From: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #243 Reply-To: Sender: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 7 1998 Volume 03 : Number 243 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NRA / 2d amendment (VLJC) [Mary Pitassi ] Solid love [catman ] Roy, On Trigger? (NJC) [simon@icu.com] Re: Computer enlisted in Michelangelo sculpture mystery--NJC ["Julie Z. W] It's just summer in the young blood [Chilihead2@aol.com] Re: It's just summer in the young blood [catman ] Re: NJC Happy Trails [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Joni On Letterman Tuesday [Michael Paz ] Re: It's just summer in the young blood ["Kakki" ] Thinking of you Wally [Michael Paz ] Re: It's just summer in the young blood [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Smoking (tangential JC) ["Kakki" ] RE:NJC Smoking ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Solid love ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Solid love [catman ] Re: A dream come true..part 3 (long) ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Rather Disturbing "Lesson In Survival" (NJC but GC) [Marilune@aol.com] Re: Solid love [Heather ] Re: Computer enlisted in Michelangelo sculpture mystery--NJC [Heather ] Etiquette Schmetiquette [Bmcd@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:26:59 -0500 From: Mary Pitassi Subject: NRA / 2d amendment (VLJC) Forgive me if this is now beating a very dead horse, but I'm still catching up on back e-mail! Someone (Scott Price?) wanted to know what bearing a discussion of the right to bear arms under the 2d amendment of the U.S. constitution and/or the NRA could possibly have on the Joni Mitchell Discussion List. In addition to agreeing with whoever pointed out that the list's purpose is to discuss *the times* of Joni Mitchell (among other things), I'd suggest the following. How about, "little kids packin' guns to school?" That's certainly a JM line that's proven tragically prophetic in light of the events of the past year in the States! And Simon either posted or summarized a provocative article on the genesis of the constitutional right in the first place. I'm no constitutional specialist, but as a continuing student of that document, I would agree with the article's emphasis. The second amendment actually reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Part of the difficulty over two centuries in interpreting this single sentence may be due to the vagaries of 18th-century punctuation! However, it seems to me that a convincing argument can be made that the right to bear arms is inextricably linked with the necessity of keeping a militia--and a "well-regulated" militia at that! I've heard arguments that, in light of the existence of the modern armed forces, the second amendment has been basically rendered obsolete (i.e., there is no longer any need for a "militia" ). And, as far as the possibility that the U.S. armed forces themselves could abuse their function as the British troops did during the Revolutionary War, from the colonists' viewpoint: some would say that this scenario is mitigated, if not absolutely eliminated, by the representational nature of U.S. government. For some reason, *none* of the NRA materials that I've seen to date have seen fit to quote the "well regulated militia" portion of the very short text of the Second Amendment. And that's all for now! Mary P. P.S. Although I don't agree that there's no place for this discussion on-list, I'd be happy to continue it off-list with anyone who might be interested. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:41:59 +0100 From: catman Subject: Solid love We got a break Unbelievable Right in the middle of this Hollywood heartache We got this solid love All around the town good hearts are going under Love bandits con and plunder Let no man put asunder this solid love..... Exactly 17 yrs ago on Tuesday 7th July, 1981 I was homeless, carrying my gear from one floor to the next, thinking I was at the end of my life and that I was unlovable. That day, out of character, I went to a bar on my own. I hated it. I was about to leave but as I looked up at the doorway...... We got a chance Hot dog darlin We got a chance No more, no more fly-by-night romance We got this solid love Love has always made me feel so uneasy I couldn't relax and just be me More like some strange disease than this solid love.... I locked eyes with a tall dark haired man with a beard, wearing a suit. He came over to me. Later I went home with him. Tested and blessed, darlin I'm going to give you my very best You are my happiness You Open my heart you do You open my heart You do Yes you do Several days later I collected what passed for my stuff from various places and moved in 'officially' with John. In those 17 yrs I have never met anyone that can hold a candle to John. Kind, patient, compassionate, empathetic, intelligent, easy going, calm, monogomous. And handsome('like a reed so tall'cs) to top it all off. He has provided a wonderful role model of how a person could be. We have had many problems, with my health, physical and mental,(I nearly died of liver disease), we have to be careful due to John's job-he isn't out and we'd be splashed over the tabloids if it were known. Despite all that, we have never even come close to splitting up. he doesn't object to my not working, nor my moodiness, and was instrumental in helping me face my past and deal with it-always being there even at the expense of work-having to make up lies so he could be with me. It isn't one sided I have plenty to give-but he isn't writing this! Seventeen years of Solid Love. I wish we could all have that. Tonight it's a quiet, Italian restaurant. and in another 17yrs we'll proably do the same. colin - -- Daily Affirmations: I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper and complain. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:54:26 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Roy, On Trigger? (NJC) RickieLee wonders ... >_____________________________________________________________ >what's gonna happen to poor old stuffed trigger? i want him! >i saw roy live and in person, on trigger. >_____________________________________________________________ i think they'll stuff ole' Roy and mount him up on Trigger. or maybe they'll mount him on Dale? happy trails Indeed! - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:55:51 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: Computer enlisted in Michelangelo sculpture mystery--NJC At 03:35 PM 7/6/98 EDT, Terry wrote: >Hey, is this the WebbVention?? Hi Terry and Al, Yes this is Jon's camera, the "Virtuoso," that IBM bought from us---- which was used on the Michelangelo project. It's been quite thrilling actually. We got 2100 hits on our web site the day the article appeared in the NYTIMES, one being from Lucas Films. Jon is going to be interviewed for the Discovery Channel as a result....... Hey Al, you won't catch me complaining if you post articles like that! -Julie, just back from a day with the kids at the pool ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:53:59 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: It's just summer in the young blood Geez guyz and galz, I send you all my coveted Sangria recipe and asked a Trivia question. I got only one reply. What does it take to break into this list? I am skilled at clever repartee and can chat like a courtesan or a sailor. I am still curious to know what are Joni's fav foods--wines? Does anyone know? (and if you didn't get the San Gria recipe, I would be happy to send it again). Thanks!! ;-) " just the summer in the young blood" Brian PS. Does anyone know how Wally is doing with his recuperating? PSS Does anyone know places you can get out of print Joni sheet music? I am looking for Blue and have been told it's out of print. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 01:05:52 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: It's just summer in the young blood The best way to get a reply is to say something that someone is bound to disagree with! It isn't you it's the way the list is. I asked twice a while ago now who some guy was in a Joni video and still no one has ever let me know! Don't take it personally. And at least you haven't had nasty flames going your way! bw colin Chilihead2@aol.com wrote: > Geez guyz and galz, > > I send you all my coveted Sangria recipe and asked a Trivia question. I got > only one reply. What does it take to break into this list? I am skilled at > clever repartee and can chat like a courtesan or a sailor. I am still curious > to know what are Joni's fav foods--wines? Does anyone know? (and if you didn't > get the San Gria recipe, I would be happy to send it again). Thanks!! > ;-) > > " just the summer in the young blood" Brian > PS. Does anyone know how Wally is doing with his recuperating? > PSS Does anyone know places you can get out of print Joni sheet music? I am > looking for Blue and have been told it's out of print. Thanks! - -- Daily Affirmations: I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper and complain. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:14:01 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Happy Trails In a message dated 98-07-06 18:06:50 EDT, RickieLee1@aol.com writes: << what's gonna happen to poor old stuffed trigger? i want him! i saw roy live and in person, on trigger (i don't recall if dale was there or not) when i was about 5 or 6, in my full roy rogers regalia (i had the entire outfit, except for the boots) and actually met the man himself. >> I recall the AP story when Trigger died and AP reported that Roy was going to have his horse stuffed and mounted. Roy also said at that time that when he died he wanted to be stuffed and mounted on Trigger. Then Dale was asked what her postmortem plans for herself were .... ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 19:23:57 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni On Letterman Tuesday Rock On TV Reports Joni on David Letterman tomorrow (Tuesday the 7th of July). It is a re-run, but it's still fun. Best, Michael NP-Joe's Garage-Uncle Frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:48:35 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: It's just summer in the young blood > I send you all my coveted Sangria recipe and asked a Trivia question. I got > only one reply. What does it take to break into this list? Hey Chili - I loved your Sangria recipe. You probably did not get much response because as you said it's: > " just the summer in the young blood" and people were too busy trying out the recipe while partying. Maybe, next time you might try coming up with a recipe we could argue over ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 19:56:38 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Thinking of you Wally Hi Wally- Hope you are up in around and feeling better. I am looking forward to seeing posts and work on the page from you real soon. We continue to need you. You have been in my thoughts more than usual today because my dad had a biopsy done today in Ft. Lauderdale. It appears he has some growths on his esophagus and also on his prostate.