From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #379 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 29 1998 Volume 03 : Number 379 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Mpls tix [RickieLee1@aol.com] NJC POC's not Chicken ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Timothy P. F. Ireland [Bounced Message ] Biblical references? (SJC) [Bounced Message ] TTT in Philadelphia Inquirer [Bounced Message ] Yet another UK TTT Review (JC) [Bounced Message ] Re: TTT (silence) [Brian Gross ] Parody: Tantrum Stars [Rob Jordan ] TTT in my hot little hands [Rob Jordan ] Astrid / Michael Paz [Rob Jordan ] TTT review in Time Out (London listings mag) [Rob Jordan ] Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: TTT (silence) [jussi ] Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Eagle Rock TV Special [Mike Friedman ] Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info [catman ] Joni live [picard3@webtv.net (Sherelle Smith)] Stay In Touch [Mark Domyancich ] Why? Why? Why don't people get it? [DKasc13293@aol.com] Re: Eagle Rock TV Special [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Eagle Rock TV Special [Brian Gross ] Greek chorus [michael paz ] Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info [IVPAUL42@aol.com] pay for what? [Wolfebite@aol.com] Birthday Card ["Ken (Slarty)" ] re: Parody Tantrum stars now NJC ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Joni on Radio ["Happy The Man" ] Re: re: Parody Tantrum stars now NJC [Marian Rulewski ] bios/password thing (NJC) [Evian ] TTT: 4 Stars from Yahoo! News [Janet Hess ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:12:34 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: Mpls tix In a message dated 98-09-26 12:05:48 EDT, rkbjf@uswest.net writes: << Mental note: I MUST STAY ALIVE UNTIL OCT. 23RD! >> brad - congratulations. this is totally cool, and your seats sound like they could not be better. (i am assuming any difference between row 1,2,or 3 is only marginally different from row 4.) keep us posted, and good luck on your mental note. i got a good laugh out of that one. may you live long and prosper until 10/23 (and beyond) peace, ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:19:03 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: NJC POC's not Chicken JMDL's long-time member, the famous, the mysterious, the clever, Patrica OConnor,POC, pronounced 'Pox', who's no chicken---POC's not waitin' to make her mark on no rain storm, instead, she's coming to NY. We will finally be able to meet our POC, my new pal, who's like, so nice and charming---hey, she flattered me so,( good talkin' to ya, POC.) -Julie, who will be looking for that 'red head' in the bleachers through the miles of aisles...on Nov 1st ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:21:58 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Timothy P. F. Ireland From: "Denise & Nick Deanovic" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:43:27 -0700 Does any one know if Joni Mitchell ever had a love interest named "Timothy Patrick Fulford Ireland". Thanks. Denise ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:22:38 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Biblical references? (SJC) From: Bkparlour@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 04:41:25 EDT One Joni song has a line with a reference that has always eluded me. In "Don't interrupt the sorrow", the line is "and he chains me with that serpent to that Ethiopian wall". OK - the serpent doesn't exactly need much interpretation, and neither does the act taking place, but what about the "Ethiopian wall"? I've always assumed this is something biblical, but could someone more erudite please enlighten me? If it is biblical, please quote chapter and verse and I'll go and look. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:21:02 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: TTT in Philadelphia Inquirer From: "Reuben P Bell" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:23:07 -0400 "Taming The Tiger" got a good review in the Philadelphia Inquirer on Sunday. They discussed Joni, Sheryl Crow and P.J. Harvey in a group as kind of a "girls with new albums" thing (why do we keep doing this?) then they discussed the records separately. They liked it! My question is, the picture they ran of Joni looked like a new one to me, but is so airbrushed that it hardly looked like her. I actually thought that it was Kilauren at first. Very young looking, flawlessly smooth skin, etc.. Just wondering if all of the promo photos are this good. I'll try and send a transcription of the article tomorrow. Reuben (counting down the hours until I go to Tower on Tuesday afternoon...