From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #490 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, November 27 1998 Volume 03 : Number 490 The Joni Tour Pages: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Happy Thanksgiving (VLJC) [Robert Holliston ] Joni feature on UK TV - Tonight! (Thursday) [Howard Wright ] Re: Joni feature on UK TV - Tonight! (Thursday) [luvart@snet.net] joni beginner ["Ryan Lantrip" ] Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) [Mark Domyancich ] Re: New York Daily News review (excerpt) [Bounced Message ] Re: Innocence Mission Trivia Question [Bounced Message ] hitching (NJC) [Thomas Ross ] Re: joni beginner [luvart@snet.net] hidden tracks need help [litrow@info2000.net] Re: hitching (NJC) ["Marsha" ] Re: Happy Turkey Day (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) ["Kakki" ] 1998 NAS Awards ["Kakki" ] Re: joni beginner [Joseph Palis ] Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) [TerryM2442@aol.com] NJC - the rock [Elaine Bean ] Re: Happy Turkey Day (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 01:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Holliston Subject: Happy Thanksgiving (VLJC) Wishing my American friends a very happy Thanksgiving, and saying thanks myself to all of you for the wonderful experience of being on this list. I was in Starbuck's today, and they were playing Come In From The Cold. Finally!! Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:31:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Howard Wright Subject: Joni feature on UK TV - Tonight! (Thursday) I just saw this yesterday in the paper. Good news: there is a one hour feature on Joni tonight (Thurs. 26th) on UK TV. Bad news: it's on satellite. Do any UK JMDLers have satellite TV? Hoping that someone does, or someone knows someone else that does :-), here are the details: Date: Thursday 26th Nov. Channel: UK Arena (satellite) Program: "Later, Joni Mitchell" Time: 8:25pm - 9:30 Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:52:40 EST From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: "Recipe" Book Marian, First off, I want to thank you for your work on the book; although I didn't contribute anything - don't be cross at me though, had I contributed, it would've been one of the following: 1. Pour cereal into bowl. Pour milk in bowl. eat. 2. Put whatever's in that tupperware in microwave. Turn on for 2 minutes. eat. 3. Go to nice restaurant. Look at menu. order. eat. Anyway, I had to laugh when I read your working title, as it's obviously all about sex. (Sittin' on my "Groceries", show you my best "Recipes") Hey, maybe instead of a cookbook, we should all contribute our favorite sexual tricks!! After all, in our bios, almost everyone mentioned "sex" as a favorite hobby... "Love Secrets of the JMDL" ;-D I'm joking, you guys - have a great Holiday! Bob M. in SC NP: Aretha Franklin, "Angel" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:23:16 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Happy Turkey Day (NJC) on Wed Nov. 25th Marilune@aol.com wrote ... > >here's where school comes in handy ... did ya'll know that Thanksgiving >is an invention of the 19th century? all that squanto, indians + pilgrims >stuff is just a story. and plymouth rock was moved to plymouth in the >19th >century too. > >mariana > i assume this is meant to be humorous. a joke, right? let's hope this *isn't* indicative of the History curriculum at the school you attend. - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:32:40 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) Thought I'd pass along this story for our holiday enjoyment. MEETING JONI MITCHELL - by Rick Scott Singer-songwriter Rick Scott is one of Canada’s best known dulcimer players. He’s developed his own unique style of playing dulcimer and has released 10 albums. Rick performs concerts for all ages around the world. “In 1971, I was hitchhiking with my wife Sue, my friend JR Stone and my dog Mousse up the Sechelt (Sunshine) Coast of British Columbia. It was tough for three hippies with a dog to catch a ride, but after about half an hour a woman driving a beat up Ford Pinto pulled over. Big and shaggy, Mousse immediately climbed into the front seat and laid his head down in the driver’s lap. JR slid in next to him, Sue and I got in the back and we headed off down the road. The woman was patting Mousse’s head and complimenting us on what a nice dog he was. She asked us how far we were going... about 30 kilometres to Pender Harbour. Between her question and our ability to answer, there was a group realization that the driver was Joni Mitchell. Each of us took turns trying to articulate the name of our destination, but all that came out was stammering. When we finally managed to tell her, she said she could take us almost all the way but she had to stop off at Lord Jim’s Lodge to pick up a friend. She said they might go to the pub and if we were still hitchhiking when they came out they would give us a ride the rest of the way. I think we just