From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #276 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, July 25 1998 Volume 03 : Number 276 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JONI & the Chieftains [Thomas Ross ] Re: Thank-you! [Thomas Ross ] Re:what is hip? [Thomas Ross ] Re: Today in Joni History - July 24 [Susan McNamara ] Re: SJC: Sue McN, WallyB, good Sams [Heather ] What should Barb get next? [Howard Motyl ] RE: The Tribute Album [Howard Motyl ] Re: What should Barb get next? ["Don Rowe" ] Re: JONI & the Chieftains (NJC) [Bill Dollinger ] Tribute Selections [Bill Dollinger ] Rob Jordan's excerpts ["Daugherty, Stephen" ] Re: Tribute Selections ["Don Rowe" ] Attention Piano Players [Susan McNamara ] Re: Tribute Selections [Susan McNamara ] Re: What should Barb get next? [catman ] RE: Tribute Selections ["Wally Kairuz" ] tribute selections [Wolfebite@aol.com] Re: what should Barb get next [barbara wood ] Re: More Joni In The News ["Don Rowe" ] Joni in Literature [Phyliss Ward ] NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? [Phyliss Ward ] Fat Free (Parody) [Bill Dollinger ] Re: More Joni In The News ["Gerald Notaro (LIB)" ] Re: Joni in Literature ["Don Rowe" ] Re: Joni in Literature [jan gyn ] Re: Fat Free (Parody) [catman ] RE: NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] Re: Fat Free (Parody) [Susan McNamara ] Re: Fat Free (Parody) [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Joni in Literature [Linda Brady ] RE: Fat Free (Parody) (NJC) [davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein)] JM guitar tuning patterns [Marian Russell ] J-Cards For Previous Tape Trees (Mac People) [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Fat Free (Parody) [Sue ] Tribute selections [Sue ] Joni MIthcell Parodies ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Joni Covers Album & Possibilities ["Don Rowe" ] Re: JM guitar tuning patterns [Linda Brady ] Re: JM guitar tuning patterns [Jerry Notaro ] UPDATE: J-Cards For Mac People [Mark Domyancich ] Katherine Hepburn on Tribute Tape [Mark Domyancich ] Mojo article - Joni and Hawaii ["Kakki" ] RE: Joni Covers Album & Possibilities [trxschwa ] NJC - 2 questions [Heather ] RE: Joni in Literature ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Fat Free (Parody) [Bolvangar@aol.com] Deni Bonet (NJC) [Marsha ] joni covering... [Wolfebite@aol.com] NJC - violence at Capitol [Sue ] Re: JM guitar tuning patterns [TerryM2442@aol.com] Strange cover of FMIP [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: joni covering... [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:09:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Re: JONI & the Chieftains anybody know how to contact Paddy Maloney, Chieftains chief? They'd like our record. I can see JM singing a tune with them, esp in the old Fiddle & Drum style. TR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Re: Thank-you! congrats fred! staying power! TR On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 FredNow@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/23/98 2:04:01 AM, Chilihead2@aol.com wrote: > > >This Saturday marks the 11th legal anniversary for my wife Debbie and me. We > >have been living together for 18 years, so it's 18 years if you're > >freethinking enough to include the seven years we didn't need a piece of > paper > >from the City Hall. > > Congratulations, Chilihead. > > My wife and I have been married for 10 years, but were together for 3 years > before that. Whenever I mention this to anyone, my wife teases me, asking, > "When we've been married for 50 years, are you gonna say 'Yeah, but we've been > together for 53 years'?" > > -Fred > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Re:what is hip? aactually the term comes from the wolof 'hipi', to see clearly, and is sstill used in this sense in the jazz community. 'kat' is man (I think) so a hepcat is an informed or clearseeing musician or enthusiast. this is also the older sense of 'hippie'. Tom Ross The Cormack & Ross Band's new CD 'global jazz songs' album *HORSE of STONE*, made possible by David Crosby, has excerpts and info at http://www.barncard.com/cormack-ross.html Mizazi Recordings Box 542 Middletown, CT 06457 "Sublime. . . fascinating vocal interplay, virtuoso instrumental work and deeply creative songwriting that blends classical Asian styles with contemporary and traditional Western motifs. . . had this actually been released and recognized when it was recorded, today's music might have a wholly different sound." J. Eric Smith, METROLAND On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Susan McNamara wrote: > I think I want a bumper sticker or a tshirt that says "hip is a herd > mentality." She's said it so many times but I still love it!!! :-) > > Thanks again Rob!! Loved the scanner scats!! :-) > > ____________________ > /____________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > > > "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:18:23 