From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #471 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 471 The Joni Tour Pages: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Tour98.html http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm ------- Join the concert meet and greet lists by sending a message to any of these addresses: -Syracuse@jmdl.com Rochester@jmdl.com CollegePark@jmdl.com -NewYork@jmdl.com Kanata@jmdl.com Atlanta@jmdl.com ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to info-jonifest1999@jmdl.com for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History - November 8 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - November 7 [Today in Joni History ] Re: Joni LP [Bounced Message ] NJC: Audiophile's Corner ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: JMDL Digest V3 #470 [James Leahy ] JONI on vinyl [simon@icu.com] re: JONI 'sings' on them [simon@icu.com] CD's and seasons [bg26140@binghamton.edu] NJC:Gastritis [catman ] JONI VIDEO TAPE TREES [Ashara@aol.com] Re: Summer/Winter albums ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: JONI 'sings' on them [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Summer/Winter albums [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: JONI 'sings' on them [simon@icu.com] Re: JONI VIDEO TAPE TREES [Janet Hess ] NJC: Concert Reviews ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni & Bob at MSG 11/1/98 [Bernadette Gallagher ] re: PPV faire [Seanapper@aol.com] Birthday Card Cover ["Eric Taylor" ] RE: JONI 'sings' on them ["wallykai" ] Re: NJC: Advocate "outing" [Susan Chaloner ] NJC - Advocate outing [Bernadette Gallagher ] No NY, LA or other initials [Wally Breese ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:45:00 +0000 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 8 1996: Joni is taped for an appearance on the Rosie O'Donnell Show in New York City. For pictures and list member comments, go to: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/110896.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:23:00 +0000 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 7 1943: Joni is born in Fort MacLeod, Canada 1982: The New York Times publishes a review of Wild Things Run Fast, calling it "the most exhilaratingly high spirited album Miss Mitchell has ever made. For in addition to the edgy, syncopated folk-jazz singing that became her vocal trademark in the mid-70's, the album features several vibrant rock-and-roll performances that communicate a rare joy in being alive." Read the full article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/revwtnyt.htm 1994: Today's issue of Newsday gets in the Turbulent Indigo promotion act and publishes a talk with Joni. Here's Joni take on Los Angeles: "Driving in traffic is difficult, extreme. Your fellow civilians are hostile. The shopping center is full of Russians who, like, try to beat you if you don't watch your bill; they're all like black-market immigrants or something. The restaurants that I eat in are close enough to Brentwood, but there's an influx of, like, you know, sickly tourists wanting to know where the woman shops and how to copy her. You're glad to get through the day without a fire or a mudslide or a drive-by shooting. You jump in traffic when a car backfires. Lovely place to live. Full of inspiration." Read the rest at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/nd941107.htm 1995: Joni plays a surprise show at Greenwich's Village Fez Club in New York, in front of 200 fans, including Chrissie Hynde, Carly Simon, Natalie Merchant and Marc Cohn. For more info on the rather unique evening: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/vf9706.htm http://www.jmdl.com/articles/an951109.htm http://www.salon1999.com/05/features/carly.html 1996: Joni appearance on the CBS This Morning Show is taped today and broadcast the next day. Read list member comments and see pictures of a sleepy joni at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/110796.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:53:25 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Joni LP From: "Juerg Loeffler" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:28:45 +0100 Hi Danilo, >Night Ride Home was released on vinyl. Unfortunately, I just sold it. = >Do you have any other Joni "wants"? My vinyl collection goes thru CMIARS. In case you come across another NRH LP i would be highly interested. Michael just informed me, that TI was released on vinyl too. So that would be another item to complete my LP collection. Thanks and greetings from Switzerland - - Juerg - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:52:10 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Audiophile's Corner A: "Yes." jussi asked: - ---------------------------- Was it the "Blue" HDCD that didn't have any logos on it (except on the sticker) to indicate that it's the HDCD? - --------------------------- - - --jussi - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:45:08 +0000 From: James Leahy Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #470 Eric Taylor wrote << I watched the Sunday night airing which included Facelift & Crazy Cries (and they were fantastic). Is CBC showing three different edits of the concert? The third airing is this Tuesday from 11pm-1am EST.