From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #341 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, September 7 1998 Volume 03 : Number 341 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Jonifest Webcast [Don Sloan ] re: Jonifest Webcast [Robert Holliston ] TMJC (Too Much Joni Content) [Ashara@aol.com] Thank you Ashara! [Chilihead2@aol.com] Joni interview in Rolan house mag [Guy Brown ] joni videos [stevephoto@mindspring.com] Traveling... [Mark Domyancich ] Re: joni videos [Mark Domyancich ] NE-Jonifest--many thanks!!!! [Marsha ] Re: More Jonifest pictures [Charstarl@aol.com] Re: Bumbershoot, Seattle, and a ? [Charstarl@aol.com] Re: More Jonifest pictures ["Steven A. Blue" ] Re: More Jonifest pictures [Mark Domyancich ] The party rocks on with TTT!!! [Ashara@aol.com] Re: Re: Defending Jane [Marilune@aol.com] Joni in concert memory [Bolvangar@aol.com] Re: The party rocks on with TTT!!! [Bolvangar@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 01:02:13 -0700 From: Don Sloan Subject: Re: Jonifest Webcast The pics are great, John... keep them coming! Looks like a wonderful time being had by all... and the weather is cooperating, too, yes? Ashara - - - beautiful home on some lovely land... but where are the miles of aisles covered with piles and piles? You gotta love those closets..... I sure do! Have Fun!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep us posted!!!!!!! Don, in faraway California, thinking maybe I should have chosen the JoniFest over the DC wedding trip in October :-( ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 02:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Holliston Subject: re: Jonifest Webcast Hey, y'all at Ashara's! It's only about 5:30 in the morning there, so I'm sure you're still partying hearty! Thanks you so much, John Lasater, for all the pictures, it was thrilling to see them, and thank you, Ashara, for the early morning update. I got to talk to a few of you when I phoned and it was absolutely great (the music sounded awesome - Edith and the Kingpin as I had the privilege of saying hello to Ashara, Heather, Ric, Kakki, Marian, ChuckE, Jim....) Bless this list!! Love, Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:52:18 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: TMJC (Too Much Joni Content) Greetings From JulieZW, It's 3:30 AM and Michael Paz and ChuckE just stopped playing "Wild Horses." Jim Lamadoo, Katey Barnicle and moi sang along...."Wild Horses couldn't take me awayyyyyyyyyyyy." Mariam's guitar playing was amazing! Her "Cotton Avenue" was wonderfullllllllll. Jim Lamadoo can sound exactly like Neil Young.... Michael Yarbrough sang so sweetly to Sweet Bird. David Wright continues to amaze us with his piano playing. John Lassater, who just graduated from Duke is a whiz on the guitar.......and I can go on and on later...Marsha, always on tune, never misses a Joni melody even when we forget. Kakki brought so much great Dolly Holly wood shit....... Bryan Thomas sang "Little Green" with so much soul, I wanted him to adopt me. Im a little sleepy, but we are still singing, so I've got to go join the Jonettes. And Ashara rules............ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:16:00 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: Thank you Ashara! Hi List and special hello to all the joni tribe we met Ashara's, Talk about Good Food, Good Music, and Good People! Thank you Ashara for opening up your doors to the Lost Tribe of Joni! We made it back safe and plan to spend the rest of this wonderful Sunny Sunday lounging by the pool (doing a little work, too) and listening to who else? To everyone we met here and at the garden and for those we have yet to meet, Let's get together soon and often! Sorry if I dissappointed those who expected to meet someone who looked like Jerry Garcia. - -Chili (and for Mrs. Chili) PS. Simon when are you going to come up with some harder more obscure trivia questions? LOL! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:36:58 -0700 From: Guy Brown Subject: Joni interview in Rolan house mag Don't know how old this is? 1996? But it's good. GUY Start at http://www.rolandus.com/RUG/ARCHIVE/WIN_96/FEAT14_2/JONI1.HTM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 19:42:43 -0700 From: stevephoto@mindspring.com Subject: joni videos I am in search of the shadows and light concert video, I saw it in a video rental store about 10 years ago and didn't pick it up. I have not seen it since. Any clues? Also, I have two other joni videos: "Refuge of the roads" Emperor Entertainment 1990 and "Come in from the cold" Geffen home video 1991 purchased from the "Hear" mail order catalogue when they were out of boston I don't know if either are still in print - if not I would like to offer them up for the tape tree. I have limited dubbing capabilities but I can make a good dubbing master at work Oh I almost forgot, I think I have the showtime "coast to coast" show on VHS I just have to sift through all of my tapes to find it. (I have a habit of keeping every thing I record resulting in massive quantities of tapes) I don't remenber who was asking about it, I will post here if I find it . I also would like to know if anyone has the album of joni covers done by a guy whose album cover was a mock up of Hejira. I heard him being interviewed on WFUV a couple of years ago and was never able to find the record. It sounded pretty good. and I would love to hear it again. If anyone has the interview or the album, can you please make a tape of it for me? NP "car on a hill" joni forever stevephoto@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:58:10 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Traveling... Awesome cake at Joni Fest! Mark, who says that mail is slow today and figured he would take up some bandwidth! :) _____________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |___________________________| - -State Mottos- Illinois: Please Don't Pronounce the "S" Wisconsin: Eat Cheese or Die Pennsylvania: Cook With Coal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 19:02:23 