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Today in Joni History - July 24 This was the last time I saw Joni! She was pretty good, as I recall! :-) >1983: Joni performs at Jones Beach in Wantaugh, NY >-------- >Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to >JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. >-------- ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:28:33 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: SJC: Sue McN, WallyB, good Sams At 10:57 PM 7/23/98 +0000, you wrote: >Just a hello as we head toward the Day in the Garden, and a happy >observation of the recurrence of good samaritanism on this list (in >spite of the sometimes heated exchanges) -- when anyone gives a shout >out for help or clues of any kind, there are always many responses from >various members (including Sue -- thanks!). I've experienced this good >vibe, too, and it makes being a jmdler something special indeed. When I >imagine meeting some of you folks in NY, I get all squishy inside... >(Uh-oh... Too much information???) But for real, it's a good spirit, >inspired by Joni, midwifed by Wally (HI, WALLY!!!), and guided by Les, >then passed from person to person. > Kate - Well put! Glad you are around here in JMDL land too! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:01:10 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: What should Barb get next? A few weeks ago, I turned a friend of mine (and a Joni fan, though not obsessed) to Hejira. Barb here should definitely get Hejira. One of the finest rock/pop albums ever made--and one of the most highly underrated. Btw, no discussion--unless I missed it--about JM being number 32 on VH-1's list of Top 100 most influential rock performers and writers. Has this chain been discussed to death? I just thought of this and I don't know why--Friday morning blues? Are there such a thing? But isn't this amazing writing? "You go down to the pickup station, craving warmth and beauty. You settle for less than fascination, a few drinks later, you're not so choosy. When the closing lights strip off the shadows on this strange new flesh you've found, clutching the night to you like a figleaf, you hurry to blankets and the blackness to lay down an impression and your loneliness . . ." - -- Howard Motyl Producer, MPI Teleproductions 16101 South 108th Avenue Orland Park, IL 60462 708-873-3190 708.873.3177 Fax http://www.mpimedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:03:40 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: RE: The Tribute Album What about Jane Siberry doing something? Court and Spark? Down to You? A Strange Boy? Ethiopia? Two Grey Rooms? mmmm. Maybe Jane should just do a tribute album of her own . . . - -- Howard Motyl Producer, MPI Teleproductions http://www.mpimedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:19:02 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: What should Barb get next? Howard, shame on you! Barb's going to have a crippling case of cognitive dissonance ... to recommend 'Hejira' and then quote this stunning passage from CS(Down to You) ... let's all hope she already has Court and Spark! If not, she's going to have to get them both, or was that your clandestine intention? If so, primo job!;-) Don Rowe >"You go down to the pickup station, >craving warmth and beauty. >You settle for less than fascination, >a few drinks later, you're not so choosy. >When the closing lights strip off the shadows >on this strange new flesh you've found, >clutching the night to you like a figleaf, >you hurry to blankets and the blackness >to lay down an impression >and your loneliness . . ." > > >-- >Howard Motyl >Producer, MPI Teleproductions >16101 South 108th Avenue >Orland Park, IL 60462 >708-873-3190 >708.873.3177 Fax >http://www.mpimedia.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: JONI & the Chieftains (NJC) On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Thomas Ross wrote: > anybody know how to contact Paddy Maloney, Chieftains chief? They'd like > our record. What record might that be? - -------------------------------- NOW AVAILABLE- House Of Spam Made possible by Armor Meats. Critics say: " If Spam had gotten the attention it deserved during the 60's, it would have changed the way we look at food!" "Absolutely yummy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:31:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Tribute Selections This thread has been around before a few times, probably because it can be so much fun. Tribute songs I'd be interested in? Black Crow - Pretenders Passion Play - Pet Shop Boys Off Night Backstreet - Natalie Merchant Edith and the Kingpin - Anita Baker Turbulent Indigo - Grace Jones Last Chance Lost - Sade Dancing Clown - B52s Sire Of Sorrow - William Shatner (NOT!) - -Bill - -------------------------------- NOW AVAILABLE- House Of Spam Made possible by Armor Meats. Critics say: " If Spam had gotten the attention it deserved during the 60's, it would have changed the way we look at food!" "Absolutely yummy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:34:17 -0500 From: "Daugherty, Stephen" Subject: Rob Jordan's excerpts As to your cuttings's, Rob, the Unfilterered Joni interview sent shivers down my skin. Absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to buy the August Mojo. This type of fun reading makes all the other drift on the list worth filtering. Thanks VERY much!! I just would have loved sitting in the room and catching the delivery!! You really got my MOJO going! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:43:11 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Tribute Selections Bill writes ... >Sire Of Sorrow - William Shatner (NOT!) > >-Bill > Oh I don't know, we might find a place for Captain Kirk on here yet ... how about the chicken squaking parts in "Talk to Me" ... or a wildly over-dramatic rendition of the televangelist in 'Tax Free' (actually that would be hilarious!!) Make it so! (oops! wrong series) Don Rowe, resident Joni-trekkie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:42:47 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Attention Piano Players Is there anyone out there who is familiar with Joni's piano style who would be willing to field questions from music lovers who are looking for sheet music or just discussion? I often get questions from people checking out the guitar site about Joni's piano style and I would like to have someone to refer them to. If you are willing, drop me a line. Thanks! Take care, Sue ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:47:24 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Tribute Selections >Sire Of Sorrow - William Shatner (NOT!) HEY, Bill!! I would pay to see him sing that on the deck of the enterprise with Spock playing Vulcan lute!! Talk about chewin the scenery!! :-) ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:28 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What should Barb get next? I believe Barbara said she has nothing between HOSL and TI. I took that to mean she had evrything up to HOSL. Seems most of us are recommending the same albums. Although i think I am the only one to suggest Dog Eat Dog. I think it is brilliant! colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:13:33 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Tribute Selections - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Dollinger To: joni@smoe.org Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 9:39 AM Subject: Tribute Selections >This thread has been around before a few times, >probably because it can be so much fun. >Tribute songs I'd be interested in? > >Black Crow - Pretenders >Passion Play - Pet Shop Boys >Off Night Backstreet - Natalie Merchant >Edith and the Kingpin - Anita Baker >Turbulent Indigo - Grace Jones >Last Chance Lost - Sade >Dancing Clown - B52s >Sire Of Sorrow - William Shatner (NOT!) > >-Bill > Absolutely right!!! You know, when I first heard Last Chance Lost, I thought it WAS Sade! The B 52's doing Clown would be so much fun!!! I went to a Grace Jones concert two days, and she's in pretty good form. And I managed to get tickets for Bjork next week! Will she kick me in the face like she did to that Philippine photographer? I'll find out soon enough. WallyK PS: I'd go for Jack Palance on Sire of Sorrow ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:31:08 EDT From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: tribute selections jane siberry- oh yes... something?!! maybe : woman of heart and mind or judgement of the moon and stars.... or electricity 'for the roses' seems like a good albumn for jane.... i want to hear dawn upshaw sings paprika plains- with two pianos- one in tune and one out of tune- along with maybe a rewrite of the orchestration (which needs a bit of toning down IMHO.... sorry-just my opinion...)- played by kronos quartet (for edge) or brodsky (for a sweeter take)- but leave the rock and roll band at the end!!!- maybe 'down to you' with dawn and kronos.... patty larkin ...sweet bird..... sweet honey in the rock doing.... shadows and light!!!! bruce springsteen .... sire of sorrows... grace jones.... dancing clown john cale... two grey rooms!!!! or... slouching towards bethlehem lucinda williams... come in from the cold ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:26:11 -0700 From: barbara wood Subject: Re: what should Barb get next > To: joni@lsmoe.org > > I hate to admit it, but I already had Herija. I just forgot > that it came out after HOSL. To all of you who said to get it.. > your right....its awesome! I went to the Anaheim Pond concert > last May and was thrilled to hear so many songs from Herija. > > So the next most suggested was Night Ride Home. Im going this > weekend to get it! Ill post my thoughts after listening... > > I also loved the Mojo interview. I want to get the mag too! > Ive emailed Oprah. I want to be a leaf in the treetape! > Love to all of you and to Joni.... > Barbara in Laguna Beach CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:41:46 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: More Joni In The News The recent issue of Time Magazine lists the most influential people in the world of art. Under Rock, they list The Beatles with some side bars on The Who and a few others. Under Folk, Bobby wins the title, but there is a photo/mention of JM too, though they describe her as a protest singer. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:47:09 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: nil lara... hi listers! does anyone exist out there who can tell me something about this guy, nil lara? never heard of him before, but i saw him on sessions and was impressed enough to order his cd of the same name (nil lara) and am KNOCKED OUT by it. where did he come from? anybody know? any other cd's someone might recommend? thanks for the anticipated input!! ric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 09:55:55 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: what should Barb get next barbara wood wrote: > > I also loved the Mojo interview. I want to get the mag too! > > Ive emailed Oprah. I want to be a leaf in the treetape! Ah yes, welcome to the JMDL obsession! So glad you made it! Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:05:35 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: More Joni In The News >The recent issue of Time Magazine there is a >photo/mention of JM too, though they describe her as a protest singer. > >Terry > I firmly convinced that everyone who knew how and played acoustic guitar any time between 1963 and 1974 was a "protest singer." ;-D Remember, this is a wing of the same media that cited "rock singer" Brian Eno on his birthday this year, and what's up with that? Oh well, such are their foibles. Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:03:42 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Joni in Literature Excuse me if this has been mentioned before but I recently read the book "Shes Come Undone" by Wally Lamb and there are two Joni mentions in it! At one point the central character's mother is singing in the car "I've looked at *clowns* from both sides now" and the daughter corrects her saying "It's *clouds* Mom!" At another point, friends of hers are recounting thier experiences at Woodstock and say that they ran into Joni Mitchell there, at the port-a-potty I think! Well, we all know Joni wasn't at Woodstock. Should we write the author and correct him or just be happy Joni is mentioned in this best seller?! Phyliss, who left the book in Colorado and is recounting this by memory. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:06:21 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? Are DVD's here to stay? Would any technophiles out there please write me privately as to whether I should get a DVD player for my husband for his birthday. We already did the Beta thing and I don't want to do it again! Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:11:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Fat Free (Parody) FAT FREE Fast food No room Squeezed into blue jeans, Crowd into bathrooms Stick around Cheap fries Deep fried Eat, eat, eat around the clock Crawl home Stomachs turn Fried batter makes Hearts burn I don't feel so good I don't feel so good Push a button to escape Richard Simmons on the tube crying "Girls!" There's evil in this ham! Richard Simmons: "Eat and Run Diners!" "Put down these Cinnabuns And their donut holes!" "Damn their rolls!" Richard preaching fat free menus Preaching less on plates Calling for smaller portions, Promising less weights Thinner thighs, no tummy bands Behinds that really rate. He has pizzas on his breaks, But yours will have to wait He's immaculately fat-free. "Mulitiple hundreds of thousands of ..." Fat free "Hundreds and millions of calories" Fat free "A hundred billion calories! And who is paying the price?" Who, who "Your thighs are" Pissed off Giving up Stare into the menu Ordering the sundae cup Eat like a rooster Tastes like a dream Ho Ho logs and the devil dogs Packing the same whip cream Different Shirts "Pot in their bellies!" Different Pants "Expandable waistline" Raise your deal-a-meal or a cookbook in the air Diner of beansprouts Diner of boring Raw salad bowls and the wheatgerm rolls Oh come let us adore-- Leaves! Lord, there's hunger in this man You get grumpy and sore, With Richard's menu plan. Fuck it! Tonight I go to Denny's With the dairy queens after work. Big Boy deliver me From this hyper little jerk. We're no Charlie's Angels And he's not heaven sent How can he speak for the fit and trim When he's a hyper militant? And he's immaculately fat free. "Our nation must lose its guts!" Spare me "Our nation has lost its strength" Fat free "Our nation has whimpered and cried" Spare me "And petted the Ho Hos" Fat free "The lasagnas and the Twinkees'" Spare me "For so long" Fat free "That we don't know how to eat like a man" Save me "I think that we should turn the United States Marines loose on those golden arches and stop that problem!" "I am eatin' less, I am!" Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Re: More Joni In The News On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Don Rowe wrote: > I firmly convinced that everyone who knew how and played acoustic guitar > any time between 1963 and 1974 was a "protest singer." ;-D Remember, Here's one acoutic guitar play/singer from the seventies whose only protest was the sound of Dylan's voice. Jerry, ducking under asbestos np: S&L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:20:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Re: NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? DVD is not going to replace VHS, yet. It is a videophile medium at the moment, not only for its clarity, but for its ability to carry extra info, such as variable shots, director cuts, alternative endings, etc. of interest mostly only to movie affecionados. Also, the benefit of the added clarity is not much noticable on an ordinary television set. You need a monitor with special inputs. And it is not recordable for consumers. So I would say hold out, for now. Jerry On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Phyliss Ward wrote: > Are DVD's here to stay? Would any technophiles out there please write me > privately as to whether I should get a DVD player for my husband for his > birthday. We already did the Beta thing and I don't want to do it > again! > > Phyliss > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:22:43 +0100 From: Linda Brady Subject: Re: Joni in Literature Phyliss wrote: >At another point, friends of hers are > recounting thier experiences at Woodstock and say that they ran into > Joni Mitchell there, at the port-a-potty I think! Well, we all know > Joni wasn't at Woodstock. Should we write the author and correct him or > just be happy Joni is mentioned in this best seller?! I'd bet a lot of cash that the author knows Joni wasn't there, and (s)he's using that fact to show something about the characters. Anyone? Other books that mention Joni: "Who Will Run the Frog Hospital?" by Lorrie Moore "High Fidelity" (I think) by Nick Hornby both great reads, BTW. Linda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:36:53 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Re: Joni in Literature In reference to ... At another point, friends of hers are recounting thier experiences at Woodstock and say that they ran into Joni Mitchell there, at the port-a-potty I think! I think Woodstock was akin to the Studio 54 experience, of which it's been said that "if you can remember it, you weren't really there!" :-) Don Rowe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:42:27 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Joni in Literature >Other books that mention Joni: >"Who Will Run the Frog Hospital?" by Lorrie Moore >"High Fidelity" (I think) by Nick Hornby >both great reads, BTW. > >Linda > I read and liked both, but don't remember the JM mention in Frog Hospital. Must get thee to the library... BTW, the last thing I read by Lorrie Moore was in the New Yorker like a year ago. I'm hoping it was more a short story than a meditation, as it was a 1st person account of someone discovering they had cancer. Four one one anybody? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:41:14 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) That was excellent. Food fascists are about as much fun as religious ones! colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:55:08 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: RE: NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? Phyliss wrote: Are DVD's here to stay? Would any technophiles out there please write me privately as to whether I should get a DVD player for my husband for his birthday. We already did the Beta thing and I don't want to do it again! >Phyliss I certainly am not a technophile or a videophile, but my significant other is. We bought the Panasonic top of the line DVD player about 2 months ago and I absolutely love it! What's neat about it is the additional information stored on DVD such as the director's comments and narration of how a film was shot or how special effects were performed. I'm sort of a Wizard of Oz nut and my honey bought me the WOZ first. It's great!!! Lots of information about WOZ stuff I never knew about! I hope the DVDs are here to stay, most are only $18-20 here in Los Angeles and we've already bought about 30 of them so far. We bought the new James Bond the other night, I can't wait to see it!!!! That's my .02 - -Davina np: The air conditioning droning....blech - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Phyliss Ward Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:06 AM To: JMDL Subject: NJC! To DVD or not to DVD? Are DVD's here to stay? Would any technophiles out there please write me privately as to whether I should get a DVD player for my husband for his birthday. We already did the Beta thing and I don't want to do it again! Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:07:42 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Oh, Billy!!!! That's your best one since "God Must Be A Stooges Fan!!!" laughin my ass off!! :-) >FAT FREE > ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:21:19 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Bill I am rolling on the floor! : - D I hereby dub you "Master of Parody" ; - ) (Sorry Marsha - you'll have to share the throne) Phyliss Bill Dollinger wrote: > FAT FREE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:26:45 +0100 From: Linda Brady Subject: Re: Joni in Literature Jan wrote: > I read and liked both, but don't remember the JM mention in Frog Hospital. > Must get thee to the library... She's sort of mentioned in passing a few times, something along the lines of "We used to pull out our Joni Mitchell records," etc. I don't know about Lorrie Moore; it seems a while since she's had anything out. Hope she's well and that she'll be giving us another great book soon. She's a remarkable writer. Linda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:35:11 -0700 From: davina@pacificsw.com (Davina Greenstein) Subject: RE: Fat Free (Parody) (NJC) Phyliss wrote: Bill I am rolling on the floor! : - D I hereby dub you "Master of Parody" ; - ) (Sorry Marsha - you'll have to share the throne) Marsha can be the Mistress of Parody ;-) D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Phyliss Ward Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 11:21 AM To: Bill Dollinger Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Bill I am rolling on the floor! : - D I hereby dub you "Master of Parody" ; - ) (Sorry Marsha - you'll have to share the throne) Phyliss Bill Dollinger wrote: > FAT FREE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:51:49 +0200 From: Marian Russell Subject: JM guitar tuning patterns Attention guitarists! I have written a small article on Joni's tuning patterns. At the end of the article is a table which organizes her tunings into 35 patterns. If you are having any trouble understanding her various tunings, or keeping track of them, you might find this article helpful. The URL is: http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/4293/jm_tunings.htm Please let me know if there is anything you don't understand. Marian Russell Vienna, Austria ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:01:56 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: J-Cards For Previous Tape Trees (Mac People) Hi again! I have completed the j-cards for tape trees 1-3 and 5-6. Tape tree 4 (Tribute tapes) had a special j-card made out for them. Contact Les les@jmdl.com to get these. http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/tt1-3%252f5-6.sit.hqx Or, you can try FTP (Using Anarchie or Fetch or whatever FTP client you have): I haven't tried this via FTP, so it may not work! NP-Carey ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:09:33 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Phyliss Ward wrote: > > Bill > I am rolling on the floor! : - D > I hereby dub you "Master of Parody" ; - ) > (Sorry Marsha - you'll have to share the throne) Long before you knew, Phyliss... Of course he is our Master of Parody...and always was! Who do you think inspired me? Bowing in reverence to our Bill's "Fat Free", Marsha, sorry I ate that fried food for lunch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Bill, I nominate this post for the Hall of Fame! As I am "horizontally challenged" I appreciated the song even more. Thanks for the laugh! Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:25:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: Tribute selections River - David Wright Edith and the Kingpin - Paul and Sherelle Dreamland - Mendi, Doug, Bill, Sherrie, Sherelle The Dawntreader - Bob Hannah Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Julie Z. Webb People's Parties - Marsha Doyle Sisotowbell Lane - Pearl Woman of Heart and Mind - Terry M. Carey - Marian Russell Tax Free - Bill Dollinger Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:39:16 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Joni MIthcell Parodies At 01:11 PM 7/24/98 -0400, Bill Dollinger wrote: >FAT FREE If you loved Bill's parody of "Fat Free", you should check out the "JMDL Parody" section under "The JMDL Member Gallery" at www.jmdl.com This is where Bill Dollinger and Marsha Doyle and many more JMDL list members flash their poetic licenses and do terrible (but very funny) things to many Joni Mitchell songs. And let's not forget the "Joni Mitchell Workout Video" concept conceived by Bill and Sherrie Good at JoniFest Spring 98... -JulieZW who is chanting my new mantra thanKs to Bill: "I am eatin' less, I am!