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JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 481
The Joni Tour Pages:
http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm
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JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank
message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info.
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The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available
now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details.
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The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at
http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio,
original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more.
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The JMDL website can be found at and contains
interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more.
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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NJC: Marian unplugged [Howard Wright ]
Joni interview, guitar tunings [Howard Wright ]
Re: Facelift T-Shirt [MHart16164@aol.com]
Face Lift t-shirt [Brett Code ]
Re: Joni in December GUITAR magazine [TerryM2442@aol.com]
Re: Send me your recipes! [TerryM2442@aol.com]
JM T-Shirt Sayings ... ["Don Rowe" ]
RE: Marian Unplugged NJC -Reply [Mary Grace Valentinsson ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... [heather ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... [Susan Chaloner ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... [KerriLynn@aol.com]
BRUUUUCE (NJC) [Mary Pitassi ]
Re: Tom Rush; Madison "meet and greet"?? (SJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Re: DJRD and Carlos Casteneda things [Rob Jordan ]
Re: DJRD and Carlos Casteneda things -Reply [Mary Grace Valentinsson ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... [RickieLee1@aol.com]
Re: [Marian Rulewski ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...(NJC) ["Marsha" ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... [heather ]
Stuff [Wally Breese ]
Another Joni book? [Phyliss Ward ]
Re: Another Joni book? ["Marsha" ]
Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ... ["Ellen F. Fitzgerald" ]
Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) ["Kakki" ]
Joni tune at Macys [kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)]
Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) ["Kakki" ]
Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) ["Kakki" ]
Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:20:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Howard Wright
Subject: NJC: Marian unplugged
Great news Marian! All the best for the gig - I'm sure you'll do just
great. Be sure to report back and tell us what you played and how it went!
Howard W.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:38:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: Howard Wright
Subject: Joni interview, guitar tunings
Thanks to Dennis Leong for pointing us to www.musicianmag.com for the full
length Joni interview (head for the "Art" section of the site folks).
There is a lot of interesting stuff there. A note for the guitarists on
the list, Joni says:
"The VG8 has this palette of presets that you can't access except by
standard tuning ... so I had to learn a little bit of standard guitar
tuning - well enough, at least, to figure out how to put the horns on "Man
From Mars". Most of the sweetening was done on the guitar in standard
tuning, which is a real exercise for me"
No wonder I had trouble figuring out the tuning and guitar parts for
MFM!!! I thought all the parts used the same tuning - it sounds like the
main guitar uses an altered tuning, and all the overdubbed horn parts are
done with standard tuning, so she uses two tunings for the same song.
I wonder if this is the first time she has recorded guitar parts for the
same song using more than one tuning? She does the same thing on Harlem In
Havana and Lead Balloon, but I don't think she's done this on previous
albums.
Howard
*******************************************************
Howard.Wright@ed.ac.uk
Just when you're thinking you've finally got it made
Bad news comes knocking at your garden gate
Joni Mitchell
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:19:31 EST
From: MHart16164@aol.com
Subject: Re: Facelift T-Shirt
Oh, let's not do the jealousy thing again, but...
I really want one of those facelift t-shirts.
Wally, do what you can to save us from envy!
M.
Just a little green.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:10:16 -0700
From: Brett Code
Subject: Face Lift t-shirt
I've had the same types of reaction to my Face Lift t-shirt. People sometimes just stop and stare but often come up and comment. I got one in Vancouver last Spring and bought a replacement in Toronto. I do hope, for you unlucky ones, that Wally can make a deal with Joni's management to sell them at jonimitchell.com.
I can think of a few other one liners from Joni that I would love to have printed on t-shirts. If I got all the colours in the rainbow, I'd not have to think of what to wear.
Could be rhetorical:
"Is Justice just ice?"
or harsh:
"You make everything I dread and everything I fear come true."
or out of context puerile:
"Your serpent cannot be denied."
or a new thread of jmdlers' favourite lines
Brett
np: Paprika Plains
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From: some millers
in what could be construed as my own sunday with jm, i was clad in my
"facelift" t-shirt for the first time during the moma outing. (for those
not lucky enough to have been at the recent concerts (i was in syracuse
11/2), the "facelift" t-shirt is simply solid black with very minimal white
text on the back: "happiness is the best facelift." with jm's name in even
smaller font below.) it was great to experience the reactions of several
folks at moma to jm's simple/profound statement. even one of the security
guards in the jp exhibit came up to me and asked me about it while he wrote
it down.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:16:23 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni in December GUITAR magazine
In a message dated 11/15/98 11:59:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mann@chicagonet.net writes:
<< Interviewer: Many contemporary songwriters credit you with inspiring,
if
not shaping, their music. Whose praise has meant the most to you?
