From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #495 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 2 1998 Volume 03 : Number 495 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Rush [Evan + Vanessa Thomson ] Re[2]: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira ["John M. Lind" ] Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira [Dreamzvill@aol.com] Fwd: How To Have The Blues (NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com] Movie Review "'Round Midnight" (NJC) [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Dilemmas in life (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Marian Unplugged - report [M.Russell@iaea.org] Re: Rush(NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com] Re: Marian Unplugged - report [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] RE: Marian Unplugged - report [M.Russell@iaea.org] Hejira in Madison?? [Mary Pitassi ] Pay-per-view special on home video before Christmas? [Mary Pitassi ] Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) [Susan Chaloner ] Hoping for a wonderful Christmas [Claud.Loren.Carter@ccMail.Census.Gov] Re: JMDL Digest V3 #494 ["Kim Korman Brown" ] Re: Marian Unplugged - report ["Marsha" ] Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Re[2]: Dilemmas in life (NJC) [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Only for hard-core Joniphiles ["Leong, Dennis" ] Re: Hoping for a wonderful Christmas [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) [Susan Chaloner ] Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling ["Ellen F. Fitzgerald" ] Re: Only for hard-core Joniphiles ["Marsha" ] Re: Pay-per-view special on home video before Christmas? [Mark Domyancich] Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Dino, Gino & Jesse (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Re: Get it together [Corry Hanna ] Thanks to you all [Michael Paz ] Re: Get it together [Brian Gross ] NJC: Thoughts for the day ["Janis" ] Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira [TerryM2442@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:13:46 +1100 From: Evan + Vanessa Thomson Subject: Rush Hello, I am so sorry this is late but I only just caught up on my digests... in regards to the Rush inquiry (I can't remember who the lady was!), my husband is a big fan and he said that their mailing list is: National Midnight Star Another list that could help your son in regards to other like minded people who like prog music is the Dream Theater List at: www.dreamtheater.com also again try the King Crimson list which is an excellent and very stimulating list and their list is known as: Elephant Digest Sorry this is so late and not as comprehensive as I would've liked... hope your son finds what he needs. Vanessa. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:08:29 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re[2]: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira I just have one thing to say (haven't heard TTT yet) - have you noticed how folks complain and worry whenever Joni moves along into something outside the comfort of familiarity? :-) Vicki - welcome to JMDL-land! Looks like you need to get TTT for yourself as an early Christmas present. Hey, it even has one of her "morbid Christmas ballads" on it! Bob M. in SC NP:(Now Playing): Nat King Cole "Silent Night" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 08:08:07 -0500 From: "John M. Lind" Subject: Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira Eric wrote: >>I've read complaints about Joni's new guitar sound, lyrics & paintings on the JMDL during the past months scratching my head wondering how fans could be so narrow-minded. The bell-like clarity of the VG-8 is resoundingly fresh, complementing her silky voice like oak on a bonfire! The funniest thing about these complaints to me has been the repeated problem of wishing Joni would hook the VG8 up to an acoustic guitar .The Parker Concert which she uses in conjuction with the VG8 *is* an acoustic guitar. The body style is the same as Parker's electric models, but the "concert" is an acoustic with an internal pickup. John~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:36:26 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira jonEric - I was wondering where you'd wandered off to. Welcome back! Lucky you, to be in such a beautiful setting, surrounded by such beautiful sounds!!! Looking forward to your posts (I've told you, haven't I? You're one of my favorite writers! :) Cheers, Susan C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:42:51 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Fwd: How To Have The Blues (NJC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_912519772_boundary Content-ID: <0_912519772@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Got this comic gem from Texasflood, the Stevie Ray Vaughan list! Cheers, Susan C. - --part0_912519772_boundary Content-ID: <0_912519772@inet_out.mail.secollege.edu.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v51.29) with SMTP; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:08:40 1900 Received: from moss.verinet.com (moss.verinet.com [204.144.246.15]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA02247; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mailnull@localhost) by moss.verinet.com (8.9.