From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #369 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 369 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- personal ramblings about TTT [Evian ] Joni In Concert - No news today ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] [Fwd: Joni On Tour- no updates today] ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] UK JMDLers [Howard Wright ] Re: TTT lyrics (Anna) ["Deb Messling" ] Smelly Turd NJC ["Nixon" ] BooHoo Zone (JC) [kbarnicle@ensr.com] AMHERST! (JC) [kbarnicle@ensr.com] RE: TTT lyrics (Anna) [Michael Yarbrough ] SJC: Bad Boy Press Vol.1: The Lightness of painting [Chilihead2@aol.com] Typos corrected--Bad Boy Press Vol. 1 The Lightness of Painting [Chilihea] Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) [catman ] RE: Vonnegut (was Smelly Turd) NJC [Brett Code ] Re: JM at Old Town School of Folk Music--a little update ["Steven A. Blue] Poets for the Fall (NJC) [Thomas Ross ] JM Hotel [Howard Motyl ] Re: JM Hotel ["Steven A. Blue" ] My shrimp recipe [michael paz ] Re: My shrimp recipe [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Post Toasties [michael paz ] Attempting resend ;~D [Bmcd@aol.com] RE: BooHoo Zone (JC) ["Happy The Man" ] (NJC)Re: My shrimp recipe [Marsha ] NJCRe: My shrimp recipe [catman ] Joni inChi-town plea [daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us] Re: JMDL Digest V3 #367 SJC The Smelly Turd ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Joni as "Elevator Music" [LRFye@aol.com] TTT [Wally Breese ] Re: Attempting resend ;~D ["Don Rowe" ] RE: Joni as "Elevator Music" [Brett Code ] Re: TTT [Ashara@aol.com] Re: Joni as ["Don Rowe" ] Re: Joni as "Elevator Music" [LRFye@aol.com] A new thread:Bios [Chilihead2@aol.com] Re: A new thread:Bios [Mark Domyancich ] Edith . . . [Elaine Bean ] Bios Thread [Julie Blau ] NJClillith fair [catman ] re:a new thread [catman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:53:53 -0600 From: Evian Subject: personal ramblings about TTT I've been listening to TTT for the last few days, and I thought I might as well post my two cents about what I think of it. First listen, I thought, "well, its nice" but that was about it. However, driving home from Saskatoon last night, I threw the tape in and let it play... let me tell you, I was mesmorized by the time I got home! "Harlem in Havana" was something that I just didn't expect from Joni... wait, that's not what I mean exactly.. hmmm, I am having a hard time articulating this, bear with me! Anyway, HIH, something about the vocal just grabs me! "Man from Mars" is another track that has stuck to my soul... I have no idea why, but the first time I heard it, it somehow reminded me of Sinead O'Conner's "Success has Made a Failure of our Home". I have NO idea why, but I can see Sinead doing a great version of this song. At first, I kept thinking how great the song was, and then chuckling whenever I thought about it being written about the cat, but after a few listens, I felt like I lost both a lover AND a damn cat! "Love Puts on a New Face" is simply wonderful. If my memory is correct, it was written when Don Freed was here in Prince Albert working in the schools, and at this time of year, the leaves are again electric on the riverbank... I think probably the best "love song" from Joni yet. "Lead Balloon" I cranked up over and over... what a great, angry song, and with some rockin' music too! "Stay in Touch" really grabbed me, and made me think of everyone who has drifted in and out of my life over the years. I realize I am rambling, so I will skip to the last two tracks, since these songs coincided with the end of my trip home. "Facelift" was both joyful and sorrowful. It brought to mind a relationship that I had with this "older woman" when I was 17 and 18. She lived in Edmonton, and I lived in Prince Albert, so we only saw each other whenever my family went to Edmonton, and the parental disapproval was in overdrive... she was the ex of my cousin, blah blah blah, long boring story, but anyway, the song brought back memories of both trying to keep peace with my parents and family while still wondering "why isn't this joy not allowed?" During the last stretch of highway before I hit P.A., I kept rewinding "My best to you". It was dusk, the sun was setting in hues of pink and purple,contrasting against the barren wheat fields and the yellow leaves and green spruce trees. I lit smoke after smoke and I had no conception of where I was... I was simply drawn into the song and the landscape, feeling the lump in my throat rise as I listened to the song over and over again, thinking of past loves, crushes from high school, etc. It really got to me in a way that a song hasn't grabbed me for ages. I pulled into town with that song playing, got home to my new house with my new wife and our new puppy, and realized how blessed I was... something was lost with all the experiences of my past, but something was gained. It was a wonderful day....a great night ride home... Anyway, enough of my ramblings, quit snoring! ;) Evian np: Carole King - Tapestry (is it just me, or does "So Far Away" make you all weepy too?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:16:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni In Concert - No news today This post is materially unchanged from yesterday. The BDTS site has no new information, as of the last time I checked (Monday 10PM on the East Coast of the USA). I'm re-posting this summary of recent posts as a public service to those who might have been deleting whole digests recently. Possibly the best place to get tickets for the US shows will be through a web site called Bob Dylan Ticket Sales. They are http://www.well.com/user/smarcus/mailorder.html As of 4:14 am Eastern Time in the USA, on 9/23/98, the info is below is current with the BDTS web page above. It's been said that it's only 80% sure that Joni is going to open for Bob Dylan on these dates and cities: OCTOBER 23:Minneapolis, Minnesota (with Joni Mitchell) 25:Chicago, Illinois (with Joni Mitchell) 27:Indianapolis, Indiana (with Joni Mitchell) 28:Detroit, Michigan (with Joni Mitchell) 29:Toronto, Canada (with Joni Mitchell) 30:TBA (To Be Announced) 31:TBA