>> I watched the CBC special on Sunday (9pm to 10 pm) and saw no performances of Facelift or Crazy Cries. In fact, the only thing from TTT was Tiger Bones played at the opening. As far as "three different edits" is concerned, I saw no mention of any repeat performances of the special in TV Guide. The 11 to 12 slot is prime news time for CBC. However, please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank god this concert will be available on video soon. This CBC edit was extremely disappointing. I'll be posting a review on Wally's site soon. By the way, the CBC edit (which Joni personally mixed up here in Toronto) included a reaction closeup of the JM.COM maestro himself. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:50:23 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: JONI on vinyl Juerg Loeffler wrote >Subject: Joni on vinyl >Date: Mon. Nov. 9, 1998 > >Hi Michael, > >>NRH and TI were released on vinyl; >>no word yet on the availablity of TTT on vinyl. > >I had several infos from JMDLers stating the existence of NRH on vinyl. >But you are the first one to mention TI as well. Have you actually seen >TI on LP? Not that i doubt what you say, but apparantly this LP release >seems to be rather unknown, even among JMDLers. > >Thanks for your input! > Juerg, sorry to report TI was *not* released on vinyl. the last (New) Joni Mitchell album released on vinyl was 'NIGHT RIDE HOME', and in very limited quantities at that. there was a domestic (US) pressing as well as an Import pressing from Germany. both BLUE as well as COURT And SPARK are currently available in Special Limited Edition 'Audiophile' Pressings. both of these as well as the Vinyl NRH are sonically superior to the CD versions. for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- "The main reason Santa is so jolly is because HE knows where all the bad girls live." - Anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:50:31 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: re: JONI 'sings' on them Howard Motyl wrote ... >Subject: You know you are addicted to Joni when ... >Date: Thu. Nov. 5, 1998 > >You buy other artists albums because Joni sings on them--even though >you may not know the artist or how much she sings on the songs. >(Seal, Hancock, James Taylor (Mud Slide Slim...) > Howard, she's been on quite a few. i guess now is as good a time as any to post the updated list. this collection of recordings WILL be a TapeTree as some point in the near future. for now, we're still awaiting the December release of the last Album listed. there will also be a number of extras included as well. and Yes, we do have them all (except the Chieftains). for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- From: http://www.jonimitchell.com/OnOthers.html - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONI MITCHELL Misc. Recordings ~ Joni's appearances on Albums 'other' than her own. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1969 THE 1969 WARNER-REPRISE RECORD SHOW REPRISE #PRO-336, (released 1970) * My American Skirt 0:40 * Spoony's Wonderful Adventure 0:40 recorded at Carnegie Hall, feb. 1, 1969 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1970 MESSAGE TO LOVE, "THE ISLE OF WIGHT FESTIVAL - 1970" Essential CD #EDF CD 327 (UK) * Big Yellow Taxi * Woodstock august 29, 1970 / also released on video - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1971 JAMES TAYLOR, "MUD SLIDE SLIM & THE BLUE HORIZON" Warner Bros. #2561-2 * Love Has Brought Me Around * You've Got A Friend * Long Ago And Far Away recorded & mixed: jan. 3 thru feb. 28, 1971 CAROL KING, "TAPESTRY" Ode #EK-34946 * Will You Love Me Tomorrow THE MITCHELL/TAYLOR BOY -AND- GIRL CHOIR DAVID CROSBY, "If I Could Only Remember My Name" Atlantic #7203-2 * Laughing * What Are Their Names recorded & mixed: nov. 1970 thru spring 1971 SEEMON & MARIJKE, "Son of America" A & M #SP 4309 * Vegetable Stew - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1972 Eric Anderson, "BLUE RIVER" COLUMBIA #CK-31062 * Blue River JIMMY WEBB, "LETTERS" Reprise #MS 2055 * Simile - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1973 GRAHAM NASH, "WILD TALES" Atlantic #7288-2 * Another Sleep Song back cover drawing: Joni Mitchell JACKSON BROWNE, "FOR EVERYMAN" ASYLUM #SD 5067-2 * Sing My Songs To Me (electric piano, only) ROD TAYLOR, "S/T" ASYLUM #SD 5062 * Making A Way * Something Old - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1974 PAUL HORN, "VISIONS" Epic #KE 32837 * Blue (vocal & piano) TOM SCOTT & THE L.A. EXPRESS, "TOM CAT" Ode #EK 64960 * Love Poem JIMMY WEBB, "LANDS END" Asylum #SD 5070 * Feet In The Sunshine JOAN BAEZ, "Gracias a La Vida" A & M #828 393 614-2 * Dida - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1975 David Blue, "COM'N BACK FOR MORE" Asylum #7E 1043 * Lover, Lover, Lover