sat there staring at Joni Mitchell stroking Mousse’s head. I was fantasizing that in the next life I might be lucky enough to come back as a dog. When we got to the turnoff she pulled over and as we were getting out she noticed my instrument case and asked what it was. When I told her it was a dulcimer she said, “Way out, can I see it?” The next thing I knew she was examining my dulcimer with great interest. JR Stone is a soft spoken North Carolina mountain man of few words, so I volunteered the information that he had built my instrument. She beamed at him and examined the dulcimer even more closely. After a few minutes she asked if he would build her one. With a great deal of difficulty he finally managed to answer. “Sure.” As Joni left us, she renewed her offer to take us further later and asked JR where she could find him. We told her where we would be for the weekend. We couldn’t believe what had happened and didn’t think we’d ever see her again. Nonetheless, we stopped hitchhiking and just stood by the road. An hour later she came back down the road with her friend in the passenger seat and stopped to pick us up. Paying no mind to the passenger, Mousse jumped onto his lap and settled back down with his head on Joni. We all squeezed in the back and she introduced us to Graham (Nash). She drove us to Pender Harbour and the next day came to visit to discuss dulcimer specifications with JR. I was amazed when she took up my dulcimer, tuned all the strings to the same note and proceeded to play, “A Case Of You” from her “Blue” album. It seems ‘less is more’ is a very dulcimer thing. Over the next three weeks JR built her an exquisite mountain dulcimer. But it took him another week to deliver it because he was so shy. She was so delighted she paid him a hundred dollars more than his original quote, which I think was $300. Over 20 years later, in 1996, I was reading a Rolling Stone article about Joni and in the accompanying photograph there she was with JR’s dulcimer hanging on the wall behind her. I must admit I felt a twinge of jealousy that JR got in Rolling Stone before I did. JR Stone still lives and builds amazing instruments in Boone, North Carolina. He has built me several four string dulcimers and a 6 string and bass dulcimer as well. Happy Holidays, Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:41:12 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Joni feature on UK TV - Tonight! (Thursday) I do hope one of our JMDLers will get to tape this. Sounds like a goodie! > >I just saw this yesterday in the paper. Good news: there is a one hour >feature on Joni tonight (Thurs. 26th) on UK TV. Bad news: it's on >satellite. Do any UK JMDLers have satellite TV? Hoping that someone does, >or someone knows someone else that does :-), here are the details: > >Date: Thursday 26th Nov. >Channel: UK Arena (satellite) >Program: "Later, Joni Mitchell" >Time: 8:25pm - 9:30 > >Howard > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:09:25 CST From: "Ryan Lantrip" Subject: joni beginner Hi, I'm a beginning Joni fan. I bought "Taming the Tiger" when I got a chance to listen to it at a CD store listening booth, enjoyed the album, and then got the "Hits" album and I was totally hooked on it. I wonder if anyone can tell me what some of their favorite album(s) are and why. I'd like to know what some of her best albums are. Thanks bunches, RL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:40:48 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) What a great story, Leslie! Thanks for posting it! My favorite part: > a woman driving a beat up Ford Pinto pulled over. Best, ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:20:04 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Face Lift t-shirt From: Bmcd@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:51:13 EST In a message dated 98-11-17 10:14:30 EST, you write: << I've had the same types of reaction to my Face Lift t-shirt. >> Is this an all black t-shirt with the line on the back? I picked one up at the Pond for my husband. Karen Mc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:19:37 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: New York Daily News review (excerpt) From: Bmcd@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:56:39 EST In a message dated 98-11-03 07:46:55 EST, you write: << Like any artist committed to constant evolution, Mitchell has cast her earlier work in a new light. Her backup band, corralling drums, bass, pedal steel and trumpet, used classic songs as fresh canvases, comprised of small, wet strokes. In Mitchell's skewering of striving materialists, "Harry's House," the trumpet of Chris Botti sketched a dark sky, while Larry Klein's bass rumbled out the shape of a dangerous landscape. Mitchell's voice has also changed. It's earthier, with more burgundy tones, but still flexible enough to manage the wild terrain of three songs from her epic "Hejira." Mitchell added more upbeat material than usual, including "Free Man in Paris" and "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter," which