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA32437; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:58:38 -0700 Received: by moss.verinet.com (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:58:37 +0000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by moss.verinet.com (8.9.0/8.6.9) id MAA32422 for texasflood-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:58:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: moss.verinet.com: majordom set sender to owner-texasflood using -f Received: from gateway.secollege.edu ([206.251.119.1]) by moss.verinet.com (8.9.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA32418 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:58:35 -0700 Received: from mail.secollege.edu ([172.18.3.10]) by gateway.secollege.edu via smtpd (for moss.verinet.com [204.144.246.15]) with SMTP; 30 Nov 1998 20:03:51 UT Received: from secollege.edu ([172.18.11.119]) by mail.secollege.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 223 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:04:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3662F979.DE8724B@secollege.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:00:58 -0500 From: "Timothy J Zeager" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: texasflood@moss.verinet.com Subject: Blues (NO SRV) Sender: owner-texasflood@moss.verinet.com Reply-To: texasflood@moss.verinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hey, I found this and thought it was quite amusing about blues singing. Happy reading!!! P.S.- SRV sang the blues! HOW TO SING THE BLUES 1. Most blues begin "woke up this morning." 2. "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the blues, unless you stick something nasty in the next line. I got a good woman- with the meanest dog in town. 3. Blues are simple. After you have the first line right, repeat it. Then find something that rhymes. Sort of. Got a good woman with the meanest dog in town. He got teeth like Margaret Thatcher and he weighs about 500 pounds. 4. The blues are not about limitless choice. Blues cars are Chevies and Cadillacs. Other acceptable blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die. 6. Teenagers can't sing the blues. Adults sing the blues. Blues adulthood means old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis. 7. You can have the blues in New York City, but not in Brooklyn or Queens. Hard times in Vermont or North Dakota are just a depression. Chicago, St. Louis and Kansas City are still the best places to have the blues. 8. The following colors do not belong in the blues: a. violet b. beige c. mauve 9. You can't have the blues in an office or a shopping mall, the lighting is wrong. 10. Good places for the Blues: a. the highway b. the jailhouse c. the empty bed Bad places: a. Ashrams b. Gallery openings c. weekend in the Hamptons 11. No one will believe it's the blues if you wear a suit, unless you happen to be an old black man. 12. Do you have the right to sing the blues? Yes, if: a. your first name is a southern state, like Georgia b. you're blind c. you shot a man in Memphis. d. you can't be satisfied. No, if: a. you were once blind but now can see. b. you're deaf c. you have a trust fund. 13. Neither Julio Iglesias nor Barbara Streisand can sing the blues. 14. If you ask for water and your baby gives you gasoline, it's the blues. Other blues beverages are: a. wine b. Irish whiskey c. Muddy water Blues beverages are NOT: a. Any mixed drink b. Any wine kosher for Passover c. Yoo Hoo (all flavors) 15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is a blues way to die. So is the electric chair, substance abuse or being denied treatment in an emergency room. It is not a blues death, if you die during a liposuction treatment. 16. Some Blues names for Women a. Sadie b. Big Mama c. Bessie 17. Some Blues Names for Men a. Joe b. Willie c. Little Willie d. Lightning Persons with names like Sierra or Sequoia will not be permitted to sing the blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis. 17B. Other Blues Names (Starter Kit) a. Name of Physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Asthmatic) b. First name (see above) or name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi) c. Last Name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.) - --part0_912519772_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:56:21 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Movie Review "'Round Midnight" (NJC) Since Julie's movie reviews are on hiatus, I'll chime in here with one about a video I watched over the last couple of days. 'Round Midnight is an older film, don't recall the year, but it's the story of a jazz musician named Dale Turner, played to perfection by Dexter Gordon (no great stretch for him to play a master saxophonist, but he handles the non-music scenes with warmth as well). The film features a lot of great music, supplied by Herbie Hancock (more synchronicity), Ron Carter, Freddie Hubbard, and Joni's own Wayne Shorter. The plot was interesting to me as it dealt with Dale's redemption from addiction due to the involvement of a true fan of his music. Truly an uplifting movie, for those of you who may not like "foreign" films, it has some subtitles as the bulk of the film takes place in France, but for me that just adds to the charm. Like I said, not a new film, but if it's one that got by you, check it out... Bob M. in SC NP: Bonnie Raitt, "Storm Warning" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:18:23 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Dilemmas in life (NJC) Diana Krall is here (Knoxvegas) Saturday night at 8P. Susan Werner is down the street, same night at 9:40P. Goal: See the maximum of both shows. Choose date of: 1-contemporary who lives 2 hours away, is musical, but perhaps ?boring. 