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JMDL Digest Monday, November 9 1998 Volume 03 : Number 470
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http://www.jmdl.com/articles/tour98.htm
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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JMDL, the Movie? [JRMCo1@aol.com]
njc washingtonsoffun ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
Summer/Winter albums [Howard Wright ]
Re: Joni on vinyl ["Juerg Loeffler" ]
Joni's B-day card [Howard Wright ]
Shadows and Light Video ? ["Edwin Harvey" ]
Re: Summer/Winter albums [catman ]
Re: likes and dislikes (njc) ["M & C Urbanski" ]
Atlanta Review [mann@chicagonet.net]
PPV fare(Implied JC) ["John M. Lind" ]
Re: WashingTonsofFun NJC [Jerry Notaro ]
Re: Meeting Joni [Marsha ]
Re: Summer/Winter albums [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Joni on CBC [bg26140@binghamton.edu]
Re: Summer/Winter albums [LRFye@aol.com]
JMDL Cookbook Project - Submit your recipes, please! (NJC) [M.Russell@ia]
Re: Summer/Winter albums [IVPAUL42@aol.com]
Re: PPV fare(Implied JC) ["M & C Urbanski" ]
Re: Summer/Winter albums [catman ]
Joni's knitting story ["John M. Lind" ]
Re: Atlanta Review/winter albums ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
(NJC) Re: advices on how to handle info-flow ;-) ;-) ;-) ["Winfried Hühn"]
Re: CBC special ["Eric Taylor" ]
Michael Stipe (NJC) [Mary Pitassi ]
Re: Atlanta Review [TerryM2442@aol.com]
joni on charlie rose! ["Barbara Burst" ]
PPV 11/6 Review (SJC) [MHart16164@aol.com]
Cookbook technical difficulties [Phyliss Ward ]
Re: Joni's knitting story [Denisongs@aol.com]
Re: Emmakitty(NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com]
Re: Atlanta Review (Conclusion) [Dreamzvill@aol.com]
Una cassa di te (A Case Of You) [cco@xs4all.nl]
SF EXAMINER MAGAZINE JONI ARTICLE [MDESTE1@aol.com]
Re: lefty/righty thus far (NJC) [Dreamzvill@aol.com]
MSG concert in "New York" [Mary Grace Valentinsson ]
MD review to come [sherrie.good@chronicle.com]
Re: joni on charlie rose! [John Lasater ]
NJC: Advocate "outing" [Rachel Kramer Bussel ]
Re: MD review to come ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
(Fwd) Hurricane Relief - How to HELP NOW ["Kim Korman Brown"
Subject: njc washingtonsoffun
Duane wrote:
>I know no-thing. The only real stars I know are the gracious JMDLers milling
>around DC this weekend. I keep forgetting that NYC is a real world unto
>itself. The performance and evening here were pretty special. The twinkling
>lights of Park Avenue beckoning.......
Eureka!---how could I have been so confused? Blame it on that darn
Ethiopian, honey wine... Yes it was the "twinkling lights of **Park
Avenue,**" not the twinkling lights of the concert stage... As in "the
firmament of The Big Apple is strung with tungsten stars"...yadda yadda yadda
So in the words of Emily Latella, "Nevermind."
Julie, with dreamland comin on... (;~>
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:50:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Howard Wright
Subject: Summer/Winter albums
Barrylauri@aol.com wrote:
> I don't know why but I inherently associate some of her music
> with the changing of the seasons. Is that nuts or what??
Mark in Seattle wrote:
>Not at all! Hejira is a winter album if ever there was one. Court &
>Spark is summer, summer, summer! And Clouds is autumn (along with
>Carole King's Tapestry and others) Anyway that's what the are to me.
>
Oh cool! I've been wanting to talk about this for a while! Many of Joni's
albums have really strong associations with the seasons for me. Mark
already mentioned Hejira as a winter album - can anyone *not* agree with
this ?!?!?
I wonder how these associations are created though. It's possible that the
time when you first buy or hear the album has an effect - you always think
back to this time when you listen again. I think it's probably more to do
with the content of the album itself though. The cover of Hejira has some
fairly strong winter references, but I would say that the introspection of
much of the album gives it the real "wintery" feel.
A few albums that have strong associations for me:
Summer albums
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DJRD
Night Ride Home
Court and Spark
Mingus
(Nothing better than putting Mingus on at decent volume when the weather
starts to get uncomfortably hot!)
Winter albums
- -------------
Hejira
Song To A Seagull
Autumn albums
- -------------
(That's "Fall" for you guys over the pond!)
For The Roses
Not sure about Hissing or Blue ... they have summery bits and autumnal
bits ....
Howard W.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:39:16 +0100
From: "Juerg Loeffler"
Subject: Re: Joni on vinyl
Hi Michael,
>NRH and TI were released on vinyl; no word yet on the availablity
>of TTT on vinyl.
I had several infos from JMDLers stating the existence of NRH
on vinyl. But you are the first one to mention TI as well. Have you
actually seen TI on LP? Not that i doubt what you say, but
apparantly this LP release seems to be rather unknown, even
among JMDLers.
Thanks for your input!
- - Juerg -
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT)
From: Howard Wright
Subject: Joni's B-day card
Wally Breese wrote:
> Also, yesterday I Express-mailed Joni's birthday card from all of us
>in the JM Internet Community. It arrived today at Joni's hotel in
>Atlanta, where she checked in this evening. You can view a reproduction
>of this year's birthday card at this address:
>
>http://www.jonimitchell.com/BDCard1198.html
The card looks absolutely beautiful! Huge thanks to Wally, Ken Slarty,
Michael Paz, Scott Price, Jody Johnson, Paul Ivice, Craig Harris and Jim
Johanson for bringing the project to fruition. You guys did a great job!
