From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #252 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, July 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 252 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- enough already with grammar! [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: When is the Millenium?! [RickieLee1@aol.com] true blue [Marsha ] Re: Influential Recording Artist, Pt-3 (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Giant you-know-whats. [Jeremy Roberts ] Re: NJC Nicolette Sheridan? [AzeemAK@aol.com] RE: NJC Ashley Judd [Michael Yarbrough ] Re: NJC Ashley Judd ["Kakki" ] Re: Re: NJC Ashley Judd [Marilune@aol.com] Re: When is the Millenium?! [Marilune@aol.com] Re: When is the Millenium?! [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: When is the Millenium?! [briano@interisland.net (Odlum, Brian)] Re: Blue HDCD Remastering in PDX (NJC?) [briano@interisland.net (Odlum, B] Re: When is the Millenium?! [Mark Domyancich ] NJC your recommendations pahleeze ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: NJC your recommendations pahleeze [Marilune@aol.com] RE: NJC your recommendations pahleeze [Michael Yarbrough ] Re: Blue HDCD Remastering in PDX (NJC?) [catman ] Re: NJC your recommendations pahleeze [catman ] Re: When is the Millenium?! [Mark Domyancich ] Test-Ignore [Mark Domyancich ] One more time [Wally Breese ] Re: JT (NJC) [FredNow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:21:07 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: enough already with grammar! one of the things that has impressed me with this list is how the vast majority of us who appreciate joni mitchell seem to be an articulate, intelligent bunch of folk. god knows, i like to think of myself that way!! and as much fun as it might be to get pedantic every now and then, i am finding all this grammar showboating to be a bit intimidating. it does not help with the exchange of ideas to be worrying that some tinfoil chewing word cop is going to jump all over us if we dangle a participle or confuse who with whom!!! so can we dispense with diagramming sentences and get back to being thin skinned and touchy about - oh - al date for example? (speaking of al date, it appears as tho the gorillas i hired did their dirty work! don't worry tho. it was quick, and i am told, he never knew what hit him. cost me a pretty penny, but worth every cent!) love, ric (shift key challenged) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:33:29 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! and i though i had had you killed!!! i want my money back!!! grrrrrrrrr. ric!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:18:50 -0400 From: Marsha Subject: true blue AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > > What price Joni coming over here, eh? I'd skip my own funeral to > see the Great One in concert... Now that's a true fan. Good going, Azeem! Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 01:28:25 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Influential Recording Artist, Pt-3 (NJC) simon scribed: > When she released her first album in 1966, Nyro was a nineteen-year old who linked high flown poetry to >the ecstatic emotions of soul music, and her singing mixed the pure tones of a soprano with the throbs >and swoops of gospel and jazz.² This is what always blows me away - to think what she put together while still in her teens. In addition to being a completely unique and original prodigy with a voice to match, she must have been a very old soul. Need to stock up on some more Laura. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:06:46 +0100 (BST) From: Jeremy Roberts Subject: Re: Giant you-know-whats. Ric wrote: > now wait a minute...i thot we all decided, except for jeremy, who is clearly > in denial, that it was a great big penis? now it is a thick skinned animal? > i am so confused!!!! > (nothing unusual there...) > > - - ric > Hi, Ric and all: I deny that! I'm as happy as the rest of you about the elephantine dong ... I just hadn't taken the allusion as far as SOME other folks I could mention (those with more febrile imaginations) ... Cheers, Jeremy. - -- Jeremy Roberts - using the English summer (wind and sheeting rain) to get on with some (finally pointless?) tasks ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:46:50 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Nicolette Sheridan? If she's really so awful and she hooked up with Michael Bolton, this must evoke that old saying "it's better for two people to be unhappy than four"... :-) Actually, I thought Mr Bolton was now stepping out with Ashley Judd. Don't do it Ashley, you've got your whole life ahead of you! This man has recently released an album of operatic arias. I don't even like to think about what that must sound like. The horror, the horror... Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:09:06 -0400 From: Michael Yarbrough Subject: RE: NJC Ashley Judd Azeem wrote: <<>> I heard that, and my heart sank when I did. Ashley is supremely talented. If you haven't seen _Ruby in Paradise_, rent it now! She's luminous. I wonder what Bolton sold to the devil to win that match... - --Michael NP: Joan Armatrading, _Greatest Hits_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:21:38 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Ashley Judd Michael wrote: > << Judd.