From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #311 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, August 20 1998 Volume 03 : Number 311 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Woodstock review on EW online [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] A Day in the Garden Impressions [Medric Faulkner ] Nastassja Kinski [Steve Dulson ] Re: Nastassja Kinski (NJC) [Bolvangar@aol.com] Re: Clinton's Real Message -Let's Set The Record Straight (NJC) [IVPAUL42] Re: LA Times review [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Billie Holiday (LJC) [Bolvangar@aol.com] Re: Billie Holiday (now NJC) [Robert Holliston ] NJC/take 'em to the beach ["Julie Z. Webb" ] RE: Clinton's, Clarence Thomas and Bob Packwood (VLJ) ["Happy The Man" ] NJC Not Enough Clinton NJC [Michael Paz ] NJC - NEFEST PLEA! [Heather ] Re: NJC/take 'em to the beach ["Kakki" ] Re: Billie Holiday (& Steeleye Span) (NJC) [Mark or Travis ] Re: JMDL Digest V3 #296 [Bmcd@aol.com] positively 7th heaven (NJC) [Gerald McNamara ] I don't know where I'm at in time AJC [Bmcd@aol.com] Re: "MAN at the Window"?! [DSKittrell ] Re: LA Times review [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Taming the tiger [FredNow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Woodstock review on EW online >...an emcee anounced between sets, >"there's an ATM machine up on the side." I keep hearing, in my mind's ear, Chip Monk or Hugh Romney saying this in '69. :) gdave NP: Video of the Day 8/19/89 Grateful Dead: Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Medric Faulkner Subject: A Day in the Garden Impressions It was truly a great day for me. My only regret was that I was unable to make contact with my fellow list members. A delayed plane out of Houston put us at our hotel room in Manhattan at 3:00 AM Saturday morning but we were at The Port Authority to get the bus by 7:45. Erroneous information from my travel agent and the fact that we were out-of-towners caused us to miss the 8:15 bus so we had to settle for the 10:15 which put us at the concert at 1:00. I could see the group but I was unable to get to you from my vantage point at stage right.I cheered and clapped along with you anyway and I was proud of the fact that the level of enthusiasm could leave no doubt that Joni's music is much loved and appreciated. This was my fourth time to see her. Each performance was great. For me, this was the most special. I thought she was in top form and that she chose and ordered the selections with the same care that she prepares her albums. Isn't it amazing the growth she continues to have as an artist. I think she's just hitting her stride. It isn't necessary for me that she have a "hit." All her songs are hits to me. But I can certainly see much potential for her reaching a wider audience with the new album. Each selection that I have heard should have mass appeal and I plan to do my part with requests to the local radio stations. My 22 year old Goddaughter attended this performance and the one at jazzfest in '95 completely unfamiliar with her work. I am encouraged that at young person such as she can become a fan when she has only been exposed to what popular radio is. Our entire conversation on the five hour flight home centered on emotions evoked by individual songs. Her love for the deeply sad Magdalene Launderies lets me know that there is hope for the world with her generation. Finally, I thought it very poignant when the flocks of geese or maybe swans flew behind Joni going home to roost for the night as she sang Woodstock. Was it maybe nature's way of giving her a blessing for a job so well done for so long. Love to all, Medric Faulkner "Last night the ghosts of my old ideals reran on channel five." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:58:16 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Nastassja Kinski MTV Reported: >The show drew a number of celebrity guests, >including Natalie Imbruglia, k.d. lang, Graham >Nash, Nastassja Kinski, and Rosanna Arquette, >who introduced Mitchell. How did I miss Nastassja Kinski??? ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:04:48 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: Nastassja Kinski (NJC) Steve Dulson wrote: <> Let's all place bets on how many times the above post will show up. ;) - --David NP: Sandy Denny, _Gold Dust: Live at the Royalty (The Final Concert)_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:24:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Clinton's Real Message -Let's Set The Record Straight (NJC) In a message dated 8/18/98 5:43:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TerryM2442@aol.com writes: << My fellow Americans, I've decided to do my part to put an end to the speculation, rumors and political bickering that has been rampant across the country for the past weeks. I want to do what's