Howard W.
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 03:30:47 PST
From: "Edwin Harvey"
Subject: Shadows and Light Video ?
Help ! Can anyone out there tell me if the Shadows and Light video
still exists ?
I've been trying to find it for years, no shops in the UK have been
any help, they tell me it's not listed, and friends who've been to the
US/Canada haven't been able to find it either. (my VCR will playback
NTSC).
Can anyone help me ?
Edwin.
p.s. thanks to Dave Mascall for the BBC R3 Jaco info. if it wasn't for
my Jaco obsession I never would have bought Hejira (and subsequently
many more Joni CDs).
oh yea, I'm a lefty activist..... have you ever tried to buy a
left-hand guita
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:12:00 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums
Hejira NRH, TI, STAS, aare all dark winter albums for me. the rest are all
summery, although WTRF is spring.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:23:18 -0500
From: "M & C Urbanski"
Subject: Re: likes and dislikes (njc)
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> From: Evian
> To: joni@smoe.org
> Subject: likes and dislikes (njc)
> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:48 AM
>
> Likes:
> 11. diet dr. pepper in a can
> 12. smoking (contemplating the patch, God help me)
>
> Dislikes:
> 7) Dr. Laura
> this was fun, sorry about the extra 10 faves, couldn't stop myself!
> Evian
> np: still Hejira, over and over....
>
Now here are a couple of polls!!! How many JMDLers like Dr. Pepper? I do!
How many of us smoke? I do!
DR LAURA! What you don't like to be nagged and belittled? I prefer Dr. Joy
Browne!
Marilyn
I live in a box of paints
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:23:25 -0600
From: mann@chicagonet.net
Subject: Atlanta Review
Subject: Atlanta Review (Conclusion)
Part III:
Bob,
I absolutly LOVED your account of your Joni meeting!
My eyes were stuck on my screen....had to pull them
off. Didn't want the story to end!
Oh, it's all so incredible that all of you got to meet
her and have such a great experience. I can't
get over how accomodating Joni has been to everyone
she's met so far. It is so wonderful
to hear these accounts of her making eye contact and
taking the time to chat with everyone, signing
autographs...taking pictures..realizing how important
it is for us "regular" folk/fans to be able to have this
part of her. She does seem more and more
"real" with each account of a meeting. This really deepens
my respect for and admiration of her!
Laura
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:45:41 -0500
From: "John M. Lind"
Subject: PPV fare(Implied JC)
Dianna Duncan wrote:
>BTW, Deb, we ordered Chinese to eat along with Joni my living room.
OK, just how in-tune was this dinner synchronicity? How many other PPV
get-togethers had a "Chinese Cafe'" besides ours, and Diana's?
John~
NP "Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt" DJ Shadow
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:19:07 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: WashingTonsofFun NJC
Well I wasn't going to publicly post to the whole list about the
weekend, but I'm red-faced about Julie's kind words, so a few musings:
The list members went way beyond anything I could have possibly
imagined. That, for one, should be something Joni should be most proud.
The concert was beyond words. We all had great seats thanks to the
generosity of various list members. In my case, I thank Alan Friedman,
who despite his aggressive desire for a vanilla milkshake at 2 a.m. is a
sweet soul. He convinced me to stay for Bob, and he was right. Dylan was
spectacular, and I would have foolishly missed something wonderful. You,
too, simon, were right. Billy and Roy were so generous to open their
home to all we Joni nuts. Surely there could have been an ax murderer
among us! And earth mother Julie took right over the pizza ordering to
make sure her children were well fed. Sherrie and Cindy took this
stranger to their hearts immediately and I gained two lovely new
friends. They could not have made me feel more welcome. Even Mister
Kitty purred for me. I wish I would have know Meriweather was at the
concert. Would have loved to meet him. Friday night at Sherrie and
Cindy's was great. I worried some might chat during the PPV. Not to
worry. Only the gobbling of the veggie chili was heard. And applause, of
course. Got to know Barbara and Patrick even more chatting afterwards.
Patrick, lively and charming, as always. And Barbara is one smart lady
folks. AND a huge Jeff Buckley fan, like me. Saturday, museums, shows,
tooling around with that Southern gent Bob Hanna (sorry boys and girls,
he's attached), long time lister Janet Hess was a surprise gift, bright
and gentle hearted Michael Yarborough, the chicly styled Julie, and
definitely-not-henpecked Jon Webb. The Ethiopian dinner was a communal
event arranged by way too knowing beyond his years Michael. Shane is a
first class charmer and opened his abode along with Michael to the
"out-of-towners." We shared music, including the faboo Rufus Wainwright.
Too bad Michael caught me trying to steal away his autographed copy.
Julie, Jon, and I chatted endlessly on our Night Ride home to Sherrie
and Cindy who had so kindly waited up for this Joni reveler. Then back
home to sunny (and warm) St. Pete the next morning, Sherrie never
complaining about the early hour. Many phone number and addresses were
exchanged, and, I'm sure, life time friendships. Thanks to Julie and
Sherrie for insisting I join you all, and I'm glad I turned out to be
other than the serious academician you expected!!
Jerry
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:08:29 -0500
From: Marsha
Subject: Re: Meeting Joni
Kakki wrote:
>
> Who would have thought when they joined this list that they would ever get
> to actually meet Joni as a result of the collective enthusiasm and
> connections made here? I know it is really the topping on the proverbial
> cake for so many for whom her music means so much in their lives. She is
> also an inspiration to many of us on so many levels. I know that feeling of
> being able to finally express to her your admiration and gratitude in a
> personal way. It is a wonderful experience, plain and simple.
