From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #284 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, July 30 1998 Volume 03 : Number 284 TapeTree 7 is in the sign-up phase for leaves. Go to to sign up ------- The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni, Yoni, Zoni [DSKittrell ] Re: Sharon Revisited ["Deb Messling" ] Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA ["Ben Mulvey" ] Italians sing Chelsea Mrng. SJC ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: FW: Joni Dementia (going NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Fahey's AMERICA, Restored (NJC) [simon@icu.com] Fred Simon ~ Solo Piano Album (NJC) [simon@icu.com] Re: Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA ["Don Rowe" ] edith and the soundrack [Bill Dollinger ] Re: Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA [Michael Heath ] Joni LP Mix Tape Program ["Don Rowe" ] Re: Joni, Kate, Patti, Nico and Marianne are 'New Hippie' icons apparently.... [jan gyn ] yoni (most definitely NJC) [Seanapper@aol.com] Mass extinction was "Fave Lyrics & Misc." (NJC) ["James A. Murray" ] NP: Gillian Welch (NJC) [simon@icu.com] STARART BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE! ["Kakki" ] BowieNet ["Peter Holmstedt" ] RE: STARART BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE! [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein] Re: BowieNet [Linda Brady ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 03:28:00 -0400 From: DSKittrell Subject: Re: Joni, Yoni, Zoni > >the term "Joni" which apparently shows up rather frequently > >in the Kama Sutra and is translated as "vagina". > >:) > > > >cul > > You know, I always found this so very funny! But I think the word is Yoni, > with a "y". > WallyK And then there's Zoni, the name Georgia O'Keefe called Joni (until Joni called herself that). This is from a bio of O'Keefe by J.Hogrefe: But because Mitchell wanted to sleep late and O'Keefe arose at dawn, the singer eventually moved to [Juan] Hamilton's house. "Then -- let's just say the trials continued. I would go over to visit her if she was in her studio bedroom. And I'd be standing at the screen door and she'd say, 'Zoni, is that you?' She called me Zoni. I'd just say, 'It's Zoni here,' after a while. But once I called myself Zoni she stopped. She was very much a woman, and she was terribly fond of Juan. It was interesting to see that a woman at ninety-one is very much a woman. There was a sense of competition in that he liked my music and he liked her art. And if that was a threat to her on any level, then by god, she wasn't going to make it easy for me. But over a few days I got kind of anesthetized about the stuff and found my humor about it and played into it. And I became fond of her as craggy as she was." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:05:31 +0000 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Re: Sharon Revisited In BMI, or ASCAP (I forget which), the song is listed as "Song for Sharon Bell." That database has been changed considerably. It used to include tons of tantalizing titles we've never heard (except maybe Wally and Simon!). Now they're all gone. > I used to think it was Laura Nyro she was addressing here but I believe > somebody said it was a woman named Sharon Bell. A friend of Joni's? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 03:10:31 PDT From: "Ben Mulvey" Subject: Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA "I did some good writing, I think, on cocaine - Song For Sharon (Hejira), but it kills your heart, takes all your energy, puts it up in your brain and gives you the arrogance that, you know, ruined Jaco Pastorius" Its kind of wierd hearing Joni say that about Jaco Pastorius. I smoked some grass for the first time in ages recently, and really got into Herjira for the first time listening to it - I think because of the grass. I allways ranked BLUEas my favourite album - but after a few months on the JDML - it really comes accross that most people think Herjira is her best - so it was on my mind to give it more time. Anyway, I really noticed Jaco Pastorius's bass playing for the first time, when i was that little bit stoned - now I've been listening to Herjira a lot more (though not smoking grass !) and I think its his palying that gives it that hypnotic, other-worldly feeling. Its really captured me, I don't know how to describe it - Its like his playing is a counterpoint to the desolation and emptiness Joni expresses in her lyrics. I want to go on a t this point and use words like "wavelike" and "knowing" to describe his playing - but I'm afraid I'm going to end up sounding like I'm stoned now ! Suffice to say that the interaction of the bass and Joni's lyrices is what sends a shiver up my spine & turns my head with Herjira. As his playing contributes so much too that album - I wonder how much it was his original creativity or how much he was being directed by Joni ? If it was mainly his own maybe he deserves more credit - or does Joni compoise the whole bass section herself - then explain it to someone and just get them to play it? Anybody know ? And also as everyone seems to think Herjira maybe a creative peak for Joni - what exactly is it about that album ?? Ben ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:42:55 +0100 From: "Twomey" Subject: Joni, Kate, Patti, Nico and Marianne are 'New Hippie' icons apparently.... Hi all, Further to fashion indications that Joni is influencing this year's styles, this article excerpt was posted to the Kate mailing list. Joni should start collecting fashion royalties now! My girlfriend told me that a fashio mag she's just reading now also features this hippie chic look as part of the "autumn" range of looks. This is all alien to me of course, I prefer non-labels and second-hand gear, but there ya go... > According to August's Zest magazine ("for minds as well as bodies"), the > next fashion trend will be 'hippie chic' > "Do you prefer a holistic rather than a high-tech approach to health and > beauty ? And do you believe that nature holds the cures to your physical, > mental and spiritual woes ? If the answer is yes, you're probably a New > Hippie." > About the 90s look they say, > " . . . while at Helen David, models wore patchwork dresses and scarves, > psychedelic velvet skirts, embroidered sheepskin coats and knee-length > boots, and sashayed down the catwalk to vintage Fleetwood Mac, Patti Smith, > Nico and Kate Bush.", with a small picture of TKI along side. > Later they list and picture the 'Hippie Heroines' who are Joni Mitchell, > Marianne Faithfull, Patti Smith and Kate Bush. > And also girls (and boys) if you want to look like the TKI/LH era Kate, now > you can as, > "Crimped hair has been attempting to make a comeback for several seasons > but this Autumn it looks like we might actually be reaching for those > crimping irons . . . " and " . . as for make-up, heavily kohled eyes are in > . . ." Sean :-) Kate Bush News & Information http://www.clubi.ie/twomey/katebush.