right and speak to you tonight with honesty, integrity and sincerity....I banged her. I banged her like a cheap gong. >> While this little parody is quite amusing, I think it's really on point. If the president is doing his job and doing it well, by most accounts, should we really care with whom and how he is getting his sexual release as long as it does not compromise national security? Isn't that an issue to be discussed by him and his wife, and not us? If they called a session of Congress tomorrow, but excluded all those members who had been unfaithful to their spouse at some point during their polical career, could they raise a quorum? I doubt it. It's too bad that the people of this nation are so small-minded that they have to spend all this time, effort and money on the president's sex life. At least he has one. As for Kenneth Starr and the others, especially the media moguls, who are trying to make this molehill into a mountain, I'm not so sure. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:09:24 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: LA Times review I was offline for a couple of days while I moved to a larger apartment in the same complex, mainly so my osn could have his own room and I could get all my records and books out of the storage prison to which my now ex-wife had banished them. As I logged back on this evening, I saw I had 319 mail messages and figures it would take me until the morning to wade through them all. Fortunately, the task turned out to be less daunting because ABOUT 240 OF THEM were copies of Steve's posting of the LA Times review. Thanks, Steve, for easing my load. ;>) And thanks to the rest of you for your info/reviews of the Garden. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:11:45 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: Billie Holiday (LJC) <> Like Deb wrote, many old folk songs are very clearly "protest songs" -- perhaps because the oral tradition remained strongest among the lower class, so its songs sang of their concerns. There's the Scottish Jacobite songs, some of them from Robert Burns, about oppression under the English, and similar Irish songs....and some of the British ballads are clearly, to me, indictments of the class system, like "Matty Groves," about the lord who kills his wife's lower class lover. And labor songs about the British coal miners and so forth. And then, I think some of the great Bessie Smith's songs (from the '20s) have a definite edge of commentary about race and class relations. Like the one about "Mister rich man, open up your heart and mind," though I forget the rest of the lyric now. Perhaps it's just a question of what Vanity Fair considers a "significant" protest. - --David NP in my head: Steeleye Span, "Parcel of Rogues" (trad. Scottish, from Robert Burns): "...I'll make this declaration/We were bought and sold for English gold/Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Holliston Subject: Re: Billie Holiday (now NJC) Hi David, Thank you for including that last sentence - I was worried that Deb thought I was endorsing this statement. Someone on the American Masters video also identifies Strange Fruit as the first real protest song - because it seems to have come earlier on the social calendar than the American Civil Rights Movement. I'm quite sure that was the focus of both the Vanity Fair article and the TV show - sorry not to have been clearer. To Billie Holiday, though, it must have felt like a first - she sure took a lot of heat for it. All the best, Roberto ><focuses on the song "Strange Fruit," which is described as the first >significant protest song.>> > > Like Deb wrote, many old folk songs are very clearly "protest songs" -- >perhaps because the oral tradition remained strongest among the lower class, >so its songs sang of their concerns. There's the Scottish Jacobite songs, some >of them from Robert Burns, about oppression under the English, and similar >Irish songs....and some of the British ballads are clearly, to me, indictments >of the class system, like "Matty Groves," about the lord who kills his wife's >lower class lover. And labor songs about the British coal miners and so forth. > And then, I think some of the great Bessie Smith's songs (from the >'20s) have >a definite edge of commentary about race and class relations. Like the one >about "Mister rich man, open up your heart and mind," though I forget the rest >of the lyric now. > Perhaps it's just a question of what Vanity Fair considers a >"significant" >protest. > >--David > >NP in my head: Steeleye Span, "Parcel of Rogues" (trad. Scottish, from Robert >Burns): "...I'll make this declaration/We were bought and sold for English >gold/Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:01:34 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: NJC/take 'em to the beach At 09:11 PM 8/19/98 EDT, Deb wrote: ><focuses on the song "Strange Fruit," which is described as the first >significant protest song.