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:44:23 PDT From: "Don Rowe" Subject: Joni Covers Album & Possibilities Okay, it might not be new, but the Tribute thing has been so much fun, I'll turn it around. If Joni was to do an album of covers, who/what would you like to hear Joni-fied? Off the top of my choices as follows: 1. Fragile -- Sting 2. Skate Away -- Dire Straits 3. Love Letter -- Bonnie Raitt 4. Spain -- Chick Corea/Al Jarreau 5. Alma Matters -- Morrissey 6. Roam -- B-52s 7. New York Minute -- Don Henly 8. Family Snapshot -- Peter Gabriel 9. Waitin' on a Friend -- Rolling Stones 10. The Villon(sp?)Rose -- Grace Jones ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:58:49 +0100 From: Linda Brady Subject: Re: JM guitar tuning patterns Does anybody know if Joni has ever used standard guitar tuning on any song? Just curious...it would be quite odd to see her fingering a G chord or something. Linda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:01:41 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: JM guitar tuning patterns Urge for Going. Jerry Linda Brady wrote: > Does anybody know if Joni has ever used standard guitar tuning on any song? > Just curious...it would be quite odd to see her fingering a G chord or > something. > > Linda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:03:48 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: JM guitar tuning patterns Joni has used standard tuning on 3 songs: Urge for Going, Tin Angel, and the new song off the upcoming Taming the Tiger: Harlem in Havana. Even when Joni uses standard tuning though her chords are still inventive and she uses a capo for UFG and TA. Check out Marian's new tab for Tin Angel. I haven't had a chance yet, but I'm sure it's great. Take care, Sue PS going on two weeks vacation so hope you guys have a blast. Unless I hook up my modem at home I will be back on Aug 10. >Does anybody know if Joni has ever used standard guitar tuning on any song? > Just curious...it would be quite odd to see her fingering a G chord or >something. > >Linda ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:06:23 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: UPDATE: J-Cards For Mac People Hi again! Jerry noted that the link to the previous tape tree j-cards was bad. The new link is: http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/tt.sit.hqx I put some weird /s in it that screwed it up. Sorry about that, ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:29:15 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Katherine Hepburn on Tribute Tape I would find it absolutely hilarious to hear Katherine Hepburn sing "Night In The City!" I can imagine it now... "Stayrwaey, stayrwaey, downe to the crowds in the streyt..." ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:53:45 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Mojo article - Joni and Hawaii Thanks to Rob for sending the article. It is such a great and revealing interview. Rob's post last week had me running way across town to buy the new Mojo to take on my trip. I called ahead and Borders said "sure we have it - the one with Joni Mitchell in it." Well, it was the July issue about the Pauley concerts - but a very good review, too. Maui was magical as usual. I discovered that an old high school friend is now a world famous artist living in Kula and another Hawaiian friend I jammed with 27 years ago was appearing in a small club in Lahaina! I did the 54 mile drive on the gorgeous Hana Road (scene of Night Ride Home) and convinced my elderly parents and their friend to ride along. I played several local Hawaiian tapes as we drove along. While playing Keali'i Reichel's latest, one of the songs (Toad Song) had crickets and frogs in the background. The folks were very charmed and intrigued with the crickets so, of course, there was my chance to put in the NRH tape and have them listen to Joni's "cricket song" and relate the story to them. I've always had the sense that Hawaii has a special place in Joni's heart. Years ago my friends there would tell me about her appearances at places like The Shell in Honolulu and I would be green wishing I could see my favorite artist in my favorite place. Last year a nice listmember sent me a tape of her concert in Kona, Hawaii in '73 which is priceless because of the live For The Roses material. Kakki, still on tropic time NP: Hapa - Kaopuiki Aloha (with guitar solo by Stephen Stills) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:58:34 -0400 From: trxschwa Subject: RE: Joni Covers Album & Possibilities don, The Villon(sp?)Rose -- Grace Jones that would be 'la vie en rose', and the chances are good joni has sung it or will sing it. the song is identified with edith piaf, one of joni's favorite singers in the world. piaf sang mostly in a very low, alto (?) range for a woman, with a rough timbre. you can listen for years and not be