Joni: I take my honor not so much from my peers but from my fans who
aren't too intimidated to express themselves and articulate their
stories.
That's more interesting than industry honors. >>
Laura,
Thanks for sharing. In light of recent discussions here, this is most
meaningful to me.
Terry
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:33:40 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Send me your recipes!
C'mon you guys! Let's get more recipes to Marian for Joni's Xmas gift! I just
sent in my "Grandma Mollie's Authentic Paprika Plains Chicken".
Terry, lips smacking just thinking of it
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:46:08 PST
From: "Don Rowe"
Subject: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
Okay, here's my list of sayings for joni-addict t-shirts:
1. "Love's a repetitious danger ..."
2. "It's all a dream she has awake ..."
3. "We look like our mothers did now, when we were those kid's age"
4. "Put me at the top of your danger list for being so much like you
are."
5. "I'm just a chalkmark in a rainstorm ..."
6. "It all comes down to you ..."
7. "No regrets, coyote."
8. "It was just a false alarm."
9. "Laughing and crying you know it's the same release ..."
10. "Listening back to the good old bands, and the click of high
heeled shoes ..."
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:08:29 -0800
From: Mary Grace Valentinsson
Subject: RE: Marian Unplugged NJC -Reply
This is, of course, forbidden, but I say: "ME TOO!!!"
>>> "wallykai" 11/16/98 06:05pm >>>
Dare I ask? Will you be recording? Wrote Lori, to which I add:
Please say you will, Marian! I, for one, would love to have a tape of your
concert.
WallyK
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:14:24 EST
From: MHart16164@aol.com
Subject: city of angels debate-NJC!
Has anyone seen city of angels/
We are having a debate at work, some people got that he committed suicide at
the end. I didn't get that at all. Am I just a naive, hopelessly optimistic
person????
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:39:51 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
I'm headed to the church to play Bingo-
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:16:16 EST
From: Dreamzvill@aol.com
Subject: Re: village voice/nyc
Hi Paul -
Thanks for reminding me!
I dreamed last night I went to see the Van Gogh exhibit, and everybody else
had moved on, but I was standing in front of one of the pictures CRYING, and
couldn't move on (now I can't remember which one it was, but I still remember
the blue and yellow swirls of paint - no, not Starry Night)! Weird.
Susan C.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:29:02 -0600
From: Mary Pitassi
Subject: Tom Rush; Madison "meet and greet"?? (SJC)
TOM RUSH, folk singer and early interpreter of JM songs like "Urge for
Going" and (I think) "Circle Game," will be performing at the Madison
(Wisconsin) Civic Center this Saturday evening, Nov. 21, at 8 p.m. Tickets
are $15 and $20. Availability is still good. South-central Wisconsin
listers (I know you're out there!) and other interested folks: anyone want
to see Tom as a group, and/or do a "meet and greet" before or after the
show? If so, please e-mail me privately, and as soon as possible.
I think this would be lots of fun--and (although I *loved* Joni's recent set
list) it might be the only way we'll ever get to hear some favorite JM songs
live! ;-)
Mary P.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:33:34 -0600
From: Mary Pitassi
Subject: RE: Marian unplugged
Marian:
Congratulations on landing your "gig," and best of luck! Having heard your
renditions of Joni's music live on two occasions now, I really wish I could
be in Vienna that evening. However, since that's impossible, I'm with the
others who asked, "Do you plan to tape?"
Hope the answer is "yes"!!
Mary P.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:39:16 -0500
From: heather
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
These are pretty good, Don.
Joni's lyrics are so rich with "sayings" ....
mine are:
1. "again and again the same situation ,,,"
2. " let the wind carry me"
3. my stay off of drugs shirt - "It's down, down, down the dark ladder"
4. and I'd love to have this on a shirt:
Some get the gravy
Some get the gristle
Some get the marrow bone
And some get nothing
Though there's plenty to spare
my .02 worth
heather
At 07:46 AM 11/17/98 PST, you wrote:
>Okay, here's my list of sayings for joni-addict t-shirts:
>
>1. "Love's a repetitious danger ..."
>2. "It's all a dream she has awake ..."
