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JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 19 1998 Volume 03 : Number 310
The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available
now. Go to for all the details.
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The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank
message to for all the details.
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Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things
Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered -
to
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And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee.
Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to
for more info.
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The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at
and contains the latest news, a detailed bio,
Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more.
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The JMDL website can be found at and contains
Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives,
and much more.
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
Billie Holiday (LJC) [Robert Holliston ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
Steve Dulson's wacky multiplying posts (NJC) ["Deb Messling" ]
"Hypocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury" (Re: Clinton, NJC) ["Winfried Hühn" ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
Great Info Site - NJC [Jerry Notaro ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
info site [Jerry Notaro ]
joni @ mtv news + magic garden moments [bryan thomas ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
Happy Birthday!!! [The Yarn Kollection ]
NJC - You gotta hear this.. [Heather ]
joni news from mtv online [Tortorici@exchange.conference-board.org]
More on the TV Special [Michael Yarbrough ]
RE: From Joe (NJC) [Michael Yarbrough ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
fall tour ["Wong, Kai" ]
Happy Birthday! (NJC) [Mark Domyancich ]
New England JOnifest ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
ps. New England JOnifest ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
All are Discounting!!!! ["Julie Z. Webb" ]
And a-one, and a-two....(JC) [Steve Dulson ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
LA Times review [Steve Dulson ]
Re: LA Times review - NJC [LRFye@aol.com]
Taming the tiger [Les Irvin ]
Re: LA Times review - NJC [Susanne Powers ]
Sept 29th - A very good day for shopping [Guy Brown ]
also released 9/29 Laura Love, Sheryl Crow, Melissa Ferrick, The Nields, and PJ Harvey. (LJC) ["James A. Murra]
Re: Sept 29th - A very good day for shopping [catman ]
"Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury" (Re: Clinton) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0?= (NJC) [Bounced Message ]
Re: LA Times review - NJC [Mark Domyancich ]
NJC - New Me'Shell NdegeOcello discussion list [Bounced Message ]
Re: trio (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ]
earlier joni from mtv online [Tortorici@exchange.conference-board.org]
NJC - NYC Jmdlers only need read [Brian Gross ]
A BRIEF THANX!! [KerriLynn@aol.com]
C'mon Get Happy -- Joni and The Partridge Family [Bill Dollinger ]
The Ideal JMDL (NJC) [Mark Domyancich ]
Woodstock review on EW online ["Wong, Kai" ]
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:08:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Holliston
Subject: Billie Holiday (LJC)
Howdy!
Brad asked about Comes Love: Billie Holiday sings it sensationally on the
Verve Silver Collection, a CD I have loved for years and would never want
to be without. These recordings are from the 1950s - in other words, late
Billie Holiday, when many critics said that her voice was shot (though a
lot of jazz greats like Miles Davis and Carmen McRae think she's at her
very greatest).
Earlier tonight, the American Masters episode on Lady Day was on TV - I
watched it for the umpteenth time and was spellbound yet again.
There is an excellent article about her in this month's Vanity Fair that
focuses on the song "Strange Fruit," which is described as the first
significant protest song.
Now that Joni's thinking of doing a cover album of swing era material, it
occurred to me that there are several songs on Billie's Verve CD that would
be perfect - I'd love to hear Joni's renditions of:
Darn That Dream
Body and Soul
Gee Baby Ain't I Good To You
All Or Nothing At All
Whatever she decides to sing, though, it'll be an album to look forward to!!
All the best,
Roberto
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:17:31 +0000
From: "Deb Messling"
Subject: Steve Dulson's wacky multiplying posts (NJC)
Besides Steve, is anyone getting any *other* multiple posts? I have
been, for the past few days, and one of the posts I sent showed up
twice also.
Talk among yourselves. I'm disappearing for a few days to attend a
wedding (for my niece -- the one whose real wedding was in a hospital
in May).
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:24:52 +0000
From: "Deb Messling"
Subject: Re: Billie Holiday (NJC)
I'll have to read that article. Strange Fruit is an awesome song,
but I have a hard time believing it is the first significant protest
song! I was listening the other day to a Scottish ballad which is a
protest song in disguise. And certainly there's a long tradition of
labor songs that precedes Strange Fruit. Which, BTW, was written by
the guy that adopted the children of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. I
think it was banned from radio airplay for a time, presumably because
of the Red associations of the songwriter. (Your trivia for 6 AM).