>>> > > I heard that, and my heart sank when I did. Ashley is supremely > talented. If you haven't seen _Ruby in Paradise_, rent it now! > She's luminous. > > I wonder what Bolton sold to the devil to win that match... Bolton has been doing tours with her sister Wynonna for awhile now and I recall that she set them up. Not to worry, though, last I heard Ashley is seeing some hunky, young baseball player. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:28:14 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: NJC Ashley Judd In a message dated 7/12/98 10:29:09 AM, kakkib@att.net wrote: >> << >> Judd.>>> > >> > >> I heard that, and my heart sank when I did. Ashley is supremely > >> talented. If you haven't seen _Ruby in Paradise_, rent it now! > >> She's luminous. > >> > >> I wonder what Bolton sold to the devil to win that match... > > > >Bolton has been doing tours with her sister Wynonna for awhile now and I recall > >that she set them up. Not to worry, though, last I heard Ashley is seeing some > >hunky, young baseball player. > > > >Kakki This depresses me! I mean, I'm not a Bolton fan in the least, but I think that if Ashley saw something in him, well....they were supposed to get married I think. Oh well, nice girls are always attracted to badass boys as me and Jenny were agreeing the other night. I've decided to start crushing after George. Not seriously of course, just for summer because he's got low self-esteem and is a nice guy. : ) Sort of a joke though because during summer tour, all the girls lust after the oldest boy. It's funny...it's been about a week since Griffin called me and I don't feel much about it anymore. It's amazing. Time and Love, like Laura said. I've also decided that I can't hate Griffin because at one point there was friendship, but I'm not going to pursue dead ends anymore. Not worth my time anyway. mariana NP: Kate Bush,-The Kick Inside- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:30:27 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! In a message dated 7/11/98 11:05:01 PM, ald@sj.bigger.net wrote: >Colin, > >I can tolerate just about anything except millenial misinformation. >Was your tongue inserted in your cheek? > >You must realize that the Christian Calendar was devised hundreds >of years after Christ lived. Now, if those zealots adhered to the normal > >birthday rule of having to live one year to encounter your first >birthday, >they would've started with Year Zero for Christ's first year on earth. > >But they started with Year One! Christ apparently was the only person >in history whose birthday was celebrated at the beginning of his year of >life >as opposed to the end thereof. As such, the Millenium will not pass >until we have revolved around the sun 2000 times, beginning in Year >One-- >or Dec 31, 2000. > >So, Jan 1, 2001 is the true 2000th; ie, Millenial birthday party. :) > >When the world does not come to an end on Jan 1, 2000, the >doomsayers will simply defer their predictions for one year-- >that is MY prediction. > >--Al Date How depressing, since I graduate in the year 2000. Does this mean that I'm not a member of the Millenium class anymore? That means it goes to the skanky ninth graders. Oh well, they're nice anywho. mariana NP: Kate Bush,-The Kick Inside- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:35:24 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! In a message dated 98-07-12 14:33:45 EDT, Marilune@aol.com writes: << How depressing, since I graduate in the year 2000. Does this mean that I'm not a member of the Millenium class anymore? >> Yes, Mariana, you are part of the OId Millenium class, just like the rest of us! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:35:00 -0700 From: briano@interisland.net (Odlum, Brian) Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! All of you have it WRONG! The true Millenium is when the world as we know it ends, and that will happen when all the clock chips in the millions of computers all over the world roll from 99 to 00. Christ's birthday isn't in the picture! ;-) Brian - ---------- > From: al date > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: When is the Millenium?! > Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 10:44 PM > > Colin, > > I can tolerate just about anything except millenial misinformation. > Was your tongue inserted in your cheek? > > You must realize that the Christian Calendar was devised hundreds > of years after Christ lived. Now, if those zealots adhered to the normal > > birthday rule of having to live one year to encounter your first > birthday, > they would've started with Year Zero for Christ's first year on earth. > > But they started with Year One! Christ apparently was the only person > in history whose birthday was celebrated at the beginning of his year of > life > as opposed to the end thereof. As such, the Millenium will not pass > until we have revolved around the sun 2000 times, beginning in Year > One-- > or Dec 31, 2000. > > So, Jan 1, 2001 is the true 2000th; ie, Millenial