>> Allow me to mention that this month's (Sept.)"Vanity Fair," although often thin, is an especially interesting issue altogether. Aside from the Billie Holiday article, there's an interview with Tom Wolfe, and a fasinating chapter from the memoir by author, Joyce Maynard, who had a teenage affair with J.D. Salinger. There's also a biting expose that rips to shreads - Dr. Laura (Shlessinger,) Judge Judy's doppleganger. And enough perspectives on the Clinton situation to cause you to wonder even more.... And The "New Yorker" has a double issue (August 24 and 31) and it's a juicy one with "Private Lives" as it's cental theme. First off, David Sedaris, my favorite commentary guest on NPR, writes about his father using his special blend of insight and humor; a scathing review of Joyce Maynard's new memoir about her affair with JD Sallinger; A report on opera diva, Cecilia Bartoli....And for you "Amelia"-aviation enthusiasts, Reeve Lindbergh relives her childhood growing up in the shadows of her heroic father, Charles Lindbergh....and yet, still, even more perspectives on the Clinton situation. -JulieZW "I was driving across the burning desert, when I spotted six jet planes leaving six white vapor trails across the bleak terrain. It was the hexagram of the heavens..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:01:35 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: RE: Clinton's, Clarence Thomas and Bob Packwood (VLJ) Let's be realistic. He abused his power, just like Bob Packwood. Let's also be specific if he had to go through the same thing that Clarence Thomas was going through he would have withdrawn his name from the office. Also, why were they hanging a young lady? Personally I was hoping he would have the guts to face the music and at least come off even a little remotely remorseful like Jimmy Swaggart. Does he have the balls to face his God right now. He says he does in his speech. The guys an asshole the office is a piece of shit. Where is the Gore right now spraying his hair with another can of Hair Net before the cloud moves away from washington. He is run away to Hawaii other then face the music. At least Nixon Lied to us. Wait isn't that what Clinton is doing? I repeat from my following post: I would think the number one song would be Cherokee Louise. Something about Her Foster President yanking her to her knees. Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:25:00 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Thanks For all the Garden Posts! Hey All, Just wanted to put in my .02 to also say thanks for all the stories about your day in the Garden - it was truly like being there, only I know it wasn't near as fun being on the sidelines. Additionally, it was disappointing to have to scroll through all the Clinton crud to get to the great Joni Posts. Now, I typically like NJC just fine, but maybe we should establish a one week moratorium on NJC when she's in concert or releasing a record or something else equally important. I know all the arguments for & against NJC, furthermore I think it's useful to jumpstart the list when things are quiet - but that was not the case the last couple of days - I got 4 digests in an 12 hour period, and read with glee all the accounts of the illustrious Starlite motel, The Banners, buttons, other acts at the Garden, etc. Then I had to wade through what really seemed irellevant Clinton garbage. It was like spots of piss in an otherwise snowy landscape. I guess it's unavoidable, indeed, I hadn't posted in about a week because I knew there was live Joni posts coming in! What could I say to compare? Anyway, thanks again for all the Garden accounts! Bob M. in SC, where the only time Joni's heard is when I play it... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:25:06 -0400 From: Heather Subject: RE: Clinton's, Clarence Thomas and Bob Packwood (VLJ) At 09:01 PM 8/19/98 -0600, you wrote: >Let's be realistic. > >He abused his power, just like Bob Packwood. > >Let's also be specific if he had to go through the same thing that Clarence >Thomas was going through he would have withdrawn his name from the office. > Well, what makes me mad is that a while back he was talking about family values and how there are too many single parented families in America. Infidelity caused many of these single parented families. In my book, that makes Clinton a hypocrite. If all the Presidents before are guilty of infidelity then does that make it "OK" ...forever? Hasn't anyone ever heard of change? I, for one, do not like to see history repeat itself .... makes for boring reading ... I'll leave you with this: Clinton is giving the American public what it likes - Sex and Gore! I couldn't resist - seemed so appropriate. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:37:19 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: [Fwd: Re: joni mitchell] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------2B5B242F172F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now *this* is cool. A disk jockey at our local non-profit radio station, Stacy Owen, personally emails her support for the un-heard new Joni. I'm sending a copy of the KCRW "Morning Becomes Eclectic" tape so she can say "I heard part of it and it's good." - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** - --------------2B5B242F172F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail2.one.net for jlamadoo (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Wed Aug 19 22:08:07 1998) X-From_: owens@NKU.EDU Tue Aug 18 16:12:59 1998 Received: from axp1.nku.edu ([192.122.237.2] EHLO axp1.nku.edu ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 50181]) by mail2.one.net with ESMTP id <19811-21600>; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:12:54 -0400 Received: from [10.6.3.8] (nkunet.nku.edu) by NKU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-9 #29758) with ESMTP id <01J0R6W3I36O96VL33@NKU.EDU> for jlamadoo@one.net; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:13:37 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by NKU.EDU From: Stacy Owen Subject: Re: joni mitchell X-Sender: owens@pop.nku.edu To: jlamadoo@one.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jim, Haven't gotten anything from the new Joni yet...you can be sure you'll hear it on WNKU when it's available though! Stacy - --------------2B5B242F172F-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:32:06 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: NJC Not Enough Clinton NJC THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ENOUGH COVERAGE ON THIS WHOLE CLINTON/LEWINSKY THING SO LETS INUNDATE OURSELVES WITH IT HERE ON THE JONI LIST respectfully, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:00:20 -0400 From: Heather Subject: NJC - NEFEST PLEA! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The New England Joni Fest is only 2 weeks away!!!!! Let's get psyched!!!! Joni! Joni! Joni! - (left over from the Garden!) I'm sorry to waste bandwidth here but I need help. I need a list of all the folks who are coming to Ashara's on Sept. 5th so, I can make name tags. I need this ASAP. Names (first and last) and corresponding e-mail address. For many this will be a first time meet and name tags come in handy. Ashara is still away on vacation (I think) which is why I need to solicit attendees. So far,I have the following: Ashara Maggie myself Chuck E. Ric Julie W. Katie (from the Cape) Marian David Wright Kakki I know there are more but, I just don't have the names. PLEASE E-MAIL ME PRIVATELY, THANKS. ALSO - Watch for Maggie's upcoming e-mail on NEFest a la Joni food menu coming soon! Thank you everyone! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:22:29 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC/take 'em to the beach Julie wrote: > Allow me to mention that this month's (Sept.)"Vanity Fair," although > often thin, is an especially interesting issue altogether. I agree, it *is* a particularly meaty read this month. The article on Billie Holliday is very good and I also was fascinated by Maynard's story of her affair with J.D. Salinger (wow, he was out there). >And for you "Amelia"-aviation enthusiasts, Reeve > Lindbergh relives her childhood growing up in the shadows of her heroic > father, Charles Lindbergh.... Funny that the New Yorker has so many articles on the same topics - Vanity Fair also has a piece on Lindbergh's new biography by A. Scott Berg, written with the help of Anne Morrow Lindbergh (a personal heroine). Kakki NP: CNN (same old same old ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:54:16 -0700 From: Mark or Travis Subject: Re: Billie Holiday (& Steeleye Span) (NJC) Bolvangar@aol.com wrote: > > < focuses on the song "Strange Fruit," which is described as the first > significant protest song.>> > Perhaps it's just a question of what Vanity Fair considers a "significant" > protest. > > --David > > NP in my head: Steeleye Span, "Parcel of Rogues" (trad. Scottish, from Robert > Burns): "...I'll make this declaration/We were bought and sold for English > gold/Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!" I love this song. They sing it with just a single drum beating a steady rhythm in the background and their harmonies are beautiful. Then after the vocals are finished there's a beautiful restatement of the melody by just a few strings. Very nice and very moving. I'm going to have to get this Vanity Fair. As Brad Fors can attest, I'm a passionate fan of Billie's. I don't think there was ever a better interpreter of a lyric (and that includes Sinatra who I believe cited Billie as an influence). 