From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #319 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 25 1998 Volume 03 : Number 319 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Notice for guitarists - and BOSTON!!! [M.Russell@iaea.org] this and that [Seanapper@aol.com] Re: Garden page [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Did I really hear that right? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Did I really hear that right? ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: it's me cathy i've come home [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Woodstock Theme Park [Heather ] You can't tune a fish... [Steve Dulson ] WallofSound Voting '80s ["Don Rowe" ] Re: it's me cathy i've come home [Bounced Message ] About a boy [Gertus@aol.com] Today in Joni History - September 3 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - August 31 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 4 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 17 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 25 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - August 28 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 2 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - August 30 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 20 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 27 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 22 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - August 29 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 12 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 6 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - September 23 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - (was Today in Joni History - August 27) [Today i] Re: History Overload [Jerry Notaro ] Re: History Overload ["Don Rowe" ] Re: History Overload [Marsha ] Updated Garden report [Susan McNamara ] This month in... [Sue ] Re: Woodstock Theme Park (NJC) [LRFye@aol.com] Re: TTT in my office! [Debra Kaufman ] Re: Updated Garden report ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Re: History Overload(another viagra moment) ["Ken (Slarty)" > Worry more for the Carolineans than the Floridians. Paul I standing behind the safety of the Guilf Stream ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:43:46 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Did I really hear that right? My most embarrassing: Instead of Ethiopia, I heard It's the opiates. Jerry np: Propellerheads, featuring Shirley Bassey - History Repeating ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:53:27 -0400 From: The Yarn Kollection Subject: Sharing The Love > (I never asked, but how DID you sneak in > that wonderful digital camera????) > Hi Kate and All, We didn't sneak it in at all. We had the digital, the Fuji-Discovery, and our old but trusty Pentax draped around our necks. No one said a thing about them. But here is irony at it's best. We got busted for food. Our cookies and bananas got confiscated. Than they decided to give the bananas back. Stating that at least they were organic in nature, fitting the spirit of Woodstock. Go figure!! > -- what a wonderful thing to be able to have those images, and > especially the one of Mendi, Brian and Suze -- WE WERE THERE!!! > There may yet be other pics with more list members. We have not had a chance to get them developed. The digital pics were so readily at hand to view. I'm hoping and praying that one of us had the good sense to take a few more pics of the JMDLers gathered. If any of them turn out decent I'll snail mail them to Les for scanning in the hope that he will be kind enough to add them to the page. So fingers crossed in the hopes of a few more group pics. Thanks all, for understanding that my only wish was/is to share. Les - - THANK YOU! Time will never erase the great feelings and memories of seeing Joni with a great bunch of people collectively known as the JMDLers. Mendi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:12:19 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: Did I really hear that right? At 08:43 AM 8/25/98 -0400, JNotaro wrote: >Instead of Ethiopia I heard It's the opiates. Jerry, Ok, here are my Joni Mondagreens: "Love came to my door With a sleeping roll" became 'Love came to my door as a sleeping load.' And "All the guilty people," he said They've all seen the stain-" became 'they've all seen the strain.' And the most universally famous Joni mondagreen has to be: "You're not just a liberation doll,' instead of: He says "Your notches liberation doll" -Mondagreen Mary from way back (Remember Franki Valli's "My Eyes Adored Ya? I sang "My Eyes of Georgia," for months till someone corrected me while singing songs with a car load of people on the way to the shore.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:42:09 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: it's me cathy i've come home Welcome home, Cathy! Er..Mariana. It's good to see you back. I didn't go to the Garden, but was able to cyberenjoy it. I envy the jmdlers who were able to make their way out there. Do you miss your Mexican family? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:56:55 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Woodstock Theme Park At 06:34 PM 8/24/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Julie Z. Webb wrote: >> Can you imagine the theme names of the Woodstock genre rides: "The Riding >> ShotGun" rollercoaster. "The Carrouselof Time" merry-go-round. "The >> Cheering Fish" boat pond. >> Bill Dollinger, Marsha, Sue Cameron, Heather, help me out here.........This >> could be fun. > >Sweet Sucker Dance Hall >Strange Boy Skateboard Track >Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Windfall Slots >Charlie's Pork Pie Hats >Off Night Backstreet Motel >The Three Great Stimulants Coffee House >Dog Eat Dog Frankfurter Stand >Annie's Brownie Stand >Rose's Tarot Readings > Oops ... I thought it was suppose to be based on music that was played at Woodstock(?). I do like The Three Great Simulants Coffee House (what are the other 2 ;-) and the "Urge for Going" port-o-potties. How 'bout: Both Sides Now Massive Rollercoaster Raised on Robbery Ticket Booths Heeeeelp Me Tower of Terror Dancin' Clown Wild Things Run Fast Bumper Cars Hejira - Exit Signs Until next time ..... heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:06:48 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: You can't tune a fish... Mark wrote: >I don't think you can alternately tune a piano-since the keys are on a >chromatic scale But Joni *said* you can, and, as we all know, Joni Mitchell never lies! :) (Hope this only shows up once!) ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:30:31 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: WallofSound Voting '80s Don't forget to go vote on Wall of Sound. Needless to say, you'll have to write in every Joni release -- but I think their list is much better for this decade than any of the two previous. Sadly, Joni is nowhere to be found in any decade's Top 20 ... so get out there list! Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:00:29 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: it's me cathy i've come home From: Marilune@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:27:34 EDT In a message dated 8/25/98 7:42:09 AM, TerryM2442 wrote: >Welcome home, Cathy! Er..Mariana. It's good to see you back. >I didn't go to the Garden, but was able to cyberenjoy it. I envy the jmdlers >who were able to make their way out there. > >Do you miss your Mexican family? yeah i do, really. they were pretty cool. i miss playing nintendo until 3 am in the morning with gaby and all the reprimands to tell me keep eating. come! mariana! come! but seriously, i had a good time and am glad i went. mariana np: elliott smith, roman candle (go out and get xo today!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:19:16 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: About a boy Marianna wrote:- I'm reading this really great book right now called "High Fidelity" about this pop music junkie in england who has just broken up with his girlfriend. it's great. my favorite part is when he says that with all the music he was listening to when he broke up with his first girlfriend, how was he not going to break up into little pieces? i identified immeadiatly. living off "blue" for the months prior to griffin, how was i not going to just fall apart? the best part of the book so far is when he says, "what came first, the music or the misery?" i highly reccomend it. Marianna, The next book on your reading list should be "About a Boy" also by Nick Hornby. The boy in question is raised by his mother (suicidal) almost entirely on Joni Mitchell's music! This causes him a few problems, especially at school where he's regarded as a bit of a freak to put it mildly. I'm not too keen on the ending but try it anyway. Jacky UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:09:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 3 1979: Joni performs at the Memorial Coliseum in Portland, Oregon - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:39:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 31 1969: Joni and CSN perform the last of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:10:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 4 1971: Today, "Carey" debuts on the Billboard chart and lasts for one week. Its peak position is #93. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:52:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 17 1996: Today the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame announces that Joni will be one of the inductees at the 1997 ceremony. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:24:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 8 1974: Joni performs at the Roosevelt Raceway in New York 1979: Joni performs at the Civic Auditorium in San Francisco - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:13:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 25 1987: Jaco Pastorious, the amazing bassist who played on many Joni albums, died today from injuries suffered in a beating at a bar in Florida. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:30:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 10 1990: Starting today, Joni's paintings form a major part of "Canada In The City", an exhibition of Canadian art, music and culture at the Broadgate Centre in London. This exhibit runs through the 21st of the month. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:57:00 -0600 From: This Month in Joni History Subject: This Month in Joni History - September 1974: The single "Free Man In Paris" reaches #22 in the USA. 1978: Joni attends the Bread and Roses Festival and watches the action from backstage. On Wally's page, you can find pictures of her at the event, doing her best imitation of Jane Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:54:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 18 1996: From today's AllStar website: "The much talked about Grace Of My Heart soundtrack, featuring '60s-era songwriters teaming with the cream of the crop of '90s musicians, was recalled by MCA Records allegedly because permission to use the Joni Mitchell-sung track, "Man From Mars," was not obtained in time for the release." Read the rest of the details at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/rt960918.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:08:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 24 1997: The Dallas Morning News publishes a story called "Feud Takes A Public Turn". It reads "[Jackson Browne] describes Mitchell as a "violent" woman who twice physically attacked him. He also calls her a "very embittered" artist who believes she has not been given her due as a musical innovator and who has carried a torch for him since they broke up more than 20 years ago." Read the article at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/dallas970924.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:56:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 19 1970: Today, Melody Maker publishes an article entitled "Glimpses of Joni". It reads, in part "In appearance, she seems rather severe in an attractive sort of way with her fine blonde hair scraped back from her tanned face, which has large bones around the cheeks and forehead, and a wide generous mouth. It's a pleasant, open face, that sits on top of a body whose seeming fragility inspires a feeling of instinctive protectiveness." Read the entire article at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/mm700919.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:46:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 14 1979: Joni performs at the Greek Theater in LA. A few days later, the LA Commerce Tribune publishes a review of the concert entitled "Joni Mitchell: a reaffirmation". "Backed by an outstanding four-piece jazz unit, Mitchell gave the sold-out house one of the musical highlights of the summer as she skated ever the various stages of her career in a 90- minute performance that reaffirmed her position as one of the finest singer-songwriters in the business." Read the entire article at http://www.jonimitchell.com/LACommerce79.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:28:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 9 1990: Today's London Sunday Times publishes an article on a press conference Joni has given in promotion of an exhibition of Canadian art, featuring her paintings. "'Tracy Chapman wrote a coupla good songs, but generally speaking she's not that musically gifted. And Suzanne Vega, well...' Mitchell devotes some time to attempting what she calls 'a good adjudication' on the evidently thorny and hugely popular subject: neurotic, chilly, heartless and overly influenced by Leonard Cohen while lacking his black humour, is the gist of the lengthy report." Read the full article at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/suntimes-900909.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:00:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 28 1969: Joni and CSN perform the fourth of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1974: Joni performs in New York City 1986: (From Wally's bio page) "Joni joined other musicians such as Neil Young and Warren Zevon in a "Get Tough On Toxics" concert at Long Beach Arena. The show was a benefit for two propositions on the ballot that fall: Prop 65, which was an anti-toxic waste initiative, and Prop U, which was an attempt to control building development in the city of L.A. Joni played with a full band and performed a half dozen songs including "Cool Water," and a still wordless version of "Lakota." Read further from Wally's page at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Experimental.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 12:05:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 2 September 2: 1979: Joni performs at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver, British Columbia. A few days later, Monday Magazine of Victoria publishes a review of the concert, saying "She is a true artist - one of only a handful remaining from the sixties who is still creative and vital today. Her craft is dictated by, and is an extension of, her own personal insights. She continues to take chances and challenges herself. That doesn't mean she's always successful, but her failures (like any artist's) are just as important and worthwhile as the successes when it comes to revealing the extent of her abilities and her frame of mind at that particular point in time." Read the entire article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/mm790906.