2-handsome and younger-than-me-a-lot doctoral student, non-musical, but highly-stimulating on several fronts ;-) Marsha, contemplating asking a girlfriend to "double date" with all... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:49:39 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Marian Unplugged - report My show went pretty well. I felt good about how I sounded in spite of a cold/cough I am getting over. It's also really different to try to sing in a very dry and smoky environment as opposed to practicing in the clean air at home. I had to drink a lot of water between songs and it wasn't always especially helpful. I really appreciate all the good wishes I received from so many of you here on the list before my show. I'm sure it was very helpful on a cosmic level! I felt really comfortable on the stage and I was able to really focus on the music - to put my heart into all of the songs. There were some songs that I played better than I have ever played them before - especially This Flight Tonight and The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey - so that was exciting for me. I was surprised that people liked TWTLIL because it is such a strange song, but they really liked it. I really enjoyed performing - but I'm kind of an emotional basket case today - - I spent a lot of time preparing for the show and now it's over. I wish that more of the people who said they would be there but didn't make it for whatever reasons would have been there and also that everyone who did come could have stayed for the whole show, but a lot of people had to leave because of long journeys home and having to get up early the next day for work. My best friend had to leave because she had promised to help her daughter with a school project. I found out later from the Austrian Joni fans that my show had been advertised as starting at 9 p.m. instead of 8 p.m. and so maybe more people would have come if it had been earlier. In the end, only my husband and some Austrian Joni fans were left, but everyone who was there was very complimentary (people have called and emailed me today) and a few friends were really astonished that I could do this, since it's not something I've shared with anyone here. The Austrian Joni fans were especially complimentary and enthusiastic in their applause which I appreciated very much, because their applause was coming from a knowledge and love of Joni's music. I will probably do it again. I think I will organize the music a little differently, though. I think it's too ambitious, too long of a program, to try to do one song from every Joni album, especially since some albums have two or more songs that I really enjoy singing and don't want to leave out of the program. Because so many people left, I ended up cutting back my program very much - only sang 18 songs instead of the 32 or so that I had prepared. I sang for about 1hr 45min. My set list was: Just Like This Train Sisotowbell Lane Coyote Marcie Electricity This Flight Tonight Eastern Rain Sweet Bird Cold Blue Steel Sex Kills Moon At the Window Barangrill Night in the City Both Sides Now The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Harry's House The Crazy Cries of Love Night Ride Home I wish you all could have been there to sing along! Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:12:44 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Re: Rush(NJC) Vanessa - Thanks for the answer to my Rush inquiry! Yes, we were able to hook up with at least one Rush mailing list - I believe it was called the 2112 list, run by someone named Toussaint. John in Georgia turned us on to it. I'll pass on the info to my son about "Midnight Star" and all others, also. All you progressive folks out there know of any Yes lists? Cheers, Susan C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:13:39 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: Marian Unplugged - report ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ I sang for about 1hr 45min. My set list was: Just Like This Train Sisotowbell Lane Coyote Marcie Electricity This Flight Tonight Eastern Rain Sweet Bird Cold Blue Steel Sex Kills Moon At the Window Barangrill Night in the City Both Sides Now The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Harry's House The Crazy Cries of Love Night Ride Home Marian - what an awesome set!! I'm sorry that some of the "shows" turned to "no-shows". From my own experiences of doing theater, I've gotten used to folks saying 'I've got to come check that out' and never following through - of course it sounds like the Austrian Joniphiles came through for ya'. I don't suppose you recorded the show...? I wish you all could have been there to sing along! Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:29:47 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: RE: Marian Unplugged - report > - of course > it sounds like the Austrian Joniphiles came through for ya'. > The Austrian Joniphiles were great! A real bonus to have them in the audience for the whole evening! > I don't suppose you > recorded the show...? > Unfortunately, I didn't. I brought a small recorder along, but then forgot about it in the excitement of being up on the stage. :^( Maybe next time. Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:10:43 -0600 From: Mary Pitassi Subject: Hejira in Madison?? Mary Becker wrote: " have a question about the cover of "Hejira" that doesn't relate to all the "hidden" images referred to in an earlier thread. When "Hejira" was released, I remember hearing (or reading)that the frozen lake on the cover was Lake Mendota in Madison,WI. I was living there at the time, about 2 blocks from the lakeshore, so of course I thought that was really cool, but don't remember the source of the info, maybe something local in Madison. (This is also supposedly the lake that Otis Redding's plane crashed into.)" Mary: Last May, I was driving in my car and heard a DJ on local radio station WMMM (which was doing a lunch hour special on Joni, Dylan, and Van Morrison to celebrate the West Coast mini-tour going on at the time) announce that the cover of _Hejira_ had been shot behind the Edgewater Hotel on the shore of Lake Mendota in Madison--and I nearly drove off the road!! I'm familiar with this location, and yes, it does look like it could very easily have been the site of the _Hejira_ cover. I'll try to verify this through Triple M, but thought you should know that this version of Joni history is *still* being repeated in Madison to this day! Mary P., in Madison, and blessed with a beautiful view of Lake Mendota *every single day* from our lunchroom at work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:30:30 -0600 From: Mary Pitassi Subject: Pay-per-view special on home video before Christmas? I apologize if this post asks for information that is already common knowledge, but does anyone know the date that Joni's pay-per-view special, "Painting with Words and Music" (original U.S. air date: 11/6/98) will be available for sale on home video? Specifically, does anyone know if it's expected to be released before Christmas? I missed the broadcast because I was out of town that weekend. I'm now debating about whether I should place it on the Christmas "wish list" that's been requested by several family members (the debate is only because of confusion as to the release date, NOT because I don't want the tape!). I may also wish to buy this as a gift for others. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:37:45 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Re: Movie Review "'Round Midnight" (NJC) Hey Bob - Good morning! Thanks for the tip to "'Round Midnight" - it's been awhile since I've seen it, and I don't think my lovin' husband ever has, so it looks like we'll be putting it on the "To Rent" list. Along with "Bird" - Clint Eastwood's movie about Charlie Parker still rates as one of my very favorite, most touching movies about music. Cheers, Susan PS: Good luck with kitty-kat Piper - black cats bring GOOD luck! :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:37:43 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira In a message dated 12/1/98 8:13:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, jml@amweaver.com writes: << The Parker Concert which she uses in conjuction with the VG8 *is* an acoustic guitar. The body style is the same as Parker's electric models, but the "concert" is an acoustic with an internal pickup. >> It is?? I didn't know that! I was just at the music store, looking at the Parker Fly out of curiousity and the guy there said Joni probably chose it because it's feather light. Seeing her play it in concert, it sure didn't look like an acoustic. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:51:50 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Marian Unplugged - report Oooh Marian, I'm SO happy for you! Those who couldn't come or stay were the ones who missed out. BooHoo on THEM. You're giving me the spark to maybe give it a try here, though I don't think I'm as brave as you- I'd prefer some bandmates. How did you retune during the breaks? Were they patient? Was it hard to hear? Your setlist was fantastic! Way to GO! Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:45:06 -0600 From: Mary Pitassi Subject: Madison lakes (absolutely NJC) Oops: I guess it's Lake Monona that I have the wonderful view of. In the immortal words of Emily Litella, "*never mind*"! Mary P., Noting for the record, however, that even the august New York Times screwed up its listing of the Madison lakes last week. In writing up an interview with writer Lorrie Moore, a Madison resident, the Times made reference to the city's *three* lakes: Mendota, Monona and Wingra. (They forgot Waubesa). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 08:57:36 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) Marsha wrote: > Marsha, contemplating asking a girlfriend to "double date" with all... Marsha! McBabe! Why? Oh, why?! Can't you handle both yourself? ;~D Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...I was free in Paris..."