From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #492 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, November 29 1998 Volume 03 : Number 492 The Joni Tour Pages: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni on Charlie Rose next week ["Kakki" ] Re: TTT....Pay per view ["Deb Messling" ] Misc. Weekend Rambling [RMuRocks@aol.com] poets (NJC) [Thomas Ross ] Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling [RMuRocks@aol.com] VideoTrees and how do i get them? ["Ryan Lantrip" ] Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling [TerryM2442@aol.com] Fw: VideoTrees and how do i get them? ["Gene Mock" ] "intelligence" article ["s. kelly" ] jmdl.com [John Melchert ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:20:14 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose next week Mark wrote: >Someone, I can't remember, posted the info about Joni on Charlie Rose >sometime in the first week of December-does anyone know which day it is? I >can't wait! A few weeks ago Wally Breese posted that Joni has cancelled her schedule until further notice, including the Charlie Rose show, the Storytellers taping and interviews. Wally related that she was exhausted after the tour and has retreated to her place in B.C. for some rest. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:36:13 +0000 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Re: TTT....Pay per view > TTT > is fast becoming one of my favorite cd's of Joni's...wasn't sure i liked > it and now i can't stop listening to it Me, too, Mike. I think all of us on the list have learned that you can't judge a Joni album on first listen, or even on the first five listens. Maybe the lyrics aren't her absolute best, but how can anyone not be drawn in by the melodies, and by that warm, warm voice? In yesterday's NY Times, in an article about music for mature people, Stephen Holden called TTT "hugely disappointing" (not explaining why) but even he praised her voice as "lived in." Finally got the Gershwin CD. Yes, Joni's contribution is awesome, and yes, the rest of the album is, too. I love cats. They give the home a heartbeat. -- Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:21:37 EST From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Misc. Weekend Rambling 1. Just got a new CD copy (I had only the album previously) of WTRF - reminded me of the time when I first bought it. I think my favorite track may be "You Dream Flat Tires" - I love the rhythm of it, and think Lionel Ritchie's voice works just fine. Most impressive is the bass track. I had just last Sunday played "Love" in my Sunday School class as the finale to our Study of that particular chapter of Paul's - it helped the 11-12th graders to understand what Paul was saying, I think - especially the part where Joni sings "Love sees like a child sees". Of course, she then segues into the section of "when I was a child, I spoke as a child, etc" and says "I put away childish things", which is a dual meaning thing as she's mourning the fact that she can never return to the innocent child-like view of love again. This whole record, called by many her "Happiest" record, has so many bittersweet moments, more on that later. 2. I also picked up "Gershwin's World" by Herbie Hancock - thanks to all those who helped push me off the fence to snag this beauty - if you haven't got it yet, it's quite a treat and is indeed a teaser for Joni's future "Standards" project. 3. Someone wrote about the latest Springsteen box set - I looked at it but decided to ask for it for Christmas - rats! now I've gotta wait a month to get it, and will probably end up buying it myself anyway...Springsteen says in the new RS "I've created a body of work that expresses fundamentally who I am. And I am interested in presenting what I do to anybody who's interested. That's the only way I know how to do it. The way I approach that now any different than when I started, when I didn't particularly feel that I fit into the mid- seventies music business. Today I have less access to the mainstream. I'm not going to be on MTV, and there are probably a lot of radio stations I can't get on. So I go out and perform when I can. None of that alters anything I do at this point - that would be foolish. Hey, you have faith in what you do. And then you do it." Sounds familiar, huh? I suppose that's a trademark of my favorite artists (Joni, Bruce, Tom Waits, Elvis C.) that dedication to their integrity. All for now - leaves are calling. Bob M. in SC NP: Emmylou "Black Hawk" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:47:26 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Ross Subject: poets (NJC) Yes Fred Great with the chance meeting of Creeley. Gary Snyder has a crossreference with the Indian musician community: his wife is a student of the great bharatanatyam dancer Balasaraswati, whose brother is married to my music-partner Jody Cormack. .. ! Speaking of which: I'm still trying to get in touch with W S Merwin, since I keep appropriating his stuff into songs. Anybody know a way to reach him? . .. this old branch from which years and faces go on falling. . . (WSM, from 'Season', in *Vixen*) Tom R tame this! ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`). (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il).-'' (li).' ((!.-' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:58:07 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling Synchronicity again! My sister bought me WTRF a few weeks ago. Be Cool, Moon At The Window, Ladies' Man, Love are all really great songs! I tried looking up Corinthians II:13 and it was just some closing statement. Was I looking in the wrong place? At 10:21 AM -0500 11/28/98, RMuRocks@aol.com wrote: > 1. Just got a new CD copy (I had only the album previously) of WTRF - > reminded > me of the time when I first bought it. I think my favorite track may be "You > Dream Flat Tires" - I love the rhythm of it, and think Lionel Ritchie's voice > works just fine. Most impressive is the bass track. I had just last Sunday > played "Love" in my Sunday School class as the finale to our Study of that > particular chapter of Paul's - it helped the 11-12th graders to understand > what Paul was saying, I think - especially the part where Joni sings "Love > sees like a child sees". Of course, she then segues into the section of "when > I was a child, I spoke as a child, etc" and says "I put away childish > things", > which is a dual meaning thing as she's mourning the fact that she can never > return to the innocent child-like view of love again. This whole record, > called by many her "Happiest" record, has so many bittersweet moments, > more on > that later. ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:50:18 EST From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling Mark, The scripture being set to music here is I Corinthians, Chapter 13, called by many "The Love Chapter". WTRF has a bad reference when it says Corinthians II:13. I sometimes wonder if Paul had someone else write this piece or picked it up from somewhere else because it doesn't seem to fit with a lot of his other writings IMO. Bob M. in SC PS: I got my photos from Pearl today in the mail of me & Joni. They are great! And there it is...Joni's hand on mine!! Captured forever in film!! :~D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:01:17 CST From: "Ryan Lantrip" Subject: VideoTrees and how do i get them? Ok, not real sure about the etiquette in doing this, but whatever. I'm looking for 2 "VideoTrees." They are listed at the bottom of the http://jmdl.com/tape/ page, listed as VideoTree #1 & VideoTree #2 There aren't any "branches" list for either of them. If anyone can help me out, I'll love you forever. Thanks, RL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:15:27 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Misc. Weekend Rambling In a message dated 11/28/98 3:54:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, RMuRocks@aol.com writes: << I got my photos from Pearl today in the mail of me & Joni. They are great! And there it is...Joni's hand on mine!! Captured forever in film!! :~D >> Wow! Can you scan it and share? The photo Robbert took of Joni and I are in the Detroit Concert section- there's a link right after my report, if anyone wants to see it. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:00:10 -0800 From: "Gene Mock" Subject: Fw: VideoTrees and how do i get them? Ditto for me too, what do I have to do to be a participant? Will someone e-mail me their answer? Thanks Gene - -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Lantrip To: joni@smoe.org Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 1:05 PM Subject: VideoTrees and how do i get them? >Ok, not real sure about the etiquette in doing this, but whatever. > >I'm looking for 2 "VideoTrees." They are listed at the bottom of the >http://jmdl.com/tape/ page, listed as VideoTree #1 & VideoTree #2 > >There aren't any "branches" list for either of them. > >If anyone can help me out, I'll love you forever. > >Thanks, >RL > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:03:34 PST From: "s. kelly" Subject: "intelligence" article hi all, i have not seen reference to this magazine article anywhere on the discussion list or on the jmdl webpage. it is so apropos for our genius, joni, to be recognized for this! scientific american presents: exploring intelligence winter 1998 volume 9 number 4 she is listed on page 22, which is entitled "A Sampling Of Intelligences"; she is portrayed as the primary example of an individual with "musical intelligence" (topping the list with a photo!). sandra eight_thirteen@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:44:13 From: John Melchert Subject: jmdl.com I took the trouble to read the journalist reviews re TTT in 1998 and posted by jmdl.com and I am renewed: Only one was negative; the rest were what we all believe...great! How to reach these people for Joni? The good need recognition. Maybe they will write something else better, longer, more crediting as long as we are interested. Get her some more money, but more important yet, the interest to put out another recording. The woman is a god, that we know. But for people to get me to finally listen to "No Apologies" and "Harlem in Havana", through their words, well that is journalism. Thank you JMDL.COM...thank you Wally...you are all the trendsetters. I'm happy to be on the sidelines, but anxious to promote the woman who filters all the facets of my life. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #492 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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