From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #430 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, October 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 430 Join the concert meet and greet lists by sending a message to any of these addresses: -Syracuse@jmdl.com Rochester@jmdl.com CollegePark@jmdl.com -Nashville@jmdl.com Atlanta@jmdl.com Chicago@jmdl.com -NewYork@jmdl.com Detroit@jmdl.com Toronto@jmdl.com -Indianapolis@jmdl.com Minneapolis@jmdl.com Kanata@jmdl.com ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Top Joni Picks [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Joni's art [TerryM2442@aol.com] RE: Joni's art [Brett Code ] Title track of TTT [Howard Motyl ] Re: Atlanta Tickets Now Available From bobdylan.com [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Joni's art [LRFye@aol.com] BDTS-tix for Chicago [Brad Fors ] Re: Joni's art ["M & C Urbanski" ] First Joni [catman ] TTT-strange thing [catman ] Favorites (JC) [picard3@webtv.net (Sherelle Smith)] Joni's 6 Best Studio Albums [Brian Gross ] music on tv NJC [BarBearUh ] Re: Joni's art ["Kakki" ] Re: Atlanta Tickets Now Available From bobdylan.com [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: favorite joni album vote [Mark or Travis ] Re: what's the best joni album ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Title track of TTT ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Joni's art [DKasc13293@aol.com] Re: Title track of TTT ["Eric Taylor" ] Final Birthday List Being Forwarded [Michael Paz ] Re: Final Birthday List Being Forwarded [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: best Joni albums [Seanapper@aol.com] Title track of TTT [Evian ] best joni album [paul ] DED [Evian ] local radio ironies [some millers ] Re: JM and Herbie [kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:24:07 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Top Joni Picks My favs: 1. Hejira/TI tie 2. FTR/C & S tie 3. Hissing/NRH tie 4. TTT, but inevitably will tie with one of the above soon 5. Blue Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:46:41 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's art In a message dated 10/21/98 4:01:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << Can't we safely say that most original works contain at least "some" elements of what has been done before? >> Good, or great art does often take from the past but then transcends it to another level that makes it totally original, using a language that hasn't been used in the same context as before. Good or great art doesn't have to be pretty, but it should make the viewer think. Some of the biggest names in art make the most god-awful paintings I've ever seen. Pretty colors, pretty brushstrokes, yes. But original, strong statements? IMHO only, Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:01:57 -0600 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: Joni's art I can't recall the website that Evian mentioned for the Group of Seven. I happen to know of one which contains quite a few reasonably-sized reproductions of their work. It's at www.tomthomson.org/g7frm.htm. I forget what happened with Emily Carr - she was not an original member of the Group of Seven, but later worked with them in some manner. Brett np: FTR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:59:06 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: Title track of TTT DonRowe wrote The liner notes on TTT are full of little surprises like this ... for instance, the consistent "peddle" steel guitar, which we all know is a pun. I'm going to listen more closely myself though, and see if I can hear bright-ly ... even so, I don't get the idea that Joni's trying to improve or correct anybody. *peddle* a pun? Huh? I don't get it and I ain't no dummy. It's sheer pretension--if it is indeed a pun . . . Let me in on the hilarious joke . . . And while I am here--I agree with most of what Mr. Wright said--however, the issue with the "kids these days" and "kids with the jitters in their legs, and those wide wide open stares"--I don't think these too equate. On "Just like this Train", it seems to be observation, without judgment--these are the sights and sounds of the train station--The station master, the fat man, etc. "kids these days" is judgment in a very judgmental song--and what I don't get about the song is--isn't she in the music industry? Is Joni, like Jane Siberry, selling her albums herself? Does Joni, like Ani DeFranco, have her own label? No, Joni continues to work within the system, the record biz, the industry--so she should either poop or shut up about it. A friend of mine read the NY Times article and thought "What a bitch!" And I thought, as I was reading it, she is such a downer, such a curmudgeon, and I *adore* her. She is not making new friends with the attitude . . . I know we have discussed this ad nauseum but the post about the posturing in the song reminded me of the incident. Howard M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:06:31 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Atlanta Tickets Now Available From bobdylan.com In a message dated 10/21/98 4:44:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, docnurse@voy.net writes: << Getting out the binoculars, (hey wait, the ex got the binoculars...shit) Marsha, off to the binocular store >> Hey, Marsha, don't buy just one binocular. Like pants, they usually come in pairs. ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:11:15 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's art Kakki wrote: > Can't we safely say that most original works contain at least "some" elements of what has been done before? True enough. Joni's current painting style seems to have a lot of Van Gogh influence, which is fine with me. I wonder if it can be said that Joni has created original guitar chords? Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:14:49 -0500 From: Brad Fors Subject: BDTS-tix for Chicago I e-mailed the BDTS and got this reply; Brad Fors wrote: > Dear sir or madame (will you read my book it took me years > to write, would you take a look?) > > We mailed in for tickets, on the mail in date, and haven't > received anything yet. Today is Tuesday, The show is Sunday, > and we wanted to leave Minneapolis, for Chicago, on > Saturday. At what point should I start worrying about my > tickets? > > Thank you, > Brad Fors >>Brad, Your order for Chicago was filled as follows: Floor Section 3, Row 14, Seats 11-12=2 tickets. Although you included enough money to have your tickets sent back via Priority Mail, we felt that there was not enough time to do that. So, your tickets will be at the United Center Will Call Box Office along with a refund check for the Priority Mail fee. Please bring a photo ID in order to pick up the tickets. We are sorry for the inconvenience. - -- Thank you and stay in touch! Steven & Kati Marcus Bob Dylan Ticket Sales c/o Eye Candy Promotions BDTS@levity.com http://www.well.com/user/smarcus/eyecandy.html<< O.K., my question is, if I hadn't e-mailed them, at what point were they going to inform me of my tickets being at will call. I did get a response from them in one day, so if you haven't seen your BDTS tickets yet, try e-mailing them at the above address. See you all on Sunday! Brad NP- Bob Dylan 'Time Out Of Mind' (Possibly his best record ever, not most important, but best) Imagine, to be in the record business for 37 years and to be able to put out something as good as anything you've ever done. Amazing! Does the well never run dry? let's hope not. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:10:44 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: Joni's art - ---------- > From: Kakki > To: M & C Urbanski ; PMcfad@aol.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Joni's art > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 3:48 PM > > Marilyn wrote: > > > However, my critique is this: Her style is very much > >impressionistic. It's been all said and > >done before. It's one thing to experiment with a style, it's another to > >create your own. > Kakki wrote: >Can't we safely say that most original works contain at least "some" elements of what has been > done before? > > Definitely! However, you take it further and expand on it. She has done so in her photography. My favorite artist is Kandinski. He was the first to paint a pure abstract. I experimented with that style and then made it my own by incorporating the canvases as an active part of the painting. Joni has greatly matured as an artist. In her paintings on TTT especially, you can see influences of Rousseau, Manet & Cezanne. Joni's early simplistic stuff was more unique than the paintings she producing now. Knowing Joni's history with art school, it seems to me she is perfectly happy to paint in the impressionistic style instead of creating a style all her own. This seems a bit strange to me since she paves her own paths in the music field. If she is that strong minded about not compromising her music and considers herself an artist first; then why isn't she paving a path in art? I know the struggle she went through with the art professors, been there done that. But when you're done you do what YOU want with what you've learned. Unfortunately the art professors would chew her apart if she painted this stuff in school. They'd push her farther. Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:26:27 +0100 From: catman Subject: First Joni My first Joni album was HOSL. I had heard The Jungle Line on the radio in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England in 75. I loved the album. I then bought her first few albums. Loved STAS and C&S but not the rest. I realised upon hearing C&S that in fact I had heard Joni before in English class at school in Alubury NWS Australia. Our teach was American. I din't like Hejira when it came out and stopped buying after DJRD which I considered at the time to be dreadful I then bought TI when it was realeased and also bought all her other albums on cd. I found I loved hejira, and her fiest few. Only like parts of DJRD, dislike Mingus, like WTRF, ove DED,CMIAR does little for me, NRH and TI are superb for me, and am now beginning to get into TTT. - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:27:31 +0100 From: catman Subject: TTT-strange thing Okay so I have said i don't like this album at all-it leaves me cold. Well a strange thing happened today or rather this evening. For the past few weeks, almost two months, I have felt more odd than usual-ill quite a lot and waking up with heartburn, which i never have before. have not felt like eating and felt ill and shaky. The last few days i have begun to feel extreme anger(for me who has always denied such feelings). Tonight I was in rage and feeling very shaky and scared that I might kill someone(no PMT). I got in the car and decided to listen to music. TTT is what came on. It all clicked into place! I started to relax and get into it! So now I don't feel I don't like it. I enjoyed it. Weird. well i guess it isn't but I can't quite articulate it. When TI came out I was grieving and it hit me straight away as brilliant and is still one og my fave Joni's. Not at all related-on cable right now is this truly awful US program which has sevral fdifferent people giveing all the 'gossip' about Hollywood stars etc. How slimy can you get. how do these people live with themselves? bw colin - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:43:59 -0400 (EDT) From: picard3@webtv.net (Sherelle Smith) Subject: Favorites (JC) Hi everyone! It's funny, but the same songs that Laurie likes least on TTT are two of my favorites. Those are My Best To You, and Stay In Touch. Of the two, Stay in Touch is my favorite so far. It's the one I sing over and over in my head. I think we are also divided among ourselves when it comes to Joni's individual styles within style. Very interesting. (The guy on Laugh In just popped into my head.. ha! Okay... what's his name?!!! I can't remember!!! Arte! Arte something!) Ahem... back to earth. I think because I was introduced to Joni through Court and Spark,, I am drawn to similiar sounds in her music. I like that softer, more acoustic side of Joni. I am almost as equally drawn to her Mingus side because I love the jazz style so much too. Because of this, my top two Joni albums are Shadows and Light, and Court and Spark. I flip flop so much about them, that I have to tie them in rank. Oh! I like Lead Ballon, except for the background vocals (le-le-lead lead ballon) I'm glad I'm not the only one who has to let Joni's new material grow on them. Great subject matter! Sherelle NP-Dog's breathing and sighing heavily so as to ascertain doggy treats! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Joni's 6 Best Studio Albums 1. Blue - Court And Spark - For The Roses 2. Hejira - Night Ride Home 3. Song To A Seagull - Clouds - Ladies Of The Canyon 4. Turbulent Indigo - Taming The Tiger 5. Hissing Of Summer Lawns - Don Juan's Reckless Daughter 6. Mingus - Wild Things Run Fast - Dog Eat Dog - Chalkmark In A Rainstorm Three of the four times I've seen her perform live rank right up there with my number ones: This past August at A Day In The Garden only 50 feet from her and August 1974 at Temple Music Fair on Friday night (TT7 was taped Saturday) and Summer 1983 at the Mann Music Center with the Persuasions The Spectrum (Philadelphia) show in 1977 was terrible. The acoustics in that hockey arena that night were awful beyond all forgiveness. May that particular sound engineer suffer for all eternity. Muy mucho Joni, Brian npimh: The real CCOL === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:53:39 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: music on tv NJC in circulation: pat metheny on sessions at west 54th lucinda williams on rosie tomorrow (thurs) medeski, martin & wood/holly cole - upcoming sessions at 54th this weekend barbara np: willie nelson, teatro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:58:35 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's art Brett wrote: > I can't recall the website that Evian mentioned for the Group of Seven. I happen to know of one which contains quite a few reasonably-sized reproductions of their work. It's at www.tomthomson.org/g7frm.htm. This is a different site than the one Evian mentioned but it is excellent and seems to contain more paintings. I thought I was actually viewing Joni's own work with several of them. I think she may be aiming to be inducted as the eighth member of the group! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:09:38 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Atlanta Tickets Now Available From bobdylan.com In a message dated 10/21/98 6:15:42 PM Central Daylight Time, IVPAUL42@aol.com writes: << Hey, Marsha, don't buy just one binocular. Like pants, they usually come in pairs. ;>) >> Otherwise, it's called a Monocular... Bob M, wondering if my kid's ViewMaster would work... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:25:21 -0700 From: Mark or Travis Subject: Re: favorite joni album vote PMcfad@aol.com wrote: > > i'm keeping track of all the votes that have come in. i am only using the top > 5 choices. let's keep it open until friday this week. I don't usually do these list/survey things but what the hell. 1. Court & Spark - my first Joni, purchased circa 74 or 75 when I was in college. After one or two listens all I could say was 'How does *she* know how *I* feel???' When I finally owned a CD player it was one of the very first disks I bought. It was also the only Joni available on cd at the time but it would have been the first I bought anyway. 2. Song to a Seagull - another purchase in college probably around 75. Lousy production & all this record soothes me in a way no other recording can although TTT is getting there. 3. Night Ride Home - taped a friend's soon after it's release cause I couldn't afford to buy it. I first heard it in Tower Records and immediately fell in love with the sound of it. Finally bought a used cd and just a year or so ago found the special limited edition with the photos in it at Future Shop & snatched it up. 4. Turbulent Indigo - bought it on sight the first time I saw it. I listened to it over & over again but had to put it away. My state of mind at the time just couldn't bear the darkness of it anymore. But I love it, I think it's brilliant. 5. Taming the Tiger - purchased through CD Now, I received it several days after its release and loved it on the very first listen. the rest aren't so easy... 6. Hissing of Summer Lawns - Joni steps into the stratosphere artistically 7. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - fascinating experiments - some beautiful results 8. Hejira - ok, it *is* brilliant but I still don't agree that it's her best 9. Blue - gut-wrenching & wonderful - 'A Case of You' is very near the top of my favorite Joni songs list 10. For the Roses - how can you not acknowledge 'Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire' and 'Woman of Heart & Mind' as brilliant? 11. Mingus - a collaborative effort that first got me thinking about jazz. I think as a whole it's beautiful. And 'The Wolf That Lives in Lindsay' is the best 'mood' piece she's ever done IMO. 12. Clouds - never cared for 'Roses Blue' or 'The Fiddle and the Drum' but then you've got 'That Song About the Midway', 'I Don't Know Where I Stand' & 'Gallery' so why complain? 13. Wild Things Run Fast - nothing wrong with it, it just never clicked like some of the others. Joni's live renditions of 'Moon at the Window' in the past year have been a real revelation - what a *great* song! 14. Ladies of the Canyon - it has some wonderful songs on it but helium-voice Joni is not my favorite Joni. But 'The Blue Boy', 'Real Good For Free', 'The Priest', 'Morning Morgantown' - does it get any better that that? 15. Dog Eat Dog - I agree that Joni's world view on this record was right on the mark and still very relevant today. The production is perfectly appropriate and all in all I think this is a great record. It's just not one that I choose to listen to very often. I believe this was the first Joni new release that was on cd. It was agony seeing the vinyl in the stores but making myself wait cause I wanted the cd. I like vinyl record albums and the covers were *so* much better than the cd booklets but once I went to cd, I never looked back... 16. Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm - Some great songs - 'The Tea Leaf Prophecy', 'The Beat of Black Wings', 'Snakes & Ladders' - some I can take or leave but this is probably my least favorite. Not to say I hate it. Joni hasn't made a record that I don't like. I just like some better than others and all the rest better than this one! If we were including the live records they would both be somewhere near the top. 'Miles of Aisles' aside from having some very fond memories connected with it has some of my favorite renditions on it, particularly the songs from 'Blue' (with the exception of the schlocky 'Carey') and 'For the Roses'. And I think 'Shadows & Light' - Joni with Pat Metheney, Jaco, Lyle Mays, Michael Brecker, Don Alias & the Persuasions - - is a fine recording of a dream concert. Wish I could have actually seen it. But the video & the recordings are a nice substitute. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:30:32 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorites (JC) In a message dated 10/21/98 8:46:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, picard3@webtv.net writes: << (The guy on Laugh In just popped into my head.. ha! Okay... what's his name?!!! I can't remember!!! Arte! Arte something!) Ahem... back to earth. >> Arte Johnson ahhem, would you like a Walnetto, little girl? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:52:04 -0700 From: Mark or Travis Subject: Re: Joni's art M & C Urbanski wrote: In her paintings on TTT especially, > you can see influences > of Rousseau, Manet & Cezanne. I'm no art expert so forgive me if this sounds laughably ignorant but does anybody else see a bit of Edward Hopper in the TTT paintings? Something about the painting of the man with the glasses and the bowl with the light bulb & the key...and also the one of the figure seated by the river bank and the city across the river... Just wondering... Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:39:58 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: what's the best joni album Marian wrote: >You can number this list from 1 through 17 if you want, but I >have a really hard time ranking them, because I feel like >there are distinct groups of equally good albums... ranking Shadows And Light dead last. As I ranked SAL my favorite, this just goes to show what a diverse following Joni has. The reason I think SAL & MOA should be included is that her renditions of In France They Kiss On Main Street, Amelia, Furry Sings The Blues, The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines, Woodstock & Blue sound a lot better live to me. And I adore both versions of Jericho. But I'm curious, Marian. Why did you leave TTT off your list? ;~O E.T. NP: TTT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:09:16 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Title track of TTT David Wright wrote: >I started to write my thoughts on the entire TTT album, but >I got caught up in writing about the only song on TTT I dislike -- >in fact, that makes me cringe more and more every time I hear it -- >the title track... I hate Joni's reactionary carping about today's >popular music (just as I hate it when she does it in interviews...) But don't you think Tiger Bones is some of her finest playing, David? And they really are the same song, minus the lyrics, aren't they? >..."Nice kitty kitty!" is just plain jarringly unsuccessful. I just love that line! It's been echoing through my brains all month while working & driving. Even though I really get into bjork, NIN, Dave Matthews, Radiohead, & the Toadies, 99% of pop music today is BORING! I'm glad someone of Joni's calibre has the guts to say it like it is so eloquently! E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:22:24 EDT From: DKasc13293@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's art I see more of the careful Hopper approach in the painting that graces the back of Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:24:52 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Title track of TTT Marsha wrote: >...does Joni's "improvement" of the old masters (like Yeats) extend >to correcting their grammar? (Does anyone really care that Blake >used an adjective instead of an adverb?) Or was that just a typo? I think it's poetic license in both cases. E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:35:47 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Final Birthday List Being Forwarded Here is the FINAL list of names signed up for the Birthday Card. These will be forwarded to Wally. Thanks to everyone for your cooperation and patience. Michael 3bunas@accessatlanta.com adelphot@bga.com amadden@bconnex.net artwear@ncweb.com Ashara@aol.com AzeemAK@aol.com b.a.currier@bham.ac.uk bamm_bamm@juno.com barbearuh@erols.com Barrylauri@aol.com BH1248@aol.com Bmcd@aol.com bokonon@texas.net briangross@rocketmail.com catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk Charstarl@aol.com codeb@duncanmccachen.com cspring@gs.verio.net daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us dduncan@ipa.net Denisongs@aol.com dlawson@westnet.com Dmascall@aol.com docnurse@voy.net donbvs@lightspeed.net dougoram@mail Drewdix@aol.com dvsclaud@worldnet.att.net evian@sk.sympatico.ca ewwtaylor@prodigy.net Fluke_s@email.msn.com FredNow@aol.com G.McNamara@bom.gov.au gerlad@mb.sympatico.ca Gertus@aol.com GIBBS.PHILLIP@a1.rio.maricopa.e ginny@anv.net h.gill@ugrad.unimelb.edu.au Harpua@revealed.net