> There is an excellent article about her in this month's Vanity Fair that
> focuses on the song "Strange Fruit," which is described as the first
> significant protest song.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:34:38 +0200
From: "Winfried Hühn"
Subject: "Hypocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury" (Re: Clinton, NJC)
"The problem has never been our political logic
but the way we enact it
We can imagine a perfect society
but can't maintain a decent relationship
The failure found in the luxuries
not in the hardships
Hypocrisy is the Greatest Luxury
Raise the Double Standard"
- -------------------------------------
from the song and the album
"Hypocrisy is the Greatest Luxury"
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy (1992)
Food for thoughts?
Winfried
who thinks "Hipocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury" is one of the best protest
albums ever written, even though I disagree with many statements they
make. "Television, The Drug Of the Nation" and "Language of Violence"
are two great songs. Honest and angry lyrics throughout the entire
album. Great Poetry, and the proof that hip-hop indeed can be high art.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:24:08 +-100
From: Hassan Zubairi
Subject: [none]
It's my Birthday!!!!
love from JamieJake
NP: Sketches for my Sweetheart
a present from my brother
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:39:53 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Great Info Site - NJC
For information freaks (like me), Information Please has a great new
site. Very comprehensive search engine, and lots of interesting facts at
their music site.
Jerry
np: jane oliver - so fine
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:08:15 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: info site
Remembered everything but the info:
INFORMATION PLEASE...
- ---------------------
InfoPlease.com is a new one-stop reference site that freely offers
millions of up-to-the-minute facts and statistics covering just about
everything. The site integrates the various Information Please(R)
Almanacs on sports, entertainment and general knowledge with the Random
House Webster's College Dictionary and The Columbia Encyclopedia (Fifth
Ed.) into a single reference source that puts a wealth of facts just a
mouse click away.
http://InfoPlease.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:33:09 -0400
From: bryan thomas
Subject: joni @ mtv news + magic garden moments
fahgetabout vh1: here's an mtv news article
on joni from mtv. the second in five days,
no less. (does this mean she's pitched the
show to them? does this mean they definitely
won't be the ones airing it?)
but before the news, here was bry-bry's favorite
moment from the garden show:
joni singing 'just like this train' solo style:
by looking closely thru the sheer red curtain
at the back of the stage, just over mama joni's
shoulder, i could see kilauren dancing in
circles with her son. magic, i tell ya, magic!
a second magic moment: during 'black crow,' i
hallucinated that i was the only one in the
audience. (an hallucination inspired only by
the emotion of the music, mind you - no acid,
brown or otherwise, was involved.)
peace,
b.
- ------------------
http://mtv.com/news/headlines/980819/story4.html
http://mtv.com/news/gallery/m/mitchell980814.html
8.19.98 8:35 EDT
Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To Television
Joni Mitchell is currently shopping around a
90-minute concert television special that she
hopes will find a home on a network or perhaps
pay-per-view.
Mitchell and an outfit named Eagle Rock are
making the rounds with the special, which
captures an intimate performance Mitchell
gave in late May on the Warner Bros. Lot in
Burbank, Caliornia.
The show drew a number of celebrity guests,
including Natalie Imbruglia, k.d. lang, Graham
Nash, Nastassja Kinski, and Rosanna Arquette,
who introduced Mitchell.
The show also featured a gallery showing of
Mitchell's paintings, which were on display
during Mitchell's performance.
It's not yet known which tracks from that
performance made the cut for the special, but
here's a look at what Mitchell rolled out that
night for the small audience gathered in Burbank:
Night Ride Home
Crazy Cries of Love
Harry's House
Slouching To Bethlehem
Just Like This Train
Black Crow
Amelia
Hejira
Big Yellow Taxi
Facelift
Sex Kills
The Magdalene Laundries
Moon at the Window
Woodstock
The Three Great Stimulants
Song For Sharon
Why Do Fools Fall In Love?
Refuge of the Roads
Nothing Can Be Done
- -----------------------------------
http://www.bryanthomas.com
music@bryanthomas.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:45:35 -0400
From: The Yarn Kollection
Subject: Happy Birthday!!!
AMY AWESOME. That's knowing how to celebrate right.
To all who had or have cause to celebrate something special in the month
of August,
Wrapped in happiness and love may your celebrations hold good memories
for a life time.