>3. "We look like our mothers did now, when we were those kid's age"
>4. "Put me at the top of your danger list for being so much like you
>are."
>5. "I'm just a chalkmark in a rainstorm ..."
>6. "It all comes down to you ..."
>7. "No regrets, coyote."
>8. "It was just a false alarm."
>9. "Laughing and crying you know it's the same release ..."
>10. "Listening back to the good old bands, and the click of high
>heeled shoes ..."
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:08:55 -0800
From: Susan Chaloner
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
TerryM2442@aol.com wrote:
>
> I'm headed to the church to play Bingo-
"...Harley parking only...all others will be crushed..." };~D
Okay, so maybe Joni didn't write it...but since she's been hangin' with
Bobby she could have :~D
Susan L.A.
Honey McBabe-"...Makin' love without a license..."-JoniM
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:28:47 EST
From: KerriLynn@aol.com
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
my $.02
1) EVERYTHING COMES AND GOES....
2) EVERYBODY'S SAYIN' THAT HELL'S THE HIPPEST WAY TO GO...
3) NO REGRETS, COYOTE...
THANKS,
KERRILYNN
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:59:47 -0600
From: Mary Pitassi
Subject: BRUUUUCE (NJC)
I know there are some Springsteen fans on the JMDL. Has anyone bought
and/or had a chance to listen to his new 4-disc boxed set of outtakes and
B-sides? If so, what do you think?
I've heard very good things about this collection so far, but would love to
get some input from folks whose musical taste I've already found to be
impeccable before plunking down upwards of $50 for a gift--for others,
or for myself!
Thanks,
Mary P.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:41:23 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tom Rush; Madison "meet and greet"?? (SJC)
In a message dated 11/17/98 12:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
PitassiM@WEAC.org writes:
<<
TOM RUSH, folk singer and early interpreter of JM songs like "Urge for
Going" and (I think) "Circle Game," >>
"Tin Angel" would be another of Joni's early songs that Tom has interpreted
and recorded.
Paul I
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:40:06 +0000
From: Rob Jordan
Subject: Re: DJRD and Carlos Casteneda things
>"...last night the ghost of my old ideals re-ran on Channel 5."
It's been suggested previously that this lyric refers to the film of Joni's
performance at the Isle of Wight festival. That she might have seen a
re-run and been struck by the youthful idealism she showed then. Makes
sense to me.
Rob
np: Pagan Streams, a Van Morrison live recording
'When you see her, say: "Yo! Hey-bop-a-rebop"'
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:54:38 -0800
From: Mary Grace Valentinsson
Subject: Re: DJRD and Carlos Casteneda things -Reply
>>> Rob Jordan 11/17/98 02:40pm >>>
>"...last night the ghost of my old ideals re-ran on Channel 5."
It's been suggested previously that this lyric refers to the film of Joni's
performance at the Isle of Wight festival. That she might have seen a
re-run and been struck by the youthful idealism she showed then. Makes
sense to me.
===
It's also been discussed that it might be the Monterey Pop show as well.
Trouble is, I don't think that this is a typical re-run. Older movies and the
tie in with other..."I come from open prairies, given some wisdom and a
lot of jive..." seems to allude more to my interpretation.
She was a young girl on the open prairie, perhaps raised in a 50's style
of "what makes a women." Some wisdom, (perhaps, to love words),
some jive, (perhaps the manipulating, "Rules" sort of romance snaring)
that was furthered by old movies that perpetuating these "ideals."
MG
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:55:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Bernadette Gallagher
Subject: [none]
Hey, JMDL: On Thurs/Fri I posted several
pleas for companionship in All Day Joni
Sunday. Then Sunday came and found me
lost in the woods with 3 dogs and a lot of
deer. It has become clear to me (I'm quick)
that every day is Joni Day, and I'd like to
thank everyone for greeting me with such
hospitality here, but also for sending me off
my rocker on Joni like when I first heard 12
years ago!! Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:05:08 EST
From: RickieLee1@aol.com
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
all right list! here is the definitive saying....
how about: "who you gonna get to do the dirty work, when all the slaves are
free?"
no? come on! ok. how about this:
"it always seems so righteous at the start
when there's so much laughter
and there's so much spark..."
ok, ok, too long, i know. here's another:
"you know the times you impress me the most
are the times when you don't try..."
geesh. tough crowd. last entry:
"i'm learning, it's peaceful, with a good dog and some
trees.
out of touch with the breakdown of this century."
all right. i give up. but i'll be back. (i like this thread!)
peace, ric
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:05:50 +1000
From: Marian Rulewski
Subject: Re:
Bernadette,
your mailing address keeps bouncing, so could you please contact me off list if you still want 'Sweet Joni' and we'll see what we can do.