haw@ph.ed.ac.uk hz@famelon.demon.co.uk ignatzmouse2@yahoo.com IVPAUL42@aol.com j.pukkila@pp.inet.fi Jan201@aol.com JAWebster2@aol.com jdawson@igs.net jgyn@sfusd.k12.ca.us jill@opticalres.com jilllinn@hotmail.com jlamadoo@one.net jloeffler@datacomm.ch jml@amweaver.com john.p.miller@LMCO.COM johnsonjs@earthlink.net julie@isosys.com jzw@visint.com kakkib@att.net Kay_Ashley@ars.aon.com kbarnicle@ensr.com KCooper984@aol.com kevin_e_licht@email.whirlpool.c kg@ibm.net les@jmdl.com louis.lynch@wonderware.com LRFye@aol.com luvart@snet.net M.Russell@iaea.org Marilune@aol.com Mark-n-Travis@worldnet.att.net megg56@yahoo.com messling@enter.net mfeiring@online.no MGV1@valley-media.com MHart16164@aol.com michaelb@coolgold.com.au millers@albany.net naturegirrrl@hotmail.com notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu p.headon@net.ntl.com philipf@tinet.ie phy6pgk@phys-irc.novell.leeds.a PitassiM@WEAC.org pmeyer@ibm.net pward@lightspeed.net queenaim@email.msn.com rhollis@islandnet.com rkb200@is5.nyu.edu rnusca@globalserve.net rob.jordan@which.net Robbert@vansprang.demon.nl rogalski@umdnj.edu rwalker@erinet.com S Chininis@aol.com scam@freeway.net Seanapper@aol.com Simonis5@aol.com sirsurf@yahoo.com skindeep@hdo.net slarty@total.net sp@olympus.net steve@psitech.com> stevem@cruzio.com TerryM2442@aol.com TheFishPond@Prodigy.net tncturley@worldnet.att.net treadmill@centuryinter.net tunajon@aol.com twomey@clubi.ie wallyb@well.com Wallykai@interserver.com.ar whitlock@karmanos.org whuehn@stud.uni-goettingen.de WirlyPearl@aol.com wowpub@quake.net xhohx@earthlink.net yarn@cyberenet.net yarn@cybernet.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:47:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Musician Mag Phyllis wrote: "I seem to recall someone mentioning a great article on Joni in the recent Musician Magazine." Hi Phyllis- It was me that posted about Musician Mag. It's got some great fotos of her and the article is pretty cool. I got mine in the mail but it should be on stands now Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:04:54 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Final Birthday List Being Forwarded I want to make it clear I do NOT want my e-mail address on the card. My understanding was that we voted to list only our hometowns. Please just use "Jacksonville, Fla." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:58:34 EDT From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: Re: best Joni albums Well, I tried to rank the albums in order of preference and just could not do it; by the time I'd get halfway down the list, I'd start drawing arrows all over the place, adding an album here, removing an album there. I never did complete the list. So I'll just list my favorite and least favorite, since those two don't seem to change in rank minute-by-minute like the others do. Top of the list: Hejira Bottom of the list: Song to a Seagull Neil in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:34:47 -0600 From: Evian Subject: Title track of TTT You know, I haven't even had time lately to pick apart the lyrics of TTT, but I gotta tell y'all, the title track ANNOYS me... Not just the lyrics, since I probably don't even know half of them by heart yet, but just the whole damn song. It just rubs me the wrong way, kinda like "Reoccurring Dream" did on CMIARS. I love the album (I gotta really start saying cd, but old habits die hard) and I am one of the few who love "Lead Balloon", but the title song... not my cup of tea! Evian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:52:25 -0700 From: paul Subject: best joni album My ranking of albums varies depending on my mood, the season, the weather, how my love relationships are doing, etc. But, there are some very favorites which don't change a lot: 1. Hejira--this always amazes me. 2. Blue. 3. Miles of Aisles. 4. For the Roses. 5. Turbulent Indigo. 6. Wild Things Run Fast. 7. Court and Spark. 8. All the other wonderful albums. How can one really rank them? Paul M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:54:09 -0600 From: Evian Subject: DED Well, I was just going to post about why people don't like DED, but y'all beat me to it! I know I have harped about this album in the past, but HOT DAMN, IT IS BRILLIANT!!!! I can't say enough about it! True, maybe I love it for sentimental reasons, because it reminds me of being in high school, but wow-eeeee, it still gets to me more and more each time. And, when I saw the tape of Joni singing "Three Great Stimulants" on the Video Tape Tree, it totally opened my eyes to the song again (couldn't picture it before being played live without a whole crapload of synthesizers or whatever). Actually, I love the album partly because Joni dared to get into the whole synthesizer sound... I admit