From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #375 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, September 26 1998 Volume 03 : Number 375 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- joni tour [Robbert ] 4-Star Joni Review in San Diego! Part I ["Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@comp] Re: Rain in my Future (Georges) NJC ["Kakki" ] No Subject [JAN201@aol.com] Music Organization (NJC) [kbarnicle@ensr.com] ps. NJC ["Julie Z. Webb" ] cookbook [Evian ] I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! (NJC) [Evian ] cookbook (absolutely no joni content) [Wolfebite@aol.com] Re: cookbook (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] Re: The UK JMDL - locations (SJC) [catman ] Bryan and Claudia (NJC) [Scott Price ] Re: cookbook (NJC) [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] Re: cookbook (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] 'stay in touch' oddity (jc), joni at the gardan [trxschwa ] TTT bought [jussi ] Four Star San Diego Review, Part II ["Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@compuser] Four Star San Diego Review, Part III ["Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@compuse] The Cookbook Cover [Chilihead2@aol.com] Re: Four Star San Diego Review, Part III ["Kakki" ] I'm A Little Green (NJC) OK? [Michael Paz ] Hurricanes a blowing (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Birthday Idea [Steve Mixon ] OK I'm IN Bio (SJC) [Michael Paz ] Picking a wound (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: cookbook (NJC) ["Steven A. Blue" ] Re: Blue Boy ["Paul Roberts" ] Countdown to Taming [Marsha ] RE: AJATT KGSR 107.1 ["Happy The Man" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:10:15 +0200 From: Robbert Subject: joni tour Dear Lister for Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit and Toronto, Good evening and greetings from The Netherlands, this is Robbert writing. This is to say "hello" to all of you out there being in the midst of preparing for the Joni shows! After having seen our Joan at The Garden last month, I have decided to cross the Atlantic once again and do a little tour of Joni shows. I would love to know if there are more people who are planning to attend the gigs in Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit and Toronto. I will be flying into Detroit on October 24th and am planning to rent a car and drive around for a week to see these 4 shows, returning home on the 31st. If there are other Listers who are thinking of doing the same, please do get in touch with me! Perhaps we can lower costs by traveling together (using one car, and/or share accommodation). Again, it would be great hearing from other fans who would like to see several shows as well. Could be a funpacked week! I look forward to hearing from all of you - for now, enjoy the weekend and hopefully see y'all soon!! ;-) Best, Robbert, who bought his copy of TTT today, rushed home, and.... (speechless) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:20:24 -0400 From: "Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@compuserve.com> Subject: 4-Star Joni Review in San Diego! Part I Hey, guys! A friend gave me a stellar review by our local music critic for the San Diego Union-Tribune, George Varga. I'll try to send it off in parts. A few errors, but all in all, a man of true understanding ... here goes: Pop Taming the Tiger Joni Mitchell Reprise **** (Four Stars, meaning "Excellent") "New Stripes" Joni Mitchell Returns -- and Roams Free -- With Subtle, Nuanced "Tiger" Few music lovers with an appetite for adventure will be able to resist when Joni Mitchell sings: Step right up folks! The show is about to begin, as she does on "Harlem in Havana," the enchanting opening cut from her exquisite new album, "Taming the Tiger." Several years in the making, this meticulously crafted and sequenced collection of songs is an absorbing work that might initially sound enigmatic, abstract or even a bit dissonant to some listeners. But each listening reveals a wealth of nuances and a finely honed sense of logic, form and melody, much like a challenging film or book that creates and occupies a world of its own. Few musicians in any idiom achieve both as much freedom and structure, or grace and daring, as Mitchell, an accomplished painter whose art is featured on "Taming the Tiger's" front and rear cover and on the CD itself. And the timing may again be right for such an original and uncompromising artist as this 54-year-old Canadian, who has struggled commercially over the past two decades, even as she influenced everyone from Sarah McLachlan and Jewel to The Artist Formerly Known As Prince. Then there's Janet Jackson, who liberally sampled Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" on her recent song, "Got 'Til It's Gone," and jazz saxophonist Joshua Redman, who performs a svelte instrumental version of "I Had a King" (from Mitchell's self-titled 1970 (sic) album) on his new album, "Timeless Tales." (More to come ...) Lindsay Moon Typing Furiously -- don't have a scanner! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:21:07 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rain in my Future (Georges) NJC >So far, so good here in St. Petersburg, but I'm ready for the worst. Hang on, Jerry. Glad to see that it is moving westward away from most of you. Now we will worry about Mr. Paz.... Note to Happy Craig - the kitty will survive. Kakki NP: Weather Channel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:09:45 EDT From: JAN201@aol.com Subject: No Subject 09/24/98 Joni Mitchell Performs At Famed Folk-Music School Reopening SonicNet Daily Music News Reports: CHICAGO -- Legendary singer/songwriter Joni Mitchell displayed her classic folk-style Friday at the gala opening of the new home of the Old Town School of Folk Music, a facility that over four decades has been a breeding ground for such illustrious folk-rockers as Roger McGuinn and John Prine. Mitchell's legendary voice wafted through the hall, creating the sense of warmth and musical intimacy that has helped define the genre through the years. As she sang, she accompanied her always poetic words with her trademark guitar-phrases and a subtle sway of her hips. Joining Mitchell for the musical portion of the event were Peter Yarrow of '60s folk-trio Peter, Paul and Mary, roots-rocker Steve Earle and traditionalist folk-singer Gillian Welch. "It's remarkable," Yarrow told the well-heeled crowd, "that people as substantial as yourselves can still get down. If this had been 30 years ago, the CIA would have been watching." Also on hand were Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and 425 benefactors who had paid $5,000 each to be there for the opening-night festivities. The performance was the culmination of a fund-raising and red-tape-slicing campaign by the school that took a dozen years and raised more than $9 million toward the remodeling of a regional library on North Lincoln Avenue. Previously the school was located on West Armitage Avenue. "How great it is to be away from Washington," Durbin said, referring to the current political turmoil involving President Clinton's sex scandal. From the start of her performance, Mitchell captivated the audience. She sang songs such as "Crazy Cries of Love" and "Facelift," from her upcoming album, Taming the Tiger, which is due Tuesday. And she regaled everyone with wry stories and anecdotes about her music. She led off with a series of newer songs, including "Slouching Toward Bethlehem," "Sex Kills" and "Turbulent Indigo," filling the acoustically dazzling performance-space with complex pickings from her deeply resonating electric guitar. And through it all, her vocals reigned supreme. Her voice has aged like a black-and-white photograph -- the grainier it becomes, the more it endows her words with a somber authority. Mitchell's performance was, in its singular way, the perfect tribute to the Old Town School of Music. Since it was founded in 1957, the school has trained such subsequently illustrious musicians as Roger McGuinn of the Byrds, John Prine, Bob Gibson and the late Steve Goodman. It currently provides classes for up to 3,000 students each week. In many ways, the night also belonged to Yarrow. Over the years, he has done numerous benefits for the school and worked behind the scenes and out of the spotlight, raising funds to make the new space a reality. Drawing on his connections to the community, Yarrow began by taking the Peter, Paul and Mary classic "Puff the Magic Dragon" (RealAudio excerpt) and peppering it with the names of the donors and board members, along with little references to their decade-long struggle to raise funds for the new facility. He even brought out the school's executive director, Jim Hirsch, on guitar and one of the school's founders, Frank Hamilton, as a backing vocalist. But not everyone was thrilled about the nature of the event, with its high-priced tickets and white-collar guest list. While Mitchell was singing the strident "Turbulent Indigo," concert-goer David Stowell said, "She's singing about [this] audience - -- all the corporate-types despoiling the Earth for profit." Stowell said he had gotten his ticket from a friend. But such negative thoughts were few and far between. While some were there to see Mitchell, others had come to show their support for the school itself. Katy Burno, daughter of one of the school's donors and a guitar student at the school, said, "It's more that the Old Town School has a new home. It's a beautiful place for musicians." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:28:23 EDT From: kbarnicle@ensr.com Subject: Music Organization (NJC) Earlier someone wrote .... In my experience, people either store their albums alphabetically or sort them by genre (my preference), but you've managed to try both. .......... I guess I am way to visually oriented because I organize my records and CD's by colors. (very nice rainbow effect, especially with some great yellow covers by the B-52's!). And, I don't seem to have a hard time finding a specific record. I guess that's because I spend so much time looking at the cover! Or maybe I have too much time on my hands! Katie FTC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:53:42 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: ps. NJC Because of the order in which my "Bio" post happen to come in this afternoon----between the cookbbook debates---I am compelled to say that my following paragraph from my bio post had **nothing** at all to do with Paul I. JulieZW >(I've hesitated submitting this bio, because Im not interested in seeing this >used as fodder for veiled references--the game, re-surfacing these >days, taken from my public posts by a pathetic few... you know, After >having my feelings hurt a little, I decided, I just don't care. It's more >important for me to express my concerns than to hear,repeatedly,of jmdlers >(and me)being harassed and threatened (privately and publically)on this >list, even if it means reading petty references,as this game continues to >be played out going on two years now.