From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #423 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, October 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 423 Join the concert meet and greet lists by sending a message to any of these addresses: -Syracuse@jmdl.com Rochester@jmdl.com CollegePark@jmdl.com -Nashville@jmdl.com Atlanta@jmdl.com Chicago@jmdl.com -NewYork@jmdl.com Detroit@jmdl.com Toronto@jmdl.com -Indianapolis@jmdl.com Minneapolis@jmdl.com Kanata@jmdl.com ------- JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. 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[Mark or Travis ] NJC:Worried [catman ] inapropriate covers [bamm_bamm@juno.com (Liz Johnson)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:00:16 -0400 (EDT) From: pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito) Subject: Liking Clinton? (NJC) >One reason I like Bill Clinton is that he is the first president who is truly >comfortable working with gays and lesbians, people of color, women (no jokes >please) AND corporate America. Well, with all due respect to you, my fellow Joni-head: If BC is truly comfortable working with the aforementioned, it is comfort for his own motives and ambitions. Let's go to the video tape: He sold Lannie Guarnier AND Dr. Joycelyn Elders down the river after he used them both as black women "window dressing" (Sorry, I mixed my metaphors.) Then there's the "Don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" policy flip-flop on "out" gay people in the military. (There has been an increase in the number of gay service men/women discharged since this act.) And what happened to health care reform? We got more monopolization by HMO's. He also oversaw the demise of the New Deal. Clinton was quite comfortable bombing a Sudanese pharmacuetical plant, etc. - breaking international law as a bonus. But, the real BIG LIE is what his administration has done to civil liberties here and abroad with the Anti-terrorist act, as well as trade/tarif agreements that are indeed quite corperate friendly. (Still, this doesn't seem to be enough for the corperations, they want an even more weakened presidency, so they can more easily control Congress.) I don't give a damn what Clinton does sexually; without even trying, I've heard much more than I wanted to. If interested, this should keep you busy: http://www.wbaifree.org/letemtalk/ Click "Links" - Crimes of Mena (before he made it to Washington.) Basically, I'm offering that Clinton is no friend of freedom lovin' folk. Respectfully, Esquizito ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:24:33 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: For Matt For the past few days I have been searching for something to say about the senseless murder of Matthew Shepard and have been left utterly speachless. Someone once said that if you want to grasp the infinite then just contemplate the extent of human stupidity. How very true! Then I remembered something I read in a profound book by Jonathan Katz entitled Gay American History: "During the four hundred years documented here, American homosexuals were condemned to death by choking, burning, and drowning; they were executed, jailed, pilloried, fined, court-martialed, prostituted, fired, framed, blackmailed, disinherited, declared insane, driven to insanity, to suicide, murder, and self-hate, witch-hunted, entrapped, stereotyped, mocked, insulted, isolated, pitied, castigated, and despised. (They were also castrated, lobotomized, shock-treated, and psychoanalyzed, a history documented in Part II.) Homosexuals and their behavior were characterized by the terms 'abomonation,' 'crime against nature,' 'sin,' monster,' fairies,' 'bull dykes,' and 'perverts.' The vicious judgments such terms expressed were sometimes internalized by Lesbians and Gay men with varying results--from feelings of guilt and worthlessness, to trouble in relating to other homosexuals, to the most profound mental disturbances and antisocial behavior. External judgments internalized became self-oppression; reexternalized this might result in behavior destructive to the self and others. Heterosexual society conditioned homosexuals to act as the agents of their own destruction, to become victims of themselves. But always, finally, they were oppressed, situated in a society that outlawed and denied them. When simply working, living, and loving, homosexuals have been condemned to invisibility." This upset me even more until I remembered the words of Larry Kramer: "I belong to a culture that includes Proust, Henry James, Tchaikovsky, Cole Porter, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Alexander the Great, Michaelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Christopher Marlowe, Walt Whitman, Herman Melville, Tenessee Williams, Byron, E.M. Foster, Lorca, Auden, Francis Bacon, James Baldwin, Harry Stack Sullivan, John Maynard Keynes, Dag Hammerskjold.... These are not invisible men. Did you know that it was an openly gay Englishman who was responsible as any man for winning the Second World War? His name was Alan Turing and he cracked the German's Enigma code so the allies knew in advance what the Nazis were going to do--and when the war was over he committed suicide he was so hounded for being gay. Why don't they teach any of this in the schools? It's all there--all through history we've been there; but we have to claim it, and identify who was in it, and articulate what's in our minds and hearts and all our creative contributions to this earth. And until we do that, and until we organize ourselves block by neighborhood by city by state into