From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #483 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, November 20 1998 Volume 03 : Number 483 The Joni Tour Pages: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: T-Shirt Sayings [FredNow@aol.com] joni covers [Joseph Palis ] Joni T-shirt sayings [Howard Wright ] Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) ["philip" ] Magdalene Launderies - the movie ["philip" ] Tshirts ["Meghan C. Cauzillo" ] Re: T-Shirt Sayings ["John M. Lind" ] Re: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog ["Don Rowe" ] Re: joni covers ["Marsha" ] Re: joni covers ["Don Rowe" ] Re: Janet Planet NJC [Dreamzvill@aol.com] Rush list? (NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com] Re: Rush list? (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Rush list? (NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com] dylan's guitarist ["Berger, Everett (NJAOST)" ] t-shirt sayings/ joni's cats [Mary Becker ] Re: joni covers ["philip" ] dylan's guitarist and T-Shirts [Diana Duncan ] Re: Magdalene Launderies - the movie [Diana Duncan ] Fwd: Magdalene Launderies - the movie [Wolfebite@aol.com] WHY I ASKED ABOUT JONI'S SMOKING... [BMFD78C@prodigy.com (MRS MARILYN A B] EYE COLOR? [BMFD78C@prodigy.com (MRS MARILYN A BILLONE)] Fwd: Smokin' songs [MHart16164@aol.com] Joni T-Shirt sayings [michaelb@coolgold.com.au (Michael)] Re: Tshirts [Marian Rulewski ] Re: T-Shirt Sayings [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: Rush list? (NJC) [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: T-Shirt Sayings [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: joni covers [RickieLee1@aol.com] RE: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog ["wallykai" ] Re: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog [Mark Domyancich ] Re: JM notes [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Rush list? (NJC) [Susan Chaloner ] another joni fan [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: dylan's guitarist [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: joni covers [IVPAUL42@aol.com] NJC: Elliott Smith tattoo story [Rachel Kramer Bussel ] RE: another joni fan [Brett Code ] No regrets Coyote (New York.) [pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:42:00 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: T-Shirt Sayings "Some turn to Jesus, some turn to heroin." - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:57:05 +0800 (CST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: joni covers Being quite recently re-connected to the List, I want to know from fellow Listees who and what version of Joni songs they loved the most. I certainly consider the following as top-class: Janis Siegel (Short Stories) - River Dianne Reeves (Quiet After The Storm) - Both Sides Now Tuck and Patti (Learning How to Fly) - Woodstock Cassandra Wilson (Blue Light Till Dawn) - Black Crow Maire Brennan - Big Yellow Taxi Joseph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:21:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Howard Wright Subject: Joni T-shirt sayings On a slightly pessimistic note, how about: Just when you're thinking you've finally got it made Bad news comes knocking at your garden gate Howard W. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:43:39 -0000 From: "philip" Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) Kakki wrote : >Didn't know about the big dog, though, and in my more >naive days thought that was really his castle, too! The building behind him on Veedon Fleece is (or was at the time) a hotel in Howth, north of Dublin. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:17:05 -0000 From: "philip" Subject: Magdalene Launderies - the movie I heard a brief part of a radio interview with the scottish actor Peter Mullan which mentioned that his next project is a film about the Magdalene Launderies. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:34:33 -0500 From: "Meghan C. Cauzillo" Subject: Tshirts How about "Something's lost but something's gained in living every day" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:04:13 -0500 From: "John M. Lind" Subject: Re: T-Shirt Sayings OK, how about the doves from DJRD(like the embroiderd shirts, which I would love to get if they came in 2x nudge nudge, wink wink) with: "In my dweems we fly" on a two-tone(tie died from top to bottom maybe?) shirt, Blue and Paprika? John~ NP "Black Moon" ELP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:20:34 PST From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog Eric writes ... In the >music chapter there was a section on songs and drugs... in other words, >songs to listen to when doing different drugs. Here are a few samples, >including the Joni ones that were mentioned: > > Drug Song/Album > > $20 oz./pot Greatful Dead, "Truckin'" > Valium Carpenters, "Rainy Days and Mondays" > Homegrown Joni Mitchell, Court & Spark > Colombian Joni Mitchell, Hissing of Summer Lawns > Well, at the risk of getting booted off the jmdl, may the ghost of the Evil Dead Don suggest -- 1. Song to a Seagull -- 12-year old single malt scotch 2. Clouds -- red sensamillla 3. For The Roses -- Maui Wowie 4. Court & Spark -- Opiated Black Hash 5. The Hissing of Summer Lawns -- methaqualone 6. Hejira -- 'shrooms 7. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter -- mescaline, or peyote if you can get it! ;-) 8. Mingus -- purple micro-dot 9. Wild Things Run Fast -- Finish the red sensamilla 10. Dog Eat Dog -- Cocaine (ever so '80s) 11. CMIARS -- Extasy (again, that ever-so-'80s designer drug) 12. Night Ride Home -- Thai Stick w/Dom Perignon 13. Turbulent Indigo -- you ah, better stay clean & sober for this one 14. Taming the Tiger -- Percodan and last but not least ... 15. Live Joni Show -- Second hand Dylan fan smoke! DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke!! I am in no way advocating the abuse of preseciption medication, alchohol or any other controlled substance. Please allow me to apologize in advance if this offends anyone -- it was not my intention. Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:43:32 -0500 From: "Marsha" Subject: Re: joni covers - -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Palis To: joni@smoe.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 3:49 AM Subject: joni covers >Being quite recently re-connected to the List, I want to know from fellow >Listees who and what version of Joni songs they loved the most. Muzak's version of "Empty, Try Another"... but seriously folks, I just heard Billy Squier's new release of "River" on his Happy Blue CD, (thanks to Sarah the DJ) and on the liner notes he says: "I thought it would be interesting to approach this situation from the other side, while offering up the odd personal insight. Why? Who wouldn't want to get closer to Joni?" Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:50:51 PST From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: joni covers I know, I know -- but I still have to vote for: Judy Collins -- Chelsea Morning Don Rowe (who still hasn't been able to convince his mother that Joni wrote this song, not Judy) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:55:59 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Re: Janet Planet NJC Kakki- Thank you for the thoughts on the Janet P. article. I would love to have read it (maybe there's an archive address for the Times?). Van Morrison was the first person I had seen in a REAL CONCERT -(Santa Monica Civic, Feb. '71, w/John Hammond opening) I was 13 and it was a life-changer! Re: Van's moodiness, etc....is it just my imagination, or does it just seem to be part of that Irish mentality. The poetic anguish, the heaven-and-hell, the romance and the pain. I can relate to Janet - I'm married to someone very much like that! I read some very interesting things in a book called "Seven Weeks To Sobriety" - explaining that it the tendency to be an alcoholic or have that type of personality is very much influenced by our genes. Certain nations, supposedly, have built up more of an immunity to alcohol than others, as it has been a part of their culture much longer. I'd have to obtain the book again to get the numbers down, but it really seemed to jibe. Again, Kakki, just want to say I really enjoy your posts! Susan C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:06:44 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Rush list? (NJC) Good morning! I have an 18-year-old son who is very into Rush. Anyone know if there is a Rush mailing list he could join? Susan C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:44:06 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Rush list? (NJC) In a message dated 11/19/98 11:12:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dreamzvill@aol.com writes: << Good morning! I have an 18-year-old son who is very into Rush. Anyone know if there is a Rush mailing list he could join? Susan C.>> Tom Rush? Glendon Rusch (KC Royals pitcher)? Rush Limbaugh? I don't know about Tom, but I'm sure there is a mailing list for the loud- mouthed latter. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:50:35 EST From: Dreamzvill@aol.com Subject: Re: Rush list? (NJC) Hi Paul.... (McCartney? Peter, Paul, & Mary?)... Unfortunately, that is where the search engines usually take a person, when they put in "Rush". Even when one types in "Rush + rock + music + band + Canadian". :) Love, Susan C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:04:11 -0500 From: "Berger, Everett (NJAOST)" Subject: dylan's guitarist Does anyone know who is the guy playing guitar with dylan on the tour? I thought he was fabulous... Whadda ya all think? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:58:27 -0500 From: Mary Becker Subject: t-shirt sayings/ joni's cats Hi everyone, I'm new to the JMDL (digest) and have really enjoyed lurking for a couple weeks. The t-shirt saying thread has been fun, I have a suggestion I don't think I've seen: front: input-output- back: electricity I too was really impressed by Joni's paintings on TTT and especially because they feature her cats! I've read on Wally's site, or maybe in JMDL articles about the inspiration for "Man from Mars", and that the cat on the cover is "El Cafe", but does anyone know the other cats names, or any stories? The one on the cd looks like an abyssinian. Sorry if this has been discussed before I came on board. I'm really excited about the possibility that we "unlucky ones" may have a chance to get t-shirts or even lithographs via JMHP. I've always loved Joni's artwork as much as her music, and have loved that the last 2 cds have included so many paintings. Anyone who saw lithographs for sale at the concerts remember what they cost? And what is this about being left or right handed? Sorry, I just keep thinking of questions. Only one of my friends is a fan of JM, and we've lost touch, so finding JMDL has been great for me--I'm not so isolated anymore! Mary B (a lefty) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:10:55 -0000 From: "philip" Subject: Re: joni covers Joseph mentioned : >Maire Brennan - Big Yellow Taxi Interesting choice and produced by The Blue Nile to boot. The best cover of a Joni Mitchell song (imho) remains Woodstock by Mathews Southern Comfort from 1970. A beautiful arrangement with sun kissed harmonies and lovely pedal steel by Gordon Huntley. It went to number one in summer 1970 (interesting concept that - a good song at number one in the charts). Bubbling under : I Don't know where I Stand - Fairport Convention Same Situation - Clive Gregson and Christine Collister Night In The City - Bridget St John Worst : Both Sides Now - the Johnstons Even Worse: Big Yellow Taxi - Ami Grant (is that her name ? it was on the radio this morning anyway.) Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:27:49 -0600 From: Diana Duncan Subject: dylan's guitarist and T-Shirts Berger, Everett (NJAOST) wrote: >Does anyone know who is the guy playing guitar with dylan on the tour? >I thought he was fabulous... >Whadda ya all think? Fabulous in musical talent or fabulous in great to look at? I vote for the second one. He's a doll. I think his name was mentioned on list a couple of weeks ago but I forget. It's hard for me to tell musical talent when it was all so loud.. kind of chaotic too. But that's only MHO. I love all the tee-shirt ideas. You used to be able to buy letters to iron on tee-shirts so I guess we could make our own individual ones. The Powers that Be wouldn't sue for one tee-shirt. I want to welcome all our new members. I'm not very prolific but I read most posts. I know how it is to not have anyone to speak Joni-ese with! It's awful to know fabulous literary works in a language that no one around you can understand. That is what it was like for me until I found this list. There's so much depth to Joni's lyrics and music. Knowing it yourself is so unfulfilling as compared to discussing it with someone else. So enjoy! Diana NP Silence..it can be soothing after a morning with 12 and 13 year olds. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:29:37 -0600 From: Diana Duncan Subject: Re: Magdalene Launderies - the movie philip wrote: >I heard a brief part of a radio interview with the scottish actor >Peter Mullan which mentioned that his next project is a film >about the Magdalene Launderies. Wonder if they'll use the song? I'd like to hear more about this. Anyone else know who's making this film? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:25:38 EST From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Magdalene Launderies - the movie This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_911507139_boundary Content-ID: <0_911507139@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-11-19 14:32:20 EST, dduncan@ipa.net writes: << philip wrote: >I heard a brief part of a radio interview with the scottish actor >Peter Mullan which mentioned that his next project is a film >about the Magdalene Launderies. Wonder if they'll use the song? I'd like to hear more about this. Anyone else know who's making this film? >> hopefully NOT Russ Meyer..... doug (ducking for cover) - --part0_911507139_boundary Content-ID: <0_911507139@inet_out.mail.ipa.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (rly-ya01.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.193]) by air-ya04.mx.aol.com (v51.29) with SMTP; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:32:19 1900 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA12902; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA23365; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id OAA07645; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:27:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:27:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id OAA07602 for joni-outgoing; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns3.ipa.net (ns3.ipa.net [205.218.170.197]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id OAA07598 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (pool-7.roge.ipa.net [206.153.204.7]) by ns3.ipa.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA02108 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:27:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981119132937.006a8c48@pop.ipa.net> X-Sender: dduncan@pop.ipa.