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JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 11 1998 Volume 03 : Number 298
The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available
now. Go to for all the details.
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The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank
message to for all the details.
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Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things
Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered -
to
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And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee.
Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to
for more info.
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The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at
and contains the latest news, a detailed bio,
Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more.
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The JMDL website can be found at and contains
Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives,
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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News [Wally Breese ]
Re: Where were you in Aug. '69 [Skin Deep ]
Re: Going to the Garden?/Where were you in August 1969? [catman ]
Scruggs/'69 [Steve Dulson ]
Re: Going to the Garden?/Where were you in August 1969? [Bounced Message ]
NJC looking for Jason Long [Michael Yarbrough ]
Van & Lucinda join Dylan (no JM) ["Eric G. Postel" ]
I Got My MOJO ["Kakki" ]
Garden Tickets [LRFye@aol.com]
Re: JMDL Digest V3 #297 ["Nixon" ]
NJC Music Stuff & NewEngland JoniFest [Heather ]
August of '69 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ]
Re: JMDL Digest V3 #284 [Michael Paz ]
Dennis Quaid (NJC) [Michael Paz ]
YES (NJC) [Michael Paz ]
aug 69 [Bounced Message ]
Mojo detail [Bolvangar@aol.com]
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 98 02:03:28 -0700
From: Wally Breese
Subject: News
Hi everybody,
I'm launching two pages on the Website today. First up, there's a
page about a new book called "Musicians and the Internet," which is part
of the Ultimate Beginner Tech Start Series, a series of books that
introduces readers to the various aspects of music technology. It
includes a chapter that features 4 screens from the JMHP! I'm honored to
say that there are only two musician Websites featured- Chick Corea's and
Joni's. (BTW, the link to our own Ken Slarty's Midi page is seen in a
shot of the JMHP's "Sounds" page.) You can order a copy of "Musicians and
the Internet" through an 800 number, and you can also enter a contest to
win 1 of 25 free copies of the book.
Follow the link below:
"MashBook98.html"
Next up is the page I've designed for the upcoming reviews of Joni's
"A Day In The Garden" concert sent in by members of the Joni Mitchell
Internet Community (That's you folks!). As I mentioned in an earlier
message, Sue McNamara is attending the event as the official homepage
reporter and her enthusiastic pre-tour essay is now up, along with
another amazing illustration from Ken Corral, done at my request. Thanks
to both of you!
Follow the link below:
"OnTheRoadWoodstock98.html"
"People" magazine has a special edition just out on newstands
entitled "Unforgettable Women of the Century." It's a 160 page, glossy
issue which divides over 100 subjects into categories such as "Icons,"
"Divas," "Funny Ladies," "Creators" and so on. Joni is featured in the
"Creators" chapter, along with Maya Angelou, Grandma Moses, Gertrude
Stein and other creative iconoclasts. The JM section includes two
beautiful photographs- one small black & white shot of Joni from 1968,
and a larger color shot from 1994. Though there are a few minor errors in
their biographical info, it's still exciting to have Joni listed among
the "Unforgettable Women of the Century." She certainly deserves her
position there.
Later,
Wally
The Joni Mitchell Homepage
http://www.JoniMitchell.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:47:06 -0700
From: Skin Deep
Subject: Re: Where were you in Aug. '69
Aug, '69 I was on a small island in Greece off the coast of Turkey
called Kos. That June I had gotten a notice that my Draft status had
been changed from a "Still in School" to a "1A US Prime" as I had not
enrolled in summer school. I took every cent I had and bought a one way
ticket from San Francisco to New York and another ticket one way for
$200, on Icelantic Air out of the country. If they wanted me they could
come and get me. I remember my parents telling me how the service would
be good for me.
I stayed at the southern part of the island where no one spoke english.
The whole time I was there, three months, I met three english speaking
tourist. One of them was an American guy who was from my home town, had
dated my next door neighbor sister and took a couple of pictures of me
back to my mom. Now that's a small world!
Needless to say I did not hear about Woodstock until I left that little
piece of paradise and got back into the mainstream, Istanbul.
I did get to see Ms Mitchell at the Isle of Wight, but that's another
story.
To all going to The Farm, Have a Good Time and
Stay On The Bus.
For now, Fred Walzenfree
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:11:59 +0100
From: catman
Subject: Re: Going to the Garden?/Where were you in August 1969?
I was 11 and living in Singapore. I had never heard of Woodstock or Joni or
anyone else! I wasn't into music then. I remember hearing constantly how the
Stones were devils in disguise.