November: 1:New York City, New York (with Joni Mitchell) There is no opening act yet named for this date: October 22:Duluth, Minnesota Notice that the To Be Announced dates are just before the single New York City date. It seems possible that there might be additional NYC dates. The BDTS folks sell tickets to BD shows via mail order and they are said to be strongly anti-scalper. Their services are not available for the shows in Canada. - - -- Restating the obvious, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:57:31 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: [Fwd: Joni On Tour- no updates today] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------6A23462B4DC7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** - --------------6A23462B4DC7 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail.one.net for jlamadoo (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Wed Sep 23 04:47:46 1998) X-From_: jlamadoo@one.net Wed Sep 23 04:47:39 1998 Received: from port-52-31.access.one.net ([206.112.194.35] HELO aptiva ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 9220]) by mail.one.net with SMTP id <11003-15915>; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:47:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3608B7AF.61E8@one.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:56:15 -0400 From: Jim L'Hommedieu Reply-To: jlamadoo@one.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jlamadoo@one.net Subject: Joni On Tour- no updates today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This post is materially unchanged from yesterday. The BDTS site has no new information, as of the last time I checked (Wednesday at 4:14 am Eastern Time on the East Coast of the USA). I'm re-posting this summary of recent posts as a public service to those who might have been deleting whole digests recently. Possibly the best place to get tickets for the US shows will be through a web site called Bob Dylan Ticket Sales. They are http://www.well.com/user/smarcus/mailorder.html Wally said that these dates are confirmed. 10/23 - Target Center - Minneapolis, MN 10/25 - United Center - Chicago, IL 10/27 - Market Square Arena - Indianapolis, IN 10/28 - The Palace - Detroit, MI 10/29 - Maple Leaf Center - Toronto, Ontario 11/1 - Madison Square Garden - New York City A seventh show is now being negotiated, which will be scheduled either on 10/30 in Ottawa, Canada or on 10/31 in Amherst, Mass. More on this and possibly more concerts soon... ) There is no opening act yet named for this date: October 22:Duluth, Minnesota The BDTS folks sell tickets to BD shows via mail order and they are said to be strongly anti-scalper. Their services are not available for the shows in Canada. - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** - --------------6A23462B4DC7-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:10:15 +0100 (BST) From: Howard Wright Subject: TTT lyrics (Anna) Steve Dulson wrote: > >In TTT, the song, Joni has said that Sophia is both Sophia >Loren, and the goddess of wisdom. In the last verse she >sings "And I thought of Anna, wild and dear, like fireworks >in the sky" > >So who's Anna? > Am I the only one who hears this as: "And I thought of honour" ? It reminded me a little of the speech Joni gave when she got the award for best production on TI. She starts off by saying something like "I've been thinking a lot about humility and honour recently ..." While we're on a lyrics theme, what about: (In "Stay In Touch") During times like these the wires are influential vs. During times like these the wise and influential ??? Howard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:12:14 +0100 (BST) From: Howard Wright Subject: UK JMDLers From: Dmascall@aol.com >> Where are you anyway? As you'll have gathered, Jamie, Colin and me are >> in London, Rob is in Winchester, Lisa is somewhere further north, and >> I'm not sure about Patrick and any others.>> >I'm one of the "any others" and live in Fareham (Hampshire). > >David Mascall I'm another "other" - living in Edinburgh. As far as I know, I'm the only JMDLer living in Scotland - but I'd love to be proved wrong! Howard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:30:20 +0000 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Re: TTT lyrics (Anna) > >So who's Anna? > > > Am I the only one who hears this as: > "And I thought of honour" ? The first time I heard it as "I thought of a hunter." Now I just don't know. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:15:26 +0200 From: "Nixon" Subject: Smelly Turd NJC Thanks to all those who took the joke well. And my apologies to any who didn't. I though pj's original comment was right on the money actually, and although his advice in that posting was to leave the whole thing alone, I just couldn't resist one last stab at it. Being serious now, I think that the booze and cigarettes idea is by far the neatest. It's cute and will give immediate sustenance to Joni. For all we know, she may have forgotten to go to the store the previous night, has run out of cigs and is cursing herself and absolutely gasping for a smoke when our package arrives... I don't have a credit card - I'll send a cheque for my share just as soon as the swine I'm working for in Italy have cleared my pay-cheque through my British bank account. And now... Curious coincidences No.1523: Whether the Vonnegut speech is a hoax or not, as a lifelong fan I can say that if it is a hoax, it's a good one. The funny thing is, three days ago I started writing a letter to Vonnegut. At this very moment the half finished tome is lurking in a cluster of my hard drive waiting to be finished. It's the first letter I've ever written to him, and will most probably be the only letter I'll ever write to him, but as the guy isn't getting any younger, I just thought I'd write him a typical fan's letter of deep appreciation (before it's too late...). In this letter I briefly discuss the problems that mere mortal fans have in effectively communicating their undying appreciation to stratospheric artists, writers and superstars. And by way of ilustration, I mention to Kurt the current Joni Birthday Gift problem which is going on in a far-flung corner of the Internet. Then blow me down (to use a quaintly genteel English pre-war expression) if a posting about Kurt Vonnegut doesn't suddenly show up on the JMDL! Slightly weird huh? Incidentally, if any Vonnegut fans on the list don't already know, there's an excellent Vonnegut website hanging in the ether. I can't be bothered to look up the URL at this moment, but you can find it easily by visiting my RomeLife website ( www.pronet.it/romelife ) and heading for the Links page, where I have it listed. In a low-cut blouse she brings the beers, Rousseau squirts some navy blue behind her ears. Tube. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 8:04:08 EDT From: kbarnicle@ensr.com Subject: BooHoo Zone (JC) Something very strange is happening to me. I find myself using the phrase "BOO HOO" alot these days. I have now entered the BooHoo Zone. I use it in my conversations, in my emails, and occasionally have my own little boo hoos now and then (especially during that time of the month dontchaknow). Thankfully, no big Boo Hoos. Anyone else experiencing this Joni Phrasing phenomenon? Do I need help? I haven't been telling my boss yet to Kiss My Ass so I guess that's good news. Katie from the Cape ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 8:17:51 EDT From: kbarnicle@ensr.com Subject: AMHERST! (JC) AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST (chanting for Joni to finalize her contract at Amherst) UMass Amherst is also my alma mater. I used to listen to Joni's Shadows and Light during my punk period at UMass (1980-1984) along with the Damned, Buzzcocks, lots of Boston bands (Pastiche, Neighborhoods, Human Sexual Response). Only Joni can withstand time and can travel with me through all my musical phases. Allright, everyone together now: AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST YAY! AMHERST Katie from the Cape ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:14:33 -0400 From: Michael Yarbrough Subject: RE: TTT lyrics (Anna) Deb wrote: <<>> I have also thought this on occasion. Especially with the "wild and dear" line following, which I thought might be a pun of sorts. For a long time I convinced myself it was "I thought of Ahana," whom I assumed was some goddess of hunting. Since this thread started I've looked through several mythology websites and found nothing on the elusive Ahana. I have a feeling the only thing Ahana's hunting is my sanity. I've also thought it might refer to a constellation. - --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:51:33 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: SJC: Bad Boy Press Vol.1: The Lightness of painting Hi, Yes, this is another one of my boring cyber journals, so if you find it just a little too sweet please delete now. BTW you'll be kissing my ass at my book signings. Well, here it is the first day of autumn in my part of New England. The novel is almost done, and it has been the hardest thing I've ever accomplished. I am in my last rewrite and it is the most painful, all this despite the years I've polished it. The next one will go much faster and is beginning to manifest itself now. No, you won't get a synopsis. Most synopses sound stupid. Moby Dick becomes one big fish story. You will get a title, "The Coconut Cafe". People have asked me for copies. My attitude is or should I say badittude is much like Joni's "if you have the money or if you're a friend to me." I am tired 36 years 37 next month and I am just now beginning to no longer feel young. It's been 7 years of dealing with this chronic back condition, the 3 ops, the doctors and lawyers threatening me over medical bills. The just when I get myself together and then another op, is just getting a little tired. It's like rebuilding a house after a hurricane when there's no foundation. That's why I became an aids volunteer and a Buddhist. It was that or small firearms. The light here is golden this time of year. The first frost usually occurs about the 7th of October, we're at 1000'. There is so much left to be picked in the garden. You get the frost warnings and you've got to go out and pick everything. Mrs. Chili made eggplant parmigiania, bushels full literally, and we put it in the freezer. Every party we go to from here until it runs out, we bring eggplant parmigiana. Today it will be my turn to work magic on the tomatoes and turn them into jars of sauce. I was a bodybuilder in my 20s and now just doing something like this just causes pain and fatigue. Still, when it's late February and your just about to wave the white flag after a winter of especially heavy snow, you open one of these and it's "Summer in a jar". You realize that's what you did all that for. From getting out in the mud in May through the harvest. The light is not just golden, it is the most important thing about autumn, the one thing that makes it all tolerable, that cold turn into winter. It is the light of the Renaissance. We are about the same latitude as Florence, Italy. These are the clouds of Michelangelo, Muscular with gods and sungold. If it wasn't for the beauty of the spring, summer and autumn, how could we stand the winter? How could anyone? Long after Mrs. Chili has herself gone into the garden, her paintings will stand and remember this golden light of 1988. My writing room overlooks the pool and I've had an inflatable beach ball that has been made from satellite pictures floating in it. A marbled rolling ball. It will float this way and I'll see Australia and think of Helly, or Europe and think of Marian and Colin and other friends that I know not connected through Joni. It still amazes me how WE are so easily connected by these little boxes and phones lines and our love for Joni. In Buddhist meditation, one practice is called Metta. This is loving kindness and believe me "it's hard to have that point of view". You meditate on love, compassion, healing. Today I will start including the victims of the Magdalene Laundries in this practice. Mrs. Chili and I do this together. It is a very beautiful ceremony involving a Tibetan Singing Bowl and incense and chanting. Love, and May you all be well and Happy, - -Chili ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:03:01 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: Typos corrected--Bad