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:58:58 -0600 From: Evian Subject: cookbook > Why does the Jmdl Cookbook have to be taken so seriously? Why > can't it be a little less professional and a little more fun? Why can't it > be a combo poetry/comedy/whatever cookbook? Let's let it just evolve and > reflect our personalities? That's just my own conceptualization of it, > anyone else?..... > Exactly what I think Julie! Who wants a damn cookbook from the JMDL'ers to be oh-so-serious?? What is the point of that? I can't speak for everyone, but if our funky little group is going to have a JMDL cookbook, should it not be zany like we are, and I would rather have the cookbook for recipes (YES, recipes..we can make a recipe outta any old song title if we try hard enough) such as BLUEberry Pancakes, Soup for Sharon, or whatever else we think up than for some "sauteed plantains" or whatever you would consider a "Serious" recipe... lets lighten up and make this thing fun... last I remembered, MOST of us had a sense of humor... Evian NP: Wes - Welenga ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:02:31 -0600 From: Evian Subject: I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! (NJC) Ashara, Nicely put, and I agree 1000% Evian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:18:39 EDT From: BH1248@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) A new thread: Bios Favorite obsession: privacy :-) Kingpin (with charm to sway) NP: Miles Davis, "In A Silent Way" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:29:05 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Johnny Adams and great singers (More JC than I anticipated) In a message dated 9/20/98 8:39:28PM, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes: << BTW, wasn't he the "Tan Nightingale"?! Hi Azeem- He was known as the tan canary. I think was because of his fondness for bright coloured suits (especially yellow). >> Well Michael, I think it's what we call a "score draw": he was both! The sleeve note to "From the Heart" does indeed describe him as the Tan Canary; however, I have a compilation on Charly which is actually called "The Tan Nightingale", and the extensive sleevenotes use that nickname throughout. Whatever, the thing is the voice! Having scrutinised Mojo's top 100 singers and been utterly dismayed by no Laura Nyro and not even a mention of Linda Thompson, I reckon Ol' Johnny was worth a place. I mean, Liam Gallagher makes the cut, ferchrissakes! I thought Joni's no. 19 place was highly respectable, though I don't know why they picked on "Beat of Black Wings" as the sublime moment - for me it would be, I dunno, let's say the way she sings "You like roses and kisses and pretty men to tell you all those pretty lies" in "The Last Time I saw Richard", or that amazing up-down slide (for want of a more technical word...) on "chasing dreeeeeeeaaaams" in "Song for Sharon", or um, well it's way past my bedtime and I've got to get up early tomorrow so I'll leave it at those two. Azeem in London, who's actually got around to learning the words and figuring out the chords to "Brass Buttons". It's just a shame I can't sing and play at the same time :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:29:08 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: The UK JMDL - locations (SJC) In a message dated 9/23/98 2:37:28AM, Ashara@aol.com writes: << I propose the next JMDL Jonifest be in England!!!!! >> I'd love that! Only thing is, I wouldn't be able to accommodate as many folks as you, not unless they plan on getting to know each other VERY well... I've just finished the first day of my 3 year course in Psychosynthesis Counselling (the obvious follow-on from 3 years in therapy :-), and am therefore feeling great. I can't quite believe I'm a student again, 10 years after I finished my first degree. It occurred to me today that the University of East London, with whom my course is affiliated, may have a campus radio station, which would enable to me to pick up my greatest passion (closely followed by singing in the legendary band No Great Sheiks) from university, the radio station. It was while doing that that I started consciously to widen my taste and knowledge in music. So it was that one Saturday in 1984/5, I was browsing in Catapilla (second hand) Records, and thought "Joni Mitchell, she's supposed to be good, maybe I'll get one of hers". I chose one which seemed in good condition, which was quite long, and had a nice cover. It was Hejira. And it's still my fave album by anyone, ever, and my vinyl copy will always be treasured as it was one of the ones Joni signed for me. Anyway, if I do ever get back onto the airwaves, heavy rotation is guaranteed for TTT, which is mere days away now. PJ Harvey's new one due too. Life ain't so bad at all, eh? Azeem in London Last played: Lush's penultimate LP, and easily their best, "Split". Don't know how many Joniphiles will be up with this bunch of alleged shoegazers, but the first song, "Light from a Dead Star", is bloody good, especially when you can work out what the lyrics are. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:34:00 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: cookbook I think this's a good idea. Howabout a recipe called 'No Regrets Chayote'? 'Tartare On The Hill'? Or a chapter called 'Help Me, The Souffle's Falling'? - -jan >cookbook for recipes (YES, recipes..we can make a recipe outta any old >song title if we try hard enough) such as BLUEberry Pancakes, Soup for >Sharon, or whatever else we think up than for some "sauteed plantains" >or whatever you would consider a "Serious" recipe... lets lighten up and >make this thing fun... last I remembered, MOST of us had a sense of >humor... >Evian >NP: Wes - Welenga > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:42:34 EDT From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: cookbook (absolutely no joni content) again and again the same sushi rations d ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:46:29 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) Evian wrote: > some "sauteed plantains" That's a funny little synchronicity ... yesterday I was in the car thinking about "Paprika Plantains" and what in the world those would taste like ... Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:18:33 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: The UK JMDL - locations (SJC) I don't think you have to worry about lack of room Azeem. A few months I sent out mails to all UK JMDLERS about a get together. Zilch. You know how Brits can be....unless they are all scared I have two heads and they met without telling me. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they don't hate me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:31:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) Pasta Twisted My Fetta To You Tiger Bones Stew Sunny Sunday topped with nuts and caramel Magdalene Laundries-crisp bread and vichy soize Not To Flame - raw fish salad Lead Balloon-spotted dick and custard Passion Play -passion fruit and whipped cream Borderline-leftovers mixed together with egg and fried-is it food? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:42:46 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Bryan and Claudia (NJC) I recently acquired from one of the New England Jonifest-ers a tape of the music of JMDL members Bryan Thomas and Claudia San Soucie and would like to report that this is some damn fine stuff! Bryan, I was *amazed* to find that you were the sole artist on all these tracks. Laying down bass, guitar, percussion, and vocals, all in perfect synch...wow! All creating a very unique sound, kind of a funky, driving groove with almost folk-like overtones, capped with incredible vocals. A very cool set of songs. Claud, and band, you guys are terrific! A couple of the tracks could go right onto the airwaves as singles for adult contemporary stations. I found your melodies and chordal progressions most pleasing. I guess I'd have to call this really fine pop music, although it combines elements from folk, rock, and jazz into a beautiful mixture. If either of you have CDs or tapes available *please* let us know! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:46:18 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) >Colin wrote Pasta Twisted My Fetta To You Tiger Bones Stew Sunny Sunday topped with nuts and caramel Magdalene Laundries-crisp bread and vichy soize Not To Flame - raw fish salad Lead Balloon-spotted dick and custard Passion Play -passion fruit and whipped cream Borderline-leftovers mixed together with egg and fried-is it food? ~These are all great!! I love this. Come on everyone let's do the cookbook for her bday!!! This is too much fun! Let me know how I can help get this together.... Best, Davina np: still FTR....blue steel - -----Original Message----- From: catman To: LRFye@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 3:41 PM Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) >Pasta Twisted > >My Fetta To You > >Tiger Bones Stew >Sunny Sunday topped with nuts and caramel >Magdalene Laundries-crisp bread and vichy soize >Not To Flame - raw fish salad >Lead Balloon-spotted dick and custard >Passion Play -passion fruit and whipped cream >Borderline-leftovers mixed together with egg and fried-is it food? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:52:29 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) Davina wrote: > Come on everyone let's do the cookbook for her bday!!! There are exactly six weeks from today until the day before Joni's birthday. Is this enough time to do the cookbook right? I propose that we vote on whether to do the cookbook for Joni's birthday, or for the winter holidays. Les, is there an easy way to collect votes? Should we use the birthday address? Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:12:21 -0400 From: trxschwa Subject: 'stay in touch' oddity (jc), joni at the gardan coyotes, (another nice one, jamiejake) i was browsing the terrific new ttt pages today, reading some of the reviews from jmdlers who've heard advanced copies. one mentions wayne shorter's sax on 'stay in touch', and one of the media reviews sent to the list this week did the same. even the credits say SAX - WAYNE SHORTER GUITAR AND KEYBOARDS - JONI MITCHELL i suspect wally got this from the pre-release liner notes. funny thing is, it's not a sax, and not wayne. it's mark isham doing his trademark trumpet with a mute. we'd heard he was on the album, but i think this is the only cut, unless he's deep in one of the mixes. it's absolutely his usual romantic, melancholy sound, though. no offense to those who misidentified; muted trumpet isn't heard in pop, much. the trumpet is the only instrument i ever played and the moment i heard it with a mute, i knew it was one of my lifetime favorite sounds. just sends me, which is one reason why i keep on talking up isham on list. i just hope they reprinted the liner notes. i wonder when it changed. did shorter record stuff for this song, only to have it dropped, like some of brian blade's contributions were? like others, i'm struggling with shorter's contributions to this album. his best collaborations have come to seem so inevitable to me, see 'corrina, corrina', 'cherokee louise', 'sunny sunday'. not much of him on this album hits me that way (crazy cries, and havana, of course). i get a little bored, just like the reviewer. but unlike