'Strange Fruit' is a very powerful song. Maybe the significance that the VF article attaches to it is that it was an original song that was actually recorded by a contemporary artist (as opposed to a folk song handed down from one generation to the next). Some critics have said that the song ruined Billie because she took on the persona of the dramatic diva after she recorded it and stopped being the free-swinging jazz singer that she was in the 30's. I don't really buy that. One of the things that bugs me about the image of Billie that has evolved since the film 'Lady Sings the Blues' is that she was this tragic figure who sang sad torch & blues songs. She did sing her share of torchy songs but she could also swing with the best of them and there is a lot of joy in many of the songs she recorded. This is borne out from her early recordings in the 30's up through the records she made for Verve in the 50's. Billie was a fighter for much of her life. I don't think it was til close to the end that she gave up the struggle. 'Strange Fruit' was her personal up-raised fist to the ugly monster of racism. She brandished it with a fine sense of its tragedy but also with a healthy dose of defiance and rage. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 00:29:58 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Not Enough Clinton NJC Michael Paz respectfully wrote: > THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ENOUGH COVERAGE ON THIS WHOLE CLINTON/LEWINSKY THING SO LETS INUNDATE OURSELVES WITH IT HERE ON THE JONI LIST Actually, I'm pleased and amazed that there seems to be comparatively few posts here about it ... Lori in San Antonio, who uses her Delete key regularly, and who is bracing herself for a discussion of the deaths of Princess Diana and Mother Theresa around the end of the month ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:40:12 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: joni supermarket synchronicity I just got back last night from a 10 day trip to Honey Harbour, Ontario. This small vacation cottage town consists of only a grocery/hardware store and a gift shop. While browsing in the gift shop I heard a very faint familiar sound coming from a small radio sitting on the floor in the back of the store. It was "Come In From The Cold"! BH1248@aol.com wrote: > > to fully appreciate the Joni in the supermarket experience that > > I just had > > As I exited Superamerica today I heard a couple of familiar notes which I knew > belonged to Joni. I was prepared to re-enter the store in order to name that > tune, but found speakers outside to serenade gasoline pumpers. Sure enough, it > was "Come in from the Cold" and it was from "Night Ride Home", not a Muzak > version. > > Kingpin (bummed 'cause my CMIARS is misplaced) > NP: Dead Can Dance, "A Passage in Time" - -- Phyliss pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:00:21 EDT From: Bmcd@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #296 In a message dated 98-08-09 03:04:12 EDT, you write: << Laura the Womb Queen ______________________________________ "Wombstock" We are crowded/There's no room/ We've got to get ourselves/Back to the womb..... >> Wombie: I love it!! Hey, where you been? I've got your MOJO. Karen Mc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 6:08:47 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: positively 7th heaven (NJC) I've always said that Joni's one and only concert in Melbourne (in 1983) was the best show I've ever seen. But I'm on the verge of declaring a new personal best. Last night I was fortunate enough to be one of a few hundred lucky fans at the Mercury Lounge to see Bob Dylan do a warm-up gig before he launches into the Australia-NewZealand leg of his Neverending Tour. This was one of those rare small, intimate, club shows. (just like on the interactive Highway 61 CD ROM !) A ticket to this gig was the hottest item in town these last few days. This morning's papers reported that ticketless fans were offering $700 for one. But there were no sellers. (face value was $42). The promoter claimed he'd had numerous enquiries about ticket sales from fans overseas. Everyone wanted to be there. The audience went mad when Bob strolled onstage and the band started into a rollicking "Leopard-Skin Pill Box Hat". The crowd reaction was like that at a sporting event.... like the football Grand Final. Such cheering. Bob got a real vibe back from the crowd - in such a small standing-only venue, no-one was far from the stage. And everyone was cheering. This elicited a great big grin from Bob .... and it was only the first song. And it all went up-hill from there. Bob played 20 songs and was onstage for 2 hours and 15 mins. He responded to swells of enthusiasm from the crowd , while playing guitar, by moving around the stage like a subdued Mick Jagger. Several times he actually played up to people in the audience. I heard