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JMDL Digest Monday, October 5 1998 Volume 03 : Number 396
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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Re: Seven Errors of Observation [Gellerray@aol.com]
Terry's dream from Digest #391 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ]
Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now [Gellerray@a]
Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now [ginny ]
Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now [pswmusic@in]
(NJC) private disputes [Michael Yarbrough ]
stephen holden (jc) [trxschwa ]
Stay In Touch [Leslie Mixon ]
Re: Janis & Joni [FredNow@aol.com]
TTT and Gas [Evan + Vanessa Thomson ]
My final posting ["Paul Roberts" ]
Washington Blade review [Michael Yarbrough ]
all apologies [Gellerray@aol.com]
Re: Joni was a member of The Mamas and Papas/ Lead Balloon [FredNow@aol.c]
Re: Janis & Joni & Q mag's appreciation of BOTH [FredNow@aol.com]
Re: JMHP/Liner Notes [FredNow@aol.com]
Re: Washington Blade review [pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito)]
Re: accolades and honors.... [Gellerray@aol.com]
Stuff [Wally Breese ]
Re: Washington Blade review [Gellerray@aol.com]
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:44:40 EDT
From: Gellerray@aol.com
Subject: Re: Seven Errors of Observation
touche deb, on each and every point.
ray
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 23:56:30 -0400
From: "Jim L'Hommedieu"
Subject: Terry's dream from Digest #391
Terry, you drempt that she was behind a wall at a concert. You poor
girl, you weren't at a Joni concert- it was Pink Floyd!
Terry M said,
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
As soon as I sat
down, though, I found a big wall right in front of my face- a black
wall-
obstructing most of the view. How depressing!
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- --
All in all you are all just bricks in the wall,
Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! **
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:47:29 EDT
From: Gellerray@aol.com
Subject: Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now
indeed chili, I agree with ashara--DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT LEAVING THE LIST.
Who is this guy and who does he think he is? What a nasty nasty man. Fuck
him!!!
ray
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 20:57:35 -0700
From: ginny
Subject: Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now
Chili -
Your comments sparked one of the most lively discussions I've seen for a
while. It drew me in, and I'm a dedicated lurker!
You would be missed.
Ginny
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:51:42 EDT
From: Chilihead2@aol.com
Subject: On being asked to leave
Hi David,
I will respect the wishes of the list. You have asked me to leave. If that is
the general consensus, I will. Your post was not kind it was mean spirited and
frankly I do not know why you would want to send it to me privately. Did you
think I would just obey your command and that would be the end of it? I have
made a number of friends here and perhaps some enemies but not intentionally.
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
I did not ask you to leave the list, nor would I ask anyone no matter what
they posted or how often. If you cannot extend that courtesy to me then that
is your problem. You don't have to read what I post. I am posting my message
to the list but not the communication you just sent to me.
- -Chili
PS. Who finds it amusing that he was asked to leave after his posts this week
which were somewhat controversial. I expected it and in fairness to me most of
my posts have Joni content especially my most recent ones.
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 21:12:13 -0700
From: ginny
Subject: Just in on Excite
Just caught this on the Entertainment Headlines:
Mitchell Disdains Role as Grand Dame of Female Singers
NEW YORK (Reuters) - For years, singer Joni Mitchell has been named as
the inspiration for a litany of women singers and songwriters. But the
soulful songstress tells the New York Times Magazine she finds that
description somewhat limiting. "One guy came up to me and said, 'You're
the best female
singer-songwriter in the world," Mitchell said. "I was thinking:
'What do you mean female? That's like saying you're the best
Mitchell's latest recording "Taming the Tiger" is described by
the Times as a jazz, rock and classical fusion album.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:20:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito)
Subject: Re: a request from David Marine for me to Leave the list now
>indeed chili, I agree with ashara--DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT LEAVING THE LIST.
>Who is this guy and who does he think he is? What a nasty nasty man. Fuck
>him!!!
Uh oh, here we go. Everybody chill. Please don't type anything that
you wouldn't be willing or able to say face to face.
"Happiness is the best face lift."
Esquizito
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:29:22 -0400
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: (NJC) private disputes
As a longtime friend of David's and a recent acquaintance of Chili's, I'm
fully confident that these two adult men are capable of handling any
disagreements they may have with each other or each others' opinions
on their own. I have no doubt that their intentions are good (and don't
fire any proverbs back at me! ;-) ). So count this as my early plea to
apply Kakki's advice re: Joni to this situation: let's not make uninformed
assumptions about context, and just leave it to the people involved.