birthday party. :) > > When the world does not come to an end on Jan 1, 2000, the > doomsayers will simply defer their predictions for one year-- > that is MY prediction. > > --Al Date ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:46:53 -0700 From: briano@interisland.net (Odlum, Brian) Subject: Re: Blue HDCD Remastering in PDX (NJC?) I'll plan to buy this CD. But I think it's a sign of the times that some people are willing to buy HDCD remasters of earlier works to get better electronic fidelity, but aren't at all interested in listening to later works by the same artist (no one in particular targeted here). To historians, it is a well know characteristic of the era known as the "late empire" that technology is appreciated and advanced, while artistic expression declines. Give me fidelity! Who cares if their music is crap and they're not playing in tune! Brian - ---------- > From: p meyer > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Blue HDCD Remastering in PDX > Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 11:39 PM > > I just bought a copy of BLUE remastered for HDCD at a Tower in Beaverton > Oregon, in the discount bin! I have been watching carefully for at > least six months, since I heard a rumor that this was coming out, and it > wasn't even in the normal Joni Mitchell bin tonight. I recently wrote > Reprise Records, in fact, and asked about it, and was told that they had > no plans to remaster Blue at all! Who can you trust anymore? > > So, it sounds really great! It was worth the search. > > So, check out Tower in the discount bin. (I know, there is no ethical > justification for putting any Joni in anything resembling a discount > bin, but at least you'll know where to look.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:49:16 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! >All of you have it WRONG! The true Millenium is when the world as we know >it ends, and that will happen when all the clock chips in the millions of >computers all over the world roll from 99 to 00. Christ's birthday isn't in >the picture! ;-) Those millions of computers will all be PCs! HA! HA! HA! Mark, avid Mac user ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:45:22 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: NJC your recommendations pahleeze What do you recommend listening to while: 1. Working out (for motivation?) 2. Walking (for duration and speed?) 3. Dancing (for getting down?) 4. Cooking (for inspiration?) 5.Goat Dancing for....well, you know? -JulieZWebb, in the mood to go shopping for music ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:21:25 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC your recommendations pahleeze In a message dated 7/12/98 12:44:21 PM, jzw@visint.com wrote: > What do you recommend listening to while: >1. Working out (for motivation?) 2. Walking (for duration and speed?) 3. >Dancing (for getting down?) 4. Cooking (for inspiration?) 5.Goat Dancing >for....well, you know? > -JulieZWebb, in the mood to go shopping for music This is my take, but you might differ because of the age differnce. Working out: Nirvana!!!!! I love walking and running and dancing to Nirvana and The Foo Fighters too. Any of that grungy, catchy music works wonders. It's also great when you know the words. I can't listen to Nirvana or the Foo Fighters without turning it up really loud and moving around. Walking: Nirvana works good here too. I usually listen to whatever when I'm walking. I can walk to Joni or Sarah as easily as I can walk to The Beatles or the Doors. Dancing: I don't do much dancing. My music isn't "dancy". Cooking: I cook to Sarah McLachlan's "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" sometimes. Of course, Nirvana works here too. You can tell...I enjoy Nirvana.. mariana NP: Guess what! Nirvana, -Nevermind- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:39:38 -0400 From: Michael Yarbrough Subject: RE: NJC your recommendations pahleeze Julie asked for listening accompaniments to: <<<1. Working out (for motivation?)>>> Me'Shell NdegeOcello, _Plantation Lullabies_ <<<2. Walking (for duration and speed?)>>> Belle and Sebastian, _If You're Feeling Sinister_ <<<3. Dancing (for getting down?)>>> Madonna, _Ray of Light_ <<<4. Cooking (for inspiration?)>>> Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto, _Getz/Gilberto_ <<<5.Goat Dancing for....well, you know?>>> Portishead, _Dummy_ - --Michael NP: Various Artists, _Red Hote + Rio_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:26:13 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC your recommendations pahleeze In a message dated 7/12/98 3:44:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jzw@visint.com writes: << 1. Working out (for motivation?) 2. Walking (for duration and speed?) 3. Dancing (for getting down?) 4. Cooking (for inspiration?) 5.Goat Dancing for....well, you know? >> 1 & 2. When I jog (if you can CALL it that), I tune into a classic rock station that plays a lot of good rock/roll. But if I had a portable CD player, I'd have The Police on and maybe some well chosen Stones songs. 3. I don't dance. I can't dance. I look like an idiot dancing. 4. See number 3. 