that poor sap, i can keep listening. i've also heard a tape of the recent 'garden' concert. first, even on an iffy tape i'm convinced it's one of the best vocal performances of her career, far better than any of the la shows or anything else tape-treed. but also, what a pleasure it is to hear isham's contributions. i think the trumpet is muted in every number, too, except maybe 'trouble man'. oh god , i hope we hear trouble man, the man i love, summertime, comes love on this fall tour. and when she does that album of standards, it should close with 'blue motel room' in her new true blue homage-to-billie style. patrick np - mimi - soak ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:29:29 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Subject: TTT review (SJC) - PEDAL STEEL! In a post on Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:57:39 +-100 Hassan Zubairi writes Thanks Jamiejake for the review(s) - just oticed the second one - and well spotted - DRUMMER Larry Klein indeed! However, glad to hear that (a) Joni is using pedal steel in her sonic pallete again - I love her use of it (b) someone appreciates it and recognises it - it crops up more often than I think is noticed. One of my favourite textures in Joni's non-Hissing-of-summer-lawns music is the section in "California" when the pedal steel enters on the line Oh it gets so <"waaaaah" > lonely .... OK - it's a bit corny but it expresses a sentiment exactly. Pedal steel seems to be an under-rated and unrecognised instrument when it's used out of its old "country " ghetto. I also gather it's a real pig to play..... does anyone have hands-on experience of it? David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:29:33 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Subject: BIOS (NJC ) OK - here comes a tale of the biter bit... Name: David Mascall Pedigree: British Mongrel Favourite book: At the moment "Captain Corelli's Mandolin" (a great, humane, funny book: AND lots of people buy it- which is nice to me from at least a couple of points of view) Favourite albums: "Hissing of Summer lawns", "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" - Pink Floyd , "Body and soul" - Joe Jackson - Angelo Badamenti's soundtrack to Twin Peaks, & many more Favourite quisine: Varies with mood Favourite color: Blue (preferably deep and without political connotations) Favourite angel: Rachel Favourite artist (as in brush & canvas):see above Favourite quote: Alan Arkin as Inspector Clouseau "There is a time for laughing,and there is a time for not laughing-and this is not one of them" (completely devoid of any sense but I still love it) Favourite recipe: Any involving FRESH Fish Favourite restaurant: From memory: "La France et Fuschias" St-Vaast-le-Houge, Normandy , almost any Greek taverna Favourite movies: "The Producers", "Heimat", "Zweite Heimat" (on video for comfort) Favourite pet: Rufus and Jasper(cats) - so long as Jasper isn't nibbling the back of my bare ankles first thing in the morning as an oh-so-subtle reminder that my first duty is to feed him before ANYTHING else. Favourite activities: Personal, whatever gets you through the night...., getting away from large crowds Favourite hobbies: Angling, mangling the Greek language, being a musical dilletante. Occupation: Bookshop co-owner (still not quite believing that that's what he's doing) Favourite guitar tuning:One that stays in tune for a decent length of time (perhaps indicative of cheapskate guitars I've owned). Same pitch as Piano when recording. Random annoying habit: overstaying welcome with realising it ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:29:32 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Subject: TTT review (SJC) - PEDAL STEEL! In a post on Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:57:39 +-100 Hassan Zubairi writes Thanks Jamiejake for the review(s) - just oticed the second one - and well spotted - DRUMMER Larry Klein indeed! However, glad to hear that (a) Joni is using pedal steel in her sonic pallete again - I love her use of it (b) someone appreciates it and recognises it - it crops up more often than I think is noticed. One of my favourite textures in Joni's non-Hissing-of-summer-lawns music is the section in "California" when the pedal steel enters on the line Oh it gets so <"waaaaah" > lonely .... OK - it's a bit corny but it expresses a sentiment exactly. Pedal steel seems to be an under-rated and unrecognised instrument when it's used out of its old "country " ghetto. I also gather it's a real pig to play..... does anyone have hands-on experience of it? David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 98 23:55:31 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: Re: SonicNet's Review of Joni in Chicago It never ceases to amaze me how 2 people can attend the same concert/movie/show and see and hear totally different things! But this is the type of Joni review I LOVE to read! -Kenny On 9/25/98 4:09PM JAN201@aol.com wrote: 09/24/98 Joni Mitchell Performs At Famed Folk-Music School Reopening SonicNet Daily Music News Reports: CHICAGO -- Legendary singer/songwriter Joni Mitchell displayed her classic folk-style Friday at the gala opening of the new home of the Old Town School of Folk Music. Mitchell's legendary voice wafted through the hall, creating the sense of warmth and musical intimacy that has helped define the genre through the years. As she sang, she accompanied her always poetic words with her trademark guitar-phrases and a subtle sway of her hips. From the start of her performance, Mitchell captivated the audience. She sang songs such as "Crazy Cries of Love" and "Facelift," from her upcoming album, Taming the Tiger, which is due Tuesday. And she regaled everyone with wry stories and anecdotes about her music. She led off with a series of newer songs, including "Slouching Toward Bethlehem," "Sex Kills" and "Turbulent Indigo," filling the acoustically dazzling performance-space with complex pickings from her deeply resonating electric guitar. And through it all, her vocals reigned supreme. Her voice has aged like a black-and-white photograph -- the grainier it becomes, the more it endows her words with a somber authority. Mitchell's performance was, in its singular way, the perfect tribute to the Old Town School of Music. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:05:09 EDT From: Gdlaubach@aol.com Subject: Re: Writing reviews at Amazon.com I just ordered TTT from amazon (good price!), and it will be sent on the 29th. When you look up an item on amazon, you have the option of giving your own personal review. Perhaps all the lucky ones that have it all ready could provide some insight to amazon customers...and improve the sales figures of one fine CD! I am not associated with amazon, and prefer to buy from locally owned record stores. I am, in fact, one of the ones that wrote love letters in high school to my long distance girlfriend (and did my homework) to the melodies of Blue, Ladies..., C&S, and MofAs, and XC skied on our river, under the full moon, humming, "I wish I had a river...." and I did! Skip Laubach Ridgefield, WA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 01:08:01 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: SonicNet's Review of Joni in Chicago Kenny Grant wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me how 2 people can attend the same concert/movie/show > and see and hear totally different things! Yes it is but we all perceive things differently, experience things differently, and interpret things differently. No two people will ever have exactly the same experience, perception or interpretation.Regarding our Joni-I don't listen to others opinions of her or of the music that is not my cup of tea. It won't change my mind about the Joni cd's I love nor the ones I don't. Just enjoy her. > > > But this is the type of Joni review I LOVE to read! > > -Kenny > > On 9/25/98 4:09PM JAN201@aol.com wrote: > > 09/24/98 > > Joni Mitchell Performs At Famed Folk-Music School Reopening > > SonicNet Daily Music News Reports: CHICAGO -- Legendary > singer/songwriter Joni Mitchell displayed her classic > folk-style Friday at the gala opening of the new home of the Old Town > School of Folk Music. > > Mitchell's legendary voice wafted through the hall, creating the sense > of warmth and musical intimacy that has helped define the > genre through the years. As she sang, she accompanied her always poetic > words with her trademark guitar-phrases and a subtle sway of her hips. > > From the start of her performance, Mitchell captivated the audience. She > sang songs such as "Crazy Cries of Love" and > "Facelift," from her upcoming album, Taming the Tiger, which is due > Tuesday. And she regaled everyone with wry stories and > anecdotes about her music. > > She led off with a series of newer songs, including "Slouching Toward > Bethlehem," "Sex Kills" and "Turbulent Indigo," filling the > acoustically dazzling performance-space with complex pickings from her > deeply resonating electric guitar. And through it all, > her vocals reigned supreme. Her voice has aged like a black-and-white > photograph -- the grainier it becomes, the more it > endows her words with a somber authority. > > Mitchell's performance was, in its singular way, the perfect tribute to > the Old Town School of Music. > > > - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 01:10:31 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) Spotted Dick is a heavy suet pudding with sultanas. Don't know why it is called spotted dick. It is long and extra fat sausage shaped..... since a person asked I thought I would tell the answer to you all ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 03:16:19 -0700 From: jussi Subject: TTT bought hello all, TTT has been available here in Finland since today, the 25th (the preceding Friday) -- that seems to happen here all the time. - --jussi np: need I say? - ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:14:24 -0400 From: "Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@compuserve.com> Subject: Four Star San Diego Review, Part II (Oh, forgot to mention the date: 9/24/98) Due in stores Tuesday, "Taming The Tiger" finds her writing and singing with poise and passion, while demonstrating renewed conviction. She often sounded glum and cynical earlier in this decade, including on "Turbulent Indigo," her Grammy Award-winning 1994 album, but "Taming The Tiger" is infused with optimism. As fiercely independent as ever, musically and personally, Mitchell -- who is also credited as the album's producer -- has rarely been as confident or playful. By turns complex and spare, ethereal and earthy, her beguiling music casts a potent spell as she re-asserts herself as a singular artist who bravely charts paths that others follow -- or avoid altogether. The 11-song album also marks a sonic breakthrough for Mitchell, a pioneer of unorthodox guitar tunings and advanced chordal voicings. Armed witha Roland VG8 guitar synthesizer, which allows her to digitally program myriad tunings with the flick of a finger, she can now quickly bring to life the adventurous sounds she hears in her head. Already, she has credited this high-tech instrument with helping to reignite her interest in music and fueling