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:56:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 30 1969: Joni and CSN perform the sixth of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1970: Joni plays on the fourth day of the "Isle Of Wight Festival" at the East Afton Farm, Godshill, Isle of Wight. Wally writes on his page: "When Joni came out on stage, the size of the audience amazed her. She told them "It looks like they're making "Ben-Hur" or something!" All through her hour-long set, she had to deal with the noise of the rowdy and agitated crowds, and the frequent and distracting sound of small airplanes taking off. About two-thirds of the way through her song "Chelsea Morning" she stopped and told the audience "I don't feel like singing that song very much. Let me play you one on the piano."" Read the entire article at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Isle70.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:59:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 20 1979: The Los Angeles Commerce Tribune prints a review of Joni's recent performance at the Greek Theater entitled "Joni Mitchell: a Reaffirmation," written by Don Wanlass. An excerpt: Like many skeptics, I had my doubts about how effective a Joni Mitchell concert would be now that she is relying so heavily on jazz. Well, she showed me and everybody else at the Greek Theatre last Friday that she is still one of the most interesting and outstanding artists in contemporary music with a show that was a sheer delight. Mitchell has lost most of her commercial impact since turning to jazz after the biggest success of her career, "Court and Spark." Friday night she proved she could cross over musical styles and be just as compelling. Read the full article at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/LACommerce79.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:23:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 28 1968: Joni’s first album “Song to a Seagull” is released in the United Kingdom today on Reprise Records.  To coincide with the release, Melody Maker publishes an article entitled "Joni, The Seagull From Saskatoon". In the article, Joni is quoted as saying "I've always admired Judy ever since I first started singing in Saskatoon, Canada, where I come from. Now we are close friends. But in those days I think I sounded more like Joan Baez. Since I started writing songs, the range of my voice has extended downwards something like two octaves, which gives me a lot more freedom in the sort of melodies I'm writing." Read the full article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/mm680928.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:32:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 26 1969: Joni and CSN perform the second of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1997: Today, Business Wire releases a statement about Joni's new agreement with Sony/Atv Music Publishing: "The pact, which became effective July 1st, is global in scope (with the exceptions of Australia, Italy and the UK) and represents the first time Ms. Mitchell has had a U.S. publisher or worldwide representation by one company. "This agreement is a milestone," remarked Ms. Dunitz. "Joni Mitchell is simply one of the most important and influential songwriters in the history of popular music, and to represent her catalogue is an honor. We intend to actively seek uses of Joni's compositions where the fit is right and the integrity of her overall catalogue is preserved." Read the article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/bw970826.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:17:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 27 1980: Today's Melody Maker reviews the "Shadows and Light" album, saying "I always found her open-heart surgery approach to relationships, and life in general, which she scrupulously celebrated in song, too overpowering to enjoy and too clinical to appreciate. Not that I've been completely oblivious to her problems. I mean, anyone involved with Crosby, Stills and Nash obviously merits attention ( and some degree of sympathy)." Read the rest at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/mm800927.htm Also, New Musical Express weighs in today with their opinion of the album, saying "'Shadows and Light' is a trail of clues, a blaze of sights seen, an on-the-road exhibition of her favourite (?) bits and pieces. She keeps on being busy, she's pretty pithy, she's often lousy. But more like a strolling player than a rolling stone..." Read it at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/nme800927.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:34:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 11 1974: Joni joined the European leg of the CSNY tour, as did Jesse Colin Young, her old friend from the New York folk circuit. [Today], Joni and Jesse appeared at Wembley stadium, along with the Band, at an event unlikely to be forgotten by anyone lucky enough to attend. 10 days later, Sounds Magazine publishes a story on Joni's appearance at the event. It reads "...an artist who relies on this special brand of audience-performer rapport, loses some of the magic in an exaggerated situation like the Wembley superconcert. Despite excellent support from Tom Scott and the L A Express who smoothly decorate her stories, Joni Mitchell does not belong in a performing situation the size of the mammoth stadium. Too many of the lovely subtleties so integral to her music were swallowed up by the gargantuan sound system." Read the entire article at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/sounds740921.