Mendi
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:44:41 -0400
From: Heather
Subject: NJC - You gotta hear this..
From our local paper - the Hartford Courant -
WEST HARTFORD - The call at police headquarters was listed as a 10-97:
kidnapping. But police say what actually took place was a cat-napping. And
Flora Allen's dogs are suspects.
Two dogs in West Hartford's Balfour Drive neighborhood attacked and
possibly killed a neighbor's cat Saturday evening. One witness believes
the dogs belong to Allen, mother of basketball star Ray Allen.
Karen Jones, assistant animal control officer, is investigating the weekend
incident.
Jones said the cat's owner watched as two Rottweilers ran onto his outdoor
deck about 7:00pm Saturday and attacked the cat, named Izzy. The cat has
not been found, Jones said.
Allen could not be reached for comment.
The Saturday night incident is just the latest of Allen's dog problem's,
which began earlier this year when nearby residents complained to police
about Allen's barking Rottweilers, Sheeba and Samson.
In response, Allen hired celebrity attorney, Johnnie Cochran, who appeared
with Allen in court earlier this month when the judge imposed a 9pm - 8am
indoor curfew for the animals.
Allen is to appear in court again on March 31, 1999. ------ END
WELL! Looks like Johnnie is still defending animals!
Heather
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:03:36 -0400
From: Tortorici@exchange.conference-board.org
Subject: joni news from mtv online
8.19.98 8:35 EDT
Joni Mitchell Tries To Bring Concert To
Television
Joni Mitchell
Joni Mitchell is currently shopping around a
90-minute concert
television special that she hopes will find a
home on a network
or perhaps pay-per-view.
Mitchell and an outfit named Eagle Rock are
making the
rounds with the special, which captures an
intimate
performance Mitchell gave in late May on the
Warner Bros.
Lot in Burbank, Caliornia.
The show drew a number of celebrity guests,
including Natalie
Imbruglia, k.d. lang, Graham Nash, Nastassja
Kinski, and
Rosanna Arquette, who introduced Mitchell.
The show also featured a gallery showing of
Mitchell's
paintings, which were on display during
Mitchell's
performance.
It's not yet known which tracks from that
performance made
the cut for the special, but here's a look at
what Mitchell rolled
out that night for the small audience gathered
in Burbank:
Night Ride Home
Crazy Cries of Love
Harry's House
Slouching To Bethlehem
Just Like This Train
Black Crow
Amelia
Hejira
Big Yellow Taxi
Facelift
Sex Kills
The Magdalene Laundries
Moon at the Window
Woodstock
The Three Great Stimulants
Song For Sharon
Why Do Fools Fall In Love?
Refuge of the Roads
Nothing Can Be Done
For more on Joni Mitchell, check out the MTV
News
Gallery.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:19:51 -0400
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: More on the TV Special
From Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/):
Outlets Sought For Joni Mitchell TV Special
Producers of the 90-minute television special
"An Evening With Joni Mitchell Live In Los
Angeles" are negotiating with such cable and
broadcast networks as TNT and PBS and
satellite pay-per-view providers Viewer's
Choice, USSB, and DirecTV to telecast the
show. Planned for the fall, the program is
based on performances shot May 29 and 30
on the Warner Bros. movie lot; it also
features footage of Mitchell's paintings. Rosanna Arquette
emcees the show, on which Mitchell performs 22 songs,
including six encores. The concert opens with "Night Ride
Home" and winds up with a cover of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
To read about Mitchell's forthcoming album, "Taming The
Tiger," see the Aug. 22 issue of Billboard.
- -- Don Jeffrey, N.Y
Looks like someone sent out a press release, maybe even followed
it up with some phone calls. Indeed, someone may be promoting
Joni after all.
- --Michael
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:43:11 -0400
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: RE: From Joe (NJC)
Mendi sent along:
<<>>
So when's he changing his JMDL membership status from
honorary to official?
Get him on over here!
- --Michael
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:51:23 -0400
From: "Wong, Kai"
Subject: fall tour
From what I read in the Aug 22 Billboard article, joni is seriously
contemplating a tour this fall in October or November. Has anyone heard
anything more recent?
Kai
np (in my head): Please come to Boston
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:55:21 -0500
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Happy Birthday! (NJC)
Happy Birthday to fellow list member Hayley MacPhee!