Boy Press Vol. 1 The Lightness of Painting Hi, Yes, this is another one of my boring cyber journals, so if you find it just a little too sweet please delete now. BTW you'll be kissing my ass at my book signings. Well, here it is the first day of autumn in my part of New England. The novel is almost done, and it has been the hardest thing I've ever accomplished. I am in my last rewrite and it is the most painful, all this despite the years I've polished it. The next one will go much faster and is beginning to manifest itself now. No, you won't get a synopsis. Most synopses sound stupid. Moby Dick becomes one big fish story. You will get a title, "The Coconut Cafe". People have asked me for copies. My attitude is or should I say badittude is much like Joni's "if you have the money or if you're a friend to me." I am tired 36 years 37 next month and I am just now beginning to no longer feel young. It's been 7 years of dealing with this chronic back condition, the 3 ops, the doctors and lawyers threatening me over medical bills. The just when I get myself together and then another op, is just getting a little tired. It's like rebuilding a house after a hurricane when there's no foundation. That's why I became an aids volunteer and a Buddhist. It was that or small firearms. The light here is golden this time of year. The first frost usually occurs about the 7th of October, we're at 1000'. There is so much left to be picked in the garden. You get the frost warnings and you've got to go out and pick everything. Mrs. Chili made eggplant parmigiania, bushels full literally, and we put it in the freezer. Every party we go to from here until it runs out, we bring eggplant parmigiana. Today it will be my turn to work magic on the tomatoes and turn them into jars of sauce. I was a bodybuilder in my 20s and now just doing something like this just causes pain and fatigue. Still, when it's late February and your just about to wave the white flag after a winter of especially heavy snow, you open one of these and it's "Summer in a jar". You realize that's what you did all that for. From getting out in the mud in May through the harvest. The light is not just golden, it is the most important thing about autumn, the one thing that makes it all tolerable, that cold turn into winter. It is the light of the Renaissance. We are about the same latitude as Florence, Italy. These are the clouds of Michelangelo, Muscular with gods and sungold. If it wasn't for the beauty of the spring, summer and autumn, how could we stand the winter? How could anyone? Long after Mrs. Chili has herself gone into the garden, her paintings will stand and remember this golden light of 1998. My writing room overlooks the pool and I've had an inflatable beach ball that has been made from satellite pictures floating in it. A marbled rolling ball. It will float this way and I'll see Australia and think of Helly, or Europe and think of Marian and Colin and other friends that I know not connected through Joni. It still amazes me how WE are so easily connected by these little boxes and phones lines and our love for Joni. In Buddhist meditation, one practice is called Metta. This is loving kindness and believe me "it's hard to have that point of view". You meditate on love, compassion, healing. Today I will start including the victims of the Magdalene Laundries in this practice. Mrs. Chili and I do this together. It is a very beautiful ceremony involving a Tibetan Singing Bowl and incense and chanting. Love, and May you all be well and Happy, - -Chili ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:35:05 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) In a message dated 9/23/98 8:07:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kbarnicle@ensr.com writes: << Anyone else experiencing this Joni Phrasing phenomenon? Do I need help? >> Don't feel bad. I'm still stuck on "Boom Boom Pachyderm". Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:43:35 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: BooHoo Zone (JC) TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/23/98 8:07:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > kbarnicle@ensr.com writes: > > << Anyone else experiencing this Joni Phrasing > phenomenon? Do I need help? >> > > Don't feel bad. I'm still stuck on "Boom Boom Pachyderm". Yes! I bet I know why.... > > > Terry - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:09:42 -0600 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: Vonnegut (was Smelly Turd) NJC I'm all for the booze and cigarettes idea, although I would have loved to see my little Calgary flag on the smelly turd. It's funny that you are writing to Vonnegut. I just finished reading Timequake and, on at least 10 occasions through it, I told myself that I absolutely have to write to thank him for a lifetime of joy, of insight, of laughter, of caring, of, as Kilgore Trout says at the end of Timequake, of awareness or soul. Love is touching souls, Joni tells us, and I think Vonnegut would agree. Anyway, you've inspired me to really do it. Dear Mr. Vonnegut. . . Brett np: Tapestry - "So Far Away" makes me weepy, too. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:55:19 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: JM at Old Town School of Folk Music--a little update Yes Howard, I second that motion! SAB - -----Original Message----- From: Gellerray@aol.com To: howard@mpimedia.