A smiley face for good measure: :-)
- --Michael
NP: The Aluminum Group, _Plano_
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:33:28 -0400
From: trxschwa
Subject: stephen holden (jc)
from an article in today's times, about the new bacharach/costello project
and duncan sheik's new album. a few edits in the first para.
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'...an introspective folk-pop genre that includes 'five
leaves left', van morrison's 'astral weeks' and joni mitchell's 'hejira'
and more recently the music of seal along with
ferron's 'driver' and jane siberry's 'when i was a boy'. dreaming,
searching, contemplating love, time, change and desire, they reflect on the
evanesence of happiness and beauty in a world where everything contrives to
distract us and make us numb to the stirrings of the soul.
as for handing down lessons, these albums, with their heady philosophical
musings and shimmeringly textured sounds, lead us toward an emotional and
spiritual receptivity; they are musical oases where the soul can find
refreshment.
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i love a journalist with his heart on his sleeve
patrick
np - lotc
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 21:59:03 -0700
From: Leslie Mixon
Subject: Stay In Touch
I enjoy reading Mr. Chili's posts - I vote that he stays.
Leslie
Steve Mixon
http://www.cruzio.com/~stevem
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:42:18 EDT
From: FredNow@aol.com
Subject: Re: Janis & Joni
From: Chilihead2@aol.com:
>>PS. One of the items Janis is auctioning off is a concert in your living
>>room. The last one went for only $2500. Imagine Joni doing that? Doubt it!
She
>>bitched about being paid $450K for "A Day in the Garden".
Hey, hey, hey, now ... let's play fair. Joni didn't bitch about the bread
because she didn't think it was a good taste, she bitched because Pete
Townshend and Don Henley got $550k each, which is bogus, she's right.
- -Fred
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:53:38 +1000
From: Evan + Vanessa Thomson
Subject: TTT and Gas
I agree with Helen and Michael,
It's definitely no fun having freezing cold showers, microwaved
vegetables, a Liberal government(my prejudice there) and no TTT!! I've
been to C&C Music, Sanity etc and each time you ask for Joni, the main
expression that greets my polite request is one of incomprehension!! I
feel 'old' as the so called X Generation purchase their latest chart
topping., contrived, media friendly 'all girl' or 'all boy' group's
music and I shudder as they gaze at me blankly as I ask where the Joni
Mitchell section is and all I find is "Blue'!!
I 'assumed' I'd pay near $30.00 for TTT. That's the way it's always
been. I also 'assumed' that she'd be somewhat difficult to find as
she's not 'fashionable'. I'm prepared to wait and endure the cold
showers, the flu I have as a result and endless parade of toast... It'll
just make it extra special when I finally get to hear it....! I just
hope it's soon.
Also I just received a Chi Coltrane L.P for my birthday and I was
wondering if anyone 'knows' anything about her that they'd be interested
in sharing?
A very stuffy nosed and miserable Vanessa.
p.s. We could substituts the lyrics "No phones til Friday" to "No gas
til Thursday" so they tell us...
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 22:16:30 PDT
From: "Paul Roberts"
Subject: My final posting
Dear all,
As I'll soon be leaving this ML (as it's turned out just as
predictably as all the other ones I've ever been on), I just thought I
could get my two bits' worth in.
Yes, I think Joni is too over-temperamental. She's gotten far 'above
her raising' as my grandmother says and she's forgotten her roots. Her
song 'The Boho Dance' should make this painfully obvious, that she once
was 'working cheap' and that she was just a struggling artist, like the
rest of us in this list who are budding musicians (not unlike myself!)
I agree with Chili on saying that her refusal to do an encore due to
someone *YAWNING* is ridiculous and petty, very childish as well. It
smacks of something that a prima donna would do, someone who thinks more
of themselves than they really are. People yawn due to lack of oxygen,
not necessarily due to boredom; she should know that as well.
I used to love reading interviews with Joni, but recently she's
become, quite frankly, a bitch. I read an interview with her in 'Spin,'
I believe it was, and it was the first interview I'd ever read with
her...she was talking with the interviewer and a female jazz/soul
musician, and I remember her being rather rude in the interview, and
quite caustic, not at all what I had previously imagined her to be like,
but she wasn't quite that bad, so I overlooked it. After reading the
interviews that were posted to this ML, I've reconsidered; I wouldn't
want to meet her at all, we'd end up arguing before five minutes had
passed because she complains too much and generalises. She groups
modern music into a large, ridiculous group that she defines through her
denigratory terms, which isn't fair at all to the truly talented artists
that are there.