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:26:50 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Re: Joni & Heroin? (NOT) someone wrote and assumed: > a little coke? big deal! who didn't? gazzillion's of us who had/have no desire to alter our brain chemistry to that extent...have worked in health care and watched folks DIE from extracts of the coca leaf Marsha, prefers Pepsi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:39:55 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Italians sing Chelsea Mrng. SJC Maybe it's the synchronicity of Ashara coming back from Tuscany, but all things Italian have been on my mind lately. Last night we spent an evening with 30 Italian surgical nurses from Palermo Sicily who are in Pittsburgh for the summer to observe transplant surgery techniques. They were all singing and partying on my porch because Monica, our grad student/nanny has been their summer English teacher, and Monica hosted a pizza party here. And these suntanned Sicilian men and women were gorgeous....1/2 of them were men as there are more male surgical nurses who dominate the profession in Italy...(Hmmmmm, perhaps being hospitalized in Italy can't seem that bad of an experience.) Most of them were under 40 years of age. As a group, they were lean, fashionable and outgoing. We had the keyboard and guitar on the porch, and what struck me was how free ALL of THEM were to sing out with such unity, annimation and gusto. They sang Italian rock songs and folk songs for hours and got up and danced too! And somehow they knew all the lyrics to all the songs. All of these people smoked up a storm as it is very fashionable in Europe, which was funny for me to see these fine, health care professionals smoking one cigarette after another. Monica at the piano, asked for requests and before you knew it, they were singing hits from theBeatles, Stones, and Elton. I asked if they knew of Joni Mitchell and they said, ahhhhh "aJoana Baeza?"... And then Monica started playing and singing "Chelsea Morning..."which they then immediately recognized and one guy said, "Oh yes, aJoni Meeeetchillllla." What a night! JulieZW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:54:37 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: FW: Joni Dementia (going NJC) Back in the old "smoke" days we used to pass the peace pipe, turn on the reel-to-reel and play music, sing, discuss, philosophize, banter, compose, etc. We were sure we were original, creative, and brilliant. When our head would clear we would listen to the tape for gems. What a laugh we got. Such babbling nonsense. I sure wish I had kept just one of those tapes! Jerry np: Kronos Quartet - Short Stories ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:02:35 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: FW: Joni Dementia (going NJC) I know just what you mean. Ther is also nothing more boring than trying to speak with someone when they are stoned. However, when you are both stoned....even tv adverts became hilarious. I first had it in 85 when I started to sell my knitwear at Greenwich Market. I was 26/7 at the time. I only ever smoked it once outside the safety of my own home because of the laughter it produced, the paranoia and the fact it seemed to set my groin on fire! Listening to music with the phones on was great and like someone mentioned earlier, Hejira was a good one for this. One could really ride with the music. mind you, I have always been able to do that sotned or not. If I want to switcvh off and drift into dreamland I lay in the dark, put Joni on(mostly) the phones and I am off. I notice so much more in the music this way. Jerry Notaro wrote: > Back in the old "smoke" days we used to pass the peace pipe, turn on the > reel-to-reel and play music, sing, discuss, philosophize, banter, > compose, etc. We were sure we were original, creative, and brilliant. > When our head would clear we would listen to the tape for gems. What a > laugh we got. Such babbling nonsense. I sure wish I had kept just one of > those tapes! > > Jerry > > np: Kronos Quartet - Short Stories - -- Living is the process whereby we create the structures we call meaning. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk Carly Simon Discussion List http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:09:29 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Been Around, but Lost (now SJC) Kenny Grant wrote: > The line > "Love takes so much courage, love takes so much shit" had been a little > difficult for me to grasp, perhaps because I'm fortunate to be involved in a > good and loving relationship for the past 5 1/2 years... Not from one another, but from others for being in love. Very appropriate for those in same-sex relationships. Jerry np: My Best to You Hello Joni, so long, Roy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:40:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: TapeTree #7 (Contents) As a tape tree branch, I have received my copy of Tape Tree 7, and I want to extend my gratitude to simon for allowing joni fans to share in this wonderful music. For me, the real treasure here is the 1974 concert which includes Barangrill with a wonderful intro, as well as This Flight Tonight and other songs which I have never heard performed live since I never got to see joni during that time. More than ever, this confirms my support of tape trees. These gems should be shared with those who truly appreciate them! Bill *HOUSE of SPAM*, made possible by Hormel Meats, has lots of unwanted parts "Spamming. . . recipes that blend pig snouts with hooves and hair . . . had this actually been served up when it was first cooked, today's unsolicited commercial pitches might a little fresher ." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:53:32 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Fahey's AMERICA, Restored (NJC) anyone out there into the music of guitarist John Fahey. his 1971 Album 'AMERICA' has been restored and released on CD. From the Liner Notes: In 1971 John Fahey recorded AMERICA, one of the most striking albums of his career. But sometime between the time it was recorded and the time is was released, half the album was scrapped. (Fahey was persuaded that a double album wouldn't sell.) Thus the truncated AMERICA was issued as a single LP. Released here for the first time are the additional nine songs that would have made up the first album in the abandoned two-LP set. These singular recastings of American hymns, gospel, and folk songs; Skips James's "Special Rider Blues"; an exquisite arrangement of the third movement of Dvorak's EIGHTH SYMPHONY; and a couple of lost masterworks--"America" (the only recording of Fahey playing 12-string?) and "Dalhart, Texas, 1967"--allow the listener to grasp the scope and ambition of Fahey's original concept in a way never before possible. "It was a materpiece then," says Chuck Young in his