able to put your finger on why it's so moving. further, i've only heard her sing in french, which i don't understand much of. i'm still blown away. i suspect joni would sing it more like piaf. the reason i don't whine about the voice joni's lost is that she has gained so much subtlety of timbre (which as i understand it, is basically texture) joni is moving toward a voice that is as mysterious and as glorious as piaf's. i do love grace's version, especially the second recording. i saw paula cole in concert not too long after the thoreau benefit, and her last encore was a great version of the song in a long black gown with a white feather boa. pretty much the same arrangement as the jones version, but paula's a belter and she was having a blast. patrick np - massive attack - mezzanine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:15:50 -0400 From: Heather Subject: NJC - 2 questions Hi all! 2 questions : I will be in Ottawa, Ontario the 1st week of August. Any JMDLers up there? Any JMDL MST3K fans out there (Suze?)? Please e-mail me privately .... thanks a bunch. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:20:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni in Literature Do you know Argentine writer Julio Cortázar? Many of his works have been translated into English, especially his novel "Hopscotch". One of his novels from the early 70's, "Manuel's Book", contains a two-page long poem dedicated to and about Joni Mitchell. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:48:00 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: Fat Free (Parody) Bill, Fantastic! Do you know Richard Thompson's song "Fast Food" (off of _Mirror Blue_)? I suspect you'd enjoy it. - --David NP: _The Levellers_ ("Forget this so-called dirt of mine/it's just the dust and diesel of the passing time/It's all around you, it's a tragedy, look/so forget the cover, please, read the book!") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:00:42 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: Deni Bonet (NJC) Just saw Deni Bonet playin' real good for free at our Nightfall Series here in Chattaboogie. She is multi-talented on violin, accordian, and mandolin. She had the place jumping, and played at two Lilith Fair venues this season. She has an EP available, and hopefully will hit the big time soon. Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:16:39 EDT From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: joni covering... this is an interesting thread- cuz i hear so much of joni in some newer works and wonder what she would sound like... but if i were make a list of what i'd like joni to sing- that's a whole different animalia.... but what comes to mind are... je non regrette rien .... edith town without pity..... don't remember the original am i blue.... i'll be seeing you.... strange fruit..... or lilac wine...... don't smoke in bed.... (love nina's version) more recent..... melt with you: modern english hobo: tim buckley killing jar: souisxexssesxee and the banshees or maybe some little folk diddy... like the one june tabor does.. apples and potatoes... "here comes the devil with his pitchfork and shovel he was picking up potatoes by the turnpike road..." or Ramon: laurie anderson/strange angels or love among the sailors: laurie anderson/bright red my weird random assortment as it comes ups doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:18:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Subject: NJC - violence at Capitol Michael, I was thinking about you today during the c-span coverage of the shooting. Hope all is well. Please write to the list soon as I am sure others were having the same thoughts regarding your safety. Take care, Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:59:24 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: JM guitar tuning patterns In a message dated 7/24/98 2:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, m.russell@iaea.org writes: << I have written a small article on Joni's tuning patterns. >> Marian, This merits some intensive study- you certainly put a lot of work into unraveling some of the mysteries of Joni's tunings. Thanks for an incredible effort. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Strange cover of FMIP Hi everyone, I just got home from seeing George Thorogood perform at the lake. Rockin' show. 3rd time for me since 1978. Anyway, on the way home flipping through the radio dial when sddenly I hear Neil Diamond doing Free Man In Paris. It was HORRIBLE. IMHonestO, gdave NP: Tape of the Day 7/25/75 Hot Tuna: WQIV, NYC. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:40:02 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: joni covering... In a message dated 98-07-24 22:19:03 EDT, Wolfebite@aol.com writes: << town without pity..... don't remember the original >> Gene Pitney ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #276 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?