This sums up in a most elemental and elegant way what the
jmdl has meant to me and meeting over 50 of you these 18
months I have been a part of the Joni community. Thanks,
Kakki, for your generosity of spirit AND behavior for
the love of Joni's music. We had great moments in Southern
California last spring for the first live Joni events,
due to all your efforts for us.
Thanks, too to: Julie, Terry M, Mark of Seattle, Kenny, Evian,
Tom (TwinKing), Marilyn, Karen Mc, Laurie (you should have
joined us!), Robert (missed you too for the "moment"),
Catherine T, SusanLA C, and Winfried, who have responded
positively to our good fortune in Atlanta on Saturday for
Joni's Birthday.
I think of all the congrats and good wishes and encouragement
I have sent out to folks planning events that involve get-togethers
with other list members and efforts to see Joni on and off the
stage these past months, and I can't help but think
"Karma begets Karma"...
So when all the negativistic and "I am so jealous" or the
"how gauche", or "how silly" remarks trickle down like
lead ballons on our little list here, I'll just smile,
remember KARMA...listen to Joni's profound words and music,
gaze happily at my photo of Joni and me cheek to cheek along
with all my valued Joni memorabilia and will quite vocally
continue to encourage all the folks here with
tried and true love of what Joni Mitchell has done to enrich
and enhance our lives for 30 years.
Isn't this list great?
Isn't she SIQUOMB?
Yes.
Marsha, traveling in some vehicle, sitting in some cafe
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:10:03 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums
In a message dated 11/9/98 9:29:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes:
<< Hejira NRH, TI, STAS, are all dark winter albums for me. the rest are all
summery, although WTRF is spring. >>
Night Ride Home is about a ride back on the Fourth of July. Still, I think the
rest of it leans more toward autumn than summer or winter.
STAS to me is definitely NOT a dark winter album, more like spring or
summer.
WTRF and For The Roses are spring albums in my ear, though WTRF also could
be summer.
How could Hissing of Summer Lawns be anything BUT a summer album? "Heat
waves on the runway"... "Hissing of Summer Lawns."...there are other
references.
Paul I
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:12:00 -0500 (EST)
From: bg26140@binghamton.edu
Subject: Joni on CBC
Hi all!
I saw the CBC airing of the PPV special, it was titled "Painting with
Words and Music", not "Comes Love", as (I think) was previously reported.
Even though it was only an hour long (less counting commercials), it was
so excellent! I loved how, at the beginning, she ran out to the stage
after doing the latest touches on her latest painting. It was exciting to
see her painting, I thought. Here are the songs that were on the CBC show
(this is from memory):
Big Yellow Taxi
Comes Love
Amelia
Hejira
Sex Kills
Why Do Fools Fall in Love?
The Magdelene Laundries
Woodstock
I think I got them right! Hejira was my favorite; I loved her explanation
of the how she came upon that name. The "j" always stood out to me too.
And I've used that word hundreds of times--I perplexed a high school
English teacher when I used it in a poem! And I was happy to see her
finally get that trophy from The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It was such
a wonderful show; I couldn't tear the smile from my face!!
Eric
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:31:37 EST
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums
Howard Wright's ... : )
> Oh cool! I've been wanting to talk about this for a while! Many of Joni's
> albums have really strong associations with the seasons for me. Mark
> already mentioned Hejira as a winter album - can anyone *not* agree with
> this ?!?!?
Yes.
"I fell in with some drifters / Cast upon a beach town"
Hejira has always been a summer album for me. When I discovered the album (my
first Joni) in 1977, I was 18 years old, attending Air Force radar repair
school, and spending my first summer away from home playing on the beach in
Biloxi, Mississippi -- a place where you could actually find Winn-Dixie cold
cuts.
"The nets were overflowing / In the Gulf of Mexico"
I listened Hejira hundreds of times that summer. Because of the album I met
one of my lifelong best friends, who at 22 already had her pilot's license and
shared my fascination for Amelia Earhart. "Strange Boy" already reminded me
of my brother even though he had not yet joined the Navy -- and no one
skateboards through midday sidewalk traffic in winter.
"Refuge Of The Roads," one of my favorites in all of life, is definitely a
summer song with lyrics like:
"I pulled off into a forest / Crickets clicking in the ferns"
"In a highway service station / Over the month of June"
So even though most of the album cover definitely says "winter," Hejira will
always be a summer album for me.
And there is always that June bride to consider ...
Lori
San Antonio
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:33:24 +0100
From: M.Russell@iaea.org
Subject: JMDL Cookbook Project - Submit your recipes, please! (NJC)
Dear everyone!
So far I have received a total of only four recipes!!!! We need to get
going on this if it is going to happen. Here is most of what I sent to
JMDL last Wednesday:
I would like everyone to submit at least one and not more than two
recipes - a favorite savory and/or a favorite sweet recipe. The
category Savories includes appetizers, main dishes, vegetables, salads,
breads, etc., and Sweets includes any kind of dessert, candy, cookies,
cakes, etc. Recipes for homemade soap or candles or potpourri or
massage oil or ????? may be substituted. If you only have a favorite
savory recipe, then don't go to a lot of effort to find a sweet one.
I'm asking for one of each in order to avoid a dessert recipe cookbook
because Joni seems to be avoiding sweets and probably would not use a
cookbook of desserts very often. (In Detroit she mentioned that she had
been working out in her room and that sweet things go right to her
waistline.)