Thanks
>>> Bernadette Gallagher 11/18 12:55 pm >>>
Hey, JMDL: On Thurs/Fri I posted several
pleas for companionship in All Day Joni
Sunday. Then Sunday came and found me
lost in the woods with 3 dogs and a lot of
deer. It has become clear to me (I'm quick)
that every day is Joni Day, and I'd like to
thank everyone for greeting me with such
hospitality here, but also for sending me off
my rocker on Joni like when I first heard 12
years ago!! Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:16:40 -0500
From: "Marsha"
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...(NJC)
Jonatha Metaphors for T-shirts...
Great topic.
"You can make the world your charm or your chain"
Oops.
Wrong musiclist...
Marsha, dog-dreaming
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:26:00 -0500
From: heather
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
At 06:05 PM 11/17/98 EST, you wrote:
>
>how about: "who you gonna get to do the dirty work, when all the slaves are
>free?"
>
>no? come on! ok. how about this:
>
> "it always seems so righteous at the start
> when there's so much laughter
> and there's so much spark..."
>
>ok, ok, too long, i know. here's another:
>
> "you know the times you impress me the most
> are the times when you don't try..."
>
>
OK - This one I have tought of and I like ...
geesh. tough crowd. last entry:
>
> "i'm learning, it's peaceful, with a good dog and some
>trees.
> out of touch with the breakdown of this century."
>
How about just the last part "out of touch with the breakdown of this
century."
on one side and on the other "not gonna fix that up too easy" ;-)
I like all the suggestions so far! Oops ... my hubby just peered over my
shoulder ... I said "Joni sayings on T-Shirts!" he says ... "that's my
cue" and leaves the room.
I really think we should follow through on some of these ideas like
T-Shirts, bumperstickers, etc. Be proud, be brave, be a JMDLer! Join Today!
Heather
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 98 16:12:23 -0700
From: Wally Breese
Subject: Stuff
Hi everybody,
Now that things in JM-land have settled down, I can sit back a bit,
relax and appreciate the avalanche of riches that have become available
to Joni-philes over the last 6-8 weeks. I'm so grateful to our heroine
for extending herself for our benefit.
Tour #2 with Dylan went smoothly, even with Joni becoming irked
enough at three shows to vocally chastise a few noisy and distracting
audience members. The tour was also a success on the financial side. In
fact, the Madison Square Garden show on November 1st was the 6th
highest-grossing concert of that week, grossing over 1 million dollars in
ticket sales.
I want to thank those Web friends who served as official JM.COM
reporters/photographers for Joni's tour. David Mingus, Duane Kaschak,
Roger Walker, Pearl Weisberg, Sue McNamara, Laura Oppermann, James Leahy,
Irwin Barrer, Bill Dollinger, Terry Matlen, Marion Russell, Sherrie
Goode, Brad Fors, Adam S. Glasser, Brett Code, Alan Larson and all those
who submitted a review or a photo of the JM show they attended. I still
have some photographs and a review or two coming in, but the pages about
the tour are essentially complete. Experience Joni's 1998 tour in words
and images at:
http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html#NewReports
Later,
Wally Breese
The Joni Mitchell Homepage
http://www.JoniMitchell.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:33:35 -0800
From: Phyliss Ward
Subject: Another Joni book?
While browsing amazon.com I found the following:
Joni Mitchell : Hits
by Carol Cuellar (Editor)
Our Price: $21.95
Availability: This title usually ships within
24 hours.
Paperback (May 1997)
Does anybody know what this is?
- --
Phyliss
pward@lightspeed.net
http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:03:06 -0500
From: "Marsha"
Subject: Re: Another Joni book?
Hi, Phyliss,
This is the Hits songbook, out since 1997.
Carol C and Aaron Stang were the project
managers.
Marsha
- -----Original Message-----
From: Phyliss Ward
To: JMDL
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:40 PM
Subject: Another Joni book?
>While browsing amazon.com I found the following:
>
>Joni Mitchell : Hits
> by Carol Cuellar (Editor)
> Our Price: $21.95
>
> Availability: This title usually ships within
>24 hours.
>
> Paperback (May 1997)
>
>Does anybody know what this is?
