Re: NJC John Lennon shot dead in front of the Dakota-R.I.P. > Not to dwell on the morbid, but when discussing an event like this, I do > believe it's important to get the location right. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:38:37 -0800 (PST) From: Bernadette Gallagher Subject: Well mannered JMDL'ers > Hey Bernadette, Ya wanna fight! > > jOhn > San Antonio - ---------- My sentiments exactly! (minus the mexican part) B.- Sometime Chuckie had a car or Red had a car Or Leadfoot Melvin with his hotwire head We'd all go looking for a party Looking to raise Jesus up from the dead ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:11:24 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) - -----Original Message----- From: Bernadette Gallagher To: Joni Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 10:42 PM Subject: Well mannered JMDL'ers >> Hey Bernadette, Ya wanna fight! >> >> jOhn >> San Antonio >---------- Hey, Bern... What's up here? Is there a bully in the sandbox? Marsha, not one to be left out of the fray ;-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:46:38 EST From: Drewdix@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Get it together(Holiday Music) -njc This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_913088798_boundary Content-ID: <0_913088798@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_913088798_boundary Content-ID: <0_913088798@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Drewdix@aol.com Return-path: To: catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Get it together(Holiday Music) -njc Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:18:40 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-12-03 21:15:16 EST, you write: << You're not alone Wally. I like The Carpenters too. I think Karen had the most wonderful voice. Such a shame she didn't make it. >> Yes!! Yes, I liked the Carpenters! Their sound was so technically "perfect"- I haven't heard harmony like that since. their music definitely borders on excrutiating--or is it--no, it's beautiful--no, it's sugary and cloying--no, no it's...marvelously enveloping---strangely satisfying---let's hear a bit more.... OK, It's late, I'm tired. - --DD - --part0_913088798_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:26:54 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: JONI'S ON SALE! MAYBE YOKO TOO! Hey all, Get on over to MusicBoulevard and save $10 Lots of Joni CDs on sale, including TTT http://www.gamesville.com/redir/offers/musicblvd1 I just picked-up a John Klemmer CD (love that sax!) I used to own as an album. It's called TOUCH and really mellow! My total cost by check......$1.99 A steal! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:20:02 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fav albums in 1998 Some of these came out earlier than '98 but were my favs to listen to this year. In no particular order - 1. Taming The Tiger - Joni 2. From There To Here - Kyle Eastwood 3. Brian Blade Fellowship - BBF 4. Quanta - Gilberto Gil 5. Way To Blue - Nick Drake 6. Blue Condition - Bobby Caldwell 7. The Healing Game - Van Morrison 8. American Landscape - David Benoit 9. CPR - Crosby, Pevar & Raymond 10. This Byrd Has Flown - The Essential Gene Clark Kakki NP: Light's Out - Harvey Mandel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:31:33 EST From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) > Hey Bernadette, Ya wanna fight! > > jOhn > San Antonio John? A rumble and you didn't call me? ; ) - ---------- > My sentiments exactly! > (minus the mexican part) Sorry, Bernadette, you cannot subtract the Mexican part of John! : ) - ---------- > Hey, Bern... > > What's up here? > Is there a bully in the sandbox? > > Marsha, not one to be left out of the fray ;-D Don't y'all be picking on mi hermano! (Psst, John! Meet ya outside the "Tu y Yo" ice house on the south side!) >; D Lori, reving up the low rider in San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:44:55 -0500 From: Anne Madden Subject: Favourite Top Ten Albums From #1 to #10 - LUCINDA WILLIAMS - CAR WHEELS ON A GRAVEL ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:56:07 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: What's a Furby? Expand your knowledge!! (NJC) Here's a place where you can see a Furby, learn about what it is, and then enter a sweepstakes because they are giving away one Furby a day. I think we all should enter and try to win one. We can then memorize and sing Kakki's song to it (what a work of art that parody is!!). Or teach the song to the Furby and have it sing it to us. It knows 200 words and 800 phrases! I learned that here: http://www.etoys.com/html/et_home.shtml