I will use at least one recipe from every person. I will make my
choices based on how many recipes I receive and what kinds of recipes
are submitted. If I decide not to use one of your recipes, I will
inform you.
For submitting your recipe(s), please follow these directions:
1. Please use only one email message, even if you are sending more than
one recipe.
2. Put JMDL Recipe in the subject line.
3. Address your recipe(s) to m.russell@iaea.org
4. Submit at least one and not more than two recipes. Choose savory
over sweet if you have a choice.
5. When choosing your recipe(s), please choose *favorite(s)* -
something you have tried and would be willing to eat for the rest of
your life if you became stranded on a desert island.
6. If possible, name your recipe(s) after a Joni song title or lyric.
Submission deadline is 11:59 p.m. (USA west coast time), Wednesday,
November 18.
Marian
Vienna
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:42:05 EST
From: IVPAUL42@aol.com
Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums
In a message dated 11/9/98 11:33:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, LRFye@aol.com
writes:
<< Mark
> already mentioned Hejira as a winter album - can anyone *not* agree with
> this ?!?!?
Yes.
"I fell in with some drifters / Cast upon a beach town"
Hejira has always been a summer album for me. When I discovered the album
(my
first Joni) in 1977, I was 18 years old, attending Air Force radar repair
school, and spending my first summer away from home playing on the beach in
Biloxi, Mississippi -- a place where you could actually find Winn-Dixie cold
cuts.
"The nets were overflowing / In the Gulf of Mexico"
I listened Hejira hundreds of times that summer. Because of the album I met
one of my lifelong best friends, who at 22 already had her pilot's license
and
shared my fascination for Amelia Earhart. "Strange Boy" already reminded me
of my brother even though he had not yet joined the Navy -- and no one
skateboards through midday sidewalk traffic in winter.
"Refuge Of The Roads," one of my favorites in all of life, is definitely a
summer song with lyrics like:
"I pulled off into a forest / Crickets clicking in the ferns"
"In a highway service station / Over the month of June"
So even though most of the album cover definitely says "winter," Hejira will
always be a summer album for me.
>>
I think you miss the point, Lori.
It seems to me that Joni flees the "snow gathering like bolts of lace" and the
"white flags of winter chimneys waving truce against the moon" and even in
"Song for Sharon Bell" when she is iceskating chasing Golden Reggie.
So when she is "cast upon the beach town" it is still winter along the Gulf of
Mexico. Maybe it's better to describe Hejira as an album that spans all
seasons, from the frigid Herjira to the burning desert of Amelia and the
springlike renewal in Refuge of the Roads.
Paul I
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:10:28 -0500
From: "M & C Urbanski"
Subject: Re: PPV fare(Implied JC)
- ----------
> From: John M. Lind
> To: joni@smoe.org
> Subject: PPV fare(Implied JC)
> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 9:45 AM
>
> Dianna Duncan wrote:
> >BTW, Deb, we ordered Chinese to eat along with Joni my living room.
>
> OK, just how in-tune was this dinner synchronicity? How many other PPV
> get-togethers had a "Chinese Cafe'" besides ours, and Diana's?
>
> John~
> NP "Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt" DJ Shadow
We didn't each Chinese but I did drink Irish beer and smoked Canadian cigs!
(picked these items up while in Toronto for the concert!).
Marilyn
I live in a box of paints
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:23:31 +0000
From: catman
Subject: Re: Summer/Winter albums
I took this thread to be about how we INDIVIDUALLY interpret these albums. i don't
give a bugger how anyone else does it, or that NRH was about 4th July or anything
else for that matter. what matters is that those albums make ME feel wintry. that
is all that counts.
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:50:45 -0500
From: "John M. Lind"
Subject: Joni's knitting story
Laura wrote:
>In regards to Joni's knitting story.......did I miss something?
I didn't get it.......can someone fill in my denseness, please?
I know a few others couldn't figure this out either but I think the woman's
statement about the stars was probably the inspiration for the Chorus:
We are *stardust*
We are golden...
And:
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Turning into *butterflies* above our nation
Probably came from the woman's obsession with her daughter not wanting
buterflies on the sleeves of her sweater.
Plus it was just a really good little story.
John~
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 05:13:32 -0500
From: "Julie Z. Webb"
Subject: Re: Atlanta Review/winter albums
At 10:17 PM 11/8/98 EST, RMuRocks wrote:
Bob I loved your description of meeting Joni, especially those lines below:
>" We assumed the
>same position, she again put her hand, the same hand that played all those
>guitar/dulcimer/piano chords, the same hand that wrote all of those words
that
>have shaped our lives"
Regarding the Summer/Winter Album thread:
And for me "Hejira" started out as a summer album: July 1976 on Tybee
Island near Savannah Georgia. I had just graduated from... Beaver... High
School in Pennsylvania, and spent some time at the shore with a friend.
(Her father, who was in the military, gave us a place to stay at the beach
for a graduation gift.) On the first day, we met two guys in a local
band---they were both home from college. Like us, they were away from
their sweethearts, so it was a compatible situation----We were all looking
for new romantic....opportunities. (18 is too young to be tied down to
one.) Our days were spent swimming and sunning while listening to Joni
(Hejira) and Michael Franks and maybe Barbara Striesand's "A Star Is Born."