the band whipped into a major rave-up. She bookended the 15-song set with two 1970 hits, "Big Yellow Taxi" and "Woodstock," the latter turned inside out to become a song of botched opportunities. Extending her interest in jazz, Mitchell gave a take on Billie Holiday's "Comes Love," bringing out its full shrugging wit. Really, the woman should get out more often. Thanks to Deb Messling for sending this excerpt from the New York Daily news. One thought I have is that this reviewer makes a good argument for a new live album release! Karen Mc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:53:24 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Innocence Mission Trivia Question From: Kathy Sinclair Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:50:00 -0800 Don Rowe wrote: >Just taking in the Larry Klein produced Innocence Mission CD -- >"Umbrella". >But what interests me >more than this is ... did she just drop in on Larry in the studio? Did >she and Larry go to one of the shows? You are a true five-star trivia >general if you can answer this one. In fact, I'll be impressed if more >than one or two folks have ever even heard of the Innocence Mission ... And Mark Klempner wrote: >When the IM played in Los >Angeles at the time of their first album, both Joni and Larry attended, >and went backstage afterwards. BTW, Joni also attended a Shawn Colvin >show around that same time at a small club. Anyway, there was later a >story about IM in, I think, the LA Weekly, and Karen Perris >mentioned how much Joni's music has meant to her, and how excited and >awed she was to meet her, and also how much it had meant to her that Joni >had taken an interest. Now I write: Check the credits to "Cherokee Louise" on Night Ride Home -- Karin Peris sings backup! As a note of interest, she's also on Natalie Merchant's latest album, Ophelia. Anyone know what's happening with Innocence Mission these days -- any albums coming up? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:55:18 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Ross Subject: hitching (NJC) Yes in fact I have great sympathy for hitchers having traversed myself that way for 3 years in Seattle. And I'll still pick them up. On the other hand: A girlfriend and I were hitching near Laramie, WY once and nobody picked us up all day. Finally a woman in a pickup truck came by and took us to her house for overnight. She explained that nobody around there trusted hitchers because some folks that had picked one up had disappeared. Later the sheriff picked up a drifter who was discovered to have the missing persons' THUMBS in his pocket! Ook! one of the reasons, I guess, that Wyoming is the only state to be declining in population. tr ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`). (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il).-'' (li).' ((!.-' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:18:49 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: joni beginner At 12:09 PM 11/26/98 CST, you wrote: > >I wonder if anyone can tell me what some of their favorite album(s) are >and why. I'd like to know what some of her best albums are. > Ryan, Welcome Aboard! This is a loaded question here in JMDL land! I started off with For The Roses (FTR) when I was a junior in high school. After this blew me away I purchased Blue, Ladies of the Canyon, Clouds and Joni Mitchell - Song to a Seagull. It's been Joni, Joni, Joni ever since! You might want to start with Court & Spark (C&S) and/or the Hissing of Summer Lawns (HOSL). I threw in the abbrev. .... you better get used to seeing them ;-) Heather ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:59:50 -0800 From: litrow@info2000.net Subject: hidden tracks need help Ok now I'm getting a little pissy for thanksgiving. We got a new CD, not Joni's but i haven't even started on that. Calm. How do you find the damn hidden tracks on these things. It says "hint .. try negative tracks" Ok i have tried it on dvd, cdrom, every damn cd player in the house and i find nothing. Does anybody have a hint. Oh and by the way. I hope your all having the thanksgiving you wish to have. Enjoy, celebrate, and have fun gail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:18:10 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: hitching (NJC) - -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Ross To: joni@smoe.org Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 1:57 PM Subject: hitching (NJC) >A girlfriend and I were hitching near Laramie, WY once and nobody picked >us up all day. Finally a woman in a pickup truck came by and took us to >her house for overnight. She explained that nobody around there trusted >hitchers because some folks that had picked one up had disappeared. Later >the sheriff picked up a drifter who was discovered to have the missing >persons' THUMBS in his pocket! Gives a new meaning to "thumbing a ride".... Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:35:40 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Happy Turkey Day (NJC) Mariana wrote: >>here's where school comes in handy ... did ya'll know that Thanksgiving >>is an invention of the 19th century? all that squanto, indians + pilgrims >>stuff is just a story. and plymouth rock was moved to plymouth in the >>19th century too. and simon wrote: >i assume this is meant to be humorous. a joke, right? > >let's hope this *isn't* indicative of the History curriculum at the >school you attend. It sounds like the teacher took a kernel of truth and turned it into a bit of "revisionist history." According to the esteemed authorities at the Butterball Turkey website, there indeed was a first Thanksgiving celebration in 1621, attended by Pilgrims and Indians and complete with a full spread of the fare of the day. However, Thanksgiving was not proclaimed a national holiday until 1863 when President Lincoln officially set aside the last Thrusday in November as a day of "thanksgiving, praise and prayer." Check out butterball.com for a Real Audio clip of a gobbling turkey! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:50:13 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) Leslie wrote: >When we finally managed to tell her, >she said she could take us almost all the way but she had to stop off at >Lord Jim’s Lodge to pick up a friend. She said they might go to the pub >and if we were still hitchhiking when they came out they would give us a >ride the rest of the way At this point I had visions of Joni picking up the woman with orange hair/black roots and her husband Jack who liked to "go, go, go". What a great story! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:26:46 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: 1998 NAS Awards On December 2nd, the National Academy of Songwriters will present its 1998 Lifetime Achievement Awards to Brian Wilson, Johnny Cash and Jeff Barry. Some past recipients of this award include our friends Joni (1996), Crosby, Stills & Nash (1994) and Jimmy Webb (1993). The awards gala will be held at the Regent Beverly Wilshire hotel in Beverly Hills. For more information call (323) 463-7178. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:20:12 +0800 (CST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: joni beginner On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Ryan Lantrip wrote: > and why. I'd like to know what some of her best albums are. > I say that Joni's HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS is my favorite because I like the images they created and the jazz inflections, including her rendition of "Centerpiece". Other fave albums from other artists: Andrea Marcovicci - Sings Movies Holly Cole - Don't Smoke in Bed Ute Lemper - Berlin Cabaret Songs Miles Davis - Kind of Blue Philip Glass - Low Symphony Ella Fitzgerald - Clap Hands Here Comes Charley Michael Franks - Dragonfly Summer Michael Feinstein - Forever Janis Siegel - Short Stories / Slow Hot Wind Everything But The Girl - Idlewild Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:12:58 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) In a message dated 11/26/98 12:29:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, stevem@cruzio.com writes: << I was amazed when she took up my dulcimer, tuned all the strings to the same note and proceeded to play, “A Case Of You” from her “Blue” album. >> This is a great story; thanks for sharing. I have one question that maybe our dulcimer players can answer for me. Does Joni really tune the strings all to the same note for Case? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:27:16 -0500 From: Elaine Bean Subject: NJC - the rock Oops! >Now they just leave it down there on the shore to let the ocean tides >do their work on it. No, the last time I saw the "Rock" in Plymouth (maybe 2 summers ago), it was actually protected in a pit about 10 feet below the ground, not too close to the sea, but not that far from it, but it is protected from the ocean. I was told it was placed in a protective cage, out of reach, because tourists kept chipping off parts of the rock for souvenirs, and it was becoming very small. I hadn't heard about the parade part, but that is probably true too. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:02:28 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Turkey Day (NJC) In a message dated 11/26/98 5:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << According to the esteemed authorities at the Butterball Turkey website, there indeed was a first Thanksgiving celebration in 1621, attended by Pilgrims and Indians and complete with a full spread of the fare of the day. However, Thanksgiving was not proclaimed a national holiday until 1863 when President Lincoln officially set aside the last Thursday in November as a day of "thanksgiving, praise and prayer." >> By which time the Union had something to be thankful for, having turned the tide of the war that summer. Paul I ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #490 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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