From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #258 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, July 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 258 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A Day in the Garden ["Donald Fluke" ] Re: McNeil/Lehrer and Oprah [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Oprah [kg@ibm.net (Kenneth Grant)] Re: (NJC) Lehrer mailbots [Michael Heath ] Re: Bonnie at the OTSFM- (NJC) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: HOSL-HEJIRA-AND DAMN COMPUTERS (VLJC) [Bounced Message ] Re: (NJC) Lehrer mailbots [LRFye@aol.com] Joni Fav Dish ["Kakki" ] Joni & Geffen [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: "tourniquet" pronounciation ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] NJC: Cowboy Junkies ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: "tourniquet" pronounciation [Susan Chaloner Subject: A Day in the Garden Tailgate update: I will be at the Garden from Thursday thru Monday. Tailgate parties could be continuous! Look for the Joni Flag at the closest campsite ! don in Ft. Lauderdale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:52:25 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: McNeil/Lehrer and Oprah In a message dated 7/15/98 8:43:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scam@freeway.net writes: << I am wondering how many listers mailed Oprah? >> Suze, I did and didn't hear anything back from her or her show. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 04:01:37 GMT From: kg@ibm.net (Kenneth Grant) Subject: Re: Oprah Hi Suze, I e-mailed Oprah the day the news broke of the Chicago benefit concert. I said something like "having Joni on your show would be a treat because you always get several performances out of your musical guests, and that the conversation between the two of you would be absolutely scintillating." I also received a reply of acknowledgement. -Kenny On 7/15/98 8:42PM, Sue wrote: So, how many have done their homework and mailed the queen of daytime TV? Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:20:50 -0700 From: Michael Heath Subject: Re: (NJC) Lehrer mailbots Thankyou. cul Michael Yarbrough wrote: > Now, I mean this in the nicest possible way and I hope no one thinks > I'm trying to stir things up or anything, but I just have to say to this > whole thread on the canned response to our Lehrer letters: "Give me > a break!" > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:30:31 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Bonnie at the OTSFM- (NJC) In a message dated 98-07-15 22:18:15 EDT, Wolfebite@aol.com writes: << dec 11th- Bonnie Koloc >> I used to love Bonnie Koloc ("Kentucky Dream") but all I hear from her lately is her voice on commercials for McDonald's and a more recent campaign for Folger's, I think it is. She has one of the purest voices I've ever heard and even wrote some nice tunes. It's been decades since I've seen her; last time I think it was at Somebody Else's Troubles, which I suppose is no longer in business. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:50:00 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: RE: HOSL-HEJIRA-AND DAMN COMPUTERS (VLJC) From: Davina Greenstein Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:59:58 -0700 Colin Wrote Davina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:49:53 EDT From: LRFye@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Lehrer mailbots Michael Y. wrote: > Do you really think it makes sense for a not-for-profit quasi-alternative > to corporate-controlled media to spend precious dimes paying a > staffer to rack his or her brain for unique responses to our substantially > similar mailbombs? I mean this in the nicest way possible, too: I don't think any of us who wrote to PBS expected a response unique to our letter. I am happy that PBS acknowledged receipt of my letter. However, I don't think it would take a paid staffer very long to modify the canned response to indicate recognition of the subject about which I and others wrote. The expenditure of that small amount of time would go a long way toward neutralizing the perception that PBS is a corporation similar to many others ... even though "we" know it's not. 'Nuf said. Lori who just returned from a very nice dinner with Leslie Mixon and John Villasana (more on that later!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 22:17:26 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni Fav Dish Chilihead may be right about Joni being a fishetarian - I just sat down with the August issue of Los Angeles magazine (best dishes in L.A. section) and the first page I opened to (page 86) had a blurb about the Four Oaks in Beverly Glen. It says that Chef Peter Roelant's dish of "warm baby red-skinned potatoes filled with lavender-smoked salmon and topped with Ostera caviar are a favorite of Dustin Hoffman, Warren Beatty and Joni Mitchell." I now expect Chili and Duane to try this at home and let us know the results. ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:52:18 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Joni & Geffen The photo of Joni with David Geffen in Premiere magazine got me curious about her relationship with this billionaire showbiz mogul. I found a Playboy magazine (September 1994) containing a Geffen interview that has quite a bit of Joni info in it. I don't think it's on JMDL.com, so I thought I'd post an excerpt: Playboy: Did you find anyone who became a major star? Geffen: By the time I became an agent, I had signed Jesse Colin Young, Joni Mitchell and the Association, which was big at the time because of "Windy." We used to go to clubs every night, the Cafe a Go-Go and the Bitter End. In those days, you could find the Lovin' Spoonful at one club and Bill Cosby at another, Bob Dylan hanging out in the Village and Joni Mitchell at a coffeehouse. Playboy: Were you blown away by these artists? Geffen: Completely. When I look back on that period, from 1965 to 1975, I was working with the people I mentioned, plus Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, the Eagles, Laura Nyro, Jackson Browne, Linda Ronstadt, Janis Joplin, James Taylor - so many. It was very exciting. I couldn't believe the life I had. Playboy: As those artists emerged, did you have a sense you were involved in a completely new kind of entertainment? Geggen: Not at the time, I was just working frankly. But I can remember when I had Jimi Hendrix and Buddy Miles and Stephen Stills in my apartment in the Sixties. In *my* apartment. I couldn't believe it. Another time Jackson Browne Jimmy Webb, Laura Nyro and Joni Mitchell were in my living room. The day Martin Luther King was killed, I was in a limousine with Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell and Laura Nyro, going to Joni's concert at Bryn Mawr. She was the opening act. People were spitting at the limousine and there was rioting in the street. It was scary. Playboy: You were the free man in Paris Joni Mitchell wrote about. How do you feel about that song? Geffen: It's a great song, but at the time she wrote it, I was embarrassed by it. I didn't want her to record it because it seemed like an invasion of privacy. It was so personal and revealing. Playboy: Were you a free man in Paris? What did that mean? Geffen: Joni and I went to Paris with Robbie Robertson [of the Band] and his wife. Joni saw something that I didn't see. She heard me saying that I'd had enough of this. I was getting to the point where I had had it with all the deals and people. I was ODing on the music business. I was ODing on pop stars. I just couldn't take much more of it. Now, when I listen to the song, I realize how prescient she was. I didn't see it until much later. Playboy: When some of the artists that you discovered became stars, were you proud? Geffen: Oh, God, yeah. I remember when I went to see Crosby, Stills and Nash do their first concert. It was at the Greek Theater. Joni Mitchell was their opening act. From there they were flying to Woodstock, which was going to be their third gig. Yeah, it was incredible that I was part of it in some way. Joni Mitchell wrote "Woodstock" in my apartment. I was there when she wrote it. Playboy: Did you go to Woodstock? Geffen: No. When we got to La Guardia Airport and read in the Times that 400,000 people were there, sitting in the mud, I said to Joni, "Forget it. Let's not go." We went to my apartment, and while we were there she wrote "Woodstock." - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:28:39 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: "tourniquet" pronounciation I don't know about Canadian pronunciation but until Ken or Susan can chime in, I'll give you an answer from the USA. We say "tor-nuh-kit". I had an inverse situation when I heard Roger Waters, of the incredible band Pink Floyd on their vastly underrated album "The Final Cut". He says "tore-nuh-kay" which sent me scrambling for the lyric sheet. BTW, a "torch" in the USA is a stick with fire on the end of it. Apparently in the UK a torch is a flashlight. Imagine my shock when my British car repair manual suggested looking into the gas tank with a "torch"! Colin said: > On The Jungle Line Joni mentions poppy tourniquet. She sings > tur-nee-kit. I have only heard this said as tor- nee- kay. > So is joni using artistic licence or is that the way Canadians > pronounce that word? - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:45:22 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Cowboy Junkies The Cowboy Junkies are now scheduled for Thursday. Dave spent too long bonding with Antonio Banaras. Characteristicly, Dave blamed the postponment on the dreaded Chris Elliot. - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:52:02 -0700 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: "tourniquet" pronounciation Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > I don't know about Canadian pronunciation but until Ken or Susan can > chime in, I'll give you an answer from the USA. We say "tor-nuh-kit". Well, here we are: Susan el eh and the wind chimes, chiming in :~) I say "turn-a-key" but then I've always been kinda odd, eh? ;~) I wonder what Ken says? Susan L.A. The grammar police's worst nightmare ;~D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:53:34 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: "tourniquet" pronounciation In a message dated 98-07-16 02:23:02 EDT, jlamadoo@one.net writes: << "tor-nuh-kit". >> actually, it's "tur-nuh-kit" rhyming with turn, not torn. Paul I ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #258 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?