a united visible community that fights back, we're doomed." Kramer left out dozens of history's most illustrious examples, including King James, who produced the Bible which homophobic fundamentalists use to spew their hatred. How these bible-belting bigots can overlook the fact the heterosexuality was the "original sin," or that hypocrisy is the only sin that the Gospel addresses, is beyond me. As a tribute to Matt, I wish Joni would put music to Michaelangelo breathtaking sonnet to Tommaso de' Cavalieri: "Why should I seek to ease intense desire with still more tears and windy words of grief, when heaven, or late or soon, sends no relief to souls whom love hath robed around with fire? Why must my aching heart to death aspire, when all must die? Nay, death beyond belief unto these eyes would be both sweet and brief, since in my sum of woes all joys expire! Therefore because I cannot shun the blow I rather seek, say who must rule my breast, gliding between her gladness and her woe. If only chains and bands can make me blest, no marvel if alone and bare I go an armed Knight's captive and slave confessed. From thy fair face I learn, O my loved lord, that which no mortal tongue can rightly say; the soul, imprisoned in her house of clay, holpen by thee to God hath often soared: and though the vulgar, vain, malignant horde attribute what their grosser wills obey, yet shall this fervent homage that I pay, this love, this faith, pure joys for us afford." CSN&Y recorded & released "Ohio" within weeks of the Kent State massacre. If you're listening, Joni, this is better advise than any producer could ever give you. E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:58:19 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Yet another TTT review--negative one BH1248 shared the the Louisville paper's review of TTT; in part: > This should serve as a warning for Mitchell's older fans to maybe stay away (unless they've become as dotty as she) Sorry, oh-reviewer-in-Louisville, but the more I listen to TTT, the more I like it. Dotty San Antonio NP: the hissing of cars in the early morning rain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:43:02 -0400 From: "Eric G. Postel" Subject: Joni in Musician In case it has not been mentioned already, the newest issue of Musician magazine has an eight page article/interview with Joni. Good article and nice pictures, now and old, of Joni wearing great smiles. E ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:02:36 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Bumpersticker How about Is Justice Just Ice? E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:09:43 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Have We Come Too Close? Don Rowe wrote: > Have we come too close? Are we no longer capable of listening in wonder? I'm have profound feelings of wonder and awe every time I listen to TTT ... as I've written before, every new Joni album is at first a disconcerting experience for me, and it takes me several listenings to "get into" the mood of it. The first night I heard TTT in its entirety, I was predictably nervous, as I always am: "Will I like it? What if I don't?" Joni is, after all, my musical idol and has been for 21+ years. But I kept my faith, and she has not let me down. OTOH, if I had felt "let down," perhaps it would've been my fault for not keeping an open enough mind. Thankfully that did not occur! MHart wrote: > One question out there...what song (if you could possibly pick one) by JM moved you (or anyone) first or the touched you the most??? First? No doubt it was Amelia, when I first heard it in 1977. Most? My memory for some other song may be failing me just now, but I really do think it's "Man From Mars." It absolutely TUGS at my heart everytime I hear it ... it's almost painful ... and you know, if it hadn't been for belong to the JMDL, I might not have known that Joni wrote the song about her cat ... and that he returned. Knowing those things makes hearing the song a little easier for me. I don't know what I would be doing otherwise ... probably I would be just wracked with dispair. I, too, heard some of the TTT songs prior to release. I have good memories associated with these first hearings. Last November I first heard "Facelift," shared by Craig (Happy The Man) during dinner with him and Neil in Austin. This summer I heard "Crazy Cries Of Love" and "No Apologies" at A Day In The Garden with three of my best friends and with many others from the JMDL nearby ... For me, those first hearings are happily recalled each time I hear the songs. Sometimes I think we do pick Joni's life apart too much for our -- or her -- own good. We're FANactics, though, a bit obsessed, a bit geeky, a bit weird perhaps. I'm not always comfortable examining Joni so closely, but the JMDL has brought me so much joy! Some days this list is aggravating, but it's still it's my hobby, my little obsession "That brings me things / I really can't give up just yet." Glad to be *here*, Dotty Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:17:49 -0300 From: "wallykai" Subject: I have come too close, I think Living in Argentina, I got less than minimal information about Joni Mitchell when I was starting to listen to her music and her words. Add to this the fact that I barely understood any English at all and you'll get the picture: I wouldn't have been able to take advantage of American publications even if they'd been available. I got bits and pieces from the local press; most of the material was archival and came in any old order. [I once sent copies of old Argentine reviews and articles to someone on the list, I forget who.] As a result, sometimes Joni Mitchell looked like a middle-aged woman, sometimes she looked like just a kid. Needless to say, there was no finding out how many albums she had already released, which ones were available, what they were called [you can't imagine how much confusion and anxiety the JM/STAS issue brought to my life as a teenager!!!]