the discussion amongst a group of guys after the show, as they tried to figure out which of them Bob was poking faces at ! Whatever, Bob's un-Bob-like behaviour brought the house down. His singing was magnificent (well, for Bob) and the band was fantastic - on both electric and acoustic sets. I'm looking forward to his 2 stadium shows (Fri & Sat) and if they're half as good as last night's gig they'll be great. I only hope Joni comes out here again so as she can have a chance to reclaim her title as outright best-ever concert performer, cos I think Bob just drew level. -Gerald Mac, Melbourne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:19:46 EDT From: Bmcd@aol.com Subject: I don't know where I'm at in time AJC Well, MJC. I am working like a mad woman so digests sit unread. But I read a couple tonight before I go to bed now and read the newspaper delivered 18 hours ago. It's just a diversion. I'm so sick of Billscam (I'm not trying to start a thread, so please don't), I really wish one of our two large papers would just say, sorry, it's not worth the space, we know we'll lose some readers, but we feel, because of this bold move marked by integrity, we will gain many readers. It's all a dream...... Segue into relevant topic.... I have been a joni fan since 1974 when my then boyfriend had Court and Spark. I became a FANatic when Mingus came out and the rest is history. I could listen to joni and only joni. I do listen to other music, I make myself. BUT, I could never get into DJRD. I got the vinyl a number of years ago, 10 or 15, and just couldn't get into it. Recently, I decided to go put some money into the joni coffers and went out and got it on HDCD. I listened two or three times and thought, this could be someone's favorite joni album???? It's been in my CD player in my car for 3 weeks or so, now. I kept playing it over and over. It's all I've listened to. I have become addicted. This is a fascinating piece of work. For me her most adventerous. This is where she took her leap and left the mainstream as far as I'm concerned. These songs are masterpieces. The one that was the hardest for me to get into, is now my favorite, Paprika Plains. My God, it's gorgeous. "In the washroom women tracked the rain Up to the make-up mirror Liquid soap and grass And Jungle Gardenia crash On Pine Sol and beer..." No one can take such an unbelievably mundane moment in a night and put it like that and sing it like she does. Then... "Back in my hometown They would have cleared the floor Just to watch the rain come down!" What an image. This is so typical of my experience with joni albums except I never had to listen quite as many times before it hit me. Usually two or three listens and I found most of the beauty and relevance. Now a question: On DJRD - the song - at the end when she's singing You and I Eagles in the sky You and I Snakes in the grass You and I Crawling and flying.... is it my imagination or do I hear the guitar that was to become Coyote?? I miss you all. Trying to keep up. I did get my tapes to my branch leader. I do have my priorities. And I did get my MOJO. Yours in jonispirit, Karen Mc just found DJRD (I'm a lucky girl) and now salivating for the official TTT with all the songs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:38:38 -0400 From: DSKittrell Subject: Re: "MAN at the Window"?! some millers wrote: > > Did the Daily News reporter actually make this humerous mistake (see excerpt > below), or was it some kind of transcription error? I'd > be interested to see what Joni would come-up with if she were to rework her > lyrics to fit that title (The Man at the Window)! - ------ > >Opening with "Hejira," Mitchell stressed rare material, like > >1983's "The Man at the Window," "Slouching Towards Bethlehem," and three > >songs from her upcoming album. - ----- I'm looking at the actual newspaper now and yes, it says "The Man At The Window." So rare only the writer knows about it. Wonder if he unknowingly put himself in two grey rooms. Aren't such rearrangements fascinating? Joni really taps into the mystery, even when her lyrics seem so straightforward and obvious. Ahhh.... Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:53:35 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: LA Times review Could someone post it here? I'd really like to see it. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:57:38 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Taming the tiger >>One I hear of often is "disciplining the monkey" or "training the >>puppy". I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is what she is >>referring to. Hey ... wait a minute ... these are sexual euphemisms, no? "Disciplining the monkey"? "Training the puppy"? "Taming the tiger"? Now I get it! - -Fred ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #311 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?