On some nights we'd go to clubs to dance while the guys played. Or we'd
do the different folk clubs and cafes along the river in Savannah....and it
wasn't pouring rain. -JulieZW
ps. I remember the guys trying to turn us on to Dr. Demento albums. I'll
be sexist and say that appreciating Dr. D in a big way seemed to be
gender-based
pss. If anyone emailed me on Saturday and Sunday morning, I skipped over a
lot of my private emails and posts which were downloaded during my stay in
Virginia, and I am unable to retrieve them now that I am back home. So if
I haven't responded to your email, it's because I lost them.
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:01:15 +0100
From: "Winfried Hühn"
Subject: (NJC) Re: advices on how to handle info-flow ;-) ;-) ;-)
Morten wrote:
> well Winfried here comes a better late than never thank you very much for your very very excellent advices on how to get me out of my frustrations in my new life as a JMDL member.
>
>
>
> On Spitzbergen, you see, it's so freezing cold everyone must sit together very closely in their igloos and use their energy on talking to each other face to face and so on and this way warming each other up in stead of the more exciting way of talking to a computer/warming up computers! Big let-down: off-line conversations all the time and no computers/no JMDL on Spitzbergen!
> So therefore it wasn't any point in me staying there, so here I am, back home again!
>
>
HAHAHA!Oh, I see!
Hey, I've got a great idea to improve the "energy problem" you just outlined! Again, the answer is quite easy: "nuclear energy". Wouldn't the Russians be more than happy to replace their inefficient coal mines with a couple of nuclear reactors from their disbanding arctic submarine fleet -- the reactors being the only things in there still - sort of - working. The snow will melt down, and Spitsbergen will become the warmest
place in Europe! German tourists will take home incredible tans from their arctic cruises, so they won't have to go on a second vacation to the Mediterranean anymore...No more Germans infesting the Spanish shores, the Spaniards will be eternally grateful to you guys for this truly European solidarity, and in return they might even stop looting the arctic oceans with their illegally-equipped fish-trawlers!
I know there might be a few radiation problems for our continent, but hey, lately the weather has been really shitty here... maybe a bit of radiocativity will help this??? And of course, as we all know, the clock is ticking anyway...
The highly desirable overall result: Germans saving money, warmer weather temperatures in all of Europe, Spainards left in peace, and more fish to the Norwegians! Just gorgeous!
> "Winfried,
> who will send the legal consultation bill as soon as he passes his exams"
> :-)
>
> My economy is not at its best these days, so I sure hope it'll be some time before you pass your exams!
>
I'm sorry Morten. Sure as hell I'll graduate! I'll put in "JUSTICE IS JUST ICE" as the result of my casework and use "JONI MITCHELL NEVER LIES" as a backup argument!
Best,
Winfried
;-) ;-);-)
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:32 -0500
From: "Eric Taylor"
Subject: Re: CBC special
Evian wrote of Joni's CBC special:
>I was so disappointed that "facelift" and
>"crazy cries of love" were excluded.
I watched the Sunday night airing which included Facelift & Crazy Cries
(and they were fantastic). Is CBC showing three different edits of the
concert? The third airing is this Tuesday from 11pm-1am EST.
Comes Love knocked me out! Classiest show I've ever has the pleasure to
see!
Just wish they would have included Slouching Towards Bethelehem in the
Sunday edit.
E.T.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:05:17 -0600
From: Mary Pitassi
Subject: Michael Stipe (NJC)
Hi, all: back after a brief (but *planned* this time! ;-)) vacation to
Virginia!
Howard M. wrote (and then Michael Yarbrough answered him):
"<<>>
This is so weird; I just had this conversation with Jerry Notaro last
night. Michael Stipe IS out--he came out in a cover story in
(appropriately enough) _Out_ magazine as being sexually attracted
to members of both genders. He recently reinforced his outness in
an interview w/ MTV re: Matthew Shepard where he said
something to the effect that even when pop culture celebs like
himself and Ellen DeGeneres achieve acceptance that homophobia
still exists in everyday America."
Mary now. Actually, by my own definition of the word, Michael Stipe has
been "out" for at least four years. Reviews in several mainstream, national
newspapers (one of which, I'm pretty sure, was _Newsweek_) from the fall of
1994, coinciding with the release of R.E.M.'s "Monster" album, included
quotes from Stipe clearly and unambiguously portraying himself as attracted
to members of both genders. Stipe indicated that he didn't wish to
categorize his sexuality one way or the other, and made the memorable
statement, "labels are for food, not people." He has since, apparently,
refused to even "label" himself bisexual. However, he's been quite open
during this period of time about where his attractions run, and the
implications from the articles I've read are that indeed, he's had
relationships with both men and women. And, although I do respect his
desire not to label, it also seems clear that, in the common usage of the
term, many would consider Stipe bisexual.
This brings up something of a pet peeve. I've noticed a tendency among
certain individuals identifying as either "gay" or "straight," not to
mention certain self-described "gay and lesbian" magazines (_The Advocate_
springs immediately to mind) to regard a person as not having "come out"
unless he or she identifies as gay or lesbian *only*--anything else is
regarded as a self-delusion, or as having one foot in the closet. And I
don't deny that may well be true in some cases. But in others--and I
suspect Michael Stipe falls into this group--the person in question may
simply have already "come out" as having whatever sexuality resonates most
deeply in his or her own life, based on experience and/or reflection. Stipe
*is* out. Unfortunately, some wish to deny the validity or even the
existence of the identity he has claimed for himself, unlabeled and all.
I am NOT saying that either Howard or Michael Y. made statements to this
effect. In fact, I much appreciated the fact that they didn't. However,
_The Advocate_ has, and about Stipe personally, within the past four years.