Even in one interview, she bashes Sheryl Crow, almost as if to be in
keeping with her policy of hating 'modern' artists, and then in another
interview barely any time at all later (relatively), she lauds her and
acclaims her style. Certainly it's her prerogative to change her mind,
but after such a caustic review of the same artist, for her to turn
around such a 180, it seems very bought and rehearsed, at least to me.
Almost a taboo for the artist that refused to sell out in the seventies,
with her artistic climax reached as she recorded records only to fulfill
a contract...it seems very offensive to those of us who have actually
followed her since then, even if it is truly her own mind changing...she
should prepare a little bit better for interviews (despite the fact that
she doesn't like them) if she intends to sustain her image.
Another thing (as if that wasn't enough!:) is the fact that she makes
such a big deal about playing her old material. Being a musician
myself, I know how frustrating it is when people recognise a particular
song you play (I play a very small circuit, so it's this one song that
sort of gets spread around among the circuit:) and want you to play it,
but that's not really the problem with Joni. Besides which, if you
already know how to play a song well enough, it should be a nice break
from all the songs you really have to work on. I know when I was just
learning some songs, I'd do a few songs that I had practised a great
deal, like 'Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire,' and I could play almost
without thinking, providing a welcome break from all the songs I had to
wrack my brains on to recall the chords. Although this may not be her
particular viewpoint, I don't see why it couldn't be; she's established
herself well enough to have at least a few of these that she could fall
back on, providing a nice flashback for the true fans in the crowd and
also getting a slight break from the sometimes-exhausting spotlight.
Not only this, but she should also realise that with hits come demand.
She should approach this more maturely, with the view that if you have a
hit, especially as many as she has, people are going to want to hear it,
and not only that, but also you're going to be asked to play it a great
deal, so you get a lot of practise, and this goes back to my previous
point; it's just another nice break from an otherwise exhausting
concert, and it gives the fans what they want. I don't see what's so
hard about that. I can sympathise somewhat, but not all that much since
I know how it can be and I don't think it has to be annoying at all.
Joni has that tendency now, unfortunately, to fall into that very
tempting pitfall of the 'influencer'...to let it go to her head that
she's influenced so much of the modern music that she hates. On one
hand, she likes to bitch about the lack of artistic integrity of modern
artists, and on the other hand, she likes to say, 'Hey, you can see my
influence there.' You can't have your cake and eat it too, and it seems
Joni's trying to do just that...She also doesn't tour much anymore (she
never did very much, but she's *REALLY* stayed away from stages in
recent years), and especially not in my area of the country, which is
unfortunate because I know that her shows would all but sell out in some
areas around here where I know some very dedicated fans of hers. It
seems rather unfair that she sometimes gives them the shaft in coming to
see them, because up until I learned so much about her, she was the only
artist I would consider seeing in concert any more besides Tori Amos,
who I would only see at a small concert. And Tori, while she has a huge
stock of songs, is not too up on her high-horse to play some of her old
reliable hits, or even just songs that fans like...she actually takes
requests sometimes and she recognises the value of her fans, which I
respect immensely (and to boot, I don't have to worry about Tori selling
out to Lilith Fair!:)
Given, Joni is a great artist, and I adore her work and her
music...she's contributed an immense amount to the face of the music
landscape today and, whether she likes it or not, has shaped current
modern sound for better or worse. Her ground-breaking work put some of
the greatest sound that's ever existed into the musical scene. But if
she is to succeed further in her career, she's going to have to stop
refusing to go back. A man is the sum of his memories, it's said, and
musicians are no different; you can't just keep moving on without at
least acknowledging your past, but it seems like Joni has almost always
done that, even recently upon her 'return' to her more successful
jazz/folk gestalt, refusing to go back in any way other than a slight
nod to what once was.
She also needs to start working on her image more...I know it's
shallow, but in this world she needs it, especially with how she's been
lately. If she's going to have an image at all, she should make a good
one, not one of a temperamental, self-absorbed bitch (excuse the overuse
of that word:) who complains about anything and everything. I'd give a
lot to be in her position, and I don't think I'd be quite so unpleasant
about the fact that I was there; many people that I know think very
little of her because of her image that she's made for herself, and I
don't like that...I respect her as a creative artist, even though I
don't particularly like her attitude sometimes, and she's still my
favourite artist of all. Seriously, though, she needs to stop being so
arrogant and self-opinionated in interviews, whether or not she's like
that at all in everyday life. Even if she's not trying to sell albums,
she probably should be, because whether she likes it or not, money is an
issue in the music industry, unfortunately; not only this, but she may
not be trying to make any new friends or fans, and if she continues on
this road, she won't have to worry about that at all.