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:15:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 5 1978: Joni performs two shows at the Bread and Roses Festival in Berkeley, California. An excerpt of a review on Wally's page: "Joni put together an interesting outfit songwise too, beginning with her newest classic, Coyote, two years old now, but still fresh as ever. Her voice was lovely and her guitar work was stunning and the audience really just ate it up. Then Joni began the opening chords of another classic, usually played with the band: "Just Like This Train," was instantly recognizable as Ms. Mitchell slipped into a trance and literally dove into the song, playing so well that one realizes that this song never needed a band to be good. And before anyone could wipe away sentimental tears, Joni cast yet another spell with "Furry Sings The Blues," haunting and beautiful, and thrilling to hear just Joni again." Read the full article and see photos of the event by list member Leslie Mixon at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Bread78.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:02:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 22 1986: Joni performs at Farm Aid in Champaigne, IL. From Wally's bio page: The Farm Aid concert was held in Champaign, Illinois. Joni volunteered to perform at the benefit partly because her mother had grown up on a farm in Saskatchewan and Joni had always fancied herself settling down on a farm in her later years. List member David Rind writes: "During the mid-80s, while she was not touring regularly, Joni occasionally took the opportunity to appear at what she considered worthwhile benefits. These included "Farm Aid" and "Amnesty International." Even though she actually excelled at these events, they unfortunately left her with the opposite impression - that her music was no longer valued. They thus served to validate her decision not to tour." Read David's full write-up at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/FarmAid85.html 1994: Today's San Diego Union-Tribune publishes an artilce on Joni called "It's time to pay that debt to Joni Mitchell". It reads "She has been forging an uncompromising trail through heavy underbrush for more than 25 years now, but when the time comes to talk about the pioneers who made the current women-in-rock revolution possible, everybody is always forgetting about Joni Mitchell." Read the article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/sandiego940922.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:00:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 27 1969: Joni and CSN perform the third of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1994: Today's issue of Billboard Magazine features an article entitled "Joni Mitchell's Many Shades of Indigo" written by Timothy White. An excerpt: "The title song of the new record comes from a conference of the Canadian Council of the Arts that I spoke at in the early nineties" [Joni] explains. "The name of the conference was 'Making van Goghs,' and they said they wanted to focus on indigenous peoples, ethnic groups, and women. I opened my talk by saying you cannot make van Goghs,' and that artists can be encouraged or even groomed but not manufactured. Art is the result of experience, and van Gogh's despair and suicide are not what you'd want to duplicate." Read the entire article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/bb941027.htm 1997: The AllStar website published a blurb on Joni's new album today: "The tentative title for her next album is Taming the Tiger, and it's due in February. Meanwhile, the not- yet- titled tribute album, which doesn't even have a tentative street date yet, will feature Sting, Elvis Costello, Sarah McLachlan, Annie Lennox, k.d. lang, Janet Jackson, Etta James, and Chaka Khan. Both albums are due on Reprise." Read the article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/rt970827.htm-------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:00:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - August 29 1969:  Today the Saskatoon Star-Phoenix printed an article entitled "Joni's Love of Words Turns Into a $500,000 Bonanza."  An excerpt: "Less singer than songwriter, less songwriter than poet, she has come from obscurity in the past two years to a prominence where practically everyone - from Frank Sinatra to Johnny Cash - records her compositions and where her own concerts and albums give her an income of $500,000 a year. "My mother raised me on words," she says. "Where other parents would quote from the Bible, she would quote from Shakespeare. She was a romantic woman. She encouraged me in all those old-fashioned things. I kept pressed-flower scrapbooks." Read the full article at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/SaskatoonStar69.html 1969: Joni and CSN perform the fourth of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1986: (From Wally's bio page) "A Showtime series "Coast to Coast" hosted by Herbie Hancock premiered [today]. Joni was a guest on that first show for a jam session with Herbie, Bobby McFerrin, Wayne Shorter, David Sanborn, and Larry. The two songs they jammed on were Joni's compositions "Furry Sing the Blues," and a pepped-up latin-flavored version of "Hejira." Read further from Wally's page at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Experimental.