From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #370 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, September 24 1998 Volume 03 : Number 370 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: (NJC) A new thread:Bios [LRFye@aol.com] Re: Edith . . . [Mark Domyancich ] JMDL Cookbook??? [Mark Domyancich ] Re: A new thread:Bios ["Steven A. Blue" ] Re: A new thread:Bios [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] Joni Wedding Music [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] Re: A new thread:Bios [catman ] Re: TTT [Marsha ] Donovan VLJC ["Julie Z. Webb" ] your past and bro [catman ] SHIT!Re: your past and bro [catman ] Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) [Maggie McNally ] Re: BooHoo Zone (NJC) [Ashara@aol.com] Joni and the Next Generation [Ashara@aol.com] Re: Joni Wedding Music ["M & C Urbanski" ] Greetings and Videos ["Paul Roberts" ] Re: Greetings and Videos ["M & C Urbanski" ] To Mariana, XO Elliott [Marilune@aol.com] (NJC) lentil salad recipe [Maggie McNally ] Birthday Card Idea! [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Joni Wedding Music [TerryM2442@aol.com] Friday is Ticket Day in Chicago [Deeana Klepper ] Re: Joni and the Next Generation [LRFye@aol.com] RE: (VLJC) A new thread:Bios [Michael Yarbrough ] The Persuasions - Acapella Singer Wonders [Leslie Mixon ] Re: TTT/Nov 6 [DSK11 ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:33:26 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) A new thread:Bios Okay, I'll bite ... LRFye@aol.com aka: Lori Renee Fye born in: North Canton, Ohio living in: San Antonio, Texas fav book: A Confederacy Of Dunces (John Kennedy O'Toole) fav author: Rita Mae Brown fav album: Hejira (for the last 21 years) fav cuisine: Cajun fav color: most shades of green, and that shade of pink that makes me think of Teaberry Gum fav pets: 2 tabby cats, Chloe, 8, and Olive, 10, and a black cat, Urkelle, 10 fav angel: my brother Billy, gone from this Earth since December 1995 fav quote: If wishes were horses, all women would ride. fav recipe: my mom's fried zucchini (more of an exercise in patience than a recipe) fav restaurant: Ristorante Italia, across the street from my old apt in Bremerhaven, Germany fav movie and play: One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest fav activities: love making and travel fav hobbies: the JMDL! occupation: number cruncher and map maker for a Washington state orchard company ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:36:02 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Edith . . . YES! Because I AM one! ;-) At 7:11 PM -0400 9/23/98, Elaine Bean wrote: >I just love teen-agers, don't you? ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:39:36 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: JMDL Cookbook??? Julie Blau brought up the idea of a JMDL Cookbook-I second that emotion! :-) We have lotsa cooks on this list-perhaps we could put together everyone's favorite recipe-and we could put Joni's paintings in it! Man, I like this idea! :) ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:08:15 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: A new thread:Bios OK Gang, h'ere goes!!! Please forgive me chili if this doesn't sound right (smile) .. ....Thought for the day? "..........."He leapt from the helicopter, feet touching the ground like a gymnast sticking a perfect landing, he removed his flight helmet, smiled at her tearful eyes and said......."Honey ....I'm home" then picking her up in his arms, he promised after the gulf war......he would retire and come home only to her............. Now Bio! :SAB :AKA Steven Alexander Blue :FAV BOOK: A Stone For Danny, Harold Robbins FAV ALBUM: Blue; Court and Spark; Hissing of Summer lawns; Roberta Flack; Janis Ian FAV Cuisine: Roast; And lots of VEggies....did I say lots of Veggies? (smile) any kind will do! FAV COLOR: Blue (lucky Guess right) esp turbulent indigo-- >fav pets: Dog, mutt, mostly sheppard, blue (deceased, 1996) >fav angel: Deborah (soon to be Mrs Blue) >fav quote: "Well there it is then" >fav recipe: Broiled Roast, Deborah's Game Hen Yousa! (recipe available upon request) >fav restaurant: The whales Tale, Olympia WA >fav movie and play: War and Rememberance; "Our Town" >fav activities: working out (again/golf) (with deborah), cooking, gardening >fav hobbies: who done it....or who didn't done it (smile) >occupation: Great Thinker (smile) Real Job: President/Owner, Wolfgaarde, Investigations. Pittsburgh, PA....soon to be Mrs Deborah Blue's husband > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:55:58 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: Re: A new thread:Bios Okay this is fun...I'll play! Bios Davina@pacificsw.com aka Davina Greenstein soon to be Davina Greenstein-Anderson (pheww!) fav book: The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein fav album: ( a tough one) Ladies of the Canyon, Hejira, Everybody Knows this is Nowhere ~N.Young, Harvest fav cuisine: Thai food and anything chocolate fav color: green fav pets: My lab Buddy and cat Lucy fav angel: Those evil angels they talk about in the Passover Haggadahs...lol fav quote: Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - A. Einstein fav recipe: Mom's Beef Stroganoff fav restaurant: Chao Praya - Hollywood, CA fav movie and play: Made in Heaven fav activities: gardening, reading, having patio dinner parties, laying in my hammock, anything outdoors fav hobbies: collecting depression glass, building patio furniture, painting, watching Mystery Science Theater occupation: Marketing Director for a software company ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:30:09 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: Joni Wedding Music Hi All! I need some feedback from all of you on what Joni music would be appropriate at a wedding. Mine is just around the corner now, November 1st. and I would love some suggestions. Pre-ceremony, post ceremony, reception etc! I remember the Bar/Bat Mizvah Joni thread that circulated a while back, but can't seem to remember the suggestions. Also...if any of you can recommend a great band or DJ in the L.A. area that's available on this date, please email me privately. I'm still hedging on a music provider :~) I can't believe what a procrastinator I am! Thanks a bunch! Davina np: Cherry Poppin Daddies.....Zoot Suit Riot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:39:08 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: A new thread:Bios Davina Greenstein wrote: > Okay this is fun...I'll play! > > Bios > Davina@pacificsw.com > aka Davina Greenstein soon to be Davina Greenstein-Anderson Not me!Colin Andersson > (pheww!) > fav book: The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein > fav album: ( a tough one) Ladies of the Canyon, Hejira, Everybody Knows this > is Nowhere ~N.Young, Harvest > fav cuisine: Thai food and anything chocolate > fav color: green > fav pets: My lab Buddy and cat Lucy > fav angel: Those evil angels they talk about in the Passover Haggadahs...lol > fav quote: Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from > mediocre minds - A. Einstein > fav recipe: Mom's Beef Stroganoff > fav restaurant: Chao Praya - Hollywood, CA > fav movie and play: Made in Heaven > fav activities: gardening, reading, having patio dinner parties, laying in > my hammock, anything outdoors > fav hobbies: collecting depression glass, building patio furniture, > painting, watching Mystery Science Theater > occupation: Marketing Director for a software company - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:42:02 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Re: TTT Ashara@aol.com wrote: > Wally, how can you DO this to us??????????? ;-) > In a message dated 9/23/98 4:58:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wallyb@well.com > writes: > > I'll say this much- > don't make any plans for the evening of Friday, November 6th... >> My guess is that some ghost of her old ideal might be running on channel five? Marsha, really hoping for a kicker of a live performance somewhere with ALL of us in attendance to wish her a happy BD at midnight ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:45:17 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Donovan VLJC In a previous post I had mentioned that friends of mine had participated in a workshop at the Omega Institute, near Woodstock, taught by Dovovan. At the end of the week Donovan had mentioned he was excited about the upcoming weekend, because he was going to be seeing his very good friend, Joni Mitchell, who he hadn't visited with in a long time. He said that he was going to give a concert of some kind. Several people emailed me privately, asking about Donovan's workshop. The following is a description of the course thanks to our Ashara: >I thought you might be interested in the descrpition of the course that >Donovan taught at Omega. I have the brochure on the front shelf where all the >brochures are, and I typed it for you. He taught there August 10-14, so it >finished the day before he performed at the Garden! ">You may know Donovan as one of the most magical voices of the sixties, but you >may not know that he is also one of the last practicing Celtic Filis (poets >and seers), a devoted parent and grandparent, and a delightful