Eric Anderson, "BE TRUE TO YOU" Arista #AL 4033 * Liza, Light The Candle * Woman, She Was Gentle * Can't Get You Out Of My Life * The Blues Keep Fallin' Like The Rain * Love Is Just A Game JOAN BAEZ, "DIAMONDS & RUST" A & M #CD 3233 * Dida - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1976 L.A. EXPRESS, "SHADOW PLAY" Caribou Records #34355 * Nordic Winds front cover painting: Joni Mitchell THE BAND, "THE LAST WALTZ" Warner Bros. #3146-2 * Helpless (Neil Young w/Joni) * Coyote * I Shall Be Released (backup vocal) recorded, november 25, 1976 also released on video - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1981 DAN FOGELBERG, "THE INNOCENT AGE" Full Moon/Epic #E2K 37393 * Nexus, (vocal descant) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1985 NORTHERN LIGHTS, "WE ARE THE WORLD" Album Polygram #824 822-2 * Tears Are Not Enough JAMES TAYLOR, "That's Why I'm Here" Columbia #CK 40052 * Only One - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1986 DARYL HALL, "THREE HEARTS IN THE HAPPY ENDING MACHINE" RCA #AJL1-7196 * Right As Rain - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1989 ALL-STAR RELEASE (for U.N. RAINFOREST CHARITY) Virgin Records #PRCD-2795 * Spirit Of The Forest INDIO, "BIG HARVEST" A&M #CD 5257 * Big Harvest * Hard Sun * My Eyes - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1990 DAVID BAERWALD, "BEDTIME STORIES" A&M Records #75021 5289-2 * Liberty Lies ROGER WATERS, "THE WALL - LIVE IN BERLIN 1990" Mercury #846 611-2 * Goodbye Blue Sky recorded: july 21, 1990, also released on video. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1992 SHAWN COLVIN, "FAT CITY" Columbia CD #CK 47122 * Object Of My Affection percussion, claps & a big laugh - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1994 SEAL, "SEAL" ZTT/Sire/Warner Bros. #9 45415-2 * If I Could Rare On Air: Volume 2 Live Sessions From KRCW's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" Mammoth Records #MR0107-2 * Just Like This Train recorded sept. 12, 1994 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 GRACE OF MY HEART (SOUNDTRACK) MCA #MCAD-11510 * Man From Mars unauthorized release, withdrawn & replaced with cover version. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 JANET JACKSON, "THE VELVET ROPE Virgin Records CD #7243-8-44762-2-9 * Got 'Til It's Gone (Featuring Q-Tip and Joni Mitchell) featuring samples from the Joni Mitchell recording "Big Yellow Taxi" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 KYLE EASTWOOD, "FROM THERE TO HERE" Columbia CD #68013 * Trouble Man HERBIE HANCOCK, "GERSHWIN'S WORLD" Verve CD #VERCD-37 * The Man I Love * Summertime The CHIEFTAINS, "TEARS OF STONE" (to be released in december) * The Magdalene Laundries - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:04:21 -0500 (EST) From: bg26140@binghamton.edu Subject: CD's and seasons On the topic of associating albums with seasons, I realized that I don't really think that Hejira is a winter album... I consider it a fall album. I think that the cover, obviously, lends itself to that colder season, but I always associate the fall with change, and that is how I've always viewed Hejira: as a great change for Joni and her music. Of course, if I went along that line, all of her albums would be autumn albums! Just a thought, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:12:57 +0000 From: catman Subject: NJC:Gastritis Does anyone know what gastritis is and what causes it?(not gastroenteritis) thanks colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:09:13 EST From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: JONI VIDEO TAPE TREES Boy, Oh Boy, OH, BOY!!!!!! DO I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!!! After six months of trying to find a reasonable price for overseas conversions......EUREKA!!!! Thanks to a connection (his sister) by Cholas, a newbie from Hawaii, our overseas listers can finally get the video trees! THANK YOU, CHOLAS!!!!!! I will act as a go-between, and have them sent here, and then send them out to you. Please follow these instructions exactly, as I have spent many, many hours trying to make this happen, and would like to get the videos into everyone's hands as soon as possible. 1) Send $25 in US funds to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 I will not order order or send any tapes without money, as I have done this before, without being reimbursed. 2) Please include a clear, printed address label, addressed to where you would like the videos sent 3) State what format you would like your videos in (PAL, NTFS) 4) Please add a note with your name, and e-mail address. 5) Please have all orders and money to me by December 1st, so I can get them to you by the holidays. THAT'S IT!!!!! Please e-mail me privately with any questions. Of course, any newbies, or other listers from the States that missed out on the video trees and would like to have them, please e-mail me for instructions. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:02:17 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums Howard Wright wrote: >Mark already mentioned Hejira as a winter album - >can anyone *not* agree with this ?!?!? Hejira is a record for all seasons. I associate it with summer most because that's usually when I'm driving across the burning desert witnessing the clouds of Michaelangelo muscular with gods and sungolds... Blue and Turbulent Indigo are the records I associate with winter. TTT is definately Autumn... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:21:02 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI 'sings' on them In a message dated 11/9/98 7:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, simon@icu.com writes: << 1969 THE 1969 WARNER-REPRISE RECORD SHOW REPRISE #PRO-336, (released 1970) * My American Skirt 0:40 * Spoony's Wonderful Adventure 0:40 recorded at Carnegie Hall, feb. 1, 1969 >> FYI, these are NOT songs. they are storytelling song intros. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:25:50 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums In a message dated 11/9/98 8:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, ewwtaylor@prodigy.net writes: << Hejira is a record for all seasons. I associate it with summer most because that's usually when I'm driving across the burning desert witnessing the clouds of Michaelangelo muscular with gods and sungolds... >> You may associate Hejira with summer for this reason, but let me point out that the desert is burning even in the winter, so I'd look for other clues besides that one. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:38:41 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: JONI 'sings' on them Paul I. points out ... >In a message dated 11/9/98 7:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, >simon@icu.com writes: > ><< > 1969 > > THE 1969 WARNER-REPRISE RECORD SHOW > REPRISE #PRO-336, (released 1970) > * My American Skirt 0:40 > * Spoony's Wonderful Adventure 0:40 > recorded at Carnegie Hall, feb. 1, 1969 >> > >FYI, these are NOT songs. they are storytelling song intros. thankx Paul, you are of course correct. perhaps i should have pointed that out. however, the list is titled: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >JONI MITCHELL >Misc. Recordings ~ Joni's appearances on Albums 'other' than her own. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ i didn't say she sang on all of these. i also listed the times so no one would think these were major inclusions. on several others it's difficult to even detect her presence but since she's clearly credited, they are a part of her discography. Interestingly enough ... Reprise Records as one time intended to release a Live Album from this 'Carnegie Hall Concert'. for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:43:08 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: JONI VIDEO TAPE TREES Apologies for the bandwidth for a personal message, but Ashara's ISP seems to find me offensive. - ------------- Ashara, mine pal, I tried e-mailing you, but the AOL robot insists that you aren't accepting mail from "this user." Could you send me the instructions for clueless oldbie Stateside JMDLers who would like to latch on to the video trees at this late date? Thanks. Hugs back atcha, Janet, still under the influence of Thursday At 08:09 PM 11/9/98 EST, Ashara wrote: >Of course, any newbies, or other listers from the States that missed out on >the video trees and would like to have them, please e-mail me for >instructions. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:31:21 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Concert Reviews I read several reviews on Wally's page and I agree that they.... that is the reviews are.... what I mean to say is.... awww hell! Most people can't write like JMDLers! Reading some of those reviews reminded me of a pep talk that the boss gave us last week. He was showing his appreciation to the crowd: "You know, sometimes we don't tell you that we appreciate.. you. Sometimes.... I guess... we figure that it.... goes without saying...... But it needs....... going..... said." I nearly busted out laughing! - -- Splitting infinitives down in steerage, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! Brian too!** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Bernadette Gallagher Subject: Joni & Bob at MSG 11/1/98 I just got on this list 10 minutes ago, so I've probably missed the gushfest over this show, but here's my mouthful anyhow. My apologies to everyone who finds this redundant. I never thought that I'd have a chance to experience Joni live, and this was really a dream come true. Joni was fabulous, danced around in a suave and sultry way, lit up and smoked a cigarette on stage! (Way to go, Joni, I'll never quit smoking now!) My non-JMDL friends who'd hoped for me that she'd play Big Yellow Taxi wouldn't even have recognized it, her bluesey steel spin re-defined it. She was definitely in a Hejira mood, we all loved it. At first I was afraid that most of the audience were Bob-heads, but I was happily proved wrong. The band was fabulous. they launched right into Just like This