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:36:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 12 1994: (From Wally's bio page): [Today] Joni and Larry stopped by Santa Monica, Ca. radio station KCRW-FM and taped a broadcast with DJ Chris Douridas for his excellent series "Morning Becomes Eclectic." This hour-long broadcast is noteworthy because of the stellar sound, and the fact that Joni and Larry were performing together on the air for perhaps the last time. In conversation, Joni spoke of their separation for the first time, and said they were obviously still friends. Two songs of the seven they performed that day have appeared on disc. "Moon at the Window" has appeared as a B-side for Joni's "How Do You Stop" CD single, and "Just Like This Train" came out on KCRW's "Rare On Air: Volume 2." The show was broadcast on the morning of October 25th. Read the full story at: http://www.JoniMitchell.com/LARadio94.html Info on obtaining the "Rare On Air" CD is at: http://www.kcrw.org/g/roa2.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:49:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 16 1987: Joni attends a Prince concert 1996: On today’s episode of the CBS-TV series "Chicago Hope," Joni's song "A Case Of You" was featured prominently. Dr. Diane Grad (played by actress Jayne Brook) sang it to a small child being operated on by Dr. Billy Kronk (played by actor Peter Berg). Billy asked Diane which Joni Mitchell album the song was from, and she told him Blue. "Depressing" he said. "Good" but "chick music" he called it. She told him that she had taken the album to show and tell in fifth grade. "Serious child, weren't you" he commented. At the end of the episode as Diane and Billy kiss goodbye, a verse from Joni's original version was heard. "Oh, I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet." From Wally's bio page: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Rewards.html 1997: The Detroit News publishes an article entitled "Song takes writer to Joni Mitchell's old Detroit apartment". The author writes "I was surprised to learn that she had moved to Detroit in 1965 after marrying local folk singer Chuck Mitchell. Though successful musically, the young couple separated only a year-and-a-half later. I wondered where they had lived and if the building still existed. It seemed like a fun idea to track down Joni's old haunts." Follow the quest at http://www.jonimitchell.com/DetroitNews997.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 00:21:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 7 1978: Today's Berkeley Monthly publishes an article on the Bread And Roses Festival, saying "For four years Joni has avoided the concert stage. Now she wants to showcase her new album. She has brought an accompanist by the name of Herbie Hancock to deal with her new Charles Mingus material. An hour before she is to go on she tunes nervously downstairs with a pick borrowed from a writer. She is small, almost crumpled, as worried, maybe, as the second angel in a Christmas play." Read the article at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/berk780907.htm 1979: Joni performs at the Civic Auditorium in San Francisco today and tomorrow. On Wally's site, Jim Leahy writes his impressions of the two concerts. An excerpt: "The eerie thing about these two shows is how similar they are. By this point in her career Joni had obviously learned how to put on a professional, well-oiled show. What differences there are relate to intensity of mood or focus, or to the soloists' improvisations. The crowd at the second show definitely seemed rowdier than the one on the first night -- although they did quieten down at all the right moments. As you will see from the accompanying photos, on the first night Joni's hair was all sensuous Dionysian locks; in the second photo her hair is tied up in a school-marmish bun." Read the full report and see the pictures at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/SF79.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:18:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 6 1979: Today's issue of Down Beat Magazine features an interview with Joni in an article entitled "Joni Mitchell Makes Mingus Sing." An excerpt: "There was a lot of mojo in [Mingus'] life - there's a lot of mojo in my life, too. He was very wrapped up with natural phenomena. And that's why I think we all had a certain amount of faith in the possibility that he could actually beat it. I always addressed myself to that possibility. If I hadn't, I know the songs would have been much more directed at Charles, like The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines would have probably had a different lyric content, or Sweet Sucker Dance. Because when it came down to the finished album, I thought, this is not a complete portrait of such a complex person; I wished then that every song had been dedicated to a certain aspect of his personality. Some addressed themselves directly; and indirectly they all had something that was kindred with his way." Read the entire