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:24:30 -0700
From: "Kakki"
Subject: Fw: this is a call (njc)
From Mariana ~
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> From: mariana mcconnell
> Subject: this is a call
> Date: Monday, August 10, 1998 8:06 AM
>
>
> itīs been a week or so, hasnīt it? hey, guess who iīm sitting next to
> in the computer room right now...Dave Grohl! well, not really, itīs
> actually drew but he looks alot like dave. heīs the guy from the foo
> fighters...
> so anyway, las fresas have caught the big one back to brentwood...and
> you know, i kind of miss them. we had a little party on friday and i
> played the guitar. they had me play "building a mystery" about 6 times.
> one told me i have a voice exactly like sarah mclachlan which is one of
> the best compliments iīve ever gotten on my singing! a favorite was "ice
> cream" (sherrieīs favorite) and we translated the chorus into espaņol
> (doncha love these spanish keyboards...they give you the little n with
> the booger over it). "esta muy lejos el camino abajo".
> i went to taxco on sunday which was really no big deal. itīs a
> little silver mining town. i got some dresses and a ring but nothing i
> couldnīt have gotten in curenavaca, yīknow? i made sort of friends
> though with some people and thatīs okay. hmm...thereīs the bell, one
> hour until school starts.
> so my friends have all gotten their scheduals for next year, or so i
> hear from e-mail. itīs depressing, really. 11th grade, yuck yuck. iīm
> sort of looking forward to it, because iīm a little stronger this year
> and sort of not, mainly because of you-know-who. oh well, i canīt let
> him run my life. he canīt even run his own. iīll just focus on whatīs
> important to me and get through as best as possible, because thatīs all
> i can do.sort of like the foo fighters song: "iīll never tell you the
> secrets iīm holding/i know these things must bore you/i can find another
> way..."
> 2 more weeks here and then california iīm coming home/i felt like
> this on my way home.
>
> see ya
> mariana in mexico
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:24:51 -0700
From: Steve Dulson
Subject: Scruggs/'69
Deb quoted:
>an elegiac take on Joni Mitchell's ``Both Sides Now'' - are
>among the highlights of this star-studded effort.
If that's the version on the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's "Will The
Circle Be Unbroken", it's terrific.
Oh, yeah, August '69 - I'd just turned 19. Had seen the ads for
Woodstock, but was too pathetically inept at life to get it
together to go. I did manage to make a trip with three
friends up to the next year's Big Sur Folk Festival, though.
I like to think I'm better at life these days, but sometimes I
wonder!?!
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Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com
"The Tinker's Own"
http://members.aol.com/tinkersown/home.html
"Southern California Dulcimer Heritage"
http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:24:11 -0600
From: Bounced Message
Subject: Re: Going to the Garden?/Where were you in August 1969?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:33:01 -0400
From: Jerry Notaro
I was 19 and very excited about going to my first big music festival
called Woodstock. I was working between my freshman and sophmore years
in college mowing lawns in a state park, and making money for the trip.
I had already paid for my ticket, which were not needed as it turned
out. I had a bad accident where my foot slipped under a mower on a wet
hill and cut two toes very badly. I was hospitalized and put on crutches
and had to be under a doctor's care all summer, mostly laying up. I
worked hard at physical therapy because I wanted to go to Woodstock so
badly. My parents were not going to let me go on crutches. They were
much wiser than I. I put up such a fuss that I went off with my friends
in a VW bus and headed to Max's farm. We got there a day early and there
were about 7000 people there. We had no idea of what was to come. We did
acid that day by the "hippie" pond, passed out, woke up sunburned and
saw many, many thousands pouring in. We had not much food becuase we
thought we could kust drive into town for provisions as needed. Yeah,
right. I was very uncomfortable on those crutches, but I wouldn't have
traded the experience for anything. I was sure Joni would be there
because David Crosby was to sing. No such luck. CS&N were horribly off
key and had to be dubbed for the movie. Joan B. was a miracle. The rain
sucked no matter what anyone says, and I was very stoned for 90% of the
time. Jimi Hendrix was a revelation, and I even like Melanie, which most
of the crowd did not. Have funs guys. I'm sure it will be great.
Jerry
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:25:53 -0400
From: Michael Yarbrough
Subject: NJC looking for Jason Long
Sorry for the bandwidth--
Jason Long, your mail is getting bounced back to me. If you're out
there, could you email me privately please? Thanks...
- --Michael
mwyarbro@zzapp.org
NP: 100 Flowers, _100 Years of Pulchritude_
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:08:00 -0400
From: "Eric G. Postel"
Subject: Van & Lucinda join Dylan (no JM)
For those interested:
The West Coast Bob Dylan tour has been changed!
Van Morrison has been added to all shows **after** Puyallup, Washington.