-JoniM with world reduction ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:15:11 -0500 From: Claud.Loren.Carter@ccMail.Census.Gov Subject: Hoping for a wonderful Christmas First off, howdy. This is my first day here on this list, so let me apologize if I should step on any toes, or cover any topics that have been recently discussed at length. My wife and I recently had the pleasure of seeing Joni and Bob Dylan in concert at the University of Maryland the first week of November. The concert was great, and lasted well into the night (opening act at 7pm, Bob finally left the stage around 1145 (on a school night no less!). We had floor seats, and the whole event was excellent. My wife has been/is a Joni Mitchell fan for years and years. She last saw Joni in New Orleans at a Jazz-fest, 10+ years ago. Well, Joni hadn't been to the DC area in 17 years, so I had to get her/us tickets. We got there early, my wife (Lucy) almost ran from the parking lot to the arena she was so excited. Once inside we visited the souvenier (sp?)stand. We got a concert poster and a "Happiness is the best face lift" tee shirt. They also were selling Taming the Tiger lithographs (signed and unsigned). We decided not to get one since it would have been difficult to keep it pristine during the concert. With 20-20 hindsight I should have gotten her one anyway. But, with a major gift giving holiday rapidly approaching, I would like to get her one as a present. I think she would really love it. So I ask the assembled fans here if anyone has any ideas or places or thoughts or people or phone numbers that I could use to track one of these lithographs down. I've put in calls and e-mails to Reprise Records, Wally, the keeper of JONIMITCHELL.COM, and a cataloge sales company named Vroom. I was thinking that if she were to be in concert somewhere soon, I could call the arena where she will be performing, and maybe get a hold of her folks there, but I sit here running out of ideas. Any and all leads will be greatly, humbly, and sincerely appreciated. Loren...... P.S....Mary....sorry to pester you twice, and thanks for showing me the way...lc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:25:12 +500 From: "Kim Korman Brown" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #494 Hi Mary I had a magazine article from around 1983 that I carried around and eventually lost, that addressed that very lake. It was an article about Joni Mitchell's photography, (I can't remember the magazine, it was a music magazine of some kind) and included a double of exposure of Jackson Browne asleep in a bus seat, mixed with I think a scene of the prairie. It's been so long, I can't remember, but they talked about those two lakes outside Madison and how she took pictures there of skating...for some reason I thought it referred to Don Juan' Reckless Daughter -- it mentioned how she did the makeup for the black guy she impersonated, inspired by a man who walked by her on the sidewalk one day who said something like, "You sho' do look good, sugar", or something like that. The article featured several of her photos, some of which were from when she and Jackson Browne toured together in the early 70's... It's been so long, but I traveled through Madison a few times in the 70's and so I thought it ironic that Joni had been there of all places... Sorry my facts are so oblique...I am fishing them from the confines of tired brain cells, lost in the murkiness of the ensuing holiday season...ho ho ho. Hope it helps. Love Kim Brown ......................................................... "You and I have brains, the others have fluff." (Winnie the Pooh) http://futurerealm.com - The HeartThread Resource Page http://worldcommunity.com - The World Community Network http://wtne-sales.com - Washington Times National Weekly National Sales Office http://musicviews.com Music Reviews by Kim Korman Brown ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:31:58 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Marian Unplugged - report Terry wrote: >Oooh Marian, I'm SO happy for you! Those who couldn't come or stay were the >ones who missed out. BooHoo on THEM. I think we should be given adequate notice for these fine performance venues, so we can muster some bargain airfares and travel to see you all. We would be there with recorders, cameras, Kleenex, and our finest voices/applause! Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:38:55 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) Inspiringly Susan wrote: >Marsha! McBabe! Why? Oh, why?! Can't you handle both yourself? ;~D Honey B, Delicate XY egos aside, I want to spread the wealth...maybe make separate dates and have an excuse to buy some new clothes. What would Joni do? Marsha, thinking being "back in circulation" ain't so bad after 20 years... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:55:59 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re[2]: Dilemmas in life (NJC) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) Author: "Marsha" at fdinet Honey B, Delicate XY egos aside, I want to spread the wealth...maybe make separate dates and have an excuse to buy some new clothes. What would Joni do? She'd go looking for a party, looking to raise Jesus up from the dead... Marsha, thinking being "back in circulation" ain't so bad after 20 years... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:28:46 -0600 From: "Leong, Dennis" Subject: Only for hard-core Joniphiles December 8, 5:00 a.m CST. The 1971 film "Celebration at Big Sur" will be shown on channel 80, HBOSIG, 90 minutes. If memory serves, Joni sings Gino Vanelli's "Get Together"(with CSNY) and Woodstock. Get your VCRs ready. Enjoy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:13:21 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: Hoping for a wonderful Christmas ,if anyone has any ideas or places or thoughts or people or phone numbers that I could use to track one of these lithographs down. I've put in calls and e-mails to Reprise Records, Wally, the keeper of JONIMITCHELL.COM, and a cataloge sales company named Vroom. Hey Loren & Welcome! There's also a catalog co. that sells autographed memorabilia called "Command Performance". Don't know if they have a website or not, but maybe it's worth a shot... I was thinking that if she were to be in concert somewhere soon, I could call the arena where she will be performing, and maybe get a hold of her folks there, but I sit here running out of ideas. She's done performing for a while - sorry! Bob M. in SC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:30:48 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: Dilemmas in life (NJC) Marsha wrote: > What would Joni do? Only Joni knows for sure but I think she's a bee charmer, ya know? ;~) > Marsha, thinking being "back in circulation" ain't so bad after 20 years... I've been free for years myself but I'm still not in circulation . I'm waiting for dashing prince Klein to capsize my ship ;~) Seriously...people keep telling me: "You've got all the numbers!" Yeah, but what's the game??? "...I never thought I'd come to this What's it all about?..."-Rice/Webber Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...I don't know why he moves me He's a man, he's just a man And I've had so many men before Subject: Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling Mish-mash of impressions For Paul and others, "I don't like to lie but I sure can get phony when I get scared...stormy, stormy when I get scared." Brilliant lyrics. To me WTRF was her first album with obviously middle aged sentiments. I wasn't middle aged but I dug it. I've had this mature part of me trapped inside wanting to get out for many years now. Joni just pointed it out. I think Joni was really saying "I'm so square but I don't care!" on WTRF. Nod, wink. Growing up and liking it. Differentiating herself from youth fixated pop. Not attempting to bridge the generation gap, but defeating it by being herself. I view her later work starting with NRH as the creation of the sacred space she was looking for. * * * * * * * * * * It's my nature not to criticize artists. I truly believe in art's right to exist and an artist's right to process in their own personal progression. I don't dis them. Joni makes this easy because she is so obviously on an inner quest for music and soul. I imagine myself putting my arms around artists when they are having hard times or the muse isn't flowing. I don't fault them for not "putting out." To me that denies the gift that music is. Capturing spirit for the ears. Helping others to feel what you feel. I find it fitting that Joni said it best herself, (re: a post I didn't save.) that you have to be in the right space to enjoy music sometimes. You have to be ready for it. It's not always the music that falls short, it's the level of receptivity within the person listening to it. Music can't make you sensitive to it. That's work you have to do for yourself. Joni has touched upon a suppleness of spirit that children have in her lyrics. ("Love" WTRF) I believe adults have this same capacity by continuing or reconnecting to the spontaneity of emotions. Laid back and getting it, Ellen P.S. I was born in 1966. But the sixties weren't lost on me nor are they dead in me. I'm holding on, on the inside. I'm going back to the garden. It's just a little harder than we all imagined. At 09:18 PM 11/30/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 11/28/98 11:00:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, >Harpua@revealed.net writes: > ><< Synchronicity again! My sister bought me WTRF a few weeks ago. Be Cool, > Moon At The Window, Ladies' Man, Love are all really great songs! > >> > >After the obvious "Chinese Cafe," my favorite song from WTRF is "Man to Man." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:31:43 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Hoping for a wonderful Christmas From: Claud.Loren.Carter@ccMail.Census.Gov Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:57:45 -0500 NEWS UPDATE!!!!!! John, The scanned images would be most appreciated. I'll put them on the home PC for Lucy to see as she types. NOW THE BIG STORY......Dateline Warner Brothers Customer service person (via Reprise Records I assume).....just called and said she listened to my voice mail plea and is gonna scare one of the lithographs up for FREE!!!!! I told her that I was more than willing to pay the cost, and that if the TTT lithograph was unavailable, any of Joni's prints would be great. She said to give her until the start of next week, and she'll know for sure. But she's gonna make it happen. Someone slap me, I wanna believe, I do, I do, I do so wanna believe. Lucy will be so surprised. Please let my pull this off. I'll let everyone know when I know. If it happens, some lady in California is going to be getting a little something from someone in Maryland for her Christmas stocking. Loren....(seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and clicking his heals 3 times over and over again) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:07:48 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Only for hard-core Joniphiles - -----Original Message----- From: Leong, Dennis To: joni@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 2:34 PM Subject: Only for hard-core Joniphiles >December 8, 5:00 a.m CST. The 1971 film "Celebration at Big Sur" will be >shown on channel 80, HBOSIG, 90 minutes. If memory serves, Joni sings Gino >Vanelli's "Get Together"(with CSNY) and Woodstock. Ah, Dennis, if only Gino Vannelli wrote it....but Jesse Colin Young penned this one. Marsha, hard-core Ginophile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:36:23 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Pay-per-view special on home video before Christmas? From CD-Now: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=160178420/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.h tml/ArtistID=FRN-MITCHELL*JONI/ddcn=MVD-R-4162 SALE VHS List $ 79.95 Add to Cart $58.49 Save to Wish List VHS Expected Release Date: December 01, 1998. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Japanese import. 90 min. JAPANESE IMPORTS R-4162 ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:44:22 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira Terry, John, et al: I'm almost *positive* that her Parker Fly is a solid body electric-the closeups of it on the PPV thing didn't show any acoustic pickups. Mark, awaiting the JMDL police (Whoever coined this term: God bless you!) :-) At 11:37 AM -0500 12/1/98, TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > It is?? I didn't know that! I was just at the music store, looking at the > Parker Fly out of curiousity and the guy there said Joni probably chose it > because it's feather light. Seeing her play it in concert, it sure didn't > look > like an acoustic. ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:04:38 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Dino, Gino & Jesse (NJC) Dennis and Marsha wrote: >>December 8, 5:00 a.m CST. The 1971 film "Celebration at Big Sur" will be >>shown on channel 80, HBOSIG, 90 minutes. If memory serves, Joni sings >Gino Vanelli's "Get Together"(with CSNY) and Woodstock. > >Ah, Dennis, if only Gino Vannelli wrote it....but Jesse Colin Young penned >this one. You're both warm but....the song was written by Chet Powers who went on to be known as Dino Valente in the group Quicksilver Messenger Service. Jesse Colin Young and the Youngbloods recorded the most well-known version of the song but I believe that Jefferson Airplane were the first to record it on their first album "Jefferson Airplane Takes Off". The Airplane and the members of Quicksilver were all good friends back in the early days of the San Francisco scene. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:24:27 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: Dino, Gino & Jesse (NJC) >You're both warm but....the song was written by Chet Powers who went on to >be known as Dino Valente in the group Quicksilver Messenger Service. OY Vey....I forgot! Yes this has been taught to us well, and my old musicalzheimer's is setting in... >Jesse Colin Young and the Youngbloods recorded the most well-known version of the >song but I believe that Jefferson Airplane were the first to record it on >their first album "Jefferson Airplane Takes Off". The Airplane and the >members of Quicksilver were all good friends back in the early days of the >San Francisco scene. Paul! Kakki beat you to the punch....and it feels soooo much better coming from her. HAHAHA! Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:45:45 -0800 From: Corry Hanna Subject: Re: Get it together No cigar on this one for anybody...Although "Get Together" was the Youngbloods' biggest hit, and Jesse Colin Young sang it, it was written by Dino Valenti (later of Quicksilver Messenger Service) under the pen name of (something) Powers...can't remember the first name and don't have the album. There is a bootleg disc somewhere of Joni doing this song. Randy Remote, hardcore nailphile Marsha wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Leong, Dennis > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 2:34 PM > Subject: Only for hard-core Joniphiles > > >December 8, 5:00 a.m CST. The 1971 film "Celebration at Big Sur" will be > >shown on channel 80, HBOSIG, 90 minutes. If memory serves, Joni sings > Gino > >Vanelli's "Get Together"(with CSNY) and Woodstock. > > Ah, Dennis, if only Gino Vannelli wrote it....but Jesse Colin Young penned > this one. > > Marsha, hard-core Ginophile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:07:45 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Thanks to you all Hello All, Thanks so much for the kind words, but I need no praise for my efforts. I am no hero (Thanks Terry) I am a humble servant and this is my calling to help people less fortunate then myself. I have worked with poor and sick children for many years and this is just an extension to that work. Thanks very much to Ashara for her very kind and generous support. I finally caught up with all the digests and am current with the latest. (by the way right-right). I