_The Advocate_ has also, within the same time period, insisted on
categorizing musician Michael Fierstein and author Camille Paglia as "gay"
and "lesbian" respectively, even though their histories, comments, and
refusal to categorize themselves at or near the time of the interview would
seem to indicate a somewhat different identity.
Off my soapbox now (but cognizant that there may be many shades between even
blue and indigo),
Mary P.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:15 EST
From: TerryM2442@aol.com
Subject: Re: Atlanta Review
In a message dated 11/9/98 9:25:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mann@chicagonet.net writes:
<< It is so wonderful
to hear these accounts of her making eye contact and
taking the time to chat with everyone, signing
autographs...taking pictures..realizing how important
it is for us "regular" folk/fans to be able to have this
part of her. >>
Laura,
I loved Bob's Adventures In Atlanta as well. I was glued to those reports!
I get the feeling, too, that Joni needs to know that we're out here,
supporting her work and appreciating her. When we met, she was very sincere
and kind. She had more than one opportunity to shrug us off and leave, but she
insisted on staying and chatting. She is so sensitive at how her audience
responds to her during her concerts, I'd think she'd be thrilled to know that
she is, indeed, adored.
Terry
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:35:29 -0500
From: "Barbara Burst"
Subject: joni on charlie rose!
This promises to be interesting - probably an hour long interview (if
not, a 1/2 hr)! Thursday night on PBS.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:25:51 EST
From: MHart16164@aol.com
Subject: PPV 11/6 Review (SJC)
Got the PPV Friday night. I spent a good 1-hour hooking up my stereo to my
television, programming my VCR, checking to see if I could record and tape,
etc. It all came together and it started.
I like the concept of her round stage--symbolizing No., So., E., and W.; mind
and spirit; heart and body. I don't remember it right off the top of my head
in complete detail but it was a neat idea.
Before I embark into a long-winded dissection of her performance, I'll stop
myself and say this. Her renditions of "Crazy Cries of Love" and "Happiness
is the Best Facelift" were WONDERFUL. I don't think I truly appreciated these
songs till Friday--now they are indelible memories for me. "Trouble Man" was
great and showed her ability as a singer. And I loved her imitation of Bob
Dylan in BYT. She told this story about some lady with "orange hair and
British teeth". The last line of the story tells about her (the lady not JM)
going out on the balcony and looking at the stars. She says something like
"Jesus Christ Jack, look at those stars." When the PPV was over I had a
similar sentiment. Jesus Christ, Joni Mitchell is really something. Make you
weep, make you laugh, make your synapses scream with connection, make you jump
for joy, make you die to share, share, share.
- -Michele in New Orleans
NP:taped version of Friday's deal, painting with words and music
just like this train
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:31:28 -0800
From: Phyliss Ward
Subject: Cookbook technical difficulties
Marian - I keep getting my recipes returned as undeliverable. Please
post your address again. I have m.russell@iaea.org Is this correct?
- --
Phyliss
pward@lightspeed.net
http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:56:01 EST
From: Denisongs@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni's knitting story
In a message dated 98-11-09 12:58:22 EST, you write:
<< I know a few others couldn't figure this out either but I think the woman's
statement about the stars was probably the inspiration for the Chorus:
We are *stardust*
We are golden...
And:
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Turning into *butterflies* above our nation
Probably came from the woman's obsession with her daughter not wanting
buterflies on the sleeves of her sweater. >>
When I listened to the story, I thought it was a much more recent incident
than Woodstock. Maybe I missed a beat too. I think sometimes Joni just likes
to tell stories, especially when she can play out the characters. ......D
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:35:40 EST
From: Dreamzvill@aol.com
Subject: Re: Emmakitty(NJC)
Deb -
I am so sorry about your kitty. I love cats (I think a fair number of us
here do...am I right, jonifolks?). I hope she was able to be with you for a
long happy time. I have lost so many dear friends, both human and feline. It
doesn't ever really get any easier. But what was that someone said about, we
are not measured by how much we are loved, but how much we love others?
(Goodness, I'm pretty sure that's a quote from "The Wizard of Oz"! :)
Let me tell you about my kitties - I have Dusty (dilute tabby-calico mix)
who is the grande dame of the bunch - 8 years old, as grumpy and nervous as
they come. But she loves me unconditionally. Then there's Chewie (lovely
medium-longhair Himalan mix) - he is on Life #3, having almost died by
poisoning (he ate an Extra-Strength Tylenol), and by a mystery accident (I
found him in our backyard one morning with a major concussion and never knew
what caused it, but have 2 theories - Horse and Coyote). Chewie is a little
"off" now, but it just increases his charm. Sometimes he just seems to forget
where he's going. Finally, there's Shadow - the most perfect and beautiful cat
(I know, I know, it's all subjective!). She is pure black, and it's not just
fur; it's more like some kind of exotic pelt, like a cross between seal and
mink. She grew up hanging around with our dog (she would bring Snoop gophers
she had caught; Snoop would dutifully eat them...urgh!) so will follow you
around like - a dog! I'd told my son if I had a spare million bucks, I'd clone
Shadow, so we both could have one of her, since she lived with him at his
dad's house. But just got the good news he's moving in with us, so I won't
have to do any cat-cloning, after all.
Just wanted to let you know someone out there cares. A big hug to you....
Love, Susan Crawford
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:02:32 EST
From: Dreamzvill@aol.com
Subject: Re: Atlanta Review (Conclusion)
Dearest Bob -
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Susan C.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:11:45 +0100 (CET)
From: cco@xs4all.nl
Subject: Una cassa di te (A Case Of You)
Thomas asked for the Italian version of A Case Of You, so here it is.