The new tour is as follows:
September
22: Puyallup State Fair, Puyallup, Washington (Not with Van)
The following are with Van Morrison:
23: Rose Garden Arena, Portland, Oregon
24:Mac Court, Eugene, Oregon
25:Concord Pavilion, Concord, California
26: Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mt. View, California
27: Reno Hilton Amphteater, Reno, Nevada
Please note that there are price changes involved with the addition of
Van Morrison and that Lucinda Williams will be opening all shows with
the exception of Reno.
Please check the following web page after 12 noon California time on
August 10th:
http://www.well.com/user/smarcus/mailorder.html
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:39:00 -0600
From: Today in Joni History
Subject: Today in Joni History - August 11
1973: From Rolling Stone's Random Notes page: "It was quite a treat for the
fortunate few who squeezed in: Joni, Neil Young, and the Eagles performed
two shows tonight and tomorrow night at the Topanga Canyon Corral, a tiny
club in the L.A. canyon. Admission was $4, all for the benefit of an
anti-condominium movement in Topanga."
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Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to
JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list.
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:47:53 -0700
From: "Kakki"
Subject: I Got My MOJO
Finally, finally, after repeated trips to the local record stores I was able to
pick up the August MOJO at Tower in Hollywood Friday night and then proceeded
to stay up half the night reading it. The article on Joni is so wonderful.
Also loved the articles on Gene
Clark - the best I've ever read - and Dr. John. What a great publication. A
few interesting items found elsewhere in the magazine - The Brian Blade
Fellowship is listed as No. 1 on the Jazz chart on page 152, and there is a
great web site for songbooks on page 55, including "The Best of Joni Mitchell"
and "The Nick Drake Song Collection" Try http://www.musicsales.co.uk
Kakki
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 18:16:43 EDT
From: LRFye@aol.com
Subject: Garden Tickets
Hi All,
Anyone thinking about making a last minute decision to attend Joni's show on
Saturday? I have two extra tickets ...
Sorry to hear you're not going, Marsha ... we'll have a shot for you ...
Lori
in San Antonio
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:22:02 +0200
From: "Nixon"
Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #297
I was eleven, living in the sticks in England, but the summer of '69 was the
happiest of my entire life. I'd heard about Woodstock and the whole hippy
thing, and it all seemed so wonderful. I couldn't wait to grow up, grow my
hair down my back and be a hippy and join everyone in peace and love in
listening to music made by 'gentle people' from San Francisco.
Adolescence soon crushed these hopes; In England in the early seventies, all
my teenage generation grew up into skinheads who spent their Saturday nights
kicking in the heads of other skinheads from neighbouring towns.
I was devastated, traumatised, like, what happened man? Everybody had shaved
off their hair and was acting violent!
I think I opted out of adult life at that point, after it began to seem
clear that FlowerPower would not be making any comebacks in the immediate
future.
Fashion is a strange creature.
Tube
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:10:09 -0400
From: Heather
Subject: NJC Music Stuff & NewEngland JoniFest
Hi everyone,
While up in Ottawa I went into a Sheet Music & Music Book store. They have
the "Misses" songbook and CMIARS songbook. Also, sheet music of Both Sides
Now. They are GRANATA MUSIC, 175 Sparks St. Ottawa, Ontario K1P 5B9.
(613)234-7666. They have quite a collection of other stuff too.
I picked up another Joni songbook that will be given away as a "door
prize", so to speak, at the NewEngland JoniFest. Nope. I'm not telling.
You'll have to come and find out! There will be other Joni "stuff" to be
given away also.
I was disappointed to find out that there are only about 10 definites for
the New England party :-( What's up!?
If you are on the fence trying to decide on weather to come or not, I'm
here to push you over to the side that gets you to the NewEngland JoniFest.
Soooooooo come on JMDLers!!! Come on over to Ashara's for one hell of a
good time celebrating Joni's music and upcoming TTT release!!!!!
The folks that attended Julies' Pittsburgh JoniFest had a blast! We are
looking to recreate that same great experience.
Come on, now ... if there is any way that you can make it - PLEASE COME!!!!!
Heather
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:50:10 -0400
From: "Jim L'Hommedieu"
Subject: August of '69
In August of 1969, I was 14 and in between freshman and sophomore year
in high school. I was a morning paperboy, buying posters, reading
Rolling Stone magazine about why Dylan was an Artist and the Monkees
were not Artists. I was buying great late 60s music like Sly and the
Family Stone.
- --
All the best,
Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! **
"Thank ewe
Falletin me
Be mice elf
agin."
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 21:44:35 -0500
From: Michael Paz
Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V3 #284
Paul I Wrote:
" I'm glad you brought that up. I was wondering about that myself.
Anyone
> know what kind of Edith Piaf recordings are available these days?"