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:29:37 -0600 To: joni@smoe.org From: Diana Duncan Subject: Re: Magdalene Launderies - the movie In-Reply-To: <01be13ae$23c06080$LocalHost@secret.tinet.ie> Sender: owner-joni@smoe.org Reply-To: Diana Duncan Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit philip wrote: >I heard a brief part of a radio interview with the scottish actor >Peter Mullan which mentioned that his next project is a film >about the Magdalene Launderies. Wonder if they'll use the song? I'd like to hear more about this. Anyone else know who's making this film? - --part0_911507139_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:06:12, -0500 From: BMFD78C@prodigy.com (MRS MARILYN A BILLONE) Subject: WHY I ASKED ABOUT JONI'S SMOKING... Hi JMDLers! The reason I asked (in my "pop" quiz) when Joni started smoking again is because she said something in her PPV concert, when she was relating that wonderful story about knitting half-naked on the bed, about having stopped smoking at that time. Does anyone else remember her mentioning that?!?! Silly me...I was just assuming she was successful in her attempt...at least for a while anyway. Cheers! Marilyn B. CC: BMFD78C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:12:12, -0500 From: BMFD78C@prodigy.com (MRS MARILYN A BILLONE) Subject: EYE COLOR? Hello, again! Kakki, thank you for answering all my questions on the "pop quiz" last week. I especially enjoyed your description of Joni's eyes--twinkling sapphire blue. The reason I asked is because on Wally's homepage, it looks like her eyes are brown! And it appeared that way to me when she was walking onstage on her PPV show. I got a bit cornfused! I don't know why...I've had her "For the Roses" album, with her big, blue eyes, since 1975! Forgive this 46- year-old heart and mind... Peace, ma brothas and sistas! Marilyn B. CC: BMFD78C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:37:40 EST From: MHart16164@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Smokin' songs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_911511462_boundary Content-ID: <0_911511462@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_911511462_boundary Content-ID: <0_911511462@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: MHart16164@aol.com Return-path: To: jone@smoe.org Subject: Re: Smokin' songs Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:25:26 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm surprised they didn't list Joni songs as a drug themselves. They are rather addicting. m. We got high on travel, and we got drunk on alcohol and on love the strongest poison and medicine of all... p.s. all joni songs are smokin' - --part0_911511462_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:33:21 +1100 (EST) From: michaelb@coolgold.com.au (Michael) Subject: Joni T-Shirt sayings Hi all heres my 2 cents worth 1 I'm travelling in this (some?) T shirt 2 SEX KILLS 3 Who pissed a Tequila Anaconda??? (someone is bound to come up and ask) Cheers Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:45:11 +1000 From: Marian Rulewski Subject: Re: Tshirts How about "Oh, you're a mean old Daddy but you're out of sight"? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:15:00 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: T-Shirt Sayings In a message dated 98-11-19 03:44:35 EST, FredNow@aol.com writes: << "Some turn to Jesus, some turn to heroin." -Fred >> oh, i like this one fred! its a keeper. (and by the way, if given the choice, i'll take the heroin thank you very much...) love, ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:15:30 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: Rush list? (NJC) In a message dated 98-11-19 11:48:55 EST, IVPAUL42@aol.com writes: << Susan C.>> Tom Rush? Glendon Rusch (KC Royals pitcher)? Rush Limbaugh? I don't know about Tom, but I'm sure there is a mailing list for the loud- mouthed latter. >> oh paul. you're so square. (and baby i don't care.) (god, i must be chanelling helly!!) hee hee. ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:15:25 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: T-Shirt Sayings In a message dated 98-11-19 10:13:43 EST, jml@amweaver.com writes: << OK, how about the doves from DJRD(like the embroiderd shirts, which I would love to get if they came in 2x nudge nudge, wink wink) with: "In my dweems we fly" on a two-tone(tie died from top to bottom maybe?) shirt, Blue and Paprika? >> I WANT ONE...(and not to nitpick, but isn't it "in my dweems we FWY?" or did i dream that?) anyway, i want one of those shirts...real bad. see ya, ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:15:02 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: joni covers In a message dated 98-11-19 03:50:44 EST, pglass@tasyo.kssp.upd.edu.ph writes: << I want to know from fellow Listees who and what version of Joni songs they loved the most. >> hi joseph - pheobe snow's "case of you" was damned fine... she didn't bring much new to the tune, but that voice! peace! ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:40:32 -0300 From: "wallykai" Subject: RE: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog Oh My God Don Rowe! I never even heard of half of the stuff you mentioned. And I thought I was decadent and cool. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:15:28 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog In a message dated 98-11-19 10:24:25 EST, dgrowe@hotmail.com writes: << DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke!! I am in no way advocating the abuse of preseciption medication, alchohol or any other controlled substance. Please allow me to apologize in advance if this offends anyone -- it was not my intention. >> well damn! i was getting ready to head on over to your house!!! - ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:23:58 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: EYE COLOR? In a message dated 11/19/98 4:16:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, BMFD78C@prodigy.com writes: << The reason I asked is because on Wally's homepage, it looks like her eyes are brown! And it appeared that way to me when she was walking onstage on her PPV show. >> Marilyn, She has beautiful sparkling blue eyes that are intense and gentle at the same time. Terry, who was lucky enough to see them up close! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:26:43 +0000 From: Rob Jordan Subject: NJC - UK JMDL outing to see Lucinda Williams Hi all UK Joni fans, I'm going to see Lucinda Williams this Sunday evening at Shepherd's Bush Empire. I think Azeem is also going to be there. If anyone else is planning to go, we could meet before the show. Let me know! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:03:04 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: T-Shirt Sayings I second that emotion! On the album cover it's "Fwy" and in the liner notes it's "Fly." I suppose the JMDL police have corrected you 300 times already, Ric! :-) At 6:15 PM -0500 11/19/98, RickieLee1@aol.com wrote: >> > >I WANT ONE...(and not to nitpick, but isn't it "in my dweems we FWY?" or did >i dream that?) anyway, i want one of those shirts...real bad. ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:09:19 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Smokin' songs/Smokin' JM Catalog At 7:20 AM -0800 11/19/98, Don Rowe wrote: >6. Hejira -- 'shrooms How about Northern Lights pot? >7. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter -- mescaline, or peyote if you can get >it! ;-) ACID!!! Mark, not advocating any drug use!!! NP-DJRD ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | | http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:30:25 +0000 From: "Ellen F. Fitzgerald" Subject: tequila anaconda Thanks Michael, I've been trying to figure out that lyric for years! >3 Who pissed a Tequila Anaconda??? (someone is bound to come up and >ask) Yes, that would be provocative! Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:30:31 +0000 From: "Ellen F. Fitzgerald" Subject: JM notes Two reaccuring images I have noted in Joni's songs are torn stockings and it seems loud wires in walls. She must go through those nylons with one heck of a headache. :~<> Other t-shirts: "Don't interrupt the sorrow." "I'm so hard to handle, I'm selfish and I'm sad." With amusement and respect, Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:35:34 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: JM notes In a message dated 11/19/98 9:33:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bijou@postoffice.worldnet.att.net writes: << Other t-shirts: "Don't interrupt the sorrow." "I'm so hard to handle, I'm selfish and I'm sad." >> My other favorite line for a T-shirt, which could be dressed up with the sad and happy mask symbols of the theater: "Laughing and crying, you know it's the same release." Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:07:57 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: Rush list? (NJC) Ric, Oooooo TOO GOOD! You are positively baaaaaaad my dear ;~) > oh paul. you're so square. (and baby i don't care.) > > (god, i must be chanelling helly!!) hee hee. Who is helly anyway? :~D Okay, here's my Rush list: 1) You think that love will wait So you don't hold on and Then it's gone... 2)He'd piss a tequila anaconda in your fireplace (so it's a compilation :~) 3)How do you stop a run away train? 4)Oh, how do you stop?! Susan L.A. Honey McBabe- mixin' a little Lafayette Green into the threads...maybe even mixin the threads :~) "...be nice kitty, kitty..."-JoniM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:07:47 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: another joni fan OK, so there I was in the men's room at Damon's in Orange Park, Fla., earlier tonight with my son Jacob (who turns 6 on Saturday) because I'd promised him we could go to Damons for ribs and NTN trivia games after his T-ball season ended. (They lost their final game Wednesday 16-14, but finished the season 11-3). And what do I see? A guy in his early 20s, maybe mid 20s, wearing a Turbulent Indigo T-shirt just like the one I bought at the Atlanta concert last week. So I said, "I've got a short just like that one." (OK, so mine is an XL.) "What, this one?" the guy asks. "Yes," I say. "I bought it in Atlanta at the concert." Turns out that's where he got his, too. And that he also had the feeling after Joni's performance that he didn't really care to see Dylan, but his girlfriend made him stay. Or maybe