teacher. From >his early hits in the 1960's to his most recent critically acclaimed release, >"Sutras", he is known throughout the world for his ability to kindle a sense >of the spiritual. Last summer he thrilled Omega with his workshop for artists >and an evening concert that will go down in Omega history. This year he and >his wife and teaching partner, Linda Leitch, come to Family Week to work with >anyone interested in living life as a mythic journey. > >It is possible to approach daily life as an adventure that twists and turns >through peaks and valleys, just as in the stories of old. This week we use >ancient myths, storytelling, music, and other art forms to free our creativity >and to learn to live with a new sense of courage and purpose. As we relax in >the magical surroundings of the Omega campus, with Donovan's spontaneous >performances as our soundtrack, we begin to re-write the scripts of our lives. >Through discussions, readings, video clips, and music-making, we explore the >mythic dimension of our personal lives; we discuss raising "mythical >children"; and we ponder how to infuse today's culture with the myth and magic >that is sorely lacking. Together we listen quietly to the song of the >universe, allowing it to reach beyond our reasoning minds and deep into our >subtle senses and our very souls. No artistic or musical experience required; >only a desire to explore the timeless mysteries with a sense of adventure and >joy. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:57:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: your past and bro Thinking back about how I used to be no longer fills me with shame. I did not know better or could not act better than I did. My state of mind and self were very very fragile and I was ignorant of many things I needed not to be ignorant of. I slept with many people I did not want to but I was unable to say NO. No was only something I learned about much much later. I cannot blame dugs or booze(still drugs) because I did these things sober too. Rather I look back on myself back then with compassion most of the time. he was really lost and ignorant and so full of pain and self hate and so wanting to be loved. He bore no malice to anyone. He just didn't know how to be an adult, how to protect himself and because he felt like the worst person ever born, he was unable to see that others were not all coming from a place of kindness. Guilt is a waste of time. It achieves nothing and assumes a power we did not have then. It also assumes one cannot be forgiven which is incorrect. Forgive yourself and put yourself and your recovery first. As m,uch as you love your brother, you cannot recover for him and you musn't let your thoughts of power over him and his illness ruin your own life. He is lucky to have a sister who loves him. Sorry for the lecturing tone. hugs colin - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:02:40 +0100 From: catman Subject: SHIT!Re: your past and bro This just arrived back from Joniland. It was meant for another list. ignore. (too late I guess) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:46:19 -0400 From: Maggie McNally Subject: Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) Hey Katie! I am fresh back online and am making my way through yeserday's and today's posts before posting to the list. Couln't resist responding to your post though. When my computer broke I told Ashara (just before NEJoniFest, dontchaknow) that my computer at home (and my only on-list computer) was just one big BooHoo. You are not alone. ;-) Hi everyone, I am glad to be back with my big/little community. I have missed you all madly and have much to say about MY NEJoniFest experiences, but NOW there are new subjects like the album release and an east coast tour. Holy smokes!! For those who asked, I plan to post the lentil salad recipe. For those who don't want it, please accept my apologies in advance. Just delete. Best, Maggie Cordial Culinary Queen At 08:04 AM 9/23/98 EDT, you wrote: >Something very strange is happening to me. I find myself using the phrase >"BOO HOO" alot these days. I have now entered the BooHoo Zone. I use it in >my conversations, in my emails, and occasionally have my own little boo hoos >now and then (especially during that time of the month dontchaknow). >Thankfully, no big Boo Hoos. Anyone else experiencing this Joni Phrasing >phenomenon? Do I need help? I haven't been telling my boss yet to Kiss My >Ass so I guess that's good news. > >Katie from the Cape > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:58:49 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Re: BooHoo Zone (NJC) WELCOME BACK MAGGIE!!!!!!!!! WE MISSED YOU!!!!!!