Being a musician myself, I am sometimes overcritical myself, but I am
overcritical of nothing more than artists being like Joni has showed
herself to be lately. It smacks of hypocrisy and ungratefulness, and
from someone of her calibre, I wouldn't accept it any more than I'd
accept it from the CEO of a large, successful corporation. She's been
more influential than most artists this century, indeed in the history
of music; she's explored avenues others have never even imagined, and
she's pioneered roads that have become well-travelled by others, but she
needs very desperately to work against the image that is now being
attributed to her due to her perhaps too-bitter outlook on interviews
and her image in the public eye. Given, the world has a good many
things wrong with it, but the way to solve that isn't to constantly
complain about the problems and react bitterly to those that have made
you what you are; the answer is to act and set a good example so that
those people and others follow your example and do that good thing.
That's it for me...Phoenix signing off the Joni Mitchell Discussion
List for good.:)
Love to all!
Phoenix
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:18:03 -0400
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: Washington Blade review
I know y'all have been holding your breath waiting for this one, so
here it is, from the Oct 2 98 issue (BTW, the Blade is a gay paper):
Joni Mitchell isn't a Lesbian, but hers is widely considered to be the
Woodstock generation's most articulate voice--in fact, she wrote its
theme song, "Woodstock." Today, three decades after the epoch-
defining festival she famously memorialized as an effort to recover a
lost Paradise, what does Mitchell have to say to Gay listeners?
A lot, as it trns out. Her new album, TTT, begins with a song about
kids sneaking in to a carnival sideshow to see hoochie coochie
dancers--some of whom are identified in teh lyric as drag queens.
"Auntie Ruthie would have died if she knew we were on the inside,"
Mitchell sings.
The theme of forbidden pleasure--specifically, erotic pleasure
frowned upon by prudes--runs through the album, which becomes,
in effect, a blessing for lovers. An instant pop classic, "The Crazy
Cries of Love" is about partners who hope a train will go by while
they're having sex so that their cries won't be overheard.
Mitchell has defined herself through her confessional lyrics as a
serial monogamist who shocks her mother with her behavior. On
TTT, "Face Lift" tells the story of an argument the middle-aged
songwriter recently had with her mother, who disapprove of her
daughter's "making love without a [marriage] license--same old
sacred cow."
The album closes with an updated version of the cowboy classic,
"My Best to You,: which concludes with the verse, "So here's to
you, may your skies be blue, and your love blessed--that's my
best to you."
In these songs, as in others--including the raging "Sex Kills" on her
1994 release TI00it's clear where Mitchell's sympathies lie. As she
sings in "Face Lift": "Love takes so much courage. Love takes so
much shit!"
TTT is a beautiful record designed to give listeners heart.
--Greg Varner
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:41:06 EDT
From: Gellerray@aol.com
Subject: all apologies
Esquizito wrote: (to me ray)
Uh oh, here we go. Everybody chill. Please don't type anything that
you wouldn't be willing or able to say face to face.
good point and i apologize. Most of all to David Marine, but also to the
entire list. I was visited by loose cannon dis-ease, and I am duly chastised,
very sorry. Much love, believe it or not--
ray
p.s. sad thing is, in the moment i typed it I'm sure i would have been willing
to say it to the face of--but again--sorry!!!!
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:57:35 EDT
From: FredNow@aol.com
Subject: Re: Joni was a member of The Mamas and Papas/ Lead Balloon
"Philipf" wrote:
>>I was stunned to see that the group consisted of two blokes with
>>beards, a fat lady and our own Joni Mitchell in all her loveliness
>>... When The Mamas and Papas split Joni went to England and joined a
>>country rock outfit called Mathews Southern
Comfort ... I suspect
>>that Joni is still double jobbing, possibly as the
drummer in a New
>>Jersey stadium rock band.
Zelig Mitchell.
- -Fred
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:02:51 EDT
From: FredNow@aol.com
Subject: Re: Janis & Joni & Q mag's appreciation of BOTH
Gellerray@aol.com wrote:
>>chili i just want to tell you--last year Q mag did a "hundred
>>greatest
acoustic guitar songs of all time" piece and joni was in
>>there of course--for
black crow
Black Crow was recorded on electric guitar.
- -Fred
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:09:57 EDT
From: FredNow@aol.com
Subject: Re: JMHP/Liner Notes
Mark Domyancich wrote:
>>You know, I really think Joni should have given Wally credit in the
>>liner
notes of TTT.
Agreed. Surprised that she didn't.
- -Fred
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:14:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: pswmusic@interport.net (Esquizito)
Subject: Re: Washington Blade review
>TTT is a beautiful record designed to give listeners heart.
>
> --Greg Varner
Yes well, everyone knows how us gay boys must have our female icons!