liner notes, "and it's twice the masterpiece now." Here, at last, is AMERICA as Fahey originally envisioned it. *1. Jesus Is A Dying Bedmaker *2. Amazing Grace *3. Song #3 *4. Special Rider Blues *5. Dvorak *6. Jesus Is A Dying Bedmaker 2 *7. Finale *8. America *9. Dalhart, Texas, 1967 10. Knoxville Blues 11. Mark 1:15 12. Voice Of The Turtle 13. The Waltz That Carrier Us Away And Then A Mosquito Came And Ate Up My Sweetheart * previously unreleased - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:53:26 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Fred Simon ~ Solo Piano Album (NJC) last january JMDL member Fred Simon wrote >____________________________________________________________________________ >The first week of January I recorded a solo piano album of my arrangements >of Brian Wilson/Beach Boys tunes. It turned out very nicely, and sort of >sounds like Beach Boys as played in the style of Joni Mitchell. At least, >that's my take ... many of the songs turned out slower and sadder. Brian >was definitely one of the pop song geniuses of the 60s ... exquisite music. > >It should be released in March on the tiny NorthWord Press label, which >right now only sells in specialty stores and big Wal-Mart and Target chains >in special kiosk displays. The label plans to release two versions ... the >first will have nature sounds in the background (no kidding), probably surf >and beach stuff. That's their shtick ... music with nature sounds. >Definitely not my choice, but, hey, whatever. Later they hope to release >the music only in regular record stores. >____________________________________________________________________________ Fred's album is available from: NorthSound Music Group (715) 356-9800 Box 1300 Minocqua, WI. 54548 (800) 726-6784 CD #ASAC-70512, "The Music of The BEACH BOYS relaxing solo piano interpretations with nature" Item #70512, Beach Boys *AS* (CD) $15.95 (listed this way on the packing slip) hey Fred, nice going. the nature sounds aren't really an intrusion. as for the music ... well it IS Brian Wilson. "If there is one person that I would have to select as a living genius of pop music, I would choose Brian Wilson." --George Martin, 1996 Producer, The Beatles "No one is educated musically 'til they've heard Pet Sounds... It is a total, classic record that is unbeatable in many ways." --Paul McCartney "Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper wouldn't have happened... Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds." --George Martin "I've often play Pet Sounds and cried." --Paul McCartney "I'm not a genius. I'm just a hard-working guy." --Brian Wilson, 1966 y'all really should check out Fred's new CD as well as The Beach Boys "PET SOUNDS SESSIONS" Boxed Set, produced by Brian Wilson. - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:11:16 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA I smoked >some grass for the first time in ages recently, and really got into >Herjira for the first time listening to it - I think because of the >grass. >(SNIP) You are obviously quite a brave guy to admit to smoking the occasional joint in these Puritanical 90s. Emphasis here on "admit to", which is akin to confessing that you never smoked a cigar before it was trendy. So now I'll slip into my asbestos boxers and see what the jmdl's gonna do with this! >If it was mainly his own maybe he deserves more credit - or does Joni >compoise the whole bass section herself - then explain it to someone and >just get them to play it? > There is an interview on Wally's page where Joni expresses her frustration at not being able to find a bass player that could play what she was hearing in her head as her bass lines. "You can't do that with a bass (or words to that effect)" they'd tell her -- and these were jazz musicians, apparently. Then a friend told her to check out this young kid playing clubs in LA -- it was Jaco and the rest is history. >And also as everyone seems to think Herjira maybe a >creative peak for Joni - what exactly is it about that album ?? > For me, all her various musical/lyrical elements that were simmering up through "Court and Spark" come to fruition in 'Hejira'. In earlier efforts, I've had a sense that Joni was battling with the piano vs. the guitar as her instrument of choice (esp. Ladies of the Canyon). The flexibliity of the guitar takes center stage on 'Hejira', coupled with such masterful playing as to become the thematic cement of the album. I also find the lyrics are much more complete. Think of "Down to You" (oh god they're gonna kill me) ... brilliant lyrical intro which kind of makes the symphonic interlude seem a bit schizophrenic. 'Song for Sharon', 'Refuge of the Road', 'Furry Sings the Blues' don't flinch that way, as Joni dares to fully explore the song lyrically. So wrap it up with Jaco's bass playing as the giant bow on the package, and some of the cleanest, least intrusive production ever done *anywhere*, and there you have it. Certainly 'Hejira' is a fulcrum on which Joni's creative effort balances, but I'd be hard put say "peak" or "best" or anything like that ... I love it all too much to rank any individual piece! Don Rowe (running for cover from the DEA and the jonischolars) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: used vg8 ad (NJC) fyi-though i don't know this person, i ran across this on the digital guitar list and thought i would pass it along. Bill - --------------------- From: Tom Pandelakis Subject: Roland VG-8 for sale Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:48:46 -0400 Hi folks, I'm selling my vg-8 with the s-1 expansion kit, a memory card, = cable and expression pedal for $1200.00 plus shipping. I bought it = October of last year, used it on 3 wedding gigs and played with it on my = desk a few night's before I realized I really wanted a guitar synth (I'm = looking for a used GR-30). Anyone interested?=20 Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: edith and the soundrack After watching Saving Private Ryan, I can see why joni cites Edith Piaf as her favorite vocalist. In one of the quieter scenes in this turbulent film, one of the soldiers translates as Piaf sings longingly about her lost love. Wonderful scene!! Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:47:08 -0700 From: Michael Heath Subject: Re: Joni & Heroin (NOT), but JacoP on HERJIRA Ben Mulvey wrote: > On Jaco Pastorius: > > As his playing contributes so much too that album - I wonder how much it > was his original creativity or how much he was being directed by Joni ? > If it was mainly his own maybe he deserves more credit - or does Joni > compoise the whole bass section herself - then explain it to someone and > just get them to play it? > > Anybody know ? And also as everyone seems to think Herjira maybe a > creative peak for Joni - what exactly is it about that album ?? > > Ben > > ______________________________________________________ I asked that very thing of Joni during my "ferry talk" with her and she said that it was collaborative. Jaco was a very instinctive jazz player, well versed in improvization. I am sure that Joni had strong input editorially and in the way that she would ask for certain tone colours and different degrees of punctuation and duration of phrases to add or subtract tension, but to my ears(being an avid fan of Jaco's band, Weather Report) there's alot of his ideas being put forward on the album as well. cul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:47:23 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Fred Simon ~ Solo Piano Album (NJC) In a message dated 7/30/98 8:51:40 AM, simon@icu.com wrote: >hey Fred, > >nice going. the nature sounds aren't really an intrusion. > >as for the music ... well it IS Brian Wilson. > >y'all really should check out Fred's new CD as well as The Beach Boys >"PET SOUNDS SESSIONS" Boxed Set, produced by Brian Wilson. Thanks so much, Simon, I really appreciate the kind words (plus, anyone with Simon in their name is cool in my book). You, know when I heard the ocean sounds the record company put behind the music I honestly dug it; you're right, they don't get in the way of the music, mixed well underneath, and, truth be told, I could listen to the ocean itself all day. I have to say that this is one of the most successful marriages of music and environmental sounds I've heard; it makes actual musical sense ... after all, it is the Beach Boys. I also agree with all the sentiments about Brian Wilson; his Beach Boys work is pure genius. When I was preparing for the project I got the Pet Sounds box set and heartily recommend it to everyone; it has the first official stereo mix of the album, which was originally released in mono because Brian is deaf in one ear (the result, he says, of his father having regularly boxed his ears). The mix in stereo is a big improvement because of how dense the orchestration is; this gives more space and clarity. There are also discs of Brian rehearsing the musicians, and of instrumental tracks without vocals and vice versa. Thanks again for the nice plug. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:10:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Alison Einerson Subject: RE: NJC Elizabeth Frazer Hello all-- It has been a great while since i last posted (due to an extremely busy final quarter at school), but Patrick's thoughtful comments on Elizabeth Frazer have compelled me to respond. Along with Joni, Frazer had a tremendous impact on my vocal style and general musical opinions. This Mortal Coil on the 4AD label have done some simply brilliant music and "Song to the Siren" is a tune that can still make me cry. THe passion that Frazer transmits through her voice is very powerful, particularly on that song. The cocteau twin's older music is far less intelligible than the more modern stuff, but that is part of the beauty of it--anyone can sing along without fear of missing a word and thereby missing some "intended" meaning. It is just pure aural pleasure. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:55:57 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Joni LP Mix Tape Program A friend of mine returned from vacation with nearly the entire Joni catalog on vinyl that he was able to pick up in Boulder, CO (Bart's CD Cellar) -- for $.25 EACH. Lucky dog, but I was able to share in his good fortune by constructing the following tape. It moves in a kind of chronological order (but we missed "For the Roses" so it's out of place). The vinyl was clean and warm and took me back to the heady days of my Boston Acoustic Towers, 250W Fisher pre-amp/amp, Garrard turntable sterero rig. Sure my bed was in the hallway ... but the sound kicked tail! So here's the line-up, which I highly recommend to anyone who hasn't tried it recently: (C-90, w/both sides packed to the leader) Side1: Morning Morgantown For Free People's Parties Same Situation Raised on Robbery Furry Sings the Blues Strange Boy Song For Sharon Talk to Me Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Side2: The Chinese Cafe Wild Things Run Fast Man to Man The Three Great Stimulants Tax Free Barangrill Let the Wind Carry Me My Secret Place Snakes and Ladders How Do You Stop (from CD obviously, but a perfect fit) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:24:50 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Joni, Kate, Patti, Nico and Marianne are 'New Hippie' icons apparently.... Even though JM is an obvious (oblivious?) icon of hippy chic, her current tastes run toward the avante garde designers, particularly the Japanese like Comme Des Garcons and Issey Miyake. I was visiting LA in the early 90s, and I was checking out this recycled clothes of celebrities place on Melrose Ave., and there was a Comme Des Garcon jacket once owned by JM. It was still like $500 though... - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:49:26 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: edith and Private Ryan In a message dated 98-07-30 11:35:04 EDT, bdolling@CapAccess.org writes: << After watching Saving Private Ryan, I can see why joni cites Edith Piaf as her favorite vocalist. In one of the quieter scenes in this turbulent film, one of the soldiers translates as Piaf sings longingly about her lost love. Wonderful scene!! Bill >> Bill, I'm glad you brought that up. I was wondering about that myself. Anyone know what kind of Edith Piaf recordings are available these days? As for the film, since Julie has been too busy sharing OUR party headquarters with a bunch of Italian nurses to post a review of this film, let me say I thought it was the most outstanding movie about war I've ever seen. What a moving picture with a great storyline and wonderful performances by Hanks et al. Granted I am a sucker for all things D-day and Battle of Gettysburg (probably the two most crucial events/battles in the history of the USA and its development as the most powerful nation in the world today). Still, Spielberg has spun together a story that tells of both the horrors of war and its sometimes-necessary greatness in three hours. I've seen it twice already and will again. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Re: edith and Private Ryan A quick search produced 52 cd's and albums available. I own abut 8 or 9. She has always been a favorite of mine. And such a fascinating life story. Jerry On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-30 11:35:04 EDT, bdolling@CapAccess.org writes: > > << > After watching Saving Private Ryan, I > can see why joni cites Edith Piaf as > her favorite vocalist. In one of the > quieter scenes in this turbulent film, > one of the soldiers translates as Piaf > sings longingly about her lost love. > Wonderful scene!! > Bill >> > > Bill, > I'm glad you brought that up. I was wondering about that myself. Anyone > know what kind of Edith Piaf recordings are available these days? > As for the film, since Julie has been too busy sharing OUR party headquarters > with a bunch of Italian nurses to post a review of this film, let me say I > thought it was the most outstanding movie about war I've ever seen. > What a moving picture with a great storyline and wonderful performances by > Hanks et al. > Granted I am a sucker for all things D-day and Battle of Gettysburg (probably > the two most crucial events/battles in the history of the USA and its > development as the most powerful nation in the world today). Still, Spielberg > has spun together a story that tells of both the horrors of war and its > sometimes-necessary greatness in three hours. I've seen it twice already and > will again. > > Paul I > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:15:42 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: (NJC) updates from the mexican correspondent As Mariana's appointed JMDL "virtual" carrier pigeon, here is today's message. Kakki, starting to wish she was playing video games and crunching on a helado *************** > so another day skipping conversation and wood working and all that stuff > i donīt want. las fresas have been pretty good as of late. one was > absent yesterday (whitney, the one i donīt like) and the atmosphere > lightened a bit. our teacher likes to play games, so we played the card > game UNO and the game Guess Who? which was fun. > i really enjoy my family. afternoons are very lazy. gaby, jose > (princepo kiki), and i usually play nintendo and i do my homework and > then retreat up to my room to write in my journal, escribir cartas > (write letters) to amigas, and listen to music. > now can i assert how much i looooove the foo fighters? i listen to > them almost everyday. actually the other day, we had just turned off the > nintendo and a foo fighters music video was on. it was "everlong", the > one where taylor hawkins plays a girl and dave grohl has a really goofy > hairdo. i loved it. speaking of the foo fighters, hereīs an update on > blonde surfer boy: i saw him, i think. twice. he was talking on the > phone and was wearing flip flops and was saying, "tell everyone i love > them.". awww. he looks kind of like pat smear (i would murder myself if > that was my name for obvious reasons) from the foo fighters. well ex-foo > but there it is anyway. for those of you who have seen pictures of the > original foo fighters, heīs the one with the dark eyebrows and light > hair. for those of you who havenīt, youīre on your own. > at nights we usually go out someplace. like the other day we went > to the video arcade. i played pinball. they had one themed like the > whoīs tommy and it was in english and played "weīre not gonna take it" > and "pinball wizard". it was really funny. i got an helado, or ice cream > here too. itīs different than in the states. itīs gritty. i think the us > kind has more cream. > anyway....adios > > mariana in mexio > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:33:00 -0700 (MST) From: Phil Gibbs Subject: Joni on Johnny Cash Show Just a reminder that, when you are in NYC or Los Angeles, you can view a video tape of Joni on the Johnny Cash show if you go by the Museum of Television. Phil in Phoenix ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:32:12 EDT From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: yoni (most definitely NJC) Yikes! That reminds me...a few years ago I used to work with a man from Eritrea named Yonas. He was a very sweet person, loved by all. Most of us in the office called him "Yoni." I'm now appalled to realize that I was saying, "hey Vagina, how are you doing?" ...Neil in Seattle ************ Cul and WallyK wrote: >the term "Joni" which apparently shows up rather frequently >in the Kama Sutra and is translated as "vagina". >:) > >cul "You know, I always found this so very funny! But I think the word is Yoni, with a "y"." WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:32:05 -0700 From: "James A. Murray" Subject: Mass extinction was "Fave Lyrics & Misc." (NJC) >"It takes all kinds of people to make up a world, >All kinds of people & things >They crawl on the earth, they swim in the sea, and they fly in the air on >wings >All kinds of people & things, >And brother, I'll tell you a hunch >Whether you like them, or whether you don't, >You're stuck with the whole damn bunch..." We're not stuck any more. With an estimated 200 species extinctions/day, we'll be rid of many of them in no time. jimbo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:34:55 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Fred Simon ~ Solo Piano Album (NJC) > Fred's album is available from: > NorthSound Music Group (715) 356-9800 > Box 1300 > Minocqua, WI. 54548 (800) 726-6784 > > CD #ASAC-70512, "The Music of The BEACH BOYS > relaxing solo piano interpretations with nature" > Item #70512, Beach Boys *AS* (CD) $15.95 > (listed this way on the packing slip) Operators are standing by. I just called the "800" number and it was easy to order the CD. They take Visa or MC and add on $3.00 for shipping & handling. Can't wait to hear it. Kakki Thought of the day: Hang loose, and if you can't hang loose, then hang ten ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:05:49 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: NP: Gillian Welch (NJC) Now Playing ... "Hell Among The Yearlings" the new Album by Gillian Welch was released two days ago. check it out. how IS is possible for someone as young and from a surburban background ... to sound so 'old country' "Leaving Train" from the 'HORSE WHISPERER' Soundtrack is *not* included. - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:14:29 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: STARART BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE! I just now received a call from Hollywood Book City that they have three (3) STARART books in stock. They books are brand new - just out of the box. Unfortunately, from the perspective of Joni debt, they want $250.00 each for them. I told them that price was very high but they said they would not come down on the price because of the "difficulty involved in obtaining them." For those who are still undeterred, Michael Walsh at Book City is standing by at (310) 466-2525. For those unfamiliar with this book, it includes around 45 Joni paintings, along with the works of Ron Wood, John Mayall, Cat Stevens and other. It is a very rare book. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:28:49 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: BowieNet Hi Earthlings! BOWIENET OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE 21st July 1998 DAVID BOWIE TO OFFER INTERNET SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC VIA BOWIENET DAVID BOWIE confirmed rumors of the last several weeks that, beginning September 1, he will launch BowieNet. Located at www.davidbowie.com, BowieNet will be the first artist-created Internet Service Provider. The official announcement of the launch was to coincide with the release of EMI Records compilation "The Best Of David Bowie 1974/1979" on August 23. However, the CD, which contains details of the on-line service, was prematurely released by EMI-Canada two weeks ago. This led Canadian fans to search for the service. In response, a "pre-launch" site was posted on the www.davidbowie.com home page. BowieNet will offer high-speed Internet service across North America and, by year end, throughout the world. In addition to full uncensored access to the Internet as well as traditional content (news, sports, finance etc.), davidbowie.com will provide a community of music lovers the best access to music and entertainment content on the Web as well as exclusive content available only through this service. BowieNet will offer users a fully customizable home page, davidbowie.com e-mail address (your.name@davidbowie.com), news groups, chat rooms, online shareware, multi-player gaming, and much much more with local access from over 2,000 cities in north America. For Bowie and music fans in general, there will be previously unreleased audio tracks, videos and photos. Thousands of album reviews, concert reviews and music articles along with a wide assortment of content updated daily. BowieNet promises numerous cybercasts (both live and archived) from Bowie as well as other artists. Each user will be given 5 MB of space and encouraged to create their own web pages. BowieNet will host these pages at no additional charge and ensure their placement on the World Wide Web, giving access to all users of the Internet. The BowieNet will support both Microsoft and Netscape browsers. All users will be given the latest version of Internet Explorer, customized specifically for davidbowie.com. Users wishing to utilize davidbowie.com as their Internet service provider will pay a fee of $19.95/month. For a limited time the first month's fee will be waived. For those users wishing to remain with their current provider, access to davidbowie.com can be obtained for a monthly fee of $5.95. Music fans choosing full internet service will receive a CD-Rom containing the customized browser along with two classic live Bowie audio and video tracks never before released to the public. As a special bonus, there will be an exclusive encrypted newly recorded audio track which will unlock via the Internet. "I wanted to create an environment where not just my fans but all music lovers could be a part of the same community," Bowie stated, "a single place where the vast archives of music information could be accessed, views stated and ideas exchanged." Bowie continued, "Our biggest challenge was to assemble unique proprietary content along with first-rate content suppliers and unparalleled Internet service from tech support to billing. After nine months of work, I believe we have achieved just that." To that end, UltraStar Internet Services was created. (UltraStar details below.) Due to the early announcement of BowieNet, UltraStar has set up a hotline number 800-587-STAR (7827) for fans to sign up for Internet service and reserve e-mail addresses. No accounts will be charged until members have received their CD-Roms and the network is officially launched 12:01 A.M. Tuesday September 1st. David Bowie is no newcomer to the Internet. As early as 1983, Bowie tours carried portable computers and handled all communications by e-mail. Bowie was one of the first artists to cybercast a live show over the Web. He has hosted a number of online chats and was the first major artist to post a new song freely downloadable to the public. That song "Telling Lies" had 375,000 downloads in the first two months. Bowie also created and designed bowieart.com, an Internet commerce site featuring prints of artwork by Bowie and others for direct sale the public. BowieNet will be powered by Concentric Network Corporation. As the leader in high performance secure virtual private network services, Concentric will handle all billing and offers 24 hour - 7 days a week customer support. Concentric will supply all dial-up locations in North America and provide availability in 47 countries by the end of 1998. They will also provide web hosting and connections up to T1 speeds. Concentric services some of the world's largest networks including WebTV and Intuit's Quicken Financial Network. General content will be the most extensive on the Internet. Content will range from the most often requested - news, financial, sports and weather to the most personal including horoscopes, lottery numbers and local TV and movie listings. BowieNet will also provide users with the ability to customize their own home page so each user can quickly get just the information they want. Design will be overseen by Bowie personally in conjunction with Nettmedia. Nettmedia is a new-media development company that specializes in web and enhanced CD design and production for the entertainment industry. Founded in 1995, Nettmedia has grown steadily and has an impressive list of clients including Sarah McLachlan, BMG Entertainment, Lilith Fair, the Wu Tang Clan, EMI Music Canada, The Backstreet Boys, Nettwerk Records, the Barenaked Ladies, and many Exclusive and non-exclusive music content will be supplied from a number of the best sources available. Among these is the Rolling Stone Network. Their vast database along with recently acquired tunes.com as well video-on-demand and their extensive Internet radio network will bring BowieNet users the latest music technology on the Internet. Long-time Bowie web host N2K's Music Boulevard Network will supply large amounts of music and entertainment content as well as transactional capabilities. N2K Inc. is a leading online music entertainment company and one of the Internet's complete resources for music content, community and commerce. The Music Boulevard Network, the company's online division combines Music Boulevard, the online music superstore and the award-winning music channels: Rocktropolis.com, JazzCentralStation.com and ClassicalInsites.com. UltraStar is a management technology partnership that specializes in the arena of Internet services, bringing major entertainment, sports and fashion clients to the world in a community-based forum delivered over the Web. UltraStar's philosophy is to allow users a personal experience with their favorite personalities via the Internet. Never before has there been a gateway where the private and public worlds of famous figures has been opened with the continued support, input and materials of each star. UltraStar Principals: WILLIAM ZYSBLAT is co-founder of RZO, a company involved in business management and tour production in music and the performing arts. RZO is one of the preeminent firms in its field, representing artists such as the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, David Byrne, Soul Asylum, the Gershwin estates, etc. RZO also promotes tours for groups such as U2. RZO is also a leader in the area of entertainment financing, having been responsible for