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 3:21 AM Subject: Re: JM at Old Town School of Folk Music--a little update >ok howard, now that she is safely out of town, won't you tell us which hotel >it was? > >r ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Poets for the Fall (NJC) back heavily into my word-heroine Emily Dickinson. #628 They called me to the Window, for "'Twas Sunset" - Some one said - I only saw a Sapphire Farm - And just a Single Herd - Of Opal Cattle - feeding far Upon so vain a Hill - As even while I looked - dissolved - Nor Cattle were - nor Soil - But in their stead - a Sea - displayed - And Ships - of such a size As Crew of Mountains - could afford - And Decks - to seat the skies - This - too - the Showman rubbed away - And when I looked again - Nor Farm - nor Opal Herd - was there - Nor Mediterranean - * Robert Frost was doubtless listening hard to her: [from memory] Nature's first green is gold her hardest hue to hold her early leaf's a flower but only so an hour so leaf subsides to leaf so Eden sank to grief so day goes down to day - nothing gold can stay * TR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:06:05 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: JM Hotel Joni stayed at the Ritz-Carlton. But you didn't hear that from me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:34:30 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: JM Hotel Bravo Howard! - -----Original Message----- From: Howard Motyl To: joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 4:13 PM Subject: JM Hotel >Joni stayed at the Ritz-Carlton. > >But you didn't hear that from me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:26:16 +0000 From: michael paz Subject: My shrimp recipe Hi marian- I have to bring you some of my special seasoning from Honduras. I am going on Oct. 2 so I will bring some for you and mail it. The recipe is easy. A lot of people asked me to post this so here it is. I left my bottle of seasoning at the party so I hope someone found it and uses it. Butterfly Shrimp and clean well. Soak shrimp in a marinade of Orange Juice and Don Julio's Sour Orange and Black Pepper Seasonings (this also contains salt and cumin so you don't have to add any more salt unless you like that and the cumin adds a real interesting twist). I make a lemon butter to baste the shrimp with on the bar-b-que. This consists of real butter, real lemons or limes (I like limes better), plenty of my secret Don Julio seasonings) I melt the butter and add the lime juice slowly so the butter doesnt get all funky. I usually add the remaining marinade (of Orange juice)to this as well for basting while they cook. I always take the shrimp out of the marinade before I cook them and sprinkle more Don Julio's on them.(can you tell I am from New Orleans and over season???) You can substitute Lemon Pepper in this recipe and just add a little cumin to the mix. I am thinking of trying a variation of this recipe and adding some Grand Marnier into my marinade and baste routine. Have fun and enjoy. If you have access to real sour orange it works great. best, michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:29:44 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: My shrimp recipe In a message dated 9/23/98 12:26:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes: << Hi marian- I have to bring you some of my special seasoning from Honduras. I am going on Oct. 2 so I will bring some for you and mail it. The recipe is easy. A lot of people asked me to post this so here it is. I left my bottle of seasoning at the party so I hope someone found it and uses it. >> My guess, Michael, is that you should send Marian some fresh shrimp on ice along with the seasoning. I've never been there, but my reading about Austria does not indicate a large catch of shrimp from Austrian waters, though I suppose they can have them flown in from anywhere. Correct me if I am wrong, Marian. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:49:52 +0000 From: michael paz Subject: Post Toasties Kakki wrote: "Day in the Garden concert and Garden Parties The past couple of weeks I've received just a great assortment of tapes, mainly of which came out of exchanges at Ashara's party." Kakki- I have to say a big " me too" on your post. Thanx to Ken who sent me the Day In the Garden tape, which is fab. I have been really digging Brian's tape, but I was not fortunate enough to get a Claud tape, but hearing it on the New England Tour, I really loved it. I will probably get one from Claud when I see her at NYC 11-1-98 (what do you day Claud????) All these tapes and videos are really keeping me entertained while I am busy keeping up with my other life. Thanks to all. Great post! Love Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:05:23 EDT From: Bmcd@aol.com Subject: Attempting resend ;~D In a message dated 98-09-18 01:28:51 EDT, you write: << ----- Original message follows ----- Received: from Bmcd@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id SGTNa22618 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bmcd@aol.com Return-path: Message-ID: <926d827e.3601ef5c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:27:56 EDT To: jmdl@smoe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Various joni related Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 It's been such a long time since I've been to the list, read digests, or written. Starting a small business is nearly wrecking me. I hang in though, each day and feel good (in a small way) about the labor and the love I expend. And I have this mantra.... "it will get better, it will get better..." Some say I am delusional and it will never ever get better. Well, on to Joni topics..... I lost a lot of digest material due to Notepad scramble. so I'll repeat that after 24 years of being a joni FANatic I have discovered DJRD. Oh, yes, Julie Z. Webb, Cotton Avenue is sooo great, but I do think Paprika Plains is my favorite. I'm starting to think this was her pinnacle of genius. I on the other hand feel like a complete idiot for never giving DJRD a chance. The reward of now finding it though has been great. And to think it was Paprika Plains that I just couldn't tolerate (blasphemous language, I know), but I really couldn't find anything to like about it. Now, thanks so much, a million and more to Bill D. for my tape tree #7. I am enjoying reliving the California concert at the Pond. And now, I really listen to it. I hear the incredible Pedal String guitar, the unbelievable drum work, etc. I was so focused on Joni's every move, every word out of her mouth, that I didn't hear anything but her voice and the thoughts in my head. What a fabulous band she had with her on that tour! Brian Blade and Greg Leisz (sp??) are incredible. Larry K always has been, soo.... So Bill thanks, thanks, thanks!! Simon, thanks, thanks, thanks.... I've also been enjoying the other tapes and am chomping at the bit, waiting at the gate for TTT while listening to my tape of the KCRW interview and the songs. Blah, blah, blah (My 7 year old told me recently that blah blah blah wasn't a nice thing to say????) I'm sure no one is left reading so I could go on and on, but I won't. Bye now. Yours in jonispirit, Karen Mc P.S. What prompted this was I got on line tonight after about 2 weeks and got through Augusts digests. Also I'm so excited to order some photos and the Ken Corral piece of Joni. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v50.5) with SMTP; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:28:51 -0400 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id BAA03474 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost) by imo23.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) with internal id BAA07832; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:28:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <199809180528.BAA07832@imo23.mx.aol.com> To: Bmcd@aol.com Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:11:46 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: RE: BooHoo Zone (JC) and occasionally have my own > little boo hoos > now and then (especially during that time of the month dontchaknow). That's more information then I wanted. dontchaknow Peace and BooHoo, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:19:26 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: (NJC)Re: My shrimp recipe michael paz wrote: > > Hi marian- > I have to bring you some of my special seasoning from Honduras. I am > going on Oct. 2 so I will bring some for you and mail it. The recipe is > easy. A lot of people asked me to post this so here it is. Yummy, but you forgot the main ingredient to this post... your "NJC" tagline to the title. :-) Marsha, "F*** it, tonight I'm going Shrimping To Red Lobster with the punks..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:36:13 +0100 From: catman Subject: NJCRe: My shrimp recipe I have been doing all my food shopping at SEE WOO for the last month or so. As a result I have lost 11lbs. Anyhow they sell proper prawns i.e. big ones not the piddly little things they call prawns here which i would shrimp. The prawns cost $15.50 per kg(2.2lb) raw frozen. they come from Vietnam I think. They even have TTT prawns! IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/23/98 12:26:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes: > > << Hi marian- > I have to bring you some of my special seasoning from Honduras. I am > going on Oct. 2 so I will bring some for you and mail it. The recipe is > easy. A lot of people asked me to post this so here it is. I left my > bottle of seasoning at the party so I hope someone found it and uses it. > >> > > My guess, Michael, is that you should send Marian some fresh shrimp on ice > along with the seasoning. I've never been there, but my reading about Austria > does not indicate a large catch of shrimp from Austrian waters, though I > suppose they can have them flown in from anywhere. > Correct me if I am wrong, Marian. > > Paul I - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:46:25 -0700 From: daricem@sfpl.lib.ca.us Subject: Joni inChi-town plea I have somehow deleted the above post on the Chicago show.Does anyone had it saved to forward to me? Thanks, Darice ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:15:33 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #367 SJC The Smelly Turd Who then do you think will want to stick little pins in it. TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/22/98 3:01:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slarty@total.net > writes: > > << Well I ain't gonna sign i >> > And I ain't gonna wrap it- > > Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:17:52 EDT From: KerriLynn@aol.com Subject: T-SHIRT JUST A NOTE TO ALL OF YOU..... I just recieved my t-shirt in the mail and love it!!!!! Highly suggest you'all obtain one..!! ps. cant wait to see Joni in NYC!!! np: coyote........ kerri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:03:07 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Attempting resend ;~D Karen Mc wrote: > And to think it was Paprika Plains that I just couldn't tolerate (blasphemous language, I know), but I really couldn't find anything to like about it. Although I fell in love with DJRD at my first hearing (upon its release waaaaay back when), I recall that many of my friends who liked Joni quite a lot did not like the album at all, especially Paprika Plains -- even though (and some of you have read my references to this before) we were literally living on those plains, three miles from Canada, in Fortuna, ND/Westby, MT. For some, DJRD seems to be an acquired taste, or an album best appreciated as one's tastes change ... similar to the appreciation of caviar or strong black coffee or tequila or fine cigars ... or J & B and coke ... Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:23:23 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: First 'Joni' song heard on the radio Hey everyone! While driving home from school today, I heard my first 'Joni' song: Urge For Going by Tom Rush! Well, it ain't exactly Tom's song, but Joni did write it, as we all know. It was in celebration of the first day of Fall (Today!) Mark, who obviously needs more schoolin' if he uses that them word 'ain't' ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:37:57 PDT From: "Jerome Gonzales" Subject: re: joni and ani As interest in this seems to have, ahem, grown, I'll repost my earlier offer. To anyone who would like a color copy, send me your address and I'll get a handle on what my costs are going to be. Depending on how many copies I make I'll get a discount I'm sure. And hey, even if you hate the article, you'll love the picture!!! Peace outty 5000-Jerome ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:47:27 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Joni as "Elevator Music" A few moments ago I was about to burst into serious humming while in the elevator at work, and then I realized what it was I was fixin' to hum ... Is is heartening, or disheartening, to know that there is a Muzak version of "In France They Kiss On Mainstreet"? Does the existence of such categorize the song as a modern-day "standard"? It wouldn't bother me so much to ponder these questions if it hadn't been such a BAD arrangement ... Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 14:00:42 -0700 From: Wally Breese Subject: TTT Hi everyone, Tomorrow (the 24th), I'll be launching the Website pages for Joni's upcoming new album, Taming The Tiger. As I've mentioned recently, the pages contain lyrics, credits, paintings, photos, sound samples, fan reviews, a contest, and more. Be sure to check out JoniMitchell.com when you awake on Thursday morning. To answer a few questions Ive been asked regarding TTT- There will be no special package version of the album. This is regrettable, I believe, especially since Joni & her art director Robbie Cavolina won a Grammy for Best Packaging on Joni's last new studio album, Turbulent Indigo in 1994. The regular TTT package is quite beautiful though, and special in it's own right. It's stuffed with page after page of reproductions of Joni's paintings, all the lyrics (of course), and one terrific photo of one of her three cats stretching after napping on a very lovely and expensive-looking chest of drawers set beneath a skylight in Joni's home. As to the single "The Crazy Cries Of Love," there will be no commercial release and certainly no video unless the song gets good radio airplay. I've been hearing reports that it's starting to get played around the country and in Canada but be sure to call your local radio stations and request that they play the song. And the album! A secret- once again, I've been asked to not release some very cool information until next Monday but I swear, this time if it gets out through other sources first, I'll think twice next time about holding onto info until the business people want it released. I'll say this much- don't make any plans for the evening of Friday, November 6th... Later, Wally The Joni Mitchell Homepage http://www.JoniMitchell.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:14:23 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Attempting resend ;~D Lori, down in God's Country writes ... >For some, DJRD seems to be an acquired taste, or an album best appreciated as >one's tastes change ... similar to the appreciation of caviar or strong black >coffee or tequila or fine cigars ... or J & B and coke ... Single malt scotch ... cilantro ... chipolte chilis ... Pernod ... or landscapes, or Bergman's Nordic blues ... :-) Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:21:10 -0600 From: Brett Code Subject: RE: Joni as "Elevator Music" I recently heard a muzak version of "In France They Kiss on Main Street" in the men's locker room in a hotel health club. I was proud that I recognized it and felt good knowing that I was almost certainly the only one in that locker room who could sing along, but I HATED the arrangement. It was a bunch of horrid litle bell sounds - one for each syllable of the lyrics - yuck. Does Joni get paid in some manner for the conversion of her songs into such horrid muzak? Brett - ---------- From: LRFye@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 2:47 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni as "Elevator Music" A few moments ago I was about to burst into serious humming while in the elevator at work, and then I realized what it was I was fixin' to hum ... Is is heartening, or disheartening, to know that there is a Muzak version of "In France They Kiss On Mainstreet"? Does the existence of such categorize the song as a modern-day "standard"? It wouldn't bother me so much to ponder these questions if it hadn't been such a BAD arrangement ... Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:22:21 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Re: TTT AAaaaaaaaaaacccckkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wally, how can you DO this to us??????????? ;-) Hugs, Ashara In a message dated 9/23/98 4:58:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wallyb@well.com writes: << A secret- once again, I've been asked to not release some very cool information until next Monday but I swear, this time if it gets out through other sources first, I'll think twice next time about holding onto info until the business people want it released. I'll say this much- don't make any plans for the evening of Friday, November 6th... >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:23:33 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Joni as Lori writes ... >Is is heartening, or disheartening, to know that there is a Muzak version of >"In France They Kiss On Mainstreet"? Does the existence of such categorize >the song as a modern-day "standard"? > Though many bemoan the fact that truly incredible music like this is often taken by the muzak factories and dissolved into oblivion, I've always thought that somebody, somewhere at the studios must have an incredibly twisted sense of humor ... I mean, think about it. And at least it keeps quite a few musicians in rent and food! Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:37:03 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni as "Elevator Music" Brett Code wrote: > I recently heard a muzak version of "In France They Kiss on Main Street" in > the men's locker room in a hotel health club. I was proud that I recognized > it and felt good knowing that I was almost certainly the only one in that > locker room who could sing along, but I HATED the arrangement. It was a > bunch of horrid litle bell sounds - one for each syllable of the lyrics - > yuck. That was the same BAD arrangement I heard today! Don Rowe wrote: > Though many bemoan the fact that truly incredible music like this is > often taken by the muzak factories and dissolved into oblivion, I've > always thought that somebody, somewhere at the studios must have an > incredibly twisted sense of humor ... I mean, think about it. And at > least it keeps quite a few musicians in rent and food! A twisted sense of humor, perhaps ... or a fabulously poor sense of arrangement ... and I have to ask: who thinks these Muzak performers are serious musicians? (My apologies to any true musician who has had to make a living this way ...) "It could have been more Than a horrible score In the elevator In the air ..." Sorry, couldn't resist! ; ) Lori San Antonio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:51:49 