She was at the Garden but didn't dare join the JMDLRV get-together.
o o o o o
|__|__|__|__|
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|~~~~~~~~~~~|
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____
| |
O=|o\/o|=O Mark Domyancich
O=|o\/o|=O
O=|o\/o|=O Harpua@revealed.net
\||/
|==| http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/guitar.html
|__|
|__|
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:09:45 -0500
From: "Julie Z. Webb"
Subject: New England JOnifest
Everybody Interested in Ashara's New England Jonifest,
After squeezing this 'last minute' discounted tidbit out of the USAIR
reservationist, I **just** found out that US AIR is running a special rate
to Boston for only $93 on Labor Day Weekend. The catch is that you have to
leave on Saturday after 12 noon and return Sunday. So I paid for my seat
this morning. YOU MUST CALL TODAY OR TOMORROW, because the seats are
limited. (Im not sure if this special is for Pittsburgh/Boston only, but it
is worth looking into.) I arrive in Boston at 5:39 PM and leave Sunday at
7:15 PM. I could not pass up an opportunity to hear Chuck E perform as
well as guitarist-extraordinaire Marian from Vienna, jmdl piano prodigey
David Bolanger Wright and "Swimming and Singing With Dolpins Ashara." And
Im so looking forward to seeing Heather and Kakki again and meeting Maggie,
Rickie, Bryan and who?mever decides to come. Im working on Tuning Terry M
from Detroit and Songstress Sherelle from Ohio. I think that this is going
to be even more of a Joni-musical jamfest than Jonifest Pittsburgh because
there will be musicians in attendance. So please come to Boston all of
you JMDL jammers out there,
- -JulieZW, not a musician, but loves hearing Joni's music played and sung by
friends
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:16:14 -0500
From: "Julie Z. Webb"
Subject: ps. New England JOnifest
Should have read, "even more musicians in attendance." -
> I think that this is going
>to be even more of a Joni-musical jamfest than Jonifest Pittsburgh because
>there will be musicians in attendance.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:26:52 -0500
From: "Julie Z. Webb"
Subject: All are Discounting!!!!
Flight Update: This just in: American, Delta, United and Usair are all
slashing thier rates for Labor Day Saturday to Labor Day Sunday from all
cities to Boston!!! Get on the phone now and book your flight to Ashara's
Logan Airport in Boston.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:26:56 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: And a-one, and a-two....(JC)
True apologies and regrets over the multiple copies
of the LA Times thing you received. It was inappropriate,
and it was wrong. Even Buddy was upset. :)
I think that I finally got our SysAdmin's attention, and
we are looking at ways to prevent it happening again.
The personal messages that I got from some of you were
VERY gentle, considering!
Again, I'm sorry!
On to the JC...I got a catalog from an outfit called
"Artrock" (1-800-262-7249, www.artrock.com) which has
for sale:
"Here's an original CSNY concert poster from a show
at the Oakland Stadium. The lettering and design is by
Randy Tuten, but the artwork is by Joni Mitchell!...
The design may be the only example of JM's artwork
ever used on a concert poster. Signed by Randy Tuten.
23.25"x17.5" (740713) $125."
It looks pretty cool - nice caricatures of all the
CSNY guys...water..seagulls...
Hey Chilihead, what's this about sailing in the
Caribbean? I've done a bit o'that meself....
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:17:16 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: LA Times review
Here is the relevant paragraph from the LA Times review
of the Garden event:
Mitchell saved the inevitable "Woodstock" for her encore,
but aside from a handful of old chestnuts (including
"Coyote" and "Just Like This Train") led her excellent
quartet through a jazz-inflected set that showcased
songs from her upcoming album, "Taming The Tiger", before
concluding with a fine version of Marvin Gaye's "Trouble
Man."
By John Milward
Special to the Times.
##############################################################
Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:39:45 EDT
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Re: LA Times review - NJC
STOP!!!! PLEASE STOP!!!!
There, I feel better ... : )
Lori
in San Antonio, still blissed out by her own experience at A Day In The Garden
...
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:30:54 -0600
From: Les Irvin
Subject: Taming the tiger
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:22:56 -0400
From: JJM
As a buddhist practicioner, I was also a little curious about the title
and if Joni is talking about meditation. I'm glad someone brought it
up. There have also been other allusions to the process of meditation
as a means for dealing with the cravings of this existence which lead to
suffering. One I hear of often is "disciplining the monkey" or
"training the puppy". I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is what
she is referring to.