it was that he didn't to go to the Ritz-Carlton instead. Anyway, I mentioned that I got to meet her and Chris and I exchanged brief stories about how we first got hooked on Joni. He first liked Court and Spark, but also said his parents were big fans of Joni's as well. (I tried to ignore that comment from the lad.) I asked if he had a computer. He said he did and that he'd checked out the Wally's JM homepage numerous times, but he had not heard of the JMDL site. So I wrote it down for him. Then Jacob and I went back to our table to finish Jacob's dessert and finish beating the other NTN Trivia players for the fourth straight game (stole Game 3 cause I knew Olivia DeHavilland was in GWTW and the others didn't. Won Game 4 because I cleaned up on the 2,000-point baseball question. Don't mess with me on those, folks.) So maybe we will see a second person from Jacksonville here in the JMDL someday soon. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:18:41 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: dylan's guitarist In a message dated 11/19/98 12:08:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, EBerger@NJAOST.ML.com writes: << Does anyone know who is the guy playing guitar with Dylan on the tour? I thought he was fabulous... Whadda ya all think? >> Well, he's no Robbie Robertson, that's for sure. I thought Dylan's backups in the Atlanta show were unimaginative and repetitive -- in a word, boring. Nothing the guitarist did made me even look in his direction, from what I can recall. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:18:38 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: joni covers In a message dated 11/19/98 1:17:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, philipf@tinet.ie writes: << The best cover of a Joni Mitchell song (imho) remains Woodstock by Mathews Southern Comfort from 1970. A beautiful arrangement with sun kissed harmonies and lovely pedal steel by Gordon Huntley. It went to number one in summer 1970 (interesting concept that - a good song at number one in the charts). >> Funny, I never heard their version, though I was very much alive in the summer of 1970 and have heard other stuff by that band (don't ask me to name one, though). Still, I'd vote for Tom Rush's cover of either "Urge for Going" or "Tin Angel." His different arrangements, especially on "Urge," are superb and his voice really can carry those songs quite well. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:18:21 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: NJC: Elliott Smith tattoo story Thought some of you'd appreciate this...it's basically self-explanatory, and was written by my friend Moe. I think you can see the tattoo on the cover of Either/Or and if you do a web search on Elliott, one of the fan sites has a good photo of the tattoo, if you're interested. rachel - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Let me tell you one reason why I LOVE Elliott Smith. I'm sure some of you know this story. On his right arm is a tattoo of a bull smelling flowers. His name is Ferdinand and he spends his days smelling flowers. One day, the farmer comes to select one bull for the fight. While smelling flowers, Ferdinand is stung by a bee and runs and jumps all over the field because of the pain. The farmer picks him because he seems the most combative and strong. Once in the bullring, people throw flowers for the bullfighter and instead of fighting, Ferdinand smells them. So he's taken back to his field and he lives old smelling the flowers. People think that he is dumb and stupid but in fact he is the smartest of the bulls because he escaped a certain death. He does not want to be part of the system. Elliott Smith says he recognizes himself a lot in Ferdinand and so do I. This guy is great :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:58:47 -0500 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: joni covers Sorry, I've missed most of this thread - I'm back in Toronto again (wishing Jioni was playing here again. What is Kilaurin's last name - maybe I'll look her up after my yoga class on Saturday?) The two recent covers I've enjoyed the most are: Sarah McLachlin - Blue Annie Lennox - Ladies of the Canyon Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:59:01 -0500 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: another joni fan Hi Paul, This is a nice story. It is also another reason why we should find a way to do the t-shirt thing. We'll all know we're out there - not alone in our hometowns. Brett - ---------- From: IVPAUL42@aol.com So maybe we will see a second person from Jacksonville here in the JMDL someday soon. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:44:41 -0500 (EST) From: pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito) Subject: No regrets Coyote (New York.) Hey Kidz, Off the list and outta here; hell, I just trashed two weeks of unopened digests anyway. Just as well, I mighta' got resentful hearing about all those great shows - and me truant from MSG, 11/1! This baggage overload, westbound and rolling, Esquizito - and the recycled Rott'n one, Dorian. 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