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: joni videos Steve and all- I'm pretty sure the Shadows & Light video is out of print now. I would also really like to get this! Heather dubbed Refuge of the Roads for me last January and I'm pretty sure that's OOP too. Same thing about Come In From The Cold. I think it would be a good idea to do another video tree and put all this stuff on it. NP-Air conditioner, TV _____________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |___________________________| - -State Mottos- Illinois: Please Don't Pronounce the "S" Wisconsin: Eat Cheese or Die Pennsylvania: Cook With Coal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 20:17:59 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: NE-Jonifest--many thanks!!!! Reporting from hotel central on my way home from Boston in the early am... It was great to gather with all my jmdl friends and meet new ones at Ashara's. The time was all too brief as I found myself hugging Julie and Marian goodbye at their respective terminals at the airport after our Thai lunch and quick drive around Boston for some sights. Thanks, Ashara, for being the supreme hostess for the neJonifest and for allowing me to drop in last minute. I will have to work off some pounds after feasting on the beautifully prepared foods by you and Maggie and everyone! Thanks Chuck for all your efforts with the sound system, and I enjoyed your fine musicianship. The same goes for all our very talented musicians on the list: David W (can I adopt you?), John L (can I adopt you too?), Michael P (we'll see you in New Orleans very soon), Marian R (who inspired me to do the jaunt with her travel from Austria just to do this weekend), Bryan T (glad to finally meet you and enjoy you LIVE!). To all my harmony buddies (you know who you are, thanks for keeping me in tune). It was great fun to have the pass-out of souvenirs, Joni trivia, and now we are officially soooo cultish with our amulet necklaces with the secret(!) message on the rice grain....he-he. It is a zen-like thing for me to be in our group to sing her tunes and to know we all adore her stuff like no one else we have in our lives...we missed you, Terry... for me especially in this time of a marital status change and the struggle through the years with a mate who could not appreciate and be moved by music, much less Joni things, I am glad to have established friendships with listmembers at an earlier time before my "broadside accident" of change. "Everything comes and goes Marked by lovers and styles of clothes Things that you held high and told yourself were true Lost or changing as the days come down to you.." JM Thanks to all of you for making my difficult days happier. In love and appreciation, Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:02:23 EDT From: Charstarl@aol.com Subject: Re: More Jonifest pictures In a message dated 9/5/98 1:07:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Bolvangar@aol.com writes: << http://www.duke.edu/~jhl1/jmdl >> I just took the time to go through the JoniFest photos. They are fabulous and the attendees are all so photogenic and look like they were having the time of their lives. How envious I am of all of you getting to be together. Oh well! I'll just have to live vicariously through you all until I can at last join my fellow JMDLers' at one of their parties. Thank you for allowing the unfortunate ones that couldn't attend the peek into the festivities! Char* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:08:14 EDT From: Charstarl@aol.com Subject: Re: Bumbershoot, Seattle, and a ? ...And now I can kick myself because both he and Dar Williams (one of my favorites) were at Seattle's Bumbershoot. Unfortunately, I didn't read the schedule until late Friday night, only to find that they both played earlier on Friday evening! :( I'm interested in hearing about Dar's performance from anyone who attended. Enjoy yourselves, Boston party-goers! Neil in Seattle... Neil - I was supposed to attend Bumbershoot this weekend expressly to see Bruce Cockburn but was unable to attend. Since you mentioned that you live in Seattle or that area anyway, do you know of the singer/songwriter, Danny O'Keefe? He was famous for "Good-time Charlie's Got The Blues" and other great songs. His most well-known LP was, "Breezy Stories." I heard that he was originally from the Seattle area and had left LA for those parts back in the 80's. Do you know if this is so or do you know where I might look for current info on him? Thanks in advance if you can help out. Charlotte* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:21:47 -0000 From: "Steven A. Blue" Subject: Re: More Jonifest pictures Hello everyone, regarding the vocals who sang backups for Joni, I attended William Penn College, Oskaloosa, Iowa, there was a blonde high spirited upperclassman/woman, first name Debbie. Rumor had it she sang back up for Joni at one time. Possibly 5'4", 135, shoulder length blonde hair, great personality. Does the description ring a bell to anyone? Just wondering. I think she married a guy named George, he was from upstate NY. Just thought I'd throw that out for nostalgia, the year was 1975. SAB - -----Original Message----- From: Charstarl@aol.com To: Bolvangar@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 1:03 AM Subject: Re: More Jonifest pictures >In a message dated 9/5/98 1:07:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Bolvangar@aol.com >writes: > ><< http://www.duke.edu/~jhl1/jmdl >> > >I just took the time to go through the JoniFest photos. They are fabulous and >the attendees are all so photogenic and look like they were having the time of >their lives. How envious I am of all of you getting to be together. Oh well! >I'll just have to live vicariously through you all until I can at last join my >fellow JMDLers' at one of their parties. Thank you for allowing the >unfortunate ones that couldn't attend the peek into the festivities! Char* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:33:57 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: More Jonifest pictures Weird! Are