> Speaking of attachments brings to mind the thread about Taming the Tiger
> and
> its possible meaning . dskARTS@concentric.netV wrote that he had found a
> Buddhist book w/ this title. I might as well come out of the closet and say
> that I am a practicing Zen Buddhist but not a fanatic. When I first heard
> the
> title I thought "Hmm sounds like Joni's been meditating". Taming the Tiger
> is
> a common buddhist phrase which to means the mind is like a tiger following
> its
> desires and cravings; it is tamed by walking the 8 fold noble path and
> through meditation and mindfulness.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:00:57 -0500
From: Susanne Powers
Subject: Re: LA Times review - NJC
STOP THE INSANITY AND JOIN MY PROGRAM!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:26:18 -0700
From: Guy Brown
Subject: Sept 29th - A very good day for shopping
Besides TTT, that day will also see the Columbia/Sony release of the
extraordinary 32 year old recording of Bob Dylan and the Hawks 'The Albert
Hall Concert' (actually Manchester Free Trade Hall but that's another
story), and Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach 'Painting from Memory'. If
you throw in the 3rd album from Sheryl Crow (and I'll admit her first 2
slowly worked their way into my psyche) - we have a $(US)60 plus day to be
saving for here. GUY
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:12:37 -0700
From: "James A. Murray"
Subject: also released 9/29 Laura Love, Sheryl Crow, Melissa Ferrick, The Nields, and PJ Harvey. (LJC)
>The September issue of the ICE CD newsletter
>reports that Laura's new CD, "Shum Ticky", is scheduled for release on
>Mercury on 9/29! It'll be an expensive week for me... also out that day
>are the new releases from Sheryl Crow, Melissa Ferrick, The Nields, and PJ
>Harvey...
>
>--
>Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:54:28 +0100
From: catman
Subject: Re: Sept 29th - A very good day for shopping
$60 for 4 cd's? You's be lucky to get two here for that.
Guy Brown wrote:
> Besides TTT, that day will also see the Columbia/Sony release of the
> extraordinary 32 year old recording of Bob Dylan and the Hawks 'The Albert
> Hall Concert' (actually Manchester Free Trade Hall but that's another
> story), and Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach 'Painting from Memory'. If
> you throw in the 3rd album from Sheryl Crow (and I'll admit her first 2
> slowly worked their way into my psyche) - we have a $(US)60 plus day to be
> saving for here. GUY
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:00:00 -0600
From: Today in Joni History
Subject: Today in Joni History - August 20
1974: Joni performs the first of two nights at Temple University in
Ambler, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:29:43 -0600
From: Bounced Message
Subject: "Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury" (Re: Clinton) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0?= (NJC)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:32:46 +0200
From: "Winfried Hühn"
"The problem has never been our political logic
but the way we enact it
We can imagine a perfect society
but can't maintain a decent relationship
The failure found in the luxuries
not in the hardships
Hypocrisy is the Greatest Luxury
Raise the Double Standard"
- -------------------------------------
from the song and the album
"Hypocrisy is the Greatest Luxury"
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy (1992)
Food for thoughts?
Winfried
who thinks "Hipocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury" is one of the best protest
albums ever written, even though I disagree with many statements they
make. "Television, The Drug Of the Nation" and "Language of Violence"
are two great songs. Honest and angry lyrics throughout the entire
album. Great Poetry, and the proof that hip-hop indeed can be high art.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:04:27 -0400
From: Heather
Subject: Re: New England JOnifest
At 12:09 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Everybody Interested in Ashara's New England Jonifest,
> After squeezing this 'last minute' discounted tidbit out of the USAIR
>reservationist, I **just** found out that US AIR is running a special rate
>to Boston for only $93 on Labor Day Weekend. The catch is that you have to
>leave on Saturday after 12 noon and return Sunday. So I paid for my seat
>this morning. YOU MUST CALL TODAY OR TOMORROW, because the seats are
>limited. (Im not sure if this special is for Pittsburgh/Boston only, but it
>is worth looking into.)
EXCELLENT WORK JULIE!!
Come on, everyone, give it some serious thought. In addition to my
previously listed "door prizes" there will also be a HDCD of _______ by
Joni Mitchell. Sorry :) you gotta show up to find out!