it, I LOVE all that 80's stuff out at the time of DED! I think that Thomas Dolby compliments her well. So, here is a challenge for all of you who hate the album... if you give it another shot (how about a weekly listen for a month or so) I will give STOS and Mingus one more chance? Hehehehhehehe! Cheers, Evian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:57:27 -0400 (EDT) From: some millers Subject: local radio ironies Howdy- Managed to finally get current with the digests... whew! Thanks to this list, I learned of the upcoming JM shows in time to score some decent seats in Syracuse. (Although I too had a less than perfect brush with Ticketmaster -- a few days later my credit card company called to inform me that someone else was using my credit card number. Turns out it was the lovely person who took my ticket order!) Anyway, wanted to share a little good news/bad news from my outpost on the local radio dial. Yesterday while listening to our local "progressive" radio station, WRPI (as in Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, NY), I was delighted to hear the "Jazz and" show open with JM's performance of "The Man I Love" from Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World" release. This was an amazing bit of synchronicity as I was planning on calling the station to request they play one of the two JM renditions on that recording. I immediately called the dj to thank her for playing Joni, and there was this long pause. I realized then that the dj didn't know that the song she had chosen to open her show with was being sung by JM. To her credit, she followed it up with JM's rendition of "Summertime" from the same release and alluded to the "embarressment of riches" of female vocalists presently available for her to draw upon in putting together her jazz oriented show. Now for the bad news. The same station, which is one of the few non-commercial options available in these parts, is yet to play a single cut from TTT. Even the host of their show titled "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire", which aired again this afternoon, has not brought this work forth yet! When he opened his show today talking of all the exciting new stuff he had lined-up I thought this might actually be the day. (Especially since I had called him up in the prior week to inform him of TTT's recent release and the announcement of two upcoming performances by JM within a 150 mile radius of the station!) Once he cued his first song, I immediately called-up to inquire if he would be including TTT in today's show. Again a long pause, with no real reply. I asked if the station had even received TTT yet, and he said he hadn't seen it. I suppose it's possible, though I suspect that it's more likely that the dj hadn't even made the effort to find it among their holdings. Guess I wouldn't mind so much if this guy hadn't titled his weekly program after one of our beloved JM's songs. Kind of makes you wonder "What happened to this place?" (Apologies to any lawyers or loansharks among us.) Buenas noches- Paul S. Bethlehem, NY ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 06:03:54 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: Re: JM and Herbie Hi Howard, I love the *enthusiasm* of your post! I've had Herbie Hancock's Gershwin's World for about a month now (took advantage of an advance order deal on the Verve website) -- and I too am in love with Joni's singing on that CD! Herbie himself put it well in a recent NPR interview: "She sounds like someone who's been singing only jazz all her life." What's funny is that one of the first times I really sat down and listened to "The Man I Love" -- on a Sarah Vaughn collection -- I told myself that I thought it would be a perfect song for Joni to sing, and for years, in my mind, I've "heard" Joni sing this song. Got to admit that when I heard the real thing it was worlds better than I'd ever imagined!!! What a treat -- just can't get enough of it!!!!! -Kenny hoping that she does this one live in NYC On 10/21/98 1:53PM, HDBfly@aol.com wrote: Sweet mothah of Je-sus! She sang the words "Someday he'll come along . . . and I got goosebumps. Good god! That voice--ravaged beautifully by smoke--is perfect on these songs. But the Man I Love. Oh, I found religion. I have this same reaction whenever I hear Dinah Washington sing Ain't Nobody's Business If I do. and now, Ms. Mitchell, she done outdone her bad self. Brothers and sisters, if you have not heard her sing this song--you run out and you get this CD and listen to perfection. Mama! Her voice--the way it strains, almost rasps--like a tenor sax or a clarinet. Baby, oh baby. Howard M NP: The Man I Love ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #430 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?