her desire to keep recording at a time when genre-leaping veterans of her depth and ambition are shunned by commercial radio programmers and many record companies. The results are liberating on "Taming the Tiger," be it the chiming, steel-drum-like sound she simulates with her guitar synthesizer on "Harlem in Havana"; the steely, power-chords-from-outer-space that accent "Lead Balloon"; or the ambient orchestral textures that provide an otherworldly backdrop on the album's lush, shimmering title track. Mitchell's voice has grown deeper and more expressive with age. Her supple, jazz-inspired vocal phrasing is more accomplished than ever, which easily compensates for her fading high range. And she benefits from the sensitive accompaniment provided by a small all-star cast. It includes Joshua Redman/Emmylou Harris drummer Brian Blade, who creates a lithe pulse that is felt as much as heard; bassist Larry Klein (Mitchell's ex-husband); k.d. lang pedal-steel guitar whiz Greg Leisz; and jazz giant Wayne Shorter, a longtime musical partner of Mitchell's, whose ingenious soprano-saxophone work is featured on five selections. (to be continued ...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:21:35 -0400 From: "Brian J. Moon" <75211.1225@compuserve.com> Subject: Four Star San Diego Review, Part III Her impeccably constructed lyrics are less confessional than on such classic albums as 1970's "Blue," but are no less provocative or moving. She covers a broad range of topics, from the aftermath of the rape of a Japanese girl by U.S. servicemen in Okinawa on "No Apologies" to Mitchell's contempt for the bankrupt aesthetics and fast-food marketing principles that rule pop radio and the music industry, which she chronicles on "Taming the Tiger's" seductive title track. The latter finds her slyly borrowing imagery from William Blake's poem, "The Tiger." The song includes such incisive lines as: The moon shed light on my hopeless plight / As the radio blared so bland / Every disc a poker chip / Every song just a one-night stand / Formula music ... genuine junk food for juveniles / Up and down the dial / mercenary style! But Mitchell's lyrics are not always about what they may seem to be. "Man From Mars," a stirring ballad that includes such wrenching lines as There is no center to my life now / No grace in my heart, is actually an ode to her beloved cat. And "Stay in Touch," which many longtime Mitchell followers will assume is about her recent reunion with the now-grown daughter she gave up at birth and her first meeting with the grand-daughter (sic) she never knew she had, is in fact about another, unspecified relationship. Obliquie or direct, Mitchell is a joy to hear from start to finish on "Taming the Tiger." She is also one of the few artists to rise to pop music prominence in the 1960s who is still fearlessly forging ahead to explore exciting new vistas. And that, like this splendid album, is just cause for celebration. (End) Hear, hear!! Lindsay Moon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:50:17 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: The Cookbook Cover Hi, Seems like the cookbook is a go whether we do it for Joni's B-Day or Christmas present. Mrs. Chili has volunteered to do the cookbook cover. She's spent the afternoon sketching a pic of Joni at the garden. Personally, I think if we all do our part, we could get this done for her B- Day. Is it possible to get the Birthday idea committee to expedite their decision? - -Chili ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:56:48 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Four Star San Diego Review, Part III >Hear, hear!! Now that's a review! Well-written, insightful and containing some depth. Thanks Lindsay for scribing this. I also appreciated the SonicNet review of the Chicago performance. These reviews were very refreshing. I think that sometimes negative reviews are not so much a matter of differing taste on the part of the reviewer, but rather, that they got out of the wrong side of the bed that day. Good catch, Patrick, on the Isham muted trumpet - I was starting to get confused by the attribution to Shorter. And I agree - the Garden is Joni's performance of the year to date. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:22:20 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: I'm A Little Green (NJC) OK? Hey Julius- Great review of the Metheny/Blade show. I wish I could have been there with you especially to celebrate your birthday. Pat's solo on Shadows and Light is one of the most lyrical and expressive guitar solos I have ever heard in my life. It always fills me up, everytime I hear it. I wish they would come here to the birthplace of jazz. We are here with an eye on the storm, that seems to be threatening to blow our skirts up. We may have to evacuate because we are already water logged here. Sean Lennon is at HOB tonight and I wanted to go catch him, but I am so behind on my digests... Best wishes Peace Michael NP-The Circle Game-featuring the Joni Mitchell Upstairs Backyard In and Outta Tune Choir (wow this tape is fantastic) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:45:13 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Hurricanes a blowing (NJC) Hey Pearl- Hope you are ok down there. It looks like a bad one. They are expecting it to hit here on sunday. I hope not, we are already waterlogged from the last to storms that hit here two weeks in a row. My prayers are with you. Michael NP-Little Green-Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:31:50 -0700 From: Steve Mixon Subject: Birthday Idea I agree that it would be difficult to