>
>--
>Phyliss
>pward@lightspeed.net
>http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward
>
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 02:03:48 +0000
From: "Ellen F. Fitzgerald"
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
Hi List!
I'm a new listener/contributor. Just signed up two days ago. I already feel
at home as I am an avid fan of Joni. This t-shirt thing sparked my interest.
Rickie Lee. Don't give up. I nodded my head at the following:
>how about: "who you gonna get to do the dirty work, when all the slaves are
>free?"
> "i'm learning, it's peaceful, with a good dog and some
>trees.
> out of touch with the breakdown of this century."
>
>all right. i give up. but i'll be back. (i like this thread!)
I immediately felt like raiding all of the gems from Silky Veils of Ardor
for my personal t-shirt.
How about:
"We are twins of spirit...
Man to Woman
Skin to Feathers
You and I"
Or of the bummer variety:
"We are all hopelessly oppressed cowards..."
"I am a poor wayfaring stranger travelling through all these highs and lows"
You definitely have not heard the end of this from me by any stretch. There
are so many! They do tend to get a little long for t-shirts, but I can dream.
I don't know for sure yet, but I think I love you all.
Ellen F.
P.S. Does anyone else feel that Joni pulled out all the stops and blew us
all away with her tremendous talent on TTT's album cover? Leave those
wannabe's smoked in the dust? For absolute certainty?!!
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:56:13 -0800
From: Mark or Travis
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
heather wrote:
>
> These are pretty good, Don.
> Joni's lyrics are so rich with "sayings" ....
> mine are:
Ok, here's a few I've always liked:
1. There is danger & education in living out such a reckless life style
2. Jealous lovin'll make you crazy
3. Last night the ghost of my old ideals reran on channel 5
4. Your serpent cannot be denied (DJRD seems to have a lot of them)
5. Is it possible to learn how to care & yet not care?
6. I wish I had a river I could skate away on
7. I was raised on robbery
8. Covered with keyloids from the slings & arrows of outrageous romance
Mark in Seattle
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:26:35 EST
From: RickieLee1@aol.com
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
In a message dated 98-11-17 21:06:58 EST, Bijou@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
writes:
<< Rickie Lee. Don't give up. >>
aw shucks ellen, you have inspired me to go on. here's my next batch:
(now THIS is a keeper!) "people don't know how to love -
they taste it and toss it!"
too negative??? grow up! life sucks!!! where you been???
all right, all right. (everyone's an effin' critic.) how's this?
"we love our lovin'....but not like we love our
freedom..."
now really, who couldn't relate to THAT???
no? bite me. but i have more! (HA!)
"if there's one rule to this game
everybody's gonna name it's
BE COOL!"
it is NOT TOO LONG!!! but, just to humor you all, here's a few shorties...
deep: "truth goes up in vapors..."
spoiled: "when its over don't you hate to have to put your toys away?"
gothic: "oh what do you know about living in turbulent indigo?"
pathetic: "all i ever wanted was just to come in from the cold..."
morbid: "you could have been more than a name on the door..."
madonna: "songs are like tatoos"
(somebody stop me!!!!)
i'm not finished with you yet list!!! dumb babies... (sorry. chanelling
angelica)
love, ric
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:09:42 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: JM T-Shirt Sayings ...
In a message dated 11/17/98 6:07:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
RickieLee1@aol.com writes:
<< all right list! here is the definitive saying....
>>
"Send me somebody who's strong and somewhat sincere."
Paul I
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:12:58 -0500 (EST)
From: some millers
Subject: re: MUSICIANS IN TUNE
a great site for such searches is:
http://www.bookfinder.com/
this was given me by a local independent used book dealer some time ago, and
it has come in very handy on many occasions. it searches the offerings of
many, many dealers and gives you a list of "hits" that you can follow-up
with. i did a search there already using your data...
the good news is that it found a dealer with a copy available for sale. the
bad news is that it is a first edition signed by the author, and this dealer
wants $200 in good old u.s. federal reserve notes (or lira equivalent)!!!
ciao-
paul (paolo, pavlos, pablo, etc.)
n.p. bayou deluxe... the best of michael doucet & beausoleil (rhino '92)...
tres bien!
>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:09:49 +0100
>From: FL
>Subject: MUSICIANS IN TUNE (njc?)
>
>I'm trying to find the book:
>MUSICIANS IN TUNE
>
>by Jenny Boyd (Fireside book) 1992
>ISBN: 0-671-73440-7
>
>If anybody can help, please email me.