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: A new thread:Bios I thought of this today after being intrigued by that quote from Deb Thornton (aka 68coyotes) which she attaches to her e-mails. "What's his type?" "Drunk with two pistols; makes his wife answer the telephone." --Eudora Welty Bios Chilihead2 aka Brian David Mansfield fav book: The Garden of Eden, Ernest Hemingway fav album: ( a tough one) Hejira, Blue, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, Turbulent Indigo, anything: Kate Bush, Jimmy Buffet, Jane Siberry, Ella Fitzgerald, Janis Ian fav cuisine: fresh and vegetarian, hot and spicy, rice and pepper dishes, all italian veggie fav color: green( the color of money and law offices) and all shades of blue, esp turbulent indigo-- fav pets: 2 chows Taipei and Bear (I like to take them for walks and pretend I'm Martha Stewart! LOL;-) fav angel: Mrs. Chili fav quote: Hot weather makes hot chilies! fav recipe: Phillipino steamed rice muffins (recipe available upon request) fav restaurant: Emerald City Cafe, Bethel Ct fav movie and play: The Night of the Iguana, Tennessee Williams fav activities: sex and sailing and suntanning , in that order fav hobbies: writing fiction (or thinly veiled non-fiction) occupation: beach bum, but my straight job is as an operations manager. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:43:19 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: A new thread:Bios I'll have a go at this: Harpua aka Mark Thomas Domyancich Favorite book: The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-In-The-Moon Marigolds by Paul Zindel Favorite album: Hejira, For The Roses, Mingus, DJRD, Turbulent Indigo, Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars-Edie Brickell and N.B. Favorite quisine: basically anything without cow parts, rice krispie treats, root beer Favorite color: Dark red, indigo, any earthy colors Favorite pets: my beloved Taffy, 13 or so years old, Maine Coon Cat, who is sitting on my LP of STAS as I type Favorite angel: ??? Favorite quote: Really don't have one Favorite recipe: Snickerdoodles, oatmeal cookies Favorite restaurant: Panera??? Unsure... Favorite movie + play: The Birds by Alfred Hitchcock... anything by Hitchcock! (I am a HUGE fan!) Would love to see play of mentioned fav. book Favorite activities: working on stained glass, a little line drawing, guitar obviously! Dulcimer (Which is collecting dust) Favorite hobbies: see above Occupation: student for what seems like 400 years *** Favorite guitar tuning: DACEGA, CGDFCE, DbFDbFAbDb ______________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | www.jmdl.com/guitar/mark | | home.revealed.net/Harpua | |____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:11:56 -0400 From: Elaine Bean Subject: Edith . . . Hi, I was at a "Friendly's" Restaurant last night (it's more of an ice cream parlor than a restaurant, but that's what they call themselves) and "Edith and the Kingpin" - the real song, not the muzak crap, came on. I got so exited and exclaimed "that's Joni"!, at which my daughter just rolled her eyes toward the ceiling and sighed in combined exasperation and pity at my "hopelessness". I just love teen-agers, don't you? Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:07:34 -0700 From: Julie Blau Subject: Bios Thread Ok, this seems fun. Bear in mind that favorites change, at least in my world. All-time favorites are hard to grasp. Julie aka Julie Blau soon to be Drysdale Favorite book: Operating Instructions by Anne Lamott; also anything by Kenneth Patchen Favorite album: Blue, Blood on the Tracks, Trinity Sessions, but currently xo by Elliott Smith Favorite quisine: Italian Favorite color: Don't have a favorite, depends on what I'm painting Favorite pets: my dog Keekers (Queensland Heeler), for all of her tail-chasing, food-guarding, loveableness Favorite angel: (Tie) My 6-year old redhead daughter Stephanie and her 2-year old brother Danny Favorite quote: Someday, everything's gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece Favorite recipe: Pasta Voista, an arabiata-based concoction of my daughter (is there a JMDL cookbook?) Favorite restaurant: Panitas, Aptos, Calif. Favorite movie: Paris, Texas Favorite activities: working out, cuddling with my kids Favorite hobbies: painting, watching NFL football Occupation: project manager/consultant, mother, technical writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:16:25 +0100 From: catman Subject: NJClillith fair The (London) Evening Standard tonight has an article about Lilleth Fair. It was tonight at the Royal Albert. It states that Sarah McLachlon started it in 96 and that she named it after Adams first wife, lilith, who was thrown out of Eden for making too much noise!(I didn't know he had another wife other than Eve-and don't you wonder where we all came from when they only had two sons?) Any how, amonst others, were Sinead O'conner(wow!) Lisa Loeb, Beth orton and N'Dea Davenport. Apart from Sarah and Sinead I haven't heard of the others before. - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:31:29 +0100 From: catman Subject: re:a new thread Favorite book: Wanting Everything-Dorothy Rowe Fiction: The Weirdstone Of Brasingaman-Alan Garner Favorite album: Impossible to say-there are many from carly and join to sinead and sacred spirit etc Favorite quisine: chinese(I only eat that now-home made) Favorite color: Blue Favorite pets: whitney, doris, james, wonder clara the persians and Martha and Alli the Lhasa Apso. Favorite angel: all the fallen ones Favorite quote: 'psychiatrists are very very stupid' D. Rowe- comes to mind Favorite recipe: Haagen Daz Favorite restaurant: a greasy spoon Favorite movie + play: difficult-Contact, Close Encounters One Flew Over...,Carrie, Mary Queen of Scots, The Sound of Music(seen it about 50 times) Favorite activities: playing with my pets, John or myself Favorite hobbies: cat/dog breeding, bootlegging cds for friends, knitting, reading, collecting pedigrees Occupation: House Queen Favorite guitar tuning:haven't a clue - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #369 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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