Paul-
Tower here in N.O has an extensive list of Edith Piaf available here
in New Orleans. If you like I can get a print out and fax it to you or
something. They have a couple of big multi-disc collections as well. As
you might know, I am a huge Tower Records fan, and I don't mind plugging
them shamelessly, or sending them business.
Peace,
Michael
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 22:10:38 -0500
From: Michael Paz
Subject: Dennis Quaid (NJC)
Julie wrote:
"Dennis Quaid
beats Brian Keith, hands down, in the hunk department and the twins are
excellent actresses."
Julie-
Glad to hear that you enjoyed The Parent Trap, I am supporting
Dennis Quaid in anyway I can. I have enjoyed his acting since Breaking
Away (which I thought was a brilliant film). Dennis is a very special
person to my family now, for he was mainly responsible for the
construction (the main financial benefactor) of a clinic in San Pedro
Sula, Honduras that is dedicated to the memory of my late mother, Ruth
Paz. La Clinica Ruth Paz was inaugurated in January of this year and has
been open since September of 97. We have a staff of one doctor, one
dentist, one nurse, one administrator, and two helpers on the payroll.
The clinic is there to assist the poor that require medical attention,
if they can pay or not. The people have been coming from all over
Honduras to go to this clinic. While I was there last week they told me
of a man who rode 8 hours on a bus just to come to our clinic. I was so
blown away and so proud at what has been accomplished.
My mom worked with disabled and sick children for over 30 years and
was directly responsible (in life) to help over 20,000 children. We have
so many plans for the future which include; a burn unit, a cardiac unit
for children, and a lab on site at the clinic. My sister has been
overseeing the administration of the clinic and raising funds for the
Ruth Paz Foundation in Honduras. I have been asked to sit on the Board
of Directors for a local foundation here in New Orleans called
International Hospital For Children (the ones who connected my mom to
Dennis) and I am running the Ruth Paz Foundation of Louisiana, to raise
funds here in New Orleans (where over 90,000 Hondurans live). While I
was home I ran into an old friend who is going to work on our web page,
so I will keep you guys informed. I also met a man who sat next to me on
the way back, who is semi retired and well off, who is going to help us
out with setting up some programs within our system. I ran into him in a
restaurant two days later so I guess God wants me to work with him. Just
something I wanted to share with you guys.
Peace,
Michael
NP-Love Has Many Faces (my fave-O-rite song rite now)
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:52:58 -0500
From: Michael Paz
Subject: YES (NJC)
Craig wrote:
"Just returned home from the Yes Concert at the Backyard in Austin."
Craig-
I am jealous. I really wanted to see this tour. I've only seen them
close to 20 times. One of my fave bands of all time. I saw them last
Nov. in Houston in a small venue and it was fab. They were suppose to
play here in N.O., but could not work out the promoter BS (in a hall
that only seats a couple thousand too). Oh well! Glad there is other
Joniphiles out there that dig Yes as well.
Peace,
Michael
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:06:46 -0600
From: Bounced Message
Subject: aug 69
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:33:57 -0700
From: Michael Heath
It was hot hot hot in toronto...people were talking about this event on
some farm in NY...
everybody in the musical universe was supposed to be there. I was
hanging around the coffee houses and writing dark, existential, self
conscious songs about the ruin of mankind and the pain of being alive in
a time that didn't seem to fit . I was in no mood to celebrate anything
except maybe my own paranoia about the richard nixons and general
nazification of america... lots of LSD and painting abstractly on the
roof of an abandoned warehouse near the waterfront railway tracks at
dawn... sleeping bags, guitars,backpacks,hippies,
weird artists and actors,political types, all trying to auger the new
world rushing toward us
like some demon screaming over the horizon, full of joy, promise and
fear. some of us struck out east for the farm to celebrate, the rest
of us stayed to birth the future from our
secret rooftop atlier.
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:23:22 EDT
From: Bolvangar@aol.com
Subject: Mojo detail
Hello all,
The August Mojo has made it out here (to the world-famous Tattered Cover
bookstore, for those in the Denver area). I agree the pictures are great --
love the one with Bjork and the one of her in the studio in the mid-'70s.
Did anyone else notice, in the same issue, the "Songs about Chelsea" sidebar
accompanying the article about Chelsea (the place), listing the Joni song as
"One Chelsea Morning"? (?!)
Last Friday I went to Fort Collins, about an hour north of here, to visit my
best friend from high school; and drove back across the prairie, late that
night, with a brilliant full moon in the sky, listening to _Hejira_. I usually
sing along, but after the first couple of songs I fell silent.
- --David
NP: Patti Smith, _Horses_ ("I didn't hear them/I didn't see/I let my eyes rise
to the big tower clock/and I heard those bells chiming in my heart....")
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