train and then a moving Night Ride Home. She may have lost some high notes, but Joni's voice left nothing to be desired. Sitting all the way in the back of MSG, she sounded great to me. I was expecting mostly Taming the Tiger, but I think we only heard one or two (I don't have that yet, so I couldn't tell you.). Free Man In Paris wasn't really a surprize, but I was blown away by the inclusion of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter and Hejira, not to mention Black Crow and Amelia. She explained Magdalene Laundries to us, but I didn't catch what country she said they were prevalent in. Did anyone else catch that? She was beautiful BECAUSE she was so understated, and this, I think is the core of her talent. Sex kills was understated! She, of course, encored with Woodstock, so I will never again be jealous of the audience of the Shadows & Light concert, because she not only played it solo with her lonesome guitar, she reverted to the Ladies of the Canyon intonation of "garden" And then she thanked us. I have a confession to make here: She was so phenonmenal that we were bored when Bob came out and even left in the middle of Gotta Serve Somebody! Here's hoping we all have many more chances to experience Joni live. I know she hates it, but she performed with the utmost grace, and she must know how much her fans appreciate her coming out. And smoking. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:17:13 -0500 From: Jeff & Vicki Harris Subject: Joni evangelism, french teachers and Edith Piaf I'll try to shorten a long story: I got an Edith Piaf record from the library only because Joni cites her as an influence. (She's great, BTW) My daughter mentioned to her French teacher that her mom's listening to some French lady who rolls her R's when singing. Teacher is a huge Piaf fan who sends home some great Edith stuff. In thanks, I send back a note telling why I was interested in Piaf, along with a tape of Joni's "Two Grey Rooms". Bottom line, a new Joni fan is born! The teacher would like me to tape some more Joni for her. I originally gave her Two Grey Rooms because that was Joni's most "Piaf-like" sound. Can anyone suggest what other songs I should tape? (I have all of Joni's CD's except for Mingus, DJRD, and WTRF.) Vicki n.p. Nothing Can Be Done....... (I LOVE this song!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:48:46 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Rufus Wainwright (was Re: WashingTonsofFun) (NJC) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:59:50 +0000 From: David Wright Jerry Notaro wrote: >We shared music, including the faboo Rufus Wainwright. >Too bad Michael caught me trying to steal away his autographed >copy. It so happens that I saw Rufus in concert in a small club the other night. (I just e-mailed Michael Y. about this privately.) Alas, while my respect for his music increased, my respect for him as a person decreased *drastically*. He was a total JERK! -- arriving late; complaining about the sound from the monitors throughout; interrupting a song to berate the poor sound technician girl (for supposedly talking), despite her very professionally apologizing; slagging the club (he introduced that song with the chorus "And you will believe in love/and all that it's supposed to be..." by saying "I think this ought to become a monster hit, and then I won't have to play crappy clubs like this anymore"); degenerating even further into pettiness when the poor sound girl had to tell him he had only five minutes left (sketchy, I know...). And more than a few other, more subtle things that bothered me.... I'll just wait and hope that no one tries to draw the comparison between this and Joni at Indianapolis before I take up bandwidth explaining why I don't agree with it. ;) Thought you might be interested. - --David NP: Liz Phair, _whitechocolatespaceegg_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:18:56 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Atlanta Review From: "Gerald Hillman" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:07:29 -0600 This is so cool! (meeting Joni) Way to go you guys! I have been thinking (and maybe I'm about to repeat myself) that last year when I first joined the list, there was only a couple people who had actually met her SIQUOMBness. I love reading these stories of JMDLers meeting Joni in the bar; the lobby; backstage; the stage door. I sat here watching the Joni special on CBC last night - after 2 friends phoned to tell me it was on - - but it was just me sitting here. So, when I read these stories, I feel like I'm sharing in the experience. I hop you don't mind the infringement, but when you well up with tears of joy, so do I. Thanks you guys, for sharing these times. The way you described her hand on yours is classic JMDL. (big sighs) Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:17:45 EST From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: re: PPV faire "John M. Lind" Subject: Birthday Card Cover I see Billie, I see Edith, I see Marvin, I see John, I see a pack of American Spirit, I see a spilt glass of red wine, I see some hot hippy chick, I see I'm digressing into a colorful blur... Thanx for putting Pittsburgh right in the middle of the inside, Wally! And it was so great to see your smiling face behind Joni so many times during the PPV special! Lucky dog... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:37:41 -0300 From: "wallykai" Subject: RE: JONI 'sings' on them Simon! Simon! Simon! You have solved the riddle of a lifetime for me. About 15 years ago I saw the Reprise LP that has My American Skirt on it. It was at a record store that doesn't exist anymore. For some reason, the name of this piece [which I thought WAS a song] stuck in my memory as My Little Red Skirt. Ever since that day I'd been trying to find this mysterious Joni song. I mean, even Wally didn't have it on his site, so you can all imagine: I was beginning to think I'd been delusional all these years. And now it's come to the light [with its right title]! Fifty reincarnations have been lifted off my overburdened karma. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:39:32 -0800 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: NJC: Advocate "outing" Rachel Kramer Bussel wrote: > I've been quite wary of purchasing The Advocate because > I feel like that magazine has this grand agenda that is all about putting > people into categories and NOT about recognizing people's right to make up > their own minds. It isn't just the Advocate...People are complex and rarely fit into categories of any kind for any reason ...but we want them to be simple because we only make time for one-dimensional characters in this "...scared hard-edged rat race..." So GODDAMNIT, we'll make them simple even if we kill them doing it And unfortunately, we frequently do... When pet-theories become more precious than human life what does that say about us? "...Every bristling shaft of pride Church or nation Team or tribe Every notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline..." You tell me: In ten thousand years will the sexual orientation of anyone on and/or off this list matter? How can you tell I'm wearing the TI T-shirt my pal Roberto so kindly draped me with? Thanks sugar! ;~) Susan L.A. "...All liberty is laced with Borderlines..."-JoniM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:09:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bernadette Gallagher Subject: NJC - Advocate outing This is probably a personal chat that I haven't heard enough of, but I'll jump in here anyhow. I work in a bookstore and am always amazed at the stuff the Advocate (and other mags) puts on the cover. You won't find that on CAQ! I find it quite frankly offensive to even discuss the orientation of people who chose to be private about sex (Sex, for Christ's sake - what could be more private?). I have to deal with this crap all the time because I am experimantal. I abhor all the labels as just that, and the "Borderline" allusion is utterly apropos. "But- you're gay!" or "You're dating a man? Why?!" are things I hear a lot. I've even been asked about new people "Is he/she gay?" I don't ask people. To me it's not the same as "Where do you live?" or "When's your birthday?" I think it's pathetic when people identify with a label. The strident gay community isn't all alone in this, of course. If skin color wasn't so obvious, I think power-seekers of ethnic groups would ask people what race they are. I've even been yelled at at work (They're pretty liberal there, in case you missed that) for going to Mass. "Why did you go to Mass?!?!" As if I had just eaten a baby. I could have fired back, "Why'd you pierce you tongue?!" but instead I just smiled knowingly. The more people ignore the borderlines, the fewer divisions there will be (I'm an idealist). We're going global, so why all this insularity? I won't ask who you worship if you won't ask me which direction I wipe from. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 23:39:23 -0700 From: Wally Breese Subject: No NY, LA or other initials Hi everyone, Now that Joni's Taming The Tiger is in stores, her tour is over, and the PPV special has aired, Joni says she needs a break. It's been a wild and heavy six weeks, and we've been given us so much recently, so please try to not be too disappointed at my news. Joni has canceled her upcoming press and promotional appearances, including the Charlie Rose Show, VH-1 Storytellers, a David Letterman show, and a photo shoot with famed photographer, Annie Liebowitz. This is a loss for us Joni-philes for sure, but our favorite songwriter is exhausted and a bit sick from the rigors of the recent tour and wants to go up into the Canadian backbush and rest for a few weeks. It's possible that any or all of the afore-mentioned programs could happen later in November, but signs are that a calming period has begun. Later, Wally Breese The Joni Mitchell Homepage http://www.JoniMitchell.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #471 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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