Ciao!
Monica
Una cassa di te
Un attimo prima che il nostro amore svanisse
tu dicesti
"Sono un punto fermo come la stella polare"
E io, "Fermo nell'oscurità
Sì, ma dove?
Se mi vuoi sono al bar"
Sul retro di un sottobicchiere
Alla luce azzurrognola dello schermo televisivo
Ho disegnato la cartina del Canada
Oh, Canada
E su di essa due volte il tuo profilo
Oh, sei nel mio sangue come vino consacrato
Dal gusto aspro e dolce insieme
Oh, potrei bermene una cassa, caro
E rimarrei ancora in piedi
Rimarrei ancora in piedi
Oh, sono una pittrice solitaria
In una scatola di colori
Il diavolo mi fa paura
Ma sono attratta da chi non lo teme
Ricordo quando mi dicesti, un giorno
"L'amore sono anime che si toccano"
Be', certo hai toccato la mia
Perché sei una parte di me che fluisce al di fuori
In questi versi, di tanto in tanto
Oh, sei nel mio sangue come vino consacrato
Dal gusto aspro e dolce insieme
Oh, potrei bermene una cassa, caro
E rimarrei ancora in piedi
Rimarrei ancora in piedi
Ho incontrato una donna
Aveva la tua stessa bocca
Conosceva la tua vita
Sapeva dei tuoi demoni e delle tue gesta
Mi disse, "Vai da lui, stai con lui se
puoi
Ma sii pronta a versare sangue"
Ma tu sei nel mio sangue
Sei il mio vino consacrato
Dal gusto aspro e dolce insieme
Oh, potrei bermene una cassa, caro
E rimarrei ancora in piedi
Rimarrei ancora in piedi
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:14:32 EST
From: MDESTE1@aol.com
Subject: SF EXAMINER MAGAZINE JONI ARTICLE
I contacted a friend at the SF Examiner and managed to weasle 25 copies of the
Joni article edition. The pictures alone are worth the entire effort to obtain
one. Joni is looking absolutely elegant in he surroundings. If you want one
simply send me your address. First come first served. Ashara and Julie Z.Webb
are getting copies because they threw the joniparties. That leaves 23. peace.
marcel deste.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:17:19 EST
From: Dreamzvill@aol.com
Subject: Re: lefty/righty thus far (NJC)
Hey all-
Had anyone seen The View w/ Barbara Walters the other day, in which someone
was talking about a book on depression/anxiety treatment called "Goggle
Therapy" It explained the theory of anxiety impulses being in either your
right or left brain (not sure if handedness played a part or not), and that
you can balance it somehow by wearing goggles a few minutes a day with either
the left or right side blacked out.
Curious about this...but guess what, they never mentioned the author's
name!
cheers, susan c.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:20:01 -0800
From: Mary Grace Valentinsson
Subject: MSG concert in "New York"
I read this every week as if I'm gonna pop off 3,000 miles. Maybe.
Anyhow, in the 11/2 issue, the blurb for the 11/1 concert, (go figure
what with the dating), it says:
".....Mitchell's got a new, new album, (taming the tiger), that's not quite
the masterpiece that one might have hoped for. Still, it's a credible effort
despite the occasional, Sting-esque soprano sax squiggle. (MG sez
"HUH?") Live, the inspiration for "Tangled Up in Blue" is as earthy, moving
and rock-solid as you could want her to be."
So, this is new. I never knew that JM was the inspiration for "Tangled Up
in Blue."
Whadda ya say, gang?
MG
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 98 20:24:51 GMT
From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)
Subject: Re: Joni's knitting story
Wow, cool that you were able to extract a couple of the things she said and
find a place for them in the Woodstock lyrics!
But I could swear that she said that the conversation with this woman took
place *after* the breakup of the canyon scene (Crosby went this way, Nash went
that way, Neil Young and Elliott Roberts went to San Francisco, and she went to
British Columbia).
In which case she had already written Woodstock, released on Ladies Of The
Canyon.
Me, I don't have a clue what the *point* of her story was. Not sure there was
one, she's a great storyteller and likes telling stories, used to tell stories
during her late 60s and early 70s concerts (which I didn't have the pleasure of
witnessing but have heard on tape trees).
She told a couple of stories at the Gene Autry Museum concert too, not too long
ago. Maybe it has something to do with being in an intimate setting, or the
fact that she doesn't have the same time restrictions placed on her as she does
as part of a multi-act arena show.
-Kenny
On 11/9/98 "John M. Lind" wrote:
I know a few others couldn't figure this out either but I think the woman's
statement about the stars was probably the inspiration for the Chorus:
We are *stardust*
We are golden...
And:
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Turning into *butterflies* above our nation
Probably came from the woman's obsession with her daughter not wanting
buterflies on the sleeves of her sweater.
Plus it was just a really good little story.
John~
Laura wrote:
>In regards to Joni's knitting story.......did I miss something?
I didn't get it.......can someone fill in my denseness, please?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:24:30 -0500
From: "742 - Ainsworth, Cheryl A"
Subject: AJC-comments on the Atlanta Heckler
Well the "heckler" made the news today in Atlanta. Unfortunately, we sat 2
rows away from the guy(s) and everytime Joni pointed our way, I cringed. I
did not want to be recognized by her as being in that "group". Anyways, the
article just about repeats what was in the last JMDL. She abandoned the
introduction to The Magdalene Laundries and addressed the interruption, "I'm
not Bob" glaring into the darkness. "And you're an idiot and a rude idiot
at that!"