Heather
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:08:02 -0500
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: Re: LA Times review - NJC
Oh, duh! That was the name I was thinking of...
At 1:12 PM -0400 8/19/98, wrote:
>Is Susanne Powers related to Susan Powter? ; )
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:21:10 -0600
From: Bounced Message
Subject: NJC - New Me'Shell NdegeOcello discussion list
From: Michael Yarbrough
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:15:10 -0400
Thanks to the advice and encouragement of our illustrious Les, I have
decided to start a discussion list for fans of Me'Shell NdegeOcello. I'd
love to see some of you there, so if I've converted you to Me'Shell
fandom or you're just an interested bystander, send a message to
majordomo@smoe.org with
"su.bscribe god-shiva"
(without the quotes and the period after the u)
in the BODY of the message.
The list is named God-Shiva after one of Me'Shell's songs, which
includes the lyric "God Shiva is imminent love, transcendent reality."
A lot of times that's how I feel about Me'Shell's music, so that's the
name of the list.
Hope to see you there, and thanks again to Les!
- --Michael
"We are in truth the truth we seek."
- --Me'Shell NdegeOcello, "God Shiva"
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Dollinger
Subject: trio (NJC)
This just in at AoL:
Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt's second set of Trio
recordings, entitled I Feel the Blues Movin' In, is tentatively scheduled for
release in November on Asylum. The tracks were recorded in 1994, around the
same time as Ronstadt's Feels Like Home. The album should contain
version's of
Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush" and Kiernan Kane's "When We're Gone." The
first Trio album,
released in 1987, has sold 1.8 million copies. Harris and Ronstadt are also
considering recording an album of duets sometime next year..... ICE MAGAZINE
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:55:08 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
Subject: Re: trio (NJC)
Bill Dollinger wrote:
Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt's second set of Trio
> recordings, entitled I Feel the Blues Movin' In, is tentatively scheduled for
> release in November on Asylum.
Great news. Trio has always been one of my favorites.
np: Dolly - Rainbow
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:10:39 -0400
From: Tortorici@exchange.conference-board.org
Subject: earlier joni from mtv online
8.14.98 10:00 EDT
Joni Mitchell Remembers The Time She Never Got
To
Woodstock
Joni Mitchell
400k QuickTime
Ticket sales for this weekend's Day in the
Garden festival, the
three-day commemoration of the 1969 Woodstock
festival
being held in Bethel, New York, don't appear to
be coming up
roses.
Originally set at $69.98 for the weekend, ticket
prices have
been slashed to $35 for the Friday and Saturday
shows, and
$25 for the alterna-laden Sunday concert. Don
Henley and
Stevie Nicks headline Friday, Joni Mitchell and
Pete
Townshend share the honors Saturday, while the
Goo Goo
Dolls and Third Eye Blind are set for Sunday.
For Joni Mitchell, the singer-songwriter perhaps
most
influential on the "Lilith" generation of female
artists, the concert
will mark the first time she has ever performed
in the place she
immortalized three decades ago in her classic
paean to the
show, "Woodstock," which she wrote even though
she never
made it to the festival.
Her friends in Crosby, Stills & Nash, who scored
a hit with
their version of Mitchell's "Woodstock", did get
out to
Yasgur's Farm, and told her about it upon their
return.
"They showed up raving about it," Mitchell told
MTV News,
"which was really like salt in the wound. When I
see the clips
[from 'Woodstock'], I can almost see myself
[crying] -- on
camera and all that. Cause to be young then and
to have
missed that, even though it was that close, that
was
everything to me." [400k QuickTime]
"But I guess it was meant for a reason," she
continued, "and
because I couldn't go, [Woodstock] dominated my
mind. I
watched everything on TV, I just sat in front of
the TV
and wrote most of the song in the first few days
[400k
QuickTime] of the festival, and it was done by
Sunday night."
According to a report in "Performance" magazine,
Mitchell and
Nicks will each take home $450,000 for their
work, while
Henley and Townshend are each fetching $550,000.
For more on Mitchell check out the MTV News
Gallery.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Gross
Subject: NJC - NYC Jmdlers only need read
Hi Everbody
On my way home from the Garden on Sunday, I saw my niece, who is getting her
MBA and already has a job lined up in NYC. She's looking for a place to live
and writes:
<>
If any you NY Jmdlers knows of anything that meets Susan's criteria, I would
be very appreciative. Email me at briangross@rocketmail.com and I'll hook you
up with her.