5. Blue Motel Room. Can't get boom boom pacyderm out of my mind Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:55:01 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! my pc is up to the change-no problems. However, my t, who's job is involved somehow, says Apple is going down the tubes. somehow, I don't think Mac will ever gain ground on the pc. My friend Aaron has a Mac(he does desktop publishing) and I know he thinks it is great. I have never used one so wouldn't know. Which reminds me: What do you get if you cross an apple with a nun? A computer that won't go down on you. colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:55:04 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Blue HDCD Remastering in PDX (NJC?) I have one HDCD that I bought(actually two-it seems the MOA I bought in Qubec City is HDCD-and it still doesn't have the dialogue), the only difference I can tell is that it is louder. According to an article I just read, HDCD is crap and not enough of a difference from a normal one. I won't bother buying one again-as I said I can only tell it is louder. colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:54:52 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC your recommendations pahleeze TerryM2442@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/12/98 3:44:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jzw@visint.com > writes: > > << 1. Working out (for motivation?) 2. Walking (for duration and speed?) 3. > Dancing (for getting down?) 4. Cooking (for inspiration?) 5.Goat Dancing > for....well, you know? >> 1. Deep forest(1st), Pet Shop Boys, Aqua, old Summer, Maddy-Ray of Light. 2. Don't walk anywhere! 'cept in gym. 3. Same as for gym 4.Whatever is on in the other room. Usually Joni/Carly/Dar/Janis/Nanci/Sinead/Kate. 5.FFFFFabulous Lover, Love Me-Amanda Lear. No actually nothing-just our own sounds. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:08:34 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: When is the Millenium?! A hah hah hah! Somebody is Mr. Funny Pants! You must have posted this just to piss me off, huh? Apple is gaining ground: just wait till the iMac comes around. And your weak-ass Pentium II processor? The G3 is twice as fast. Don't even get me started on that grease ball Bill Gates. With love, Mark At 10:55 PM +0100 7/12/98, catman wrote: >my pc is up to the change-no problems. >However, my t, who's job is involved somehow, says Apple is going down the >tubes. somehow, I don't think Mac will ever gain ground on the pc. >My friend Aaron has a Mac(he does desktop publishing) and I know he thinks >it is >great. I have never used one so wouldn't know. > >Which reminds me: What do you get if you cross an apple with a nun? >A computer that won't go down on you. > >colin ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:52:13 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Test-Ignore ____________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/ | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 98 22:13:27 -0700 From: Wally Breese Subject: One more time Hi everyone, It's been awhile, I know. But here I am again. How am I feeling? Well, actually a little better everyday. I'm healing from the surgery and trying to gain back some weight and strength before I start chemotherapy and radiation treatments. Sincere thanks to all my friends for helping me through this episode, and thanks to my best buddy, Jim for taking such good care of me while also writing updates for the JMHP. (He hasn't done any updates lately because he wanted to encourage me to do it myself!) Thanks to Leslie and simon for their friendship, and for their assistance in getting reports on my condition out to the rest of the JM Internet Community. And I'll always appreciate Joni's thoughtful phone call while I was in the hospital. I've been profoundly moved by the support and love I've received from all of you since the announcement about my health. I received e-mails, cards, books, CD's, photos, checks, flowers and more. These gifts and your kindness have meant so much to me, often brightening my mood and outlook over the last few weeks. Thank you ever so much! You folks are my extended family. Now, I haven't been totally idle for the last few weeks. I've added a few more of Karl's photographs to the "Tour '98" pages, as well as a couple from Wirly Pearl who sent me shots from the two Burbank videotaping sessions. (Thanks, Pearl!) Have another look: (http://www.jonimitchell.com/OnTheRoad98.html#Reports) I'm also working on the pages for my conversation with Ingrid Pastorious (Jaco's widow). These pages will feature stories and photos that I'm sure you'll all enjoy. More soon. Love, Wally The Joni Mitchell Homepage http://www.JoniMitchell.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:50:38 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: JT (NJC) In a message dated 7/11/98 7:53:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rosst@union.edu writes: << my brother-in-law disparages him as the 'Perry Como of the 70s', >> Can't be ... Perry Como is the Perry Como of the 70s. - -Fred ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #252 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?