have been playing Love Puts On A New Face pretty regularly now on guitar and I am thinking about doing it live for one of the benefits coming up (along with some other Joni chestnuts I have been working on). Best wishes to all during this holiday season of Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, Christmas. Love Michael NP-(in my head) Love Puts On A New Face ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:16:26 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Get it together - ---Corry Hanna wrote: > > No cigar on this one for anybody...Although "Get Together" was the Youngbloods' > biggest hit, and Jesse Colin Young sang it, it was written by Dino Valenti > (later of Quicksilver Messenger Service) under the pen name of (something) > Powers...can't remember the first name and don't have the album. There is a > bootleg disc somewhere of Joni doing this song. Randy Remote, > hardcore nailphile It's not on a bootleg - it's on Tape Tree #5, the PBS-TV show from LA on 11/30/69, on side 2. Brian === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:55:19 -0600 From: "Janis" Subject: NJC: Thoughts for the day Hello All! This was sent to me and I found many of these thoughts to be so correct. I am enjoying all the posts that come through the list! Take good care! Janis :-) >>> >I've learned that I like my teacher because she cries when we sing >>> >Silent Night".-Age 6 >>> > >>> >I've learned that you can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of >>> milk.-Age 7 >>> > >>> >I've learned that when I wave to people in the country, they stop what >>> >they are doing and wave back.-Age 9 >>> > >>> >I've learned that when I get my room the way I like it, Mom makes me >>> >clean it up.-Age 13 >>> > >>> >I've learned that if you want to cheer yourself up, you should try >>> >cheering someone else up.-Age 14 >>> > >>> >I've learned that although it's hard to admit it, I'm secretly glad >>> >my parents are strict with me.-Age 15 >>> > >>> >I've learned that silent company is often more healing than words of >>> >advice.-Age 24 >>> > >>> >I've learned that brushing my child's hair is one of life's >>> >pleasures.-Age 26 >>> > >>> >I've learned that wherever I go, the world's worst drivers >>> >have followed me there.-Age 29 >>> > >>> >I've learned that if someone says something unkind about me, I must >>> >live so that no one will believe it.-Age 39 >>> > >>> >I've learned that there are people who love you dearly but >>> >just don't know how to show it.-Age 41 >>> > >>> >I've learned that you can make some one's day by simply >>> >sending them a little card.-Age 44 >>> > >>> >I've learned that the greater a person's sense of guilt, the >>> >greater his need to cast blame on others.-Age 46 >>> > >>> >I've learned that child and grandparents are natural allies.-Age 47 >>> > >>> >I've learned that singing "Amazing Grace" can lift my spirits for >>> >hours.-Age 49 >>> > >>> >I've learned that motel mattresses are better on the side >>> >away from the phone.-Age 50 >>> > >>> >I've learned that you can tell a lot about a man by the way he handles >>> >these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas >>> >tree lights.-Age 51 >>> > >>> >I've learned that keeping a vegetable garden is worth a >>> >medicine cabinet full of pills.-Age 52 >>> > >>> >I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, >>> >you miss them terribly after they die.-Age 53 >>> > >>> >I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a >>> >life.-Age 58 >>> > >>> >I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance.-Age 62 >>> > >>> >I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt >>> >on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back.-Age 64 >>> > >>> >I've learned that if you pursue happiness, it will elude you. But if >>> >you focus on your family, the needs of others, your work, meeting new >>> >people, and doing the very best you can, happiness will find you. >>> >-Age 65 >>> > >>> >I've learned that whenever I decide to do something with kindness, I >>> >usually make the right decision.-Age 68 >>> > >>> >I've learned that everyone can use a prayer.-Age 72 >>> > >>> >I've learned that it pays to believe in miracles. And to tell the >>> >truth, I've seen several.-Age 73 >>> > >>> >I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one. >>> >-Age 82 >>> > >>> >I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone. >>> >People love human touch, holding hands, a warm hug, or just a friendly >>> >pat on the back.-Age 85 >>> > >>> >I've learned that I still have a lot to learn.-Age 92 >>> > >>> >I've learned that you should pass this on to someone you care about. >>> >Sometimes we need something to make the day a little brighter>> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:15:45 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Taming The Tiger Surpasses Hejira In a message dated 12/1/98 4:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Harpua@revealed.net writes: << 'm almost *positive* that her Parker Fly is a solid body electric-the closeups of it on the PPV thing didn't show any acoustic pickups. >> That's what I'm thinking, but I'm waiting for some of the VG8 owners to pitch in with their opinions. Terry ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #495 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?