Thanks everyone.
Brian
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No folks above
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:37:56 EDT
From: KerriLynn@aol.com
Subject: A BRIEF THANX!!
JUST A NOTE TO ALL ON THE LIST, THANK YOU FOR POSTING ALL THE INFO ABOUT 'THE
GARDEN', AND ALL THE OTHER JUICY GOOD STUFF YOU HAVE TO SAY!!! I ACTUALLY
LIVE ONLY A HALF HOUR FROM WHERE THE SITE IS, BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO GO, (VERY
SAD) I'VE BEEN A SUBSCRIBER FOR SOME TIME NOW AND JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH
I REALLY ENJOY THE LIST....
AGAIN,
THANKS!!!
CANT WAIT TILL TTT!!!!!
- -- KERRI
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:38:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Dollinger
Subject: C'mon Get Happy -- Joni and The Partridge Family
Okay folks, I recently stumbled upon some information that
will take up space in my brain cells for the rest of my life
(whether I want it there or not). -- It involves a connection between
our SIQUOMB and that fabricated sitcom family band of the
seventies, The Partridge Family. Actually there are two
connections that I discovered. Not to make it easy, I threw in
some red herrings and made the following list. So C'mon Get Happy
and see if you can pick the two bonafide true life facts out
of the other 8 which are figments of my overactive imagination:
1. The Partridge Family songs are based on dozens of open tunings.
2. Actress Susan Dey linked romantically to bass legend Jaco Pastorius.
3. Actor David Cassidy was actually the first choice by Mingus to record
final album.
4. Percussionist Bobbye Hall featured on Don Juan's Reckless Daughter was
the child actress who portrayed tamborine-prodigy Tracy Partridge.
5. Actor David Cassidy linked romantically to model Kilauren Gibb.
6. L.A. Express musicians Larry Carlton and Max Bennett were
the real musicians on all of the Partridge Family recordings.
7. Actress Shirley Jones linked romantically to blues legend Furry Lewis.
8. Cartoon birds on Partridge Family opening credits designed by
Joni art director Robbie Cavalana, inspired by Ladies Of The Canyon artwork.
9. Joni photographer Henry Diltz is also official photographer for
his best friend David Cassidy.
10. Original working title of "I Think I Love You" was
"I Think I Understand You."
Discuss....
- -Bill
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:14:18 +0200 (CEST)
From: cco@xs4all.nl
Subject: Joni songs at the Vondelpark
For JMDL-members in The Netherlands:
Thursday evening Lydia van Dam will sing Joni Mitchell songs at the
Vondelpark in Amsterdam (at 8 p.m.). It's a free concert.
Monica
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:22:01 +0200 (CEST)
From: cco@xs4all.nl
Subject: Vondelpark
I forgot to mention that the concert by Lydia van Dam at the Vondelpark in
Amsterdam will be TOMORROW evening (20th of August).
Monica
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:37:06 -0400
From: "Donald Fluke"
Subject: Garden Report
Finally caught up on all the digests.
I can't find any more words to describe Joni's performance, than has already
been said. She did give me that warm, fuzzy feeling.
I would just like to add some impressions that happened to me.
As the gates opened, my backpack was searched, and my camera overlooked, I
ran down the pasture at Yasgur's to stake out our front row area. All the
while running down that hillside, I was so excited, tears rolling down my
cheeks, that soon it was going to happen.
I am just so proud and enthused to be a part of the JMDL. What a wonderful,
friendly, sincere bunch you all are. I hope Joni will make these moments
happen again and again.
When Lou Reed left the stage, the excitement in the crowd grew. Joni is
next. Security tightened. Several people behind me had flowers for Joni,
but security would not allow us to give them to her. At one point one the
the security people said it was ok to give them to her. But...in the end it
was not permitted. Sue Mc. tried also but was refused.
Joni came out and the crowd loved her. She really was received well. The
JMDL's enthusiasm leached into the crowd around us.
As I changed the film in my camera, ready to shoot my next roll, is when
Joni pulled out her camera, panned the crowd and photographed the JMDL'ers.
Yes, Joni took our picture as we all stood behind Sue's banner. From my
good vantage point Joni recognized us and was proud of us. She knows she
can count on us, and I believe she looks for us when she performs. We did
cheer the loudest.