. Fortunately, there was a huge Joni following in Buenos Aires in the early 70's [before many of them were killed by the military for being young and wearing beards], and I could get Blue and Hejira and then the rest, painstakingly and randomly, depending on who was traveling, who had a friend working for an airline, who had the balls to smuggle something [that I was certainly drooling for!] in at the Midnight-Express-like Argentine airports in those days. Naturally, I never knew when there'd be a new release. My cosmic mission seemed to be to wait for the next or the latest or the first Joni Mitchell album. Meanwhile, I taught myself the language so that I could understand at first, and then go deeper into this miracle of meaningfulness that was Joni Mitchell. For some reason, I seemed to get all my new Joni records in late December, always a few days before or after my birthday. It was a joke among friends. You could tell there was some new Joni Mitchell in Argentina if you knew the date of my birthday. Joni, of the magnificent cheekbones and the diamond eyes. That was all I knew about her. Her music was a mystery, a THRILLER! You never knew what she would do to you come the next bar! Her words were THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE itself to me. And her words were also all these coyotes and marlenas and ediths and the bay of fundy. At night, while the rest of the country dreamed of a free land, I roamed into a free land of snowy winters and grand pianos, a land of MEANING in a meaningless world. Did I understand the true meaning of the word hejira in those days! Joni's music late at night was my hejira during the years it took me to become a man and kiss another man for the first time, to vote for the first time, to write my first song. Joni gave me everything and she never asked for anything in return. She gave me a second language, she gave me her songs -- and her songs gave me the meaning of what I felt but that I would never have been able to explain on my own. The year and a half I've been on the list has brought me information that I would never have dreamed could be so easily obtained, all thanks to the work of so many listers. The tapes gave me the opportunity of listening to a Joni even younger than that on STAS and to songs I never knew existed. And then the videos trees! To see Joni so young and beautiful hitting an impossibly high note on Chelsea Morning, her angry eyes [you're acting like tourists, man!!!]. Most importantly, I've found incredibly loving and understanding friends, when all I originally expected was a forum where I could discuss music and words. And yet, this time I've spent with you has been an end to innocence of sorts. It feels like I know Joni better now, but the truth is that this extreme close-up has made me know her less than ever. I don't regret having learned all the things that I have from the posts and the Page and the contributions of those that were REALLY close to her, and not just vicariously like me. But I'd sure like to be young again and just beginning to discover the world as told by Joni Mitchell. Such is the nature of learning: "something's lost and something's gained in living everyday." Will Joni eventually fade out of my life as unexpectedly as she came into it? Will I stop carrying her heritage in the songs that I write, or stop writing altogether? These are scary questions that I ask myself everyday. After all, everything, every friendship and love affair comes to an end, so why not my connection with Joni too? Or will Joni leave us first before we can leave her, like some lovers do sometimes? Maybe it's Joni that has come too close, in her case to the very essence of her art, her muse, and has decided she doesn't have much to say anymore. That happens sometimes too. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Holliston Subject: for Matt (NJC) Dear friends, I bet everyone on this list would give every painting of Van Gogh and Monet, every play of Shakespeare and O'Neill, every film by Bergman, every Mozart opera and every Joni Mitchell album, whatever, just to bring this poor boy back to life, and to his parents and friends. Nothing that we call culture is worth preserving if we can't take better care of each other. Last year, here in peaceful Victoria, a fourteen-year-old East Indian girl was beaten to death by her classmates because, as the lawyers defending her killers pointed out, she "tried too hard to fit in." Her attackers put cigarettes out on her. Reena Verk's photograph appeared in the newspaper every day, and the details of her murder were cold-bloodedly repeated. The most extraordinary and deeply moving thing I've ever seen on television was this: Reena Verk's grandmother embraced the parents of her granddaughter's killers outside the courtroom. This gesture of forgiveness was completely humbling to anyone who saw it. Otherwise the human race seems to be a sub-mediocrity with delusions of mediocrity. So many newspaper and magazine articles are speaking about Matthew Shepard as if he were a lesson to be learned, or an opportunity for legislation. God damn it, he was nothing of the kind - he was a person, and like all of us, he wanted to continue being a person. There is nothing anyone can do to bring this person back to life. His murder has debased us all. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:34:14 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: "A Case" In "Magic" Film At 11:05 PM 10/16/98 EDT, Lori wrote: > "the power OF women coming together," Jon and I saw "Practical Magic" last night, because of Lori's enthusiastic post, and I too found it charming, fun and sweet...I felt moved by it's message of sisterhood. (Made we want to host an all-girls "jmdl slumber party" because sometimes, ya know, we women can be our own worst enemies...) Nicole and Sandra looked way too ravishing and alluring-- to call the movie a "chick flick," a term I always found annoying, btw... Jon enjoyed the movie. Joni is heard singing, way too briefly a stanza or two of "A Case Of You" coming through on the radio as Nicole sings along while driving home--- (Although I caught Nick messing up on one of Joni's lyrics...did you catch that Lori?) The end of the movie, directed by Griffin Dunne, ends with songs by rock's eternal witch goddess, Stevie Nicks....how appropriate and funny! When did Halloween become an equally fun holiday for adults too? -JulieZW, on my way to the apple orchard on this golden sunny afternoon ps. Chloe Webb, from "Sid and Nancy" has the honors of delivering the funniest line in the whole movie. And I loved it that Mary Gross, former SNL player brings a dust buster instead of a broom to a meeting...... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: Re: Yet another TTT review--negative one >Kakki, well into her dotage with her cat Hey Kakki, does this mean I'm over the edge with my three cats??? And Bob, thanks so much for sending this one on. I have to admit that the following: >Artistically, Mitchell seems to have become the stereotypical crazy old >cat lady, self-absorbed, blurting out inanities. really had me thinking of Joni sitting in her rocker at the age of 92 with a cat on her lap and another around her neck. "Nice kitty kitty". What an image! Can we get this guy's address to mail him our response to his hilarious review of TTT? Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:30:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: Re: "A Case" In "Magic" Film Julie wrote: > The end of the movie, directed by Griffin Dunne, Griffin Dunne was in another movie (a black comedy) that featured Teri Garr playing Chelsea Morning to him in her apartment. What the heck was the name of that film? Ahhh it is driving me nuts! Was it After Hours??? Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:14:21 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: "A Case" In "Magic" Film yes, that is what it is called--After Hours. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:16:36 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Re: for Matt (NJC) Roberto, You said it all in this post. I am touched to the very bottom of my soul with your words. This killing has rocked me to the core, but the worst of it has been the behavior of those that continue this hatred by picketing Matthew's funeral. Roberto wrote: << Nothing that we call culture is worth preserving if we can't take better care of each other.>> I believe this to be true. If we all took responsibility to do everything in our power to prevent hatred of any kind, this world just might be a better place to exist in. The story that you told about Reena Verk's grandmother embracing the parents of her granddaughter's killers outside the courtroom, is an incredible example of this. Hugs, Ashara Dear friends, I bet everyone on this list would give every painting of Van Gogh and Monet, every play of Shakespeare and O'Neill, every film by Bergman, every Mozart opera and every Joni Mitchell album, whatever, just to bring this poor boy back to life, and to his parents and friends. Nothing that we call culture is worth preserving if we can't take better care of each other. Last year, here in peaceful Victoria, a fourteen-year-old East Indian girl was beaten to death by her classmates because, as the lawyers defending her killers pointed out, she "tried too hard to fit in." Her attackers put cigarettes out on her. Reena Verk's photograph appeared in the newspaper every day, and the details of her murder were cold-bloodedly repeated. The most extraordinary and deeply moving thing I've ever seen on television was this: Reena Verk's grandmother embraced the parents of her granddaughter's killers outside the courtroom. This gesture of forgiveness was completely humbling to anyone who saw it. Otherwise the human race seems to be a sub-mediocrity with delusions of mediocrity. So many newspaper and magazine articles are speaking about Matthew Shepard as if he were a lesson to be learned, or an opportunity for legislation. God damn it, he was nothing of the kind - he was a person, and like all of us, he wanted to continue being a person. There is nothing anyone can do to bring this person back to life. His murder has debased us all. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:05:56 -0700 From: Mark or Travis Subject: Re: Have We Come Too Close? LRFye@aol.com wrote: > > Don Rowe wrote: > > > Have we come too close? Are we no longer capable of listening in wonder? > > I'm have profound feelings of wonder and awe every time I listen to TTT ... as > I've written before, every new Joni album is at first a disconcerting > experience for me, and it takes me several listenings to "get into" the mood > of it. The first night I heard TTT in its entirety, I was predictably > nervous, as I always am: "Will I like it? What if I don't?" From the one or two listenings I gave to the few songs from TTT that were on the KCRW 'Morning Becomes Eclectic' tape, I was afraid I was not going to be too thrilled with this new album. I deliberately put that tape away and didn't listen to it again mainly because I wanted that sense of discovery when I finally got the finished product. I was pleasantly surprised. I did read everyone's review of TTT and was beginning to wonder if my first fears were going to be realized. But as I said before, I loved this record the very first time I heard it. > Sometimes I think we do pick Joni's life apart too much for our -- or her -- > own good. And I wonder if some of the complaints about Joni's recent harpings in the press didn't color some people's judgement when they finally got TTT. Add to that the fact that we had waited *so long* for this record and built up such a high level of expectation and there were bound to be some people who were disappointed. In some ways I wish we could wipe that all out so we would be better able to judge the record on it's own merits. I kind of feel that there was no way it was going to live up to what people were hoping for or expecting. Some days this list is aggravating, but it's > still it's my hobby, my little obsession "That brings me things / I really > can't give up just yet." > > Glad to be *here*, > > Dotty Lori > San Antonio You summed it up perfectly, Lori. Even though there are days when the list makes me crazy, I wouldn't want to be without it. This is the first time I ever knew the release date for one of Joni's records. Usually I discover them by surprise while shopping for cds. As someone else said, something's lost but something's gained. The info & cameraderie here are invaluable to me. Thank you all for your presence & being here and all that..... Mark in Seattle - the latest member of 'The Old Dolts Club' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:57:07 EDT From: Barrylauri@aol.com Subject: Concert ticket in Atlanta I just had the most frustrating morning trying to get tickets to the jm show at Georgia Tech. At l0 a.m. I started calling ticketmaster and after wasting 35 minutes not getting through I hopped into my car and headed over to Publix which is a ticketmaster outlet. After waiting in line for 20 minutes there, I was told the $60 seats were all sold out and they only had $40 seats left. After a short pause, I purchased the tickets but was livid that I had to settle for second best!!! Am I the only one who had a problem getting seats to this show??? And, how could 1000 seats be sold in less than 30 minutes???? Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:31:28 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: More Drummers In a message dated 10/16/98 11:04:04 PM, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net wrote: >More and more drummers are turning on to Joni. We had the extremely >talented Jason Marsalis on Jukebox last night (along with his dad, >Harold Batiste, Ed Anderson, etc.) and he played a smoking set. He >mentioned that he is really into Joni lately and will be picking up more >records this week. He also talked about all the drummers releasing >albums this year, including Brian. He has a new record out called "Year >of the Drummer", which I highly recommend. John and Allison Lind came by >the show and it was an honour to have them in our number. Hope everyone >has a wonderful fall weekend. Mrs. Paz and I are taking the boys camping >in Mississippi. Don't forget my favorite drummer/musician who's band has two albums out now (get them!), Dave Grohl. - -mariana NP: i've got a headache 'cos i hate my little sister so effin much ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:15:11 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Concert ticket in Atlanta In a message dated 10/17/98 2:18:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Barrylauri@aol.com writes: << Am I the only one who had a problem getting seats to this show??? And, how could 1000 seats be sold in less than 30 minutes???? >> I'm wondering if maybe the main floor seats were not put on sale to the public because they were reserved for Ga. Tech students or something like that. I got through by 10:15 to Ticketmaster, though I was serviced by an operator in Houston, not Atlanta, and there were no main-floor seats for sale. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:53:17 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Have We Come Too Close? Personally, i listen to everything purel;y on the basis of whetehr or not the music/singing pleases me. I care not what Joni thinks or how she behaves or what others think. I just don't particulaly like TTT. It isn't the first time. I don't particulalry like Mingus(actually i don't like it at all), FRT or CMIAR. Four albums out of 16 albums is not bad going. Of course there are songs I like on TTT CMIAR and FRT but as a whole these albums do little for me. I have listened to TTT many times now, about a dozen. To me it is flat, not particularly interesting and samey. Now that isn't because I am flawed or that the cd is flawed. It just ain't my cup of tea. Full stop. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:16:35 +0100 From: catman Subject: NJC:Worried I am worried. Every time I head for the freezer John leaves the room.... - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:31:04 -0700 From: bamm_bamm@juno.com (Liz Johnson) Subject: inapropriate covers I'm still behind in digests but I would not like to hear the Spice Girls do 'Love or Money'. Liz ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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