get the cookbook to Joni in time, and it might better be sent as a Christmas present. "Like a pin on some map, some vicarious thrill." How about if we sent her a map or a globe, with some sort of representation as to where each of us lives... Just another off the wall thought.... Leslie Leslie Mixon http://www.cruzio.com/~stevem ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:19:27 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: OK I'm IN Bio (SJC) John Michael Paz aka: Pazeaux, PazToyToo, Paz fav book: The World According To Garp, Another Roadside Attraction, Still Life With Woodpecker,Jitterbug Perfume, The Hotel New Hampshire, 100 Year of Solitide, Owen Meany fav Joni album: For The Roses, Hejira, Shadows and Light fav Joni song to play/sing: Down To You, Same Situation, Chinese Cafe fav other artists: Pat Metheny, Yes, Beatles, Paula Cole, Sarah MacLachlan, Tori Amos, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Milton Nacimiento, Flora Purim, Rhythmstick, Chuck, Claud, Marian, Kakki, Ashara, Jim, Brian, and the rest of the upstairs backyard choir, and a thousands of other artists. fav cuisine: Sushi, Thai, Chinese (all kinds) fav cocktail: Gordon's Gin Martini slightly dirty and very chilled. Margaritas. fav color: all of the above fav pets: Turtles (except when they bark) fav angel: Ashara's Angels and the ones at Atty Mays' fav quote: Planned Randomness. I rectum sore. fav recipe: Spinach Salad fav restaurant: Brigsten's Dante Street New Orleans fav movie: The Wizard of Oz, The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm fav artists: Mitchell, Gaugain, Monet, Van Gogh Fav play: Hair Fav Place: Roatan, Guanaja, anywhere in Honduras, New Orleans, Malibu (breaking like the waves) fav activities: Duh. Music, Food, my Cyber Buddies on JMDL, sex (porbably in that order) travelling, travelling, travelling, beaches, fav hobbies: Guitar and Piano, VG-8 Tunings, Wally Page/JMDL, occupation: Daddy, Music Production, Video Production, Sales, musician ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:21:34 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Picking a wound (NJC) HEY ASHARA- Stop picking on Paul! You may upset his obviously delicate sensibility. Rather respectfully, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:57:23 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) So was I (smile) - -----Original Message----- From: LRFye@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 9:47 PM Subject: Re: cookbook (NJC) >Evian wrote: > >> some "sauteed plantains" > >That's a funny little synchronicity ... yesterday I was in the car thinking >about "Paprika Plantains" and what in the world those would taste like ... > >Lori >San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:09:18 PDT From: "Paul Roberts" Subject: Re: Blue Boy Dear all, I know, I've been awfully quiet save for one small request, so this is by way of being an event for me...but I have been improving my guitar skills and working on my own materials, as well as some Joni songs (I've recorded 'Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire' if anyone ever wants to hear*LOL*) and the only distressing thing is that I've never seen transcription of the song 'Blue Boy' from 'Ladies of the Canyon,' and I just adore that song... I can play the keyboards and guitar (both to a limited extent, but good enough to get by:) and would appreciate it if anyone could tell me where to find transcription of this wonderful song...for either instrument...or provide one for the list! That would really be wonderful. Anyway, since I'm on the digest version, pllleeeeease make the subject a prominent one about Blue Boy and not just a continuation of another subject or I might skim over it.:) Thanks again, sorry to be such a bother.:) Love! Phoenix ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 01:16:11 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Countdown to Taming Three more days. It will be the best of times. It will be the worst of times... I will run to my local Soundscan-using-CD-dealer and ask for 3 copies (throw a fit if they don't have that many!), and tell them to put more on order for me and all sophististicated Knoxvillians... I will run home and stick it in the box and turn the sound to maximum-without-distortion (love my vaulted/cathedral ceilings for this). I will lie on the centrally placed sofa between speakers, and float off in time when I heard our Joni doing some of these fine numbers in the flesh last spring and attempt to get over the shock at what has happened to me in this quarter of a year... Listening to Joni on Tuesday will be the BEST thing I do for myself all week. Remembering why Joni and other things were the culmination to the end of my marriage will be like those hammer sounds in "Harlem" being the death bell to matrimony in my ears, and the WORST thing I do to myself all week. Oh, that Lady of Duality. She will do it again. Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 01:01:43 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: RE: AJATT KGSR 107.1 KGSR is going to play TTT in its entirety this Monday at 11:00 p.m. I have already planned to take the evening off and drive around listening to the show. I called to thank them profusely and they preceded to play "Crazy Cries of Love" afterwards. She also told me if I beg real good she will give me the promotional single at a later date. I beg real well! Peace, Craig NP: NRH-Craig's Anniversary Special ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #375 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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