Some of us left after Joni to meet back at the RV. Probably a dozen people
stopped at the RV to ask questions. Some were lurkers on the list, others
were former listers, some knew of us, others had no idea, but the
best-------- One guy said that he had followed the list for a while, and he
had been able to sneak a video camera into the Garden. He taped some of
Joni's performance. I am trying to obtain a copy of this.
Looks like we may have our next Video Tree !!!
There may also be a tape tree of this show. Who knows?
keep you updated on the video
don back in ft lauderdale
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:57:12 -0500
From: Mark Domyancich
Subject: The Ideal JMDL (NJC)
Now, if everyone had their way, there would be separate lists for
everyone's personality.
1. The straight, married JMDL
2. The straight, single JMDL
3. The gay, togethered JMDL
4. The gay, single JMDL
5. The JMDL for those over 18
6. The JMDL for those under 18 (All 3 of us! Yea!) :)
7. The JMDL for whining people
8. The JMDL for considerate people
9. The JMDL for in-your-face/back-talk/rude/multiple-diseased people
10. The JMDL for recluses
11. The JMDL for those who have been here since '96 and have never posted
(That would be a VERY active list!)
But I think this JMDL is the greatest one of them all!!!
Yours truly,
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:10:05 -0400
From: "Wong, Kai"
Subject: Woodstock review on EW online
Last Saturday, August 14, as Pete
Townshend stood in a media tent on the
onetime alfalfa field in Bethel, New York,
where the 1969 Woodstock Festival was
held, he remembered the original event
without a trace of dewy-eyed nostalgia:
"Everything other than the music,
everything other than the actual gathering
of people, turned out to be slightly flawed.
There was suffering, difficulty and pain."
He later added, "I wasn't using acid or
smoking pot at the time. That was part of
my dislocation from the festival. I suppose
I sat there and sneered at everybody,
really. I couldn't get into it."
Townshend seemed to be in a better
frame of mind at the August 14-16 event
billed as A Day in the Garden. Not only did
he wrap up Saturday's 10-hour concert
(which included Donovan, Lou Reed, and
Joni Mitchell) with a banter-filled set of
both solo and Who hits (such as "Behind
Blue Eyes"), but he seemed truly upbeat
about the experience. "The very fact that
someone has bought this bit of land and
wants there to be music here, it tells you a
lot about what really was important about
the original occasion," Townshend said,
referring to cable-TV mogul Alan Gerry,
who bought the 2,000-acre farmland with
plans for annual summer concerts and a
theme park. "What this is doing is
honoring what was meant to happen back
then, picking up the pieces."
The 20,000 or so adults and children who
dotted the hillside on Saturday retained
some pieces of the past. As booming
bass notes shook the grass underfoot,
scruffy hippies in tie-dye danced and
puffed on hash pipes, and local merchants
sold their handicrafts. But there was a
new contingent too. Surveying the scene
from portable lounge chairs, middle-aged
concertgoers adjusted their pot bellies and
sagging halter tops or hopped up to buy a
$4.50 cappuccino from the concession
stand. "If you don't have enough money,"
an emcee anounced between sets,
"there's an ATM machine up on the side."
Though there were relatively few veterans
of the original Woodstock among the
28,000 or so younger viewers who came
to see Dishwalla, Joan Osborne, and
Third Eye Blind on Sunday, the older
performers on the two preceding days
were clearly catering to adults with active
musical memories. Donovan sang
"Atlantis," "Hurdy Gurdy Man" and other
old-time hits; Richie Havens played "Here
Comes the Sun" and "Freedom," and had
his guitarist recreate the Hendrix version
of the "Star Spangled Banner"; and Lou
Reed (who didn't perform at the original
festival) opened with the classics "Sweet
Jane" and "Vicious" before moving onto
later compositions. Though Joni Mitchell
performed comparatively recent songs,
many of them seemed to comment on the
social changes since the last Woodstock
("Black Crow" about avarice; "Slouching
Towards Bethlehem" about millennial
doom).
Called back for an encore, Mitchell
admitted, "Well, I can't leave here without
playing the theme song." But before
performing "Woodstock," which she wrote
without actually attending the first festival,
she mentioned a few of the changes
between now and then. "One of the hippie
values I still adhere to is the Rainbow
Coalition," she said. "But free love? We
know there's no such thing now. Pay later,
always."
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