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:18:25 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Joni and the Next Generation Hi everyone! I haven't posted much lately, because I am extremely busy, but I just had to tell you this one. My 4 boys would rather die than listen to Joni. They just have never appreciated, (or even tolerated) her music. So, I usually listen in the car *after* dropping them off, or at home while they're in school. However, since receiving a promotional CD of TTT from a wonderful, incredible Jonifest party-goer as a hostess gift, I have drawn the line, and basically told them "If you want a ride, you're listening to Joni." (Is this an offer they can't refuse, or what?) When my 15 year old first heard Harlem in Havana, he really *listened*! He looked at me, and said "I kind of like this!" (Whoa!!!! What is happening here? Way to go, Joni!!) He likes jazz influences, and I think that's why it grabbed him. A few days later, he came downstairs, and asked if I had the original Joni song that Janet Jackson took her "Got til it's Gone" from, (is the Pope Catholic?) because he wanted to listen to it. After I finally got my mouth off the floor, and closed it, I asked him if he wanted it on vinyl, CD, or cassette. :-) I warned him that this was early Joni, and pretty "bare bones" As he took the CD upstairs to listen to, I just stared at the now empty floor where he was previously standing. (*My* son took Ladies of the Canyon upstairs, to that holiest of holies {his room} to put on an *early* Joni album?) I was totally convinced that I was either dreaming, or "on" something that I had forgotten I had taken! After about a day or two had passed, I casually asked him what he thought of the album. He said he thought it was "pretty good". He went on to say that he really liked the song Woodstock, and did I have any more albums that were kind of like the one I had just given him. (Are you kidding? ARE YOU KIDDING?!!!!????!!??) Only this time, he wanted them on vinyl. Trying to play it totally cool, I said, hmmm, let me see if I can find you some. (hahaha!) I handed him Blue and Court and Spark. That was this afternoon. I am still in shock, and thinking of taking up drinking, or Prozac, or maybe fly-tying. I really can't believe this whole scenario! THERE IS A GODDESS!!!! (And hope for the next generation!) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:23:21 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: Joni Wedding Music - ---------- > From: Davina Greenstein > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Joni Wedding Music > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 8:30 PM > > Hi All! > > I need some feedback from all of you on what Joni music would be appropriate > at a wedding. Mine is just around the corner now, November 1st. and I would > love some suggestions. Pre-ceremony, post ceremony, reception etc! I > remember the Bar/Bat Mizvah Joni thread that circulated a while back, but > can't seem to remember the suggestions. > Davina I would think Jericho, Night Ride Home, My Secret Place, Underneath the Streetlights, Solid Love, and Love would be a few good ones. Both Sides Now is always a classic. I taped those songs for our honeymoon. After seven years, I still look back on our honeymoon with joy when I here those songs! Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:27:39 PDT From: "Paul Roberts" Subject: Greetings and Videos Dear all, Hi! I'm new to this list and wanted to say hello, this is my first posting to the list, and I'm in the digest version of the ML...my main reason for coming here was to ask about any copies of Joni's videos available, under Wally's advice. I was curious about being able to watch 'Shadows and Light' and 'Refuge of the Roads,' not to mention her other various music videos like 'Two Grey Rooms,' 'Come In From the Cold,' and 'How Do You Stop'...can anyone help? Even though I'm a practically penniless student, I can provide blank tapes and postage, and I try to be a nice guy too!:) Hope someone can help. If at all possible, please respond directly to my address so I can pick out the message from the digest...I really appreciate your time and help. Love, Phoenix ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:36:36 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: Greetings and Videos - ---------- > From: Paul Roberts > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Greetings and Videos > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:27 PM > > Dear all, > > Hi! I'm new to this list and wanted to say hello, this is my first > posting to the list, and I'm in the digest version of the ML...my main > reason for coming here was to ask about any copies of Joni's videos > available, under Wally's advice. > I was curious about being able to watch 'Shadows and Light' and > 'Refuge of the Roads,' not to mention her other various music videos > like 'Two Grey Rooms,' 'Come In From the Cold,' and 'How Do You > Stop'...can anyone help? Even though I'm a practically penniless > student, I can provide blank tapes and postage, and I try to be a nice > guy too!:) > I am in the process of having shadows & Light taped for another JMDL member. Give me your address & I'll make one for you too. Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:37:54 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: To Mariana, XO Elliott i'm ready to go 'cos you laugh and talk and 'cos you make my world rock... -elliott smith last night, I saw elliott smith at the Roxy Theatre. simply put, it was the best concert i have ever been to and i will never forget the experience. ever. it was made of that irreplaceable starstuff that gets in your eyes and your hair and never *really* leaves. it's the rose-colored dust that even time can't dim, that makes you sparkle on the darkest of days, and keeps you up all night twenty years later. i hope heaven is an Elliott Smith concert. future butterfly gonna spend the day higher than high you'll be beautiful confusion once i was you i saw you caught between all the people out making the scene and bright ideal tommorow don't go to far stay who you are... -elliott smith my relationship with the Roxy is...well...i'm not going to explain about the first time i was there. it's not worth getting into. suffice it to say, i still have the napkins on which I scribbled song lyrics and then cried into, blurring the ink. and they're still smudged with the glitter make-up i was wearing. but this time, it was different. i was going alone. i knew and loved the music. i knew the ropes of small club concerts. so as i took my place in line, i waited for some feeling of...well, some feeling of ANYTHING. i picked out the spot where i sat way back in may in fishnet stockings, waiting for my parents to come get me, feeling so absoulutely miserable, i cannot even put it into words. back then, the flashing red sign featuring the rocking "r" seemed blurry and too bright for my eyes. well as i stood in line, i felt....NOTHING!!! no residue of before, no tinge of misery, no unhappy thoughts, no reoccurence of feelings that could ruin my evening. i didn't disregard it. i think it's important to remember who i used to be in order to know who i am now. and i can say, i'm not ashamed of any of the feelings i had. not one little bit. actually, i'm a little proud of them, if at all possible. i think i bled enough for two people and if you-know-who didn't recognize what that meant, well, it's too late now, isn't it ("said your final word/ but honesty and love could have kept us together/ one day you'll see it's worth it after all/ if you ever want to say you're sorry you can give me a call" -elliott smith)? but i'm off track here. they let us into the Roxy at 8. the rule about posters in these small clubs is basically, free-for-all! i took advantage of my good place in line to nab two posters off the walls. i got a good standing room spot extremely close to the stage. there, i met up with some girls who were to become my group that night. some of us would hold the spots while the rest of us went out to smoke and then come back in. i got a front row spot for Quasi, the opening act. now quasi abs. rocks! it's two people, janet weiss drummer and sam coomes (sp?) organ and guitar. i had been chatting with a girl about bands and stuff. we talked about fugazi, sunny day real estate, sleater-kinney, the pixies, and other highly enjoyable bands. i had just finished telling her how much i adored the breeders when quasi opened....with a breeders song! it was amazing, incredible, perfect. the song was "do you love me now?" and favorite of mine. janet weiss is positively beautiful when she plays. they played a fairly long set. sam was amazing on his organ. for the very last bit of the show, he was jumping on it and throwing his legs over it and all sorts of crazy shyte. when sam took guitar, elliott came on to play bass. when quasi's set was over, i went outside with another girl to smoke and just generally chat. she liked joni too. they were selling vinyl versions of Elliott Smith, Either/Or, and XO inside for 10 bucks. I invested in XO and later, a small vinyl single of "Division Day". now...elliott......he is absoulutely beautiful. he was smiling more and