From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #360 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, September 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 360 JoniFest 1999 is coming! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NOV 1st MSG ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: Depression? [Marilune@aol.com] Kyle Eastwood album ["Kakki" ] BDTS [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: Joni to tour with Bob Dylan in October & November [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Joni and Bob Tour - What to do? [kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)] Re: BDTS [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Earth to Patrick: "Which way to the Brooklyn Bridge?" [Chilihead2@aol] Re: Depression? ["Steven A. Blue" ] more musicblvd coupons [kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant)] joni and dylan [Evian ] birthday idea [Bounced Message ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:09:12 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: NOV 1st MSG At 08:30 PM 9/17/98 EDT, Ashara wrote: >(but I would really like to get really *good* seats, and would be >willing to pay for them. Im with you on that. The best seats are the only way to go this time around. Julie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:16:20 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: Depression? In a message dated 9/16/98 6:01:29 PM, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Hi Julie- > Interesting topic. My thoughts are few. I am as depressed as any one >else I guess, but I have always found ways to heal myself. I have always >been an optimist, but I can't always see the good side right away >especially when I am down. I had these symptoms long before I ever owned >a computer or even though of an internet. I now have a love/hate >relationship with my computer and the internet. The JMDL/JMHP have been >a beautiful discovery in my life, where I have come in contact with so >many kindred spirits, and made so many new friends (all in the name of >Joni). Funny how it always comes back to Joni (whom {lol} I discovered >back in '71, and has been soothing me and healing me ever since. I don't know if it was really apparent on the list, but last year (meaning 10th grade, mainly 2nd semester), I was really unhappy. At the time, I didn't think so, but looking back, I think "what the hell was i doing? why did i think that was normal?". i can't really blame griffin or school or my parents. mostly i blame myself. ever hear of elliott smith? yeah, well anyway, a lyric from one his songs goes: "Nobody broke your heart/ You broke your own 'cause you can't finish what you start/ If you're alone it must be you that wants to be apart." i truly believe that. i spent my time tearing myself into little pieces and thinking it was okay. okay....okay isn't crying every night. okay isn't calling THAT person all the time, expecting something to change. okay isn't going to concerts, writing on napkins, and crying into them. okay can mean alot of things, but i wasn't okay, no matter how much i told myself i was fine, only a dream, only a dark phase, y'know "all good dreamers pass this way someday" sort of thing. the month of may was especially hard. it's probably hard to believe, seeing as how i went to three or four concerts that month, and basically being the most social i had ever been. i was living off joni at that time. i'm not kidding. "court and spark" and "blue" and "for the roses" were my holy trinity. i analyzed every lyrix, trying to mirror myself in the words. from time to time i'll get a little depressed. but i won't let myself slide so deep anymore. i know what it's like to be truly blue and really, being happy is better. - -mariana np: alternating between KROQ the radio station and The Breeders, -Last Splash- (saw it on the wall Motherhood means MENTAL FREEZE (freezeheads) ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:13:04 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Kyle Eastwood album The Kyle Eastwood CD arrived in my mail today and I was much impressed with it on the first listen. The arrangements are very lush, layered and sophisticated. (ooh, definitely martini music, but I digress) Joni is outstanding on "Trouble Man" - just right on - her track alone is worth getting this album. Julia Fordham, who I've already loved for years, is a revelation on "In The Wee Small Hours" and I think Diana King is really great on "Why Can't We Live Together?" For those who may be feeling some nepotism-related hesitation because Kyle is the son of "Dirty Harry" - Daddy Clint is actually an acclaimed jazz composer who has scored several of his movies, and who actually considers himself a musician first. Get this album - it is fine. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: BDTS BDTS is run by Steve Marcus who developed and managed the Grateful Dead Ticket Sales mail order from it's inception in early 1983. It became the model for all mail order ticket sales in shared cooperation with both the venues and ticketmaster/bass. When the GDTS reformed after the Dead's demise following the untimely passing of Jerry Garcia, Steve jumped ship to start the BDTS, still providing the same excellent service he'd been providing and improving for years. By all means, this is the best way to get the best tickets but be sure to follow the instructions to the letter and mail in on the first day of mail order or you run the risk of being shut out and having your order returned to you unfilled. Hope this helps answer some questions. gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:15:17 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni to tour with Bob Dylan in October & November In a message dated 9/17/98 1:20:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << October 28, 1998 Detroit, Michigan--(Wednesday) Palace of Auburn Hills >> This is a dream, or am I awake? MichJoni fans- who's going?? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 04:13:28 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: Re: Joni and Bob Tour - What to do? thanks for the recommendation, Kakki, I've bookmarked the BDTS site (http://www.well.com/user/smarcus/mailorder.html) and will check it for updates as no info is available as yet. I've had enough bad seats at Joni concerts ('79, '83, '98) to last a lifetime. So like Phyliss I'll consider traveling to NYC (the whole 20 minutes) only if I can get good seats (without paying crazy amounts of money to a scalper). Any other suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! -Kenny NP: The Man I Love (Herbie Hancock w/JM on vocals) awesome...I always thought she'd do a great rendition of this song! thanks Michael P! On 9/17/98 "Kakki" wrote: Phyliss asked: > Can anyone share their experience dealing with the Bob Dylan Ticket Sales people with me please. I >think I remember someone got some really good seats through them. Barbara (Barbearuh) can speak to this better than I can, but I recall everyone who ordered tix through BDTS got outstanding seats and were able to get seats in great (the best) sections not available through Ticketmaster. I recall hearing that BDTS gets the first best pick of seats to set aside. I would highly recommend going through them this go around. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:35:30 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: BDTS In a message dated 9/17/98 11:54:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kb420@webtv.net writes: << Hope this helps answer some questions. >> Dave, What is the url for the BDTS site? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:45:43 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: Re: Earth to Patrick: "Which way to the Brooklyn Bridge?" Hi Patrick, We are planning to make a day and evening of it, perhaps meet a friend and have him join us. Maybe do a little shopping, walk the bridge---check out a museum-dinner-music-dancing. See how the back holds up. - -Bri ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:06:38 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: Depression? Hello everyone, I thought I would chime in on this subject....with the last name of Blue, one day I got a present slid under my dorm room door, it was the "blue" Album. Once before I made a half funny about "that pretty girl in your bathroom, checking out her sex appeal", as I said then I never did marry her (never found her either {smile}). The trilogy of albums also went along with "The Prophet", god what a collection and a shrine. extremely different dubbed by my football teamates because it took all kinds that year to go to the national Championships, I remember how "accepted" I was from the Joni crowd (yes even then there was a big following) even more because I was black, a jock on full scholarship, and could relate, even after great victories. I think healing from depression must come from out and in, since lots of us know the symptoms, our hearts seem to be in a special place. wonderful kindred spirits I believe the term was........healing?????? Yes indeed, I recall finding a "river" to skate away on........when I got there, I will never forget hearing the old "cassette" tape players (remember that distinct sound everyone), a woman on the far side of the lake, and that album playing (tape version) and a bottle of Chiante' wine in the snow.......tears turned to laughter, sadness to happiness, silence to speech, void to caring, we went to see the Messiah at Iowa State university, and as luck would have had it, met a few folks there also. So what am I trying to say here?????It is easy for lots of us with this common ground to feel as we do, it is not a "learned" "thing" to speak and feel, and to be able to pass this "aura" along, it is something that a peson either "has" or "hasn't", like the lyrics, some people can sit and immediately enjoy JM, while others no matter how much can't remain around the music, the people, nothing.... I for one treasure this wonderful group of folks, life just wouldn't be life without em! Consider each and everyone...every living soul that communicates through this medium a close and special friend, you can't claim this special "something" anywhere else, not the way we seem to have achieved this plane as we have. ........ SA Blue President Wolfgaarde, Inc - -----Original Message----- From: Marilune@aol.com To: michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net ; owner-joni@smoe.org ; jonifestne@jmdl.com ; joni@smoe.org Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:18 AM Subject: Re: Depression? > >In a message dated 9/16/98 6:01:29 PM, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net wrote: > >>Hi Julie- >> Interesting topic. My thoughts are few. I am as depressed as any one >>else I guess, but I have always found ways to heal myself. I have always >>been an optimist, but I can't always see the good side right away >>especially when I am down. I had these symptoms long before I ever owned >>a computer or even though of an internet. I now have a love/hate >>relationship with my computer and the internet. The JMDL/JMHP have been >>a beautiful discovery in my life, where I have come in contact with so >>many kindred spirits, and made so many new friends (all in the name of >>Joni). Funny how it always comes back to Joni (whom {lol} I discovered >>back in '71, and has been soothing me and healing me ever since. > > I don't know if it was really apparent on the list, but last year (meaning >10th grade, mainly 2nd semester), I was really unhappy. At the time, I didn't >think so, but looking back, I think "what the hell was i doing? why did i >think that was normal?". i can't really blame griffin or school or my parents. >mostly i blame myself. ever hear of elliott smith? yeah, well anyway, a lyric >from one his songs goes: "Nobody broke your heart/ You broke your own 'cause >you can't finish what you start/ If you're alone it must be you that wants to >be apart." i truly believe that. i spent my time tearing myself into little >pieces and thinking it was okay. okay....okay isn't crying every night. okay >isn't calling THAT person all the time, expecting something to change. okay >isn't going to concerts, writing on napkins, and crying into them. okay can >mean alot of things, but i wasn't okay, no matter how much i told myself i was >fine, only a dream, only a dark phase, y'know "all good dreamers pass this way >someday" sort of thing. > the month of may was especially hard. it's probably hard to believe, seeing >as how i went to three or four concerts that month, and basically being the >most social i had ever been. i was living off joni at that time. i'm not >kidding. "court and spark" and "blue" and "for the roses" were my holy >trinity. i analyzed every lyrix, trying to mirror myself in the words. > from time to time i'll get a little depressed. but i won't let myself slide >so deep anymore. i know what it's like to be truly blue and really, being >happy is better. > >-mariana > >np: alternating between KROQ the radio station and The Breeders, -Last Splash- >(saw it on the wall Motherhood means MENTAL FREEZE (freezeheads) ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 05:45:48 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenny Grant) Subject: more musicblvd coupons since the reaction was so favorable last time 'round, here's some more: ================ $10.00 off, expires 9/30 http://www.musicblvd.com/summerseries/ ================== (Only) $5.00 off, expires TODAY, 9/18 http://www.musicblvd.com/TSG4 ================== -Kenny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:53:11 -0600 From: Evian Subject: joni and dylan Joni is doing shows with Dylan????????? This week, they announced that Dylan is coming to Saskatoon in October with Jann Arden opening for him. I was debating to go see Jann. However, I can't believe that Joni is doing a damn Toronto show with him and STILL hasn't done a performance in Saskatoon! ARGH!!!!!!!!! What is it going to take to get her to do a show in her hometown?? Evian np: James Taylor -- GORILLA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:31:48 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: birthday idea Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:16:14 -0500 From: Becky >A collection/collage of postcards or photos sent by each of us. With personalised greetings on the back? I think this is an excellent idea; much better than the computer idea. I think that the computer idea is invading Joni's privacy a bit. If she doesn't already have a computer, there's most likely a reason for that. Katie in WI Becky Roberts-Industrial Engineering Student UW Madison UW Madison Socity of Women Engineers Mentoring Chair 1314 W. Johnson #606 Madison, WI 53715 256-4426 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #360 ************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?