there any more hicks here in the Midwest who love Joni??? (Just joking, Steve!) NP-The Windfall At 9:21 PM +0000 9/7/98, Steven A. Blue wrote: >Hello everyone, regarding the vocals who sang backups for Joni, I attended >William Penn College, Oskaloosa, Iowa, there was a blonde high spirited >upperclassman/woman, first name Debbie. Rumor had it she sang back up for >Joni at one time. Possibly 5'4", 135, shoulder length blonde hair, great >personality. Does the description ring a bell to anyone? Just wondering. I >think she married a guy named George, he was from upstate NY. Just thought >I'd throw that out for nostalgia, the year was 1975. _____________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |___________________________| - -State Mottos- Illinois: Please Don't Pronounce the "S" Wisconsin: Eat Cheese or Die Pennsylvania: Cook With Coal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:15:53 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: The party rocks on with TTT!!! Michael and Kakki just called from a little bar on Plum Island, (not too far from where I live,) and asked me to post this to the list. At the moment, they are turning 50-60 people on to TTT!! It seems the bar owner is an ex-lawyer, who left her profession to opened this bar, and is a big Joni fan herself! So.....it seems our LA (California,) and LA (New Orleans) ambassadors are spreading the word everywhere they go! I am still recouping from only a few hours sleep in the past few days, so it may be a day or two before I am awake enough to write more. ;-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 00:04:06 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Defending Jane In a message dated 9/5/98 9:57:04 AM, LRFye@aol.com wrote: >Mariana, you are a fine writer -- I don't know if you've heard TTT yet, but >if/when you have, perhaps you would consider sending a rebuttal of Esther's >critique to Jane? You asked how many teenagers we expect to buy TTT -- maybe >a few more WILL buy it if they read a good review from someone like you, who >actually reads and likes the magazine. > >Just a thought ... if just one more young person hears and loves Joni, then >her music and message is passed on (at least) once more ... I should, I suppose. Jane's very respectful of stuff like that. Besides I like Esther. She writes extremely funny articles. In fact, if acting doesn't work out for me, I would like to be a journalist at some place like Jane. I'd start my own 'zine, but it'd be so much work. Esp. since I'm going into Jr. year. Well maybe Sr. year. - -mariana NP: Kate Bush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 00:47:14 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Joni in concert memory Hi all, Back from Boston (more on that soon) this afternoon. I told my mom, who's mostly responsible for introducing me to Joni, a little about the gathering. She mentioned for the first time that when she was in college she saw Joni in concert at a Tulane University auditorium in New Orleans. She guessed this was just after Blue came out because she did many of those songs. And she said Joni played a lot of piano (the good old days!). Was anyone else now on the list there...if you can tell from this info. what concert I'm describing....out of total curiosity? - --David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:45:35 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: The party rocks on with TTT!!! I just heard TTT for the first time over the weekend. And I'm already eager to start discussing it, so here are my impressions..... (And so, if you want to be surprised on the 29th don't read on....I don't want to spoil the ending of the movie for anyone, as it were, with my review....) My big problem is that the monochromatic VG-8 sound gets wearying to me after a while -- and it sounds like she's using a lot of the same rhythms or strumming patterns or something on several songs, which further diminishes the variety. I've been thinking that she's always used patterns -- like on her piano songs from Blue and much of FTR -- they all have the same basic left hand accompaniment and a lot of right-hand syncopations, figurations, and chord structures in common....once you get the pattern down you can play most of the songs on those albums if you figure out the chords and harmonies. (In fact, one piano phrase in the middle of Let the Wind Carry Me always sounds like a quote from the piano part of Last Time I Saw Richard to me.) So again you could say the texture is monotonous. But the songwriting she has been working towards on her '90s albums seems more evocative and texture-based, in the melody and harmony and arrangement, than her songwriting on Blue and the other early/early-middle period albums -- so maybe a monotonous texture would have more of an impact on TTT than it does on Blue. I'm not sure if that makes sense. But I do feel that in her singing and songwriting on TTT she's really perfecting the texturedness and evocativeness that she has been doing the past couple of albums -- even the album's lyrical clunkers (e.g., "one big boo-hoo" and "nice...kitty kitty!" ) contribute to this texture for me. Only the subtleness is undermined by the monotony of the musical arrangements. I wish there was a touch of acoustic piano, or a more sparse, acoustic song or two (like the acoustic guitar and percussion texture on NRH's "Slouching Towards Bethlehem") for variety. The highlights for me: "Harlem in Havana" and "Lead Balloon" (such a different sound for her! And she's so gleeful and pissed off! "An angry man's just an angry man/But an angry woman -- BITCH!"). And "Face Lift," now ranking with "Come in from the Cold" and "Silky Veils of Ardor" for me as one of Joni's saddest songs, and one of her most revealing, but so gentle and her voice is so expressive -- she just tears me apart with the line "'You've seen too many movies, Joni/Snap out of it.'" I'm really anticipating the 29th (well -- 28th, for me!) now..... - --David ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #341 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?