Laura :-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:52:36 EST From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Tony Bennett, the painter? (NJC) Mary P. wrote (and Heather reiterated this): > For Tony fans: his "live by request" special is airing tonight on A&E at 9 > p.m. Eastern time, 8 p.m. Central in the U.S. It will feature requests and > tributes by celebrities, as well as requests by other fans. I had the pleasure of seeing Tony Bennett live at the Majestic Theatre in San Antonio a few years ago. I had a good seat: the center of floor row M. At the end of the show, Tony requested that the sound equipment be turned off. He gently placed the mike on the stage floor and proceeded to sing a'cappella, just to show us how lovely the acoustics are in that particular theatre. What a treat! For those of you who might be in the San Antonio area in February, it was recently announced that Tony Bennett will be the "surprise" performer at the Stock Show and Rodeo ... no, I'm not kidding. Only in Texas -- at least I hope that's the case! Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:55:12 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) Lori, cruisin' for a bruisin' wrote: >John? A rumble and you didn't call me? ; ) "Put 'em up...put 'em up! (a la the Cowardly Lion) Marsha *:o) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:56:12 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: What's a Furby? Expand your knowledge!! (NJC) Thanks, Laura! >Or teach the song to the Furby and have it sing it to us. >It knows 200 words and 800 phrases! I learned that here: O - My - Gawd - Our own custom JONI Furbies!!! Yesssss! Kakki >http://www.etoys.com/html/et_home.shtml > >Laura :-D > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:06:26 EST From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Well mannered JMDL'ers (NJC) Marsha *:o) wrote: > "Put 'em up...put 'em up! (a la the Cowardly Lion) "If I only had a brain ..." "A heart ... "The nerve!" Lori S.A. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 98 07:30:10 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: Re: Indy outburst Hey Wally, Thanks for the clarification on this! The "drunken little fucks" bit is what I remember best from the eyewitness reports here (and also on the Dylan list, which I was browsing at the time) -- but sensational language has a tendency of standing out. Overall, what she said, and the way she said it, to me at least, shows alot of class. I think she made her point very well. It's a far cry from an embittered performer lashing out at an audience, just good old-fashioned self-defense against rude hecklers, and a plea for some respect. It just amazes me that at this stage in her career she *still* finds herself dealing with this crap. It was one thing to ask for "some respect" in front of an audience of a couple of hundred thousand tripping hippies at the Isle Of Wight festival in 1970. But 28 years later, after such a prolific career and an extraordinary musical catalog that has influenced so many and earned her recognition as a pioneer, icon, legend and master, she REALLY *shouldn't* be asking anybody to show her some respect! -Kenny On 12/3/98, Wally Breese wrote: Hi everyone, I've been able to listen to Joni's performance in Indianapolis from last month (thanks, simon!), including her supposed tirade towards certain noisy audience members. Here's what I hear on the tape: As she finishes the song and the applause begins, Joni goes off on the culprits, saying: "You're a couple of rude assholes. You know, you really are. Why do you bother to come to a concert and sit there and smirk and giggle and everything? You know, you're drunken little fucks! You're ruining it for everybody that wants to hear me. You maybe don't want to hear me, but why do you have to sit in my face? If you don't wanna listen, then get out of here until Bobby comes on, eh? You're ruining my performance! " Joni isn't screaming while she says this, just stating her case bluntly and firmly. She then launches into a rougher than usual version of "Sex Kills." After she finishes "SK," Joni starts into the story behind her next song, "The Magdalene Laundries," but a few fans yell out their support for her previous outburst, so she says "Oh, thank you" to them, and adds: "I'm just a tempermental artist, aren't I? (Audience applauds and hoots) No, it's inhibiting. They were mimicking the way I move, and giggling and everything. It's inhibiting. It's hard to get over. We're human up here. It's not a movie." ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #502 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?