article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/db790906.htm Also, Rolling Stone reviews "Mingus" today, saying "That's it - clawing at walls, challenging the implacable. Joni Mitchell keeps asking the hard questions, touching nerves. And the pressure she applies is increasingly brutal, increasingly deft. It's been a long time since her songs had much to do with whatever's current in popular music. (She would prefer we call them art songs.) But then, she doesn't so much come on as an outsider, but as a habitual nonexpert." Read the review at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/rs790906.htm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:06:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - September 23 1968: According to Ken Garner's book "In Session Tonight" (BBC Books 1993), today Joni recorded for John Peel's Radio 1program 'TOP GEAR.' The program was broadcast six days later. Joni sang Chelsea Morning, Galleries (sic), Night in the City, and Cactus Tree. Joni was booked for several other Radio 1 sessions during tours in 1968 and 1969, but all were cancelled for various reasons. 1985: The Alberta Reporter ran an editorial cartoon today with a likeness of Joni. Wally describes the situation on his website: "On what is called The Sunshine Coast near Vancouver, where Joni has had a house and property since the early 70's, a salmon fishing company had begun to build a huge $2 million plant. The other property owners, Joni's neighbors, asked her to join a protest against this enterprise that they believed could destroy the natural state of affairs in the area. Joni spoke to the press from her home in L.A. and said: "I thought I'd purchased a piece of wilderness, but it's being corrupted by industry." The Alberta Report newspaper took the side of the hatchery reporting that it would bring hundreds of jobs to the population who was heavily unemployed, and they claimed that Joni was not really a current resident and was rarely even in B.C. The salmon company complained that this was a case of a Hollywood celebrity trying to smear an honest fish business." See the cartoon at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Cartoon85.html 1994: From Wally's page: "[Today], Joni was the only performer in a special 90-minute edition of MuchMusic's "Intimate & Interactive." This show is probably the best and certainly the longest appearance Joni has ever done on TV." Read about it at: http://www.jonimitchell.com/MuchMusic94.html - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:01:01 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: History Overload Joniphiles - Oops! While upgrading my e-mail software to a new version, all the "history lessons" that I had queued up to be sent on various days escaped prematurely... Sorry about the unintented onslaught! Les - just a tad red in the face row ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:02:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - (was Today in Joni History - August 27) 1969: Joni and CSN perform the third of seven nights at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. 1994: Today's issue of Billboard Magazine features an article entitled "Joni Mitchell's Many Shades of Indigo" written by Timothy White. An excerpt: "The title song of the new record comes from a conference of the Canadian Council of the Arts that I spoke at in the early nineties" [Joni] explains. "The name of the conference was 'Making van Goghs,' and they said they wanted to focus on indigenous peoples, ethnic groups, and women. I opened my talk by saying you cannot make van Goghs,' and that artists can be encouraged or even groomed but not manufactured. Art is the result of experience, and van Gogh's despair and suicide are not what you'd want to duplicate." Read the entire article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/bb941027.htm 1997: The AllStar website published a blurb on Joni's new album today: "The tentative title for her next album is Taming the Tiger, and it's due in February. Meanwhile, the not- yet- titled tribute album, which doesn't even have a tentative street date yet, will feature Sting, Elvis Costello, Sarah McLachlan, Annie Lennox, k.d. lang, Janet Jackson, Etta James, and Chaka Khan. Both albums are due on Reprise." Read the article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/rt970827.htm -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:08:02 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: History Overload Les Irvin wrote: > Les - just a tad red in the face row Not at all. What a joy to get a month of Joni in one fell swoop! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:18:53 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: History Overload >Sorry about the unintented onslaught! >Les - just a tad red in the face row > Don't worry man, next time just mark 'em (FJC) for "Future Joni Content" and all will be cool! ;-) Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:41:00 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Re: History Overload Les Irvin wrote: > > Joniphiles - > Oops! While upgrading my e-mail software to a new version, all the > "history lessons" that I had queued up to be sent on various days escaped > prematurely... Would this be something like premature Joni-ejaculation... sorry....couldn't resist. Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:02:42 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Updated Garden report Wally has added some more of my pictures to the Garden report, including a shot of the JMDL banner! Please check it out when you get a chance. http://www.jonimitchell.com/OnTheRoadWoodstock98.html Take care, Sue ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: This month in... Goddamn that Joni was busy in late August and early September! Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:26:09 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: Woodstock Theme Park (NJC) Michael Y. wrote: > The *intention* is to make a profit. > > The *method* is by providing a Branson equivalent for the Woodstock generation. Omigod. I can see us all twenty years from now, boarding those Greyhound buses bound for Bethel ... Lori in San Antonio, feeling old enough already, and wondering who else noticed how strange that part of New York really is ??? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:16:06 -0500 From: Debra Kaufman Subject: Re: TTT in my office! Oh, my God, I can't believe it, but a friend just sent me the promo release of Joni's new CD! It arrived at work, and I'm taking it home to listen to it. At first I thought it was one of those "teasers" they give away at record stores to promote it, but no, it's the actual album. A Joni self-portrait with cats on the cover, B&W--it's the real deal. I feel kind of guilty not waiting till next month like everybody else, but shoot! I missed all her recent concerts. I love the reviews posted on the site and the wonderful pictures of Joni. Thank you all for doing that. It killed me that I was so close to the concert--in Middletown, NY-- and couldn't go because my husband's parents 50th wedding anniversary was that night! Sure do hope to see her on an upcoming tour, though... Debra &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. There is a crack, a crack in everything: that's how the light gets in." Leonard Cohen ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:27:58 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: Updated Garden report Thanks Sue. Great shot of the banner and all those smiling faces! Susan McNamara wrote: > Wally has added some more of my pictures to the Garden report, including a > shot of the JMDL banner! Please check it out when you get a chance. > > http://www.jonimitchell.com/OnTheRoadWoodstock98.html > > Take care, Sue > > ____________________ > /____________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > > > "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:34:56 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: History Overload(another viagra moment) Marsha wrote: > >Les Irvin wrote: > >escaped prematurely... > > Would this be something like premature Joni-ejaculation... > Probably, but not as bad as Steve D.'s that just kept coming and coming and coming. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:33:58 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: JM Autobiography? A second posting already!! I'm a bookseller and the following entry has been on my trade CD-ROM for some time now.......... Can anyone tell me if this is a live project? Perhaps it bears the same relationship to reality as the non-existent "Taming the Tiger" lyrics in the the "Songs and poems" collection? David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:33:52 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Annie Lennox/Diva In a message Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:55:37 EDT RickieLee1@aol.com wrote: >Subject: Re: Annie Lennox/Diva (SJC) >definitely a great album fred! i was a little disappointed that the follow up >was covers only (medusa, by the way) and did not have any more original stuff >as with diva. it has been awhile too. she ought to be due for a new release >soon. something to look forward to. one of the great voices in >pop/rock/whatever. just a great voice, no matter what the genre...thanks for >the reminder! i may need to go dig it out and give it a listen. >peace! ric Ric, when Annie Lennox was last in the public eye she was about to take extended maternity leave from the music biz, as I remember, so a comeback of some kind may be a while coming. If/when she decides to make more music she might do best to start promoting somewhere other than the UK. British journalists can be a pretty sour bunch and the press were carping at the fact that she consistently romped away with. "best female artist" awards and took this to be an indictment of the sterility and lack of invention of the UK music scene. Ho hum. While on the subject of somewhat forgetten singer/songwriters with excellent back catalogue can anyone enlighten me with any news of the excellent Aimee Mann? This is all a bit short of mentions of JM nd no longer a legitimate reply to Ric, but I'll carry on anyway. Apologies if I'm breaching ettiquette. I too am a JM group newbie like the recent "rubber beans" contributor. Sadly, I can't offer a similar contribution to light up anyone's day. I'm similarly perplexed by some of the acronyms - can someone tell me what "Siquomb" stands for? yours hopefully David Dmascall@aol.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #319 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?