That's pretty much the way I remember it. Sorry I did not make it to
Einstein's. Had to wait on the central heat repair person to come by and
check it out. I am jealous of everyone who did see her up close and
personal. I was just happy enough to actually be in the same room with her.
I was disappointed in my "free" tickets. My seats were behind the speakers
(section 9). So instead we moved over to Heckler's Hell.
Still in awe from singing Happy Birthday to my fave artist.............
Cheryl
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:39:42 -0500
From: "John M. Lind"
Subject: Re: Joni's knitting story
At 08:24 PM 11/9/98 GMT, Kenny wrote:
>Wow, cool that you were able to extract a couple of the things she said and
>find a place for them in the Woodstock lyrics!
>
>But I could swear that she said that the conversation with this woman took
>place *after* the breakup of the canyon scene (Crosby went this way, Nash
went
>that way, Neil Young and Elliott Roberts went to San Francisco, and she
went to
>British Columbia).
>
>In which case she had already written Woodstock, released on Ladies Of The
>Canyon.
I'll have to re watch the special tonight if I get a chance, but I'm pretty
sure that she said she had only written part of the song when she went on
the retreat. I agree that she's a great storyteller and I could listen to
her spin tales for hours wheather there was a point to any of them or not,
but it seems that when she's telling these stories(like the Roy Rodgers
stories from the Gene Autry Museum, or Saturday nights story about about
her childhood friend Sharon Bell) they have some relevance to the song that
follows. I can only assume that the encounter with this woman helped Joni
finish her song about not being able to go to the party. She seemed to push
"Butterflies" out with a stronger than usual emphasis after the story.
John~
NP "Soul Intro/The Chicken" Jaco(B-day concert)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:49:13 -0500
From: sherrie.good@chronicle.com
Subject: MD review to come
Bill D and I are working on our review of the MD show, and will send it to
Wally tomorrow. Julie is going to help us with her list of comments Joni
made between songs. I did send Wally a few digital still images of Joni,
and Bill and I have more to send him soon for the concert review pages. So
stay tuned.
Sherrie
still not quite awake from our JMDL trip to the Barnside Diner...
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:38:01 -0500 (EST)
From: John Lasater
Subject: Re: joni on charlie rose!
Okay, I'm a little biased (Charlie Rose is a fellow North Carolinian and
and fellow Duke alum,) but I am ecstatic about this. He's the perfect "TV
personality" to interview Joni- he's equally comfortable talking to artists,
opera singers, prime ministers, economists, political pundits,
academics, etc. etc. And the Charlie Rose show is unique, because there
aren't a lot of talk shows on broadcast TV (in the United States, at least)
that actually allow two people to have a conversation. No commercial
interruptions, no annoying sitcom stars, no monologues, no Ed MacMahon.
(I checked the Charlie Rose web page- there will be other guests, so Joni
won't get the full hour. The other people on Thursday are Tom Wolfe and
Kenneth Branagh. At least she's in good company)
The address is:
http://www.pbs.org/charlierose
Thanks for the info, Barbara...Can't wait to see this.
John
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Rachel Kramer Bussel
Subject: NJC: Advocate "outing"
I want to say that I agree with Mary P's comments re: being out 100%. The
Advocate a few years ago named Madonna "Sissy of the Year" for this
statement she made saying "I am not a lesbian..." I don't know the full
quote but they basically blasted her for that and said "how can she say
she's not a lesbian?" This totally baffled and angered me - so THE
ADVOCATE knows Madonna's identity and sexuality better than she does? To
me, they were implying that she is a "sissy" and therefore somehow
denigrating the movement for gay and lesbian rights and sexual freedom in
general, and for someone to be saying that about Madonna totally confounds
me and since then, I've been quite wary of purchasing The Advocate because
I feel like that magazine has this grand agenda that is all about putting
people into categories and NOT about recognizing people's right to make up
their own minds. I haven't read it yet, but my best friend keeps quoting
it to me, so I'll end this with a paraphrase of what Sandra Bernhard said
recently in OUT - "I'm not heterosexual. I'm not homosexual. I'm just
sexual."
:)
Rachel
rkb200@is5.nyu.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 07:04:12 -0500
From: "Julie Z. Webb"
Subject: Re: MD review to come
At 03:49 PM 11/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Bill D and I are working on our review of the MD show, and will send it to
>Wally tomorrow. Julie is going to help us with her list of comments Joni
>made between songs. I did send Wally a few digital still images of Joni,
>and Bill and I have more to send him soon for the concert review pages. So
>stay tuned.
Sherrie,
I just reviewed the notes I took of the concert and read Wally's concert
review page. (By the way Jmdlers, there are **many** reviews of the
concerts on Wally's site which were not posted here. Please check them out.
I love reading the various "layman's" reviews, because this is the first
time ever, that one is able to read a collection of "joe public's" personal
perspective of a concert.
One thing though, someone had written that they had seen what looked like
Donald standing with Kilauren at the side of the stage. Can anyone confirm
this siting? I was fairly observant and did not see anyone who looked like
Kilauren. I did see a dead ringer for a young Joni Mitchell, however.
There was a young woman, sitting around the 5th row center aisle, who was
frequently seen walking around the front of the stage before Joni came on.
She was tan, lean and tall with long, light brown hair, parted in the
middle. She must have been in her late twenties. She looked far more like
Joni than Kilauren does. (Who knows, maybe a relative?)
- -Julie
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:03 +500
From: "Kim Korman Brown"
Subject: (Fwd) Hurricane Relief - How to HELP NOW
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Thanks, and thanks for all the wonderful episodes of meeting
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God bless
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Siquomb, isn't she?