>
>Thanks VERY much,
>Francesco
>
>
>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:34:43 +0100
>From: "Juerg Loeffler"
>Subject: Re: MUSICIANS IN TUNE
>
>>I'm trying to find the book:
>>MUSICIANS IN TUNE
>>by Jenny Boyd (Fireside book) 1992
>>ISBN: 0-671-73440-7
>
>Amazon indicates the book as being out of print. Is Joni one of the
>"seventy-five contemporary musicians discussing the creative
>process", as stated in the subtitle? Sounds like an interesting subject.
>
>- - Juerg -
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:05:13 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
There's a very interesting and poignant story and interview in today's LA
Times (Section E) with Van Morrison's former wife Janet "Planet" Morrison
Minto. The article says that she was the inspiration for many of Van's
early songs - they met in 1966. It is apparently the first interview she
has given in years and includes three photos of the young Van with daughter
Shana as a baby. She only began speaking to Van again in 1994. I'm fairly
certain she is the woman some of us saw with Van and Shana at the Bel Air
Hotel bar after the first Pauley concert. She has quietly been a
professional songwriter for many years and has many projects to her credit.
Here is an amusing excerpt --
Janet says they moved to Woodstock, N.Y. (in 1969) largely to be in the
vicinity of Bob Dylan, who was living there at the time. "Van fully intended
to become Dylan's best friend, but the whole time we were there they never
met," She winced at the memory. "Every time we'd drive past Dylan's house -
Van didn't drive, I did - Van would just stare wistfully out the window at
the gravel road leading to Dylan's place. He thought Dylan was the only
contemporary worthy of his attention. But back then Bob just wasn't
interested in him."
The article also notes that Shana's first showcase performance for a Los
Angeles audience is scheduled for December 2nd at the Opium Den in
Hollywood.
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 06:17:31 GMT
From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)
Subject: Joni tune at Macys
Was looking at suits in Macys tonight when a familiar tune began playing on
their loudspeaker -- it was the muzak version of Carey!
It brought a big smile to my face. 3 fun minutes in what was otherwise an hour
and a half of tedium. (I did at least manage to find a nice suit :-)
Never heard the muzak version of Carey before, never realized it existed. I
couldn't help but wonder if I was the only person in the store who could "name
that tune."
I started singing along, but had to stop because the tempo was a little off.
-Kenny
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:22:31 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
In a message dated 11/18/98 1:18:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net
writes:
<<
There's a very interesting and poignant story and interview in today's LA
Times (Section E) with Van Morrison's former wife Janet "Planet" Morrison
Minto. >>
Kakki,
Despite your subject title, I am thinking you did not intend to imply that
Janet is the "Brown-eyed Girl."
I have heard from several sources over the years that Van's original version
of the song was "Brown-skinned Girl" but that he changed it under pressure
from his record company.
Paul I
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:26:42 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
Paul wrote:
> Despite your subject title, I am thinking you did not intend to imply
that
>Janet is the "Brown-eyed Girl."
I did not intend to imply anything. "Profile - Janet Planet - Van
Morrison's Brown-Eyed Girl" is the title header in the LA Times article.
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:40:52 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
In a message dated 11/18/98 1:36:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net
writes:
<<
> Despite your subject title, I am thinking you did not intend to imply
that
>Janet is the "Brown-eyed Girl."
I did not intend to imply anything. "Profile - Janet Planet - Van
Morrison's Brown-Eyed Girl" is the title header in the LA Times article.
Kakki >>
I guess that's the L.A. Times mistake (or superficiality) then.
Reminds me that on some TV sitcom last night I saw someone try to make a joke
that he really wrote lyrics that Janis Joplin turned into "Me and Bobby McGee"
without giving him credit.
Only problem is the TV scriptwriter didn't know that song was written by
Kris Kristofferson, not Janis.
Paul I
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:34:38 -0800
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
>I guess that's the L.A. Times mistake (or superficiality) then.
So now I'm curious. Who correctly is the brown-eyed girl in the song, or
was Van just using artisitic license?
Kakki
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:46:00 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl article (NJC)
In a message dated 11/18/98 1:44:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net
writes:
<< So now I'm curious. Who correctly is the brown-eyed girl in the song, or
was Van just using artistic license?
Kakki >>
It was a brown-SKINNED girl, but he changed the lyric under pressure from his
record company. Therefore, there is no brown-eyed girl, per se.
Paul I
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