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:20:05 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Yet another UK TTT Review (JC) From: Bkparlour@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:01:49 EDT Very disappointed with my normal daily read ("The Independent") for not having even mentioned the existence of TTT, I found the following review in the "Telegraph " of 26/9/98. Female singer-songwriters have never been in greater demand - or supply for that matter. So it's nice to welcome back, after a four-year absence, the original and indeed, the greatest of them all to show everybody how it should be done. The opening of Lead Balloon ("Kiss my ass," I said / And threw my drink ) suggests Mitchell may even have taken on board some of the post-Alanis Morrisette feminine aggression, but the pay-off ("Must be the Irish blood /Fight before you think") reveals that she's just being playful. There's a similarly light mood to most of these tracks. It may be that one of the reasons Miytchell has never quite acheived the mythological status of her most obvious male contemporary, Bob Dylan, is due to her preference ofr detailed miniatures over grand statements. Her only state -of the-nation address come on No Apologies ("What happened to this place? / Lawyers and loan sharks / Are laying America to waste.) Of course, another reason why Mitchell has never been seen a s a rock goddess is because she isn't a rocker at all. Her jazzy oeuvre, boasting rhythms and melodies as sophisticated as her wordmanship, is probably too subtle and complex for mass consumption. She builds these tracks around gentle surges of rhythm, with her soft-toned acoustic guitar to the fore and her vocals laying emphasis in unexpected places. It is amusing to speculate how immediate and powerful some of these songs could be in the hands of a rapper, but the title track, on which Mitchell describes herself as "a run\away from the record biz" makes it clear she's disillusioned with the whole game: "The radio blared so bland/ Every disc a poker chip/Every song just a one-night stand/Formula music, girlie guile/Genuine junkfood for juveniles.....it;s hip! It's hot/Life's too short" That's telling them, Joni. Neil McCormick. Last place I thought I'd find something so positive... David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: TTT (silence) - ---jussi wrote: > > Many CD's have *minutes* of silence before a hidden track, which is > often some kind of throwaway material, the artist playing around in the > studio, etc Since I'm in the US and haven't seen my 38,000 copies of TTT (37,856 of which I'll be returning in 29 days ;-) yet, the only thing I have to go by is the copy of the jewel case insert from the preview cd that appeared in my mailbox some time ago. It lists Tiger Bones as track #11. Seeing as it's listed there, how could it be called a "hidden track"? After almost wearing out my cassette preview copy (Jenna even has most of the lyrics memorized by now), I'm looking forward to receiving my cd's later on this week. I'm glad our Southern US friends were spared the brunt of Georges so far. Mucho Joni (sorry, JamieJake) Brian np: Stan Rogers - Between the Breaks...Live! (too bad he's not) === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:53:01 +0100 From: Rob Jordan Subject: Parody: Tantrum Stars After a troublesome day with my four-year-old twins, I wrote the following, which, I hasten to add, is a work of fiction! They're great kids, really, you'd love 'em :-) since we had you you can't get through the day without at least one big boo-hoo when you don't get your way do everything to want to do tantrum stars this time you went too far smashed in shards beyond repair or superglue scattered down the path there is no china in my house no plates and no glass tantrum stars this time you went too far all in all your debt is six hundred and ninety pounds you'll pay it all week by week and year by year until you're thirty four tantrum stars this time you went too far Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:07:33 +0100 From: Rob Jordan Subject: TTT in my hot little hands Yes, I picked it up today. Though I've been listening to these songs for a while, it's great to have the proper package, and the audio fidelity is so much better on the real thing. Somehow, the VG8 sounds seemed to get mashed up a bit on tape copies. As for Lead Balloon, I went through the phase of "this is sub-DED pseudo-hard rock" but after a couple of plays I was hooked and I love it! Even after Duane's explanations, I'm still startled by "Sic her rover". Apparently this is one phrase which hasn't crossed the Atlantic, at least I haven't heard it. I don't hold out much hope of a chart placing in the UK. In HMV's main Oxford St. shop, they had a measly 5 copies of TTT filed under M. Competition, lining the shelves in prominent browers, included the new PJ Harvey, recent award winners Gomez, Sheryl Crow, Lauryn Hill and Bacharach/Costello. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:10:11 +0100 From: Rob Jordan Subject: Astrid / Michael Paz If any of you feel like taking time off from listening to TTT, I heartily recommend a new CD from a woman called Astrid (Williamson). It's called "Boy for you" and I really love it. If you check out her publicity blurb at www.nuderecords.com you'll see she name checks Joni and Carole King, but I think this is a bit misleading - though she has some of the same songwriting acumen, it doesn't sound anything like these two. Think of the sound Sarah McLachlan makes on Fumbling Towards Ecstasy, with occasional Bjork-like touches and a few Aimee Mann-erisms :-) She's from the Shetlands (remote Scottish islands), but recorded this in New Orleans with Malcolm Burn. Anyway, the reason I mention it here, is that reading the liner notes, I see in the small print: "Thanks ... in New Orleans ... to Mike Paz". Is this our very own? Michael, if so, please clue us in to the story behind this CD. Rob np: Boy for you / Astrid (of course) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:05:55 +0100 From: Rob Jordan Subject: TTT review in Time Out (London listings mag) Apologies if someone has already posted - I haven't spotted it. Joni Mitchell Taming The Tiger / Reprise Although the world no longer demands or expects a new Joni Mitchell every couple of years or so, when one does come along, it tends to be a welcome thing, if not especially daring or imaginative. This, her first release since 1994's fine 'Turbulent Indigo', features more of her same tender, wrought, personal and introspective fare, except there is a difference. Not a wild difference, perhaps, but a subtle shift of focus nevertheless. Significantly, the credits contain a thank you for 'rekindling my desire to make music', and it shows. Mitchell here sounds more comfortable, at ease, less bound by latterday musical and stylistic strictures of her own devising. Certainly, the easy option of dull conformity is eschewed, though the bright, echoey guitars and proggy soundscapes do occasionally cloy. It's a soft, dense, keyboard-laden album, and Mitchell's own lush, sometimes ponderous (and, on 'My Best To You', even pompous) synthesizer melodramatics lend the whole a sombre and ethereal air. It's also notably embellished by Wayne Shorter, who adds a consistently deft and typically lilting jazz bent (beautifully so on the excellent 'Stay In Touch'). Lyrics, meanwhile, are direct and often simplistic. '"Kiss my ass", I said, and I threw my drink...' she blurts on 'Lead Balloon', while on the title track, she sings: 'I'm a runaway from the record biz.' This might not be a better album than 'Turbulent Indigo', but, intriguingly, it is rather more challenging, moody and impressionistic. Ross Fortune ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:24:17 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: TTT review in Time Out (London listings mag) I beg to differ... :-) Mark, anticipating tomorrow at 3:00PM At 12:05 AM +0100 9/29/98, Rob Jordan wrote: >Although the world no longer demands or expects a new Joni Mitchell every >couple of years or so... ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:36:01 PDT From: "Jerome Gonzales" Subject: yes, ANOTHER TTT review... Here's the review I got from Yahoo! today... (Hopefully I'm not doubling a previously posted one.) Joni Mitchell "Taming the Tiger" (Reprise) 4 stars The lulling purr of Joni Mitchell's folk-pop-jazz blend is deceptive; her songs still bite, whether she's addressing social injustice (''No Apologies''), personal matters (''Stay in Touch,'' ``Facelift'') or, in the title track, the whining white kids of the record biz.'' The instrumental footing is equally firm, a worthy follow-up to 1994's Grammy-winning ``Turbulent Indigo,'' with particularly sweet contributions by saxophonist Wayne Shorter, a longtime collaborator. Time has hardly tamed Mitchell's ambitions -- thank goodness. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:51:20 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info In a message dated 9/28/98 1:22:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pward@lightspeed.net writes: << I already have regular cable service. In order to get the show I need to rent a cable box for $3.25/mo and purchase a remote for $8.95. I still don't know what the "pay per view" cost is. >> I'm confused. If you already have cable, why do you need another box? My service offers pay tv- does that mean I may not need another hook-up? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:11:33 -0700 From: jussi Subject: Re: TTT (silence) > > Many CD's have *minutes* of silence before a hidden track, which is > > often some kind of throwaway material, the artist playing around in the > > studio, etc > > Since I'm in the US and haven't seen my 38,000 copies of TTT (37,856 of which > I'll be returning in 29 days ;-) yet, the only thing I have to go by is the > copy of the jewel case insert from the preview cd that appeared in my mailbox > some time ago. It lists Tiger Bones as track #11. Seeing as it's listed > there, how could it be called a "hidden track"? To start from the original message: Somehow I got the impression that he felt cheated that the record is "short". But considering that the track list of TTT has been known for months and half of the songs have been circulating on tapes, it doesn't take much adding up to figure out that it will be a 40-minute album. Also, Joni is no Janet who is *expected* to deliver 75-minute albums (now that she's done many of them in a row). To me it's odd that someone would complain about the record's length. Or that typos in the booklet would make him "disappointed"(?) Maybe something is lost in the translation here and I missed the point he made. Still, I think it's funny that someone has 10 or 11 brand new Joni tracks and he decides to complain about technicalities like that. What comes to silences or hidden tracks, even longer silences aren't that uncommon, and that with Joni even silence would have a purpose. Like curtains before the encore. I'm afraid my TTT is a tape copy of the CD, so I can't verify how the tracks are laid out either. My record shop worker friend made it so that I would survive until payday at the end of this week. The pause on my tape is actually much longer because "Tiger Bones" is alone on side B on my tape! way past bedtime: 3 AM, - --jussi - ------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:21:45 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > I'm confused. If you already have cable, why do you need another box? My > service offers pay tv- does that mean I may not need another hook-up? I only have the "basic" cable service - no movie channels - no box. - -- Phyliss pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:33:19 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Eagle Rock TV Special At 05:05 AM 9/28/98 -0400, IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 9/28/98 4:19:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wallyb@well.com >writes: > ><< Mitchell and Eagle > Rock Entertainment are executive producers of the two hour concert which > will air via USSB and Viewers Choice. >> > >What does this mean, is this going to be on a cable network or pay-per-view or >what? >Never heard of either USSB or Viewers Choice. USSB is a satellite network. In other words, you have to have a dish or known someone who does. =================================== Mike Friedman San Francisco, CA USA "I see the blue pools in the squinting sun, and hear the hissing of summer lawns." - --Joni, 1975 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:38:23 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info On my cable service you just click the BUY button to watch a pay per view show. TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/28/98 1:22:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pward@lightspeed.net writes: > > << I already have regular cable service. In order to get the show I need > to rent a cable box for $3.25/mo and purchase a remote for $8.95. I > still don't know what the "pay per view" cost is. >> > > I'm confused. If you already have cable, why do you need another box? My > service offers pay tv- does that mean I may not need another hook-up? > > Terry - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:17:19 -0400 (EDT) From: picard3@webtv.net (Sherelle Smith) Subject: Joni live Hi everyone! This is so exciting to see live Joni and Pay per view Joni everywhere! This is one of our wildest dreams come true! I want to go see her in Indianapolis, but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to. I will try my best though. I'm very excited about TTT being released on the 29th (or has that date changed?) I will be sure to throw in my two cents when I get a chance to listen to it. I have avoided all chances to prematurely hear TTT before the release date. I guess I want the whole "go buy it -take it home and listen to it" experience, To me, it's like a kid at Christmas unwrapping a toy. Can anyone tell me why I'm dragging my feet to go see Joni in concert? What in the world am I afraid of? I can't believe I'm doing it! I think ny hearts desire would be to briefly meet her, and I know that possibility is slim with so many attending her concerts. I guess I'm an all-or -nothing type of person. Maybe tha's why I'm going in slow motion. I think it would bother me more to get so close and not be able to meet her. Now that I'm in the 60 hour work week category, I am really beginning to find out just how de-stressing Joni's music is. Playing Court and Spark or Shadows and Light is so relaxing on the way home. I don't even get upset when people cut me off! Well, take care everyone. I miss you all and hope that everyone's doing fine. My heart goes out to our list members who live near the gulf. Here's to calm seas once again. Love, Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:18:29 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Stay In Touch Hi everyone! I played around with Stay In Touch, and I have to say, it sounds really beautiful on my acoustic! It reminds me a lot of Borderline. I'll have a report on TTT tomorrow. Mark, who will probably go insane during 7th period tomorrow ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:25:02 EDT From: DKasc13293@aol.com Subject: Why? Why? Why don't people get it? I'm not going to bore anyone with another adoration of her talent here. I've just done my daily laps through Central Park, figured I'd check Tower Records on the West Side (Did Harlem on Sunday must've been from listening to Harlem in Havana) to see if there were any copies of TTT to pick up. Decided on Cafe Des Artistes as my choice for the big 4-0 birthday dinner, and settled (sarcasm here) for Kyle Eastwood's new one with the Joni track, because even in NYC they wait for the official release date (damn). For those hankering for a trip back to a more jazzy vocal (pre-NRH now some 10 years ago!) what an excellent accompaniment to a trip down Broadway to the windows of Bergdorf Goodman and Turnbull and Asser (deep purple ties and lavender/gray pinstriped suits seem to be the vogue for men this coming season) and up Park Avenue (yellow schools of taxi fishes, a strange boy (39 still) is weaving a coarse of grace and havoc on a silver Cannondale through midtown sidewalk traffic) I feel totally rejuevenated by this track. I ask you, Why? Why don't people get it? Looking forward to the Hancock stuff now too. Pick up Trouble Man for that urban edge flashed in HOSL's hayday. Run on sentences, I know, but I'm winded from riding. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:15:55 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Eagle Rock TV Special In a message dated 9/28/98 8:37:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mikef1@jps.net writes: << USSB is a satellite network. In other words, you have to have a dish or known someone who does. >> Oh NO!! Terry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Eagle Rock TV Special Mike Friedman writes: > > << USSB is a satellite network. In other words, you have to have a dish or > known someone who does. >> > - ---Terry wrote: Oh NO!! **OR** Your cable company is going to carry the show as a pay-per-view event. Call them !! Tell them "I WANT MY JONI" Good Luck ! Brian np: Cubbies 5 - Giants Zippo, top of the 9th === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:44:36 +0000 From: michael paz Subject: Greek chorus Hey Marian- i woulda happily been your greek chorus. That woulda been hysterical. Still treading water in Meridian, Michael P.S. Mikey found a copy of Court and Spark here in these folks home and asked if he could listen to it. No Mikey, bad boy, leave that alone!!! P.S.S. I gotta get back to New Orleans before Tower closes tomorrow so I can finish my Christmas shopping early. I got word from home that my house is ok. Thank God! Thanks again for the flood (no pun) of good wishes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:43:40 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni TV Special - Cable info In a message dated 9/28/98 7:58:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TerryM2442@aol.com writes: << I'm confused. If you already have cable, why do you need another box? My service offers pay tv- does that mean I may not need another hook-up? >> Most, if not all, cable systems do not allow you to receive pay-per-view programs without a converter box. So even if you have cable, you may still have to spend more to rent the converter box and have it installed. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:43:21 EDT From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: pay for what? Q:? do you need a television to watch the eagle rock special? all I have is a cardboard box with a hole cut out and two puppet heads stickin out... I can periodically dust off my TV and remove the laundry to pop in a video tape- but I don't have cable, or a little box, or an inflight recorder, or a sattelite link, or UBBS, USSR, UB40, 2Bor not 2B or any other pay to medicate kind of services. so- is there any further word if there will be any other less obtuse viewings - - perhaps good ole public televison- or god forbid- network time? How about release as a video? that had been discussed I believe? any kindly souls taping? I"ll trade for my asbestos safety guidelines tapes...... the geese are flying south- or maybe to the next parking lot..... doug nr (now reading) Mr. Wilson's Cabinet of Wonder: Pronged Ants, Horned Humans, Mice on Toast, and Other Marvels of Jurassic Technology. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:55:21 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Birthday Card Ok as soon as Paul posts the list Birthday Ideas you can start voting. The voting address will be vote@jmdl.com which Les was kind enough to set up for us. Jody is going to take care of the vote counting and I want to thank Paul Ivis for his help putting together the idea list. Remember: vote@jmdl.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:19:13 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: re: Parody Tantrum stars now NJC At 11:53 PM 9/28/98 +0100, Rob Jordon wrote: >After a troublesome day with my four-year-old twins, I wrote the following, >which, I hasten to add, is a work of fiction! They're great kids, really, >you'd love 'em :-) Boy we can relate.--- Our six-year-old twin boys snuck off with our garage door opener. While driving down the parkway, I caught them in my rearview mirror---throwing the garage door opener out of the car window. But that wasn't as bad as the time that they were found stuffing plastic toy food into the tiny slot of our furnace. The babysitter, coming out of the loo, was shocked to find them in the basement surrounded by a white cloud of smoke... (They said that they were baking.) -Julie, who worries about how far they'll go once they're out of the rocket building phase. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:37:40 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Joni on Radio Halfway through and hour long special of TTT on the local KGSR. Early present to us Joni fans. They are playing the whole album straight through. Crazy Cries of Love is hopping in the background. My wife decided to sit this one out and crashed. Can that women sing. I don't know if I can wait till my copies come in the mail tomorrow. Wait, isn't Tower open on Mondays till 12:30 a.m. for those who need their Joni fix early. Quote: My wife roles over in bed and tells me to turn down the radio. Wait, are these grounds for divorce? Hey, I have turned her on to Steely Dan, Yes, Queen, maybe, just maybe someday I will here these words. Honey, is that the new Joni album. You think you can turn it up so I can here it. Naw, just a dream. Sorry folks it is just rolling around in the background tasting so much like that fresh cantaloupe that drips down the side of your cheeks. Fresh, sweet, tasty and hits the spot. Man, why did I think it would sound like the tapes. the Production is sweet. Facelift baby. Wayne is flowing man. I am out of here. Peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:54:22 +1000 From: Marian Rulewski Subject: Re: re: Parody Tantrum stars now NJC >>> "Julie Z. Webb" 09/29 3:19 pm >>> Julie, who worries about how far they'll go once they're out of the rocket building phase. Not too far Julie, mine are 13 and still alive and kicking. They also liked baking when they were small. Main advantage is that they cook very well now, so you've something to look forward to. I realise now that I should have slept less before. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:15:07 +0900 (JST) From: Manno Toshikazu Subject: Joni's Pix Hi, all the Joni's fans I've updated my HP. I add Joni's gallary, pictures from concert program of her '83 Japan tour. Those may not be unreleased pictures... Please visit ; http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/7219/ And I bought Joni's remastered 'Clouds',released only in Japan. That sound is greater than regular CD. It's not described how to remaster. Rest of her albums are available. Best Regards Manno Toshikazu ---Music, The Final Frontier--- manno@rdd.kenwood.co.jp http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/7219/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:16:04 -0600 From: Evian Subject: bios/password thing (NJC) > Or maybe I really AM missing something, and I'm not being paranoid enough ... > but I really don't want to live that way. > Lori, I made the suggestion about leaving out the names in the bios because some people expressed concern about their privacy on the site. I, for one, admit that I am paranoid about having my name appear on a site because there ARE nuts out there, and I have witnessed firsthand how some seemingly wonderful people may not be who they appear. Last year, when I finally bought a computer, I was soooooo intrigued by the whole on-line thing. Being a night person, I would log on and hang out in this one chat room, which had a nice bunch of other insomniacs in it. However, there was this one guy in there who ended up causing all sorts of troubles for a bunch of people. I am not sure what exactly happened, but this guy ended up offending a bunch of people and he got kicked out of the room. To make a long story really short, this guy ended up making threats against these two women in the room, the ones he thought were responsible for getting him banned from the room. He got one of their names from the chat room's home page, and the other woman's name from her own page, which was a link on the chat room's page. The real problem was that these people all lived relatively close to each other, and so they were not sure if he was just a big asshole trying to be a bully, or if he was a real threat to them. Moreover, this guy ended up sending all this snail-mail to this other woman in the room because she had her real name in her email addy, and he knew which city she lived in. Let me tell you, she ended up panicking and her husband turned into a big alarmist and changed their ISP. Needless to say, that whole business left a sour taste in my mouth about sharing too much info with people until you really trust them. True, I know it is a crazy idea that someone is going to stumble upon the bios on the site and find a blurb about someone and run out and stalk them, but I carry that whole experience with the chat room incident with me still. Anyway, I was just proposing a way in which people who felt uncomfortable with their names being posted to be able to keep their bios up without being uncomfortable... leaving out last names would be easier than setting up a password for the bios section of the site. Am I too paranoid? Probably, but I am not the only one. This woman from Winnipeg that I became friends with online always discuss this... we send each other things through snail-mail all the time, but she still won't tell me her last name, and I totally understand where she is coming from. Sooooo, before ya all begin to think that I am some neurotic basket-case, I just thought I would give y'all my experiences with the whole too-much-info thing. BTW, I know that I can't really equate a mailing discussion list with a chat room, but still, it never hurts to be careful. Have a happy TTT day (10 hrs and counting until I hit HMV!) Evian/Rob/Paranoid Pete? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:37:10 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: TTT: 4 Stars from Yahoo! News Just noticed that Yahoo! News gives TTT four stars (out of a possible five) for TTT. Here's the JC: From Yahoo! News Monday September 28 4:58 PM EDT SOUND BITES: Album Review Package By Gary Graff Joni Mitchell ``Taming the Tiger'' (Reprise) 4 stars The lulling purr of Joni Mitchell's folk-pop-jazz blend is deceptive; her songs still bite, whether she's addressing social injustice (''No Apologies''), personal matters (''Stay in Touch,'' ``Facelift'') or, in the title track, the whining white kids of the record biz.'' The instrumental footing is equally firm, a worthy follow-up to 1994's Grammy-winning ``Turbulent Indigo,'' with particularly sweet contributions by saxophonist Wayne Shorter, a longtime collaborator. Time has hardly tamed Mitchell's ambitions -- thank goodness. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #379 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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