laughing and even blew a kiss to the audience at the end of the show. i don't know if it's him or me or us both...but really, this show was so much better than the one at the Troubadour. one, it was longer, two it was happier, three better places to see. elliott opened his set with "independence day" from XO. he then went on to play most of the stuff from XO and some stuff off Either/Or. No order here, but he played: "sweet adeline","waltz #2 (xo)", "independence day", "bled white", "bottle up and explode!", and "i didn't understand" from XO and "speed trials", "alameda", "ballad of big nothing", and "pictures of me" from Either/Or. He also did some cover stuff and "Division Day" which isn't on any album. my favorites were "Alameda" (it's one of my favorite songs ever), "pictures of me, "bottle up and explode!", and "waltz #2 (xo)". he finished up the first set solo with "i didn't understand" once quasi had gone offstage. we brought him back for an encore in which he put his guitar back on and asked the audience, "what do you want to hear?" the response was overwhelming. i could make out certain tunes, such as "say yes", and "last call" both from earlier albums. he chose to play "st. ides heaven" from Elliott Smith. He then played "baby britain" from XO and finished with "say yes". we brought him back for yet another encore. he played a cover which i don't know the name of, but starts, "give me love, give me love, give me peace on earth..." elliott was smiling and playing wonderfully. i was dancing and singing along and just having the greatest time. after the show, i saw some other crossroads kids, namely brian cunningham who's just so nice, even if he is a little spacey and ben grass, who was at the troubadour show too. i talked to some staff people and they told me that if i waitied around a bit, i'd probably be able to meet elliott. so i did. but roxy people are pushy and were shoving me out the door quickly. i placed a quick call to my mom- it was only 11, roxy shows are early- and told her to come get in about 15 minutes, 'cause i was waiting for elliott. i hung around outside with brian and his friends a little, but then they left and i was with a college student who was taking pictures and her mum who's in the music business. they told me elliott was really nice and that if i just waited, he'd proabably sign my posters and records. as i waited, i saw the bassist from Hole come out and Courtney Love too. she's fatter on tv. the music people gave me gossip on people in the biz: tori amos is spacey and not all there, greenday is really nice, courtney gets a little loaded from time to time, and leonardo dicaprio is really gay but goes out with the occasional model because it's good for his rep. WELL....as time wore on, i got more and more nervous. but Quasi emerged and I knew elliott could not be far behind. and then, lo-----he emerged! "elliott," i said (isn't it weird how you can call someone you only know through music by their first name and be perfectly comfortable with that), "would you mind signing some stuff for me, please?" "sure.", he said and came over and honest to god he was beautiful. he was so sweet. he asked me what my name was and then how to spell it and signed all my posters "To mariana, love elliott", except the single which he signed "to mariana, XO elliott". i told him that he was my absoulute favorite artist ever and he sort of laughed and said,"thanks". later, i told him that i had him on my spanish folder and he laughed and seemed kind of shy. he signed my ticket too. he was so sweet and wonderfully nice. the posters are up on my wall...to mariana, love elliott. today i told brian he should have waited around a bit longer, ha ha ha. i wish i was there at the concert tonight...but my parents are satanic. one day i will go to all the concerts i want to. i spent two hours copying the entire escapade into my journal and went to bed at 2 am. the photographer told me she'd send me copies of his concerts and some photos if they came out good. it was a great experience and i'm so happy about it. elliott is truly the best thing to happen to me since joni. he's great to put it mildly. to anyone who hasn't heard him, go out and hear him! he's sooo worth it. as i wrote in my journal last night: to elliott: you are a wonderful, beautiful, sweet soul and i adore you. thank you for saving my life. xo, mariana - -mariana NP: elliott smith! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:52:46 -0400 From: Maggie McNally Subject: (NJC) lentil salad recipe Hi all, To those of you who were present at Ashara's magical NELaborDayJoniFest, I send my warmest hellos and howyadoings. To those of you who were not able to join us -- you were missed. As Chuck E. stated so beautifully and simply (and deleriously ;-)) the next day, everyone gave what they had to give. I had the joy of cooking for a very groovy group of people, and since cooking is MY art, and a wonderful way to give back to all the talented musicians who gave their music so generously, it was a real pleasure to share what I could. It is especially neat now to read posts and have a face, smile, laugh, voice (!) to put with the cybervisit. Very cool. Several requests came for the lentil salad recipe, so here goes. The key here is the type of lentil you use. You need to have the French lentils. If you cannot get the lovely little French lentil, don't bother. It is a smaller lentil that holds its body and shape after cooking. Regular green lentils get too mushy. Yellow/orange one go to pieces (think dal). If you really want to make this and cannot find them, email me privately and I'll try to help you out. 1.5 cups small French lentils 1 medium carrot, peeled and diced into 1/8-inch squares 1/2 small onion, finely diced 1 bay leaf 1 clove garlic, minced 1/2 teaspoon salt place all of this in a pot with lots of water to cover and bring to a boil. simmer for about 20 minutes. While it is simmering, make the vinaigrette. juice and zest of one large lemon 1/4 teaspoon paprika 1 clove garlic, minced 1/4 teaspoon salt 6 to 8 tablespoons good olive oil put all ingredients but oil in a small bowl. whisk in olive oil to taste. flavors should balance salt and tart and olive oil. when the lentils are done cooking, strain off the liquid, remove bay leaf (if you can find it) and put in a bowl. toss the dressing over it and mix thoroughly. adding the dressing while the lentils are warm will allow the flavors to be absorbed. 2 red bell peppers roast red peppers over the flame of a gas stove, or under a broiler flame, or on a grill, until they are charred all over. place in a paper bag to steam, and finish with the rest of the ingredients. 2 teaspoons mint, cleaned, stemmed and chopped 3 tablespoons, cleaned, stemmed and chopped mixed herbs pepper sherry or red wine vinegar to taste 8 ounces feta cheese olive oil (optional) hang in there, you are nearly there! peel the charred skin off the red peppers and remove the seeds and chopped the peppers. put the lentils, peppers, and herbs in a bowl together and toss. add a little vinegar, to taste. when you are ready to serve, crumble feta cheese over the top and, if it seems a little dry, add some olive oil. don't be alarmed...it isn't so hard. the roasted peppers are the hardest part and can be done long before you make the salad. just coat with a little olive oil if you are going to do them in advance. ciao! Maggie Your Cordial Culinary Queen P.S. Warm hellos and thanks to my kitchen confederates: Michael Paz (still dreaming on those shrimp), Kakki (it DID feel like a commune, didn't it?), Marian (who graciously cleaned mushrooms), Jim (what great help you lent -- thanks!), and Claud (wasn't Ashara's pesto THE BEST?!?!? ;-0) Apologies if I have left anyone out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:47:05 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Birthday Card Idea! That's it! With the recent discussion of recipes and cookbooks, why not collect recipes and make a JMDL cookbook?? Think of the possiblities- Turbulant Tuna Patties Taming The Tamales Blue Jello.... I'd send this to the birthday card address but can't seem to find it. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:30:21 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Wedding Music In a message dated 98-09-23 20:31:46 EDT, davina@pacificsw.com writes: << I need some feedback from all of you on what Joni music would be appropriate at a wedding. >> TOP 10 JONI SONGS *NOT* TO PLAY AT A WEDDING 10. Harry's House 9. Cactus Tree 8. I Had A King 7. The Same Situation 6. Electricity 5. Blue Boy 4. Willy 3. Don't Interrupt The Sorrow 2. Last Chance Lost And the #1 Joni Song NOT to play at a wedding: Nothing Can Be Done Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:16:22 -0500 From: Deeana Klepper Subject: Friday is Ticket Day in Chicago Has anybody sluethed out the best Ticketmaster venue in Chicago for Friday? We'd be interested in any tidbits of info: when lines form, Tower vs. Hot Tix, purchase limit, plastic ok? etc. Email privately, maybe we'll meet up. Jeff and Deeana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:19:45 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and the Next Generation Ashara wrote: > THERE IS A GODDESS!!!! (And hope for the next generation!) Yes, there is a goddess, and don't be surprised, Ashara, if your son soon informs you that her name is Joni Mitchell!!! Yippee!!!! Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:12:14 -0400 From: Michael Yarbrough Subject: RE: (VLJC) A new thread:Bios mwyarbro@zzapp.org aka Michael Yarbrough fav books: _Crime and Punishment_ by Fyodor Dostoevsky; _Beloved_ by Toni Morrison fav albums: _Erotica_ - Madonna; _Plantation Lullabies_ - Me'Shell NdegeOcello; _OK Computer_ - Radiohead; _What's Going On_ - Marvin Gaye. Favorite Joni - HOSL fav cuisine: authentic Mexican, which does not exist where I live. I have substituted Ethiopian. fav color: chocolate fav pets: dogs, of which I have none fav angel: living - my boyfriend Sean; beyond living - my mother fav quote: I'm not really into quotes, but I think of this lyric a lot: "Desire no more what you already possess / You are already free," from Me'Shell NdegeOcello's "God Shiva" fav recipe: still learning--found this great jerk sauce one I like fav restaurant: Les Halles - Washington, DC fav movies: _Six Degrees of Separation_; _The Piano_; _Unforgiven_; _Annie Hall_; _Breakfast at Tiffany's_; _Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf_; _Blue_ (from the Trois Coleurs trilogy) fav play: _Six Degrees of Separation_ by John Guare; _Hamlet_ by Willie the Shake; _for colored girls..._ by Ntozake Shange fav activities: sex (duh); listening to music (duh); going to concerts (duh); discussing politics but *not* on the specific level, more theoretical; running fav hobbies: rock 'n' roll history; running; reading classic literature; sociology occupation: Deputy Administrative Assistant for a Member of Congress - --Michael NP: memories of the Artist/Chaka Khan/Larry Graham concert from which I just returned ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:51:58 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: The Persuasions - Acapella Singer Wonders The old man and I just got home after attending a concert by the Persuasions. I brought some prints of photographs I took of them a few years ago, and a vase with roses. I asked a roadie to deliver them to their dressing room. They invited audience members up on the stage to join them for "In The Still of The Night." I encouraged Steve and both of us wound up singing background vocals with The Persuasions. These are my homeboys, since I am originally from Brooklyn. Sweet Joe put his arm around me as I stood next to him at the microphone. After the show I spied the guys hanging out and inquired about the roses and the photos. Sweet Joe gave me a kiss on the cheek and said that he's taking them to Los Angeles where they are performing at McCabe's on Friday night. SoCal JMDLers do not miss this show! Friday is Sweet Joe's birthday! I took this opportunity to ask, "So what was it like performing with Joni during the Shadows & Light tour?'' Joe said, "It's almost impossible to put into words. It was very spiritual. I remember one night we were singing Shadows & Light at an outdoor concert and a full moon was rising. I felt like I was going to turn into a werewolf. Every time I look at the moon I think of Joni Mitchell." I told him that Joni was touring again and coming out with a new album next week. He said that he heard that and it made him very happy. Frank Zappa's widow, Gail, is producing their next album which they begin recording in November. The title is: Zappapella. Leslie Leslie Mixon http://www.cruzio.com/~stevem ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:58:11 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Persuasions - Part 2 I guess old habits die hard, or as they say, history repeats itself. http://gate.cruzio.com/~stevem/photos/pers.html I told Steve on our first date, if you don't like the Persuasions, then there's no hope for us. Joni has great taste in her guest vocalists - Chaka, Don Henley, Tom Petty, Willie Nelson, Michael McDonald, Lionel Ritchie, Kenny Rankin, J.D. Souther. We should compile the definitive list of guest singers on her albums. And lest we forget, Billy Idol. Leslie Leslie Mixon http://www.cruzio.com/~stevem ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:37:00 -0400 From: DSK11 Subject: Re: TTT/Nov 6 Wally Breese wrote: > I'll say this much- > don't make any plans for the evening of Friday, November 6th... THANKS FOR THE HINT WALLY!! OK, my Nov 6 is now clear and ready for the big surprise. Already it feels like a long time until Monday -- oh, oh, the anticipation, my, my! Debra Shea ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #370 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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