the recent so-called "Bowie Bonds" involving $55 million in debt financing securitized by the future flow of royalty income from Bowie songs and masters, a first in the entertainment field. ROBERT GOODALE is an executive producer in music and interactivity, including interactive events and Internet sites for the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, and The Cure. Firsts associated with these artists and their Web sites have included the debut sale by a major artist of audio material only over the Internet (5,000 numbered CDs with The Cure); the first artist to make available a single solely over the Internet (David Bowie with over 375,000 downloads in Dec. 96/Jan. 97); the world's first live rock n roll concert on the Internet (the Rolling Stones November 1994); executive produced four of rock's top five most trafficked Webcasts in Internet history. Executive produced David Bowie's CD-ROM ("JUMP"). Executive vice president of Bowie's management company for six years. Executive producer of various films. RON ROY has 15 years of computer/multimedia/Internet experience. Ron has worked with a variety of computer technologies throughout his career including help produce and market some of the industry's first truly interactive CD-ROM's - using full-motion video and stereo quality audio - in areas that included sports (Big East Basketball, Reebok International) and training (one of the first interactive CD-ROM's for Windows 95, which eventually was redesigned to work over the Internet). In the area of Internet/music, Roy is currently the Project Manager for The Cure's official Web site (www.thecure.com), which holds the distinction of both being a rock Web site where all site design features are produced by the band itself and holds three of the top five all-time listened to Webcasts. Roy was also instrumental in bringing the first Internet-only CD release, Five Swing Live by The Cure, to market. - ENDS - Thank you Paul Kinder -- Paul Kinder (UK) DAVID BOWIE - LITTLE WONDERWORLD -- BowieDirectory BowieFanDataBase BowieSearcher -- David Bowie: Often copied... Never equalled. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:35:37 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: RE: STARART BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE! Kakki wrote.... I just now received a call from Hollywood Book City that they have three (3) STARART books in stock. The books are brand new - just out of the box. Unfortunately, from the perspective of Joni debt, they want $250.00 each for them. I told them that price was very high but they said they would not come down on the price because of the "difficulty involved in obtaining them." And on that note.... There is a starart book for sale on the ebay web site. Search under Joni Mitchell. - -Davina - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Kakki Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 1:14 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: STARART BOOKS NOW AVAILABLE! I just now received a call from Hollywood Book City that they have three (3) STARART books in stock. They books are brand new - just out of the box. Unfortunately, from the perspective of Joni debt, they want $250.00 each for them. I told them that price was very high but they said they would not come down on the price because of the "difficulty involved in obtaining them." For those who are still undeterred, Michael Walsh at Book City is standing by at (310) 466-2525. For those unfamiliar with this book, it includes around 45 Joni paintings, along with the works of Ron Wood, John Mayall, Cat Stevens and other. It is a very rare book. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:47:54 +0100 From: Linda Brady Subject: Re: BowieNet Does anybody else find this strange? jdoe@davidbowie.com? It's as if his name is now a brand name, like Kraft or something. I don't object to it, I only find it incredibly strange. Linda > Hi Earthlings! > > BOWIENET > > OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE > 21st July 1998 > > DAVID BOWIE TO OFFER INTERNET SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC VIA BOWIENET > > > DAVID BOWIE confirmed rumors of the last several weeks that, beginning > September 1, he will launch BowieNet. Located at www.davidbowie.com, > BowieNet will be the first artist-created Internet Service Provider. The > official announcement of the launch was to coincide with the release of > EMI Records compilation "The Best Of David Bowie 1974/1979" on August > 23. However, the CD, which contains details of the on-line service, was > prematurely released by EMI-Canada two weeks ago. This led Canadian fans > to search for the service. In response, a "pre-launch" site was posted > on the www.davidbowie.com home page. > > BowieNet will offer high-speed Internet service across North America > and, by year end, throughout the world. In addition to full uncensored > access to the Internet as well as traditional content (news, sports, > finance etc.), davidbowie.com will provide a community of music lovers > the best access to music and entertainment content on the Web as well as > exclusive content available only through this service. > > BowieNet will offer users a fully customizable home page, davidbowie.com > e-mail address (your.name@davidbowie.com), news groups, chat rooms, > online shareware, multi-player gaming, and much much more with local > access from over 2,000 cities in north America. For Bowie and music fans > in general, there will be previously unreleased audio tracks, videos and > photos. Thousands of album reviews, concert reviews and music articles > along with a wide assortment of content updated daily. BowieNet promises > numerous cybercasts (both live and archived) from Bowie as well as other > artists. > > Each user will be given 5 MB of space and encouraged to create their own > web pages. BowieNet will host these pages at no additional charge and > ensure their placement on the World Wide Web, giving access to all users > of the Internet. The BowieNet will support both Microsoft and Netscape > browsers. All users will be given the latest version of Internet > Explorer, customized specifically for davidbowie.com. > > Users wishing to utilize davidbowie.com as their Internet service > provider will pay a fee of $19.95/month. For a limited time the first > month's fee will be waived. For those users wishing to remain with their > current provider, access to davidbowie.com can be obtained for a monthly > fee of $5.95. > > Music fans choosing full internet service will receive a CD-Rom > containing the customized browser along with two classic live Bowie > audio and video tracks never before released to the public. As a > special bonus, there will be an exclusive encrypted newly recorded audio > track which will unlock via the Internet. > > "I wanted to create an environment where not just my fans but all music > lovers could be a part of the same community," Bowie stated, "a