Joni, The Sex Godess, The Torcher, and yes - The Bitch - suits the
post-Judy, Radical Faeries just fine. BTW, Who here has caught John Kelly's act?
Esquizito
www.inetrport.net/~pswmusic
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:19:25 EDT
From: Gellerray@aol.com
Subject: Re: accolades and honors....
yeah kakki. reading what you wrote--esp about joni and sweating the small
stuff i am reminded of the (first) night at the gorge when she was introducing
magadalene launderies and somebody interrupted her (overeager so to overlook)
and called her an "anglophile"--and she just had to respond! She couldn't let
it go. As I remember she bantered a bit and then came back with her response
as the idea had gotten under her skin and she needed to sweat it, and she said
something like "I'm a mutt darlin'." And maybe some more things I don't
recall. Something about her "French blood" and her arrogance in fact!
Anyway, it was cute--far less strident than she has been sounding in these
interviews. So, context indeed?
the ray
who still, nevertheless, wishes that she were a *little* 'sweeter' about this
stuff--but who knows--who knows!--how it feels to be dissed for so long as she
has been? overlooked--relegated--pigeonholed--blacklisted. misogynized.
and yet, as our debates do seem to prove--she could be debated on these
points. It would be nice if one single interviewer seemed up to that and
didn't just use the the timeworn tradition and the inane inflection of the
poison pen.
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 98 23:31:52 -0700
From: Wally Breese
Subject: Stuff
Hi everybody,
Lots of stuff for you this evening-
TICKETS
Tickets for Joni's show at Madison Square Garden go on sale Monday
morning at 9AM.
AUSTIN, TEXAS RADIO INTERVIEW
Last evening, Austin radio station KGSR broadcast an interview with Joni
that their DJ, Jody Denberg, did back on September 9th at the Bel Air
Hotel in L.A. The program ran 70 minutes and included five tracks from
Joni's new album Taming The Tiger. (I listened through the stations' live
RealAudio feed).
This interview is going to be pressed onto promotional CD's and serviced
to about 100 radio stations around the country as a part of Reprise's
"Words & Music" series. I've already asked them for 25 copies of the CD
that I'll then offer as prizes in another JM.com contest.
MAGAZINES
Look for the latest issues of US, People, and Entertainment Weekly
magazine for articles on Joni or reviews of her new album Taming The
Tiger. (ET gives it an A-)
THE NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE
Today's New York Times Magazine (10/4) has an interview with Joni
entitled "The Hissing of a Living Legend." The article is, obviously, a
not totally positive portrait of JM, but after I settled down from my
initial stinging read, I found the article to actually be an intelligent
and honest report about some of Joni's positive and negative sides. It's
not an article that Joni will like, but it's the kind of piece that all
artists should perhaps occasionally have written about them. The writer,
BTW, loves Joni's new album Taming The Tiger.
GOOD MORNING AMERICA
On Friday morning (10/2) Joni was featured on saxophonist David Sanborn's
new musical segment on ABC-TV's "Good Morning America." Sanborn was
introduced for the segment as GMA's "music contributor," and GMA's male
host and he talked for a brief minute about Joni, followed by a taped
five minute interview with Joni on subjects ranging from her new guitar,
her daughter and grandson, and the fact that her new album Taming The
Tiger was recorded totally in her own home studio.
Brian Blade, her drummer and friend, sat at her right side while she
talked about how he had helped inspire her to continue making music, and
at one point, she reached over, took his hand and squeezed it with
affection. While she talked about her commitment to painting, images of
six of the paintings included in the TTT booklet were flashed on the
screen. She said of the reunion with her daughter, "...it filled in a big
hole for me."
After commercials, Sanborn talked briefly about Joni's unique way of
playing guitar, and then another film segment was shown where he joined
with Joni and Brian to perform "The Crazy Cries Of Love" (in a recording
studio setting).
It was so gratifying to view an intelligent, lengthy musical segment on
morning TV, especially one that also included a live performance. The
only criticism I have is that the lighting and camera angles were not
exactly ones which I would have chosen. Maybe a new cameraman would help?
Later,
Wally
The Joni Mitchell Homepage
http://www.JoniMitchell.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:28:01 EDT
From: Gellerray@aol.com
Subject: Re: Washington Blade review
i've seen john kelly--several times Ez. In fact, I count him as a friend and
he tipped me and my (once) boyfriend Colin off about the night Joni was to
attend and so we reserved (at Fez) and went and there she was all night long
and there was John too and it was a brillant evening.
I don't live in New York though anymore, (since January)...
r
have you seen john?
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Siquomb, isn't she?