single > place where the vast archives of music information could be accessed, > views stated and ideas exchanged." Bowie continued, "Our biggest > challenge was to assemble unique proprietary content along with > first-rate content suppliers and unparalleled Internet service from tech > support to billing. After nine months of work, I believe we have > achieved just that." > > To that end, UltraStar Internet Services was created. (UltraStar details > below.) Due to the early announcement of BowieNet, UltraStar has set up > a hotline number 800-587-STAR (7827) for fans to sign up for Internet > service and reserve e-mail addresses. No accounts will be charged until > members have received their CD-Roms and the network is officially > launched 12:01 A.M. Tuesday September 1st. > > David Bowie is no newcomer to the Internet. As early as 1983, Bowie > tours carried portable computers and handled all communications by > e-mail. Bowie was one of the first artists to cybercast a live show > over the Web. He has hosted a number of online chats and was the first > major artist to post a new song freely downloadable to the public. That > song "Telling Lies" had 375,000 downloads in the first two months. > Bowie also created and designed bowieart.com, an Internet commerce site > featuring prints of artwork by Bowie and others for direct sale the > public. > > BowieNet will be powered by Concentric Network Corporation. As the > leader in high performance secure virtual private network services, > Concentric will handle all billing and offers 24 hour - 7 days a week > customer support. Concentric will supply all dial-up locations in North > America and provide availability in 47 countries by the end of 1998. > They will also provide web hosting and connections up to T1 speeds. > Concentric services some of the world's largest networks including WebTV > and Intuit's Quicken Financial Network. > > General content will be the most extensive on the Internet. Content will > range from the most often requested - news, financial, sports and > weather to the most personal including horoscopes, lottery numbers and > local TV and movie listings. BowieNet will also provide users with the > ability to customize their own home page so each user can quickly get > just the information they want. > > Design will be overseen by Bowie personally in conjunction with > Nettmedia. Nettmedia is a new-media development company that specializes > in web and enhanced CD design and production for the entertainment > industry. Founded in 1995, Nettmedia has grown steadily and has an > impressive list of clients including Sarah McLachlan, BMG Entertainment, > Lilith Fair, the Wu Tang Clan, EMI Music Canada, The Backstreet Boys, > Nettwerk Records, the Barenaked Ladies, and many Exclusive and > non-exclusive music content will be supplied from a number of the best > sources available. Among these is the Rolling Stone Network. Their vast > database along with recently acquired tunes.com as well video-on-demand > and their extensive Internet radio network will bring BowieNet users the > latest music technology on the Internet. > > Long-time Bowie web host N2K's Music Boulevard Network will supply large > amounts of music and entertainment content as well as transactional > capabilities. N2K Inc. is a leading online music entertainment company > and one of the Internet's complete resources for music content, > community and commerce. The Music Boulevard Network, the company's > online division combines Music Boulevard, the online music superstore > and the award-winning music channels: Rocktropolis.com, > JazzCentralStation.com and ClassicalInsites.com. > > UltraStar is a management technology partnership that specializes in the > arena of Internet services, bringing major entertainment, sports and > fashion clients to the world in a community-based forum delivered over > the Web. UltraStar's philosophy is to allow users a personal experience > with their favorite personalities via the Internet. Never before has > there been a gateway where the private and public worlds of famous > figures has been opened with the continued support, input and materials > of each star. > > > UltraStar Principals: > > WILLIAM ZYSBLAT is co-founder of RZO, a company involved in business > management and tour production in music and the performing arts. RZO is > one of the preeminent firms in its field, representing artists such as > the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, David Byrne, Soul Asylum, the Gershwin > estates, etc. RZO also promotes tours for groups such as U2. RZO is also > a leader in the area of entertainment financing, having been responsible > for the recent so-called "Bowie Bonds" involving $55 million in debt > financing securitized by the future flow of royalty income from Bowie > songs and masters, a first in the entertainment field. > > ROBERT GOODALE is an executive producer in music and interactivity, > including interactive events and Internet sites for the Rolling Stones, > David Bowie, and The Cure. Firsts associated with these artists and > their Web sites have included the debut sale by a major artist of audio > material only over the Internet (5,000 numbered CDs with The Cure); the > first artist to make available a single solely over the Internet (David > Bowie with over 375,000 downloads in Dec. 96/Jan. 97); the world's first > live rock n roll concert on the Internet (the Rolling Stones November > 1994); executive produced four of rock's top five most trafficked > Webcasts in Internet history. Executive produced David Bowie's CD-ROM > ("JUMP"). Executive vice president of Bowie's management company for six > years. Executive producer of various films. > > RON ROY has 15 years of computer/multimedia/Internet experience. Ron has > worked with a variety of computer technologies throughout his career > including help produce and market some of the industry's first truly > interactive CD-ROM's - using full-motion video and stereo quality audio > - in areas that included sports (Big East Basketball, Reebok > International) and training (one of the first interactive CD-ROM's for > Windows 95, which eventually was redesigned to work over the Internet). > In the area of Internet/music, Roy is currently the Project Manager for > The Cure's official Web site (www.thecure.com), which holds the > distinction of both being a rock Web site where all site design features > are produced by the band itself and holds three of the top five all-time > listened to Webcasts. Roy was also instrumental in bringing the first > Internet-only CD release, Five Swing Live by The Cure, to market. > > - ENDS - > > Thank you > Paul Kinder > > -- > Paul Kinder (UK) > > DAVID BOWIE - LITTLE WONDERWORLD > > -- > BowieDirectory > BowieFanDataBase > BowieSearcher > -- > David Bowie: Often copied... Never equalled. > ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #284 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?