(both ends, go figure) He had a narrowing in his throat as well which they blessfully opened up wider for him, so he can stop the choking thing he has been going thru. He is 81 on August 2, so it appears that surgery is unlikely for him. It appears that he may have some type of radiation treatment that involves injections every 16 weeks (which I am not very familiar with at all). I talked to him this afternoon via the phone and he sounds afraid and worried (also a little dopey). He kept talking about how much he has to do down in Honduras. It made me so sad, but as usual I am an optimist and feel like he can beat this thing just like you can. He is already talking about losing some weight and getting in shape. I pray today for both of you and know that your spirits will prevail. Rock on brother! Peace and love, Michael np-Fumbling Towards Ecstacy-Sarah Mc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:09:54 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: It's just summer in the young blood In a message dated 7/6/98 8:06:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chilihead2@AOL.COM writes: << PSS Does anyone know places you can get out of print Joni sheet music? >> Hi Chilihead, Sorry I didn't respond to your previous letter, but I'm not much of a drinker. On the other hand, I too am always on the search for old sheet music. So...let me know if you find anything and I'll do the same. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:07:18 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Smoking (tangential JC) Mary P. wrote: > I firmly believe that, for some people and under some conditions, > nicotine is every bit as addicting as heroin, if not more so. The > problem is that you can never be sure before beginning whether you've > been blessed with "the luck of the draw", as I seemed to be, or not. Welcome back Mary! I have heard that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, but also have friends who can smoke a cigarette occasionally without getting hooked. I think that the behavioral aspect of the habit (blowing smoke, something to do with your hands, etc.) also contributes greatly to the addiction and this is probably why people continue to smoke even while on the patch and getting their nicotine fix. Marsha related a story that Joni told during one of the taping nights about how she went to a guru (as opposed to Hawaiian Kahuna) in Colorado once to rid herself of all the needless baggage of ego, etc. The guru was very helpful and she gained much enlightenment but nothing could be done to affect her smoking habit. Joni was fatalistic and said that she realized that "smoking to me is as natural as breathing and eating." I thought that Joni must get constant flak about smoking for her to tell this little anecdote during the taping. She puffed surreptiously on a cig as she told it. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:12:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE:NJC Smoking Mary P. wrote: >I am not a doctor, and my take on smoking is admittedly unscientific and >unprofessional. However, I think nicotine addiction may be similar to >alcoholism, in that it's possible that some people simply carry more >risk factors--genetic, environmental, and/or psychological--for starting >the behavior in the first place To this day, and I quit 5 years ago, I still dream that I light a cigarette and wake up with the utmost feeling of guilt. I heard that the addiction progresses even if you're not smoking or drinking or whatever it is you've quit. According to this theory, if I started smoking again today, I'd pick up where I left off, so to speak-- that is, I'd be smoking two and a half packs a day again in a matter of days. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:18:10 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Solid love >Seventeen years of Solid Love. I wish we could all have that. >colin So do I Colin. Love to you and John, the perfect knight in a shining armor. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 03:23:33 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Solid love Wally Kairuz wrote: > >Seventeen years of Solid Love. I wish we could all have that. > >colin > > So do I Colin. > Love to you and John, Thanks Wally. > the perfect knight in a shining armor. well, being a millionaire would've helped! > > > WallyK - -- Daily Affirmations: I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper and complain. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:34:24 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: A dream come true..part 3 (long) Happy Birthday to our Wirly Pearl! Julie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:33:21 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Rather Disturbing "Lesson In Survival" (NJC but GC) Something truly awful happened to me at around 1:30 am last night caused by the crown prince of the royal fuckups. But you might know him better as Griffin. Another Lesson in Survival. Spinning out on turns, that gets you tough and all that. I seem to be getting quite a few of them lately. I don't want to thrust my private life at you all, but I think you should know about this since it was really a hard moment for me. I was just emotionally shattered. And I'm still smarting from it. But now I'm pissed off too. This is what happened: I had called Griffin on friday because I wanted to know if he wanted to come see "A Chorus Line", like he said he would at the now seemingly far-away eighth grade graduation. At the point he couldn't talk but he said he'd call me back. And did he ever. At Sunday, I was just about ready to slide into sleep at 1:30 when the phone rang. I knew exactly who it was. No one else would call me at 1:30 am. So I picked up the phone and it was Griffin (though I wasn't sure at first and still am not, but I figure that's just the abused senseless wife-victim part of me who's struggling to excuse his behavior). I said to him,"You sound different." And he said,"Oh that's because I'm drunk." Then he let loose a series of insults that just ripped my heart into pieces. "mariana you're so fucking ugly, mariana you bitch, get the fuck out of my fucking life mariana." that's basically what it came down to. At first I was confused, "What are you saying?" and "Why are you being so mean?". Then he hung up. I began to cry. He called again and the same thing happened. I flipped on my CD player and turned up the Foo Fighters really loud and placed the phone near the speaker. He hung up. Four times he called me and did the same thing. I kept answering because I didn't want my parents to wake up. I heard female laughter in the background. It was bad enough when I was ripping myself up...now he was ripping me up. When he finally stopped calling, I was suffering so badly. I grabbed the picture I have of him and looked at his smiling face and wondered how someone who had once been so sweet to be could just be so mean. I took the postcard I got at the Lilith Fair and repeated it's message to myself: "I am so fucking beautiful. I will not be beaten. I will not be abused. I will be strong. I will be heard." I kept saying this to myself while I washed my face and brushed my hair. I said to myself, "I never did a thing to him. I don't deserve this. He has absoulutely no excuse. What a fucker. I'm the best girl he will ever even get and this is how he's treating me?" Then I would break down and think, "It's the drink talking. He's always been so nice." When that part of me starts rising up again, I remind myself of those abused wives who say, "Oh but he's really nice when he hasn't been drinking." I will not be a victim. I really needed someone to talk to, but what could I do at 1:30 am? I plugged in Court and Spark and let the twee Joni fairie do her work. I listened to "Down To You" twice, then to "Trouble Child" and then "Twisted". 'Old friends seem indifferent...' but I *did not* bring that on. "Old bonds have broken down, love is gone." I couldn't sleep after that, so I just lay down listening to Joni and hugging my comfort doll Cookie whom I've had since I was just a baby. I drifted into sleep at about 3:40 am which gave me 4 hours of sleep that night. I got up to get ready for "A Chorus Line" and was more pissed off so I listened to Paula Cole before heading off to school. I got there early and poured my heart out to Davida. She told me the same thing I'm sure all you will tell me: behavior like that did not come out of anything I did, it came out of him. If he ever does that again I should just say,"I don't know who you think you are or who you think I am. But I'm going to hang up now and you're going to call me back when you're able to talk to me like I'm a human being." She also told me something I already knew. His family is screwed up. But that absoulutely does not excuse his behavior. So in the meantime, I'm going to have fun and shine like the sun and be strong and laugh along and laugh it all away because I deserve it dammit. To think I raked myself over the coals for him. Your arms beneath me Your lying inside me I used to love your every little every little thing Your eyes blue stars Your hand in my purse And now I hate your every little everything all day Oh momma I didn't know life was this hard Oh momma My innocence has been torn My inner vision, dulled and darkened I keep myself away to you I fuck my sorrow humbly And throw my crown upon the ground It's you I hope for And us I pray for And me that I believed was wrong But now my anger is my best friend Be careful may bite your head off -Paula Cole mariana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:12:08 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Solid love Colin - I am so happy for you and John! Cheers (clink*) to another 17 years! Regards Heather (it's been 15 for us) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:17:21 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Computer enlisted in Michelangelo sculpture mystery--NJC At 07:55 PM 7/6/98 -0500, you wrote: - -- >which was used on the Michelangelo project. It's been quite thrilling >actually. We got 2100 hits on our web site the day the article appeared in >the NYTIMES, one being from Lucas Films. Jon is going to be interviewed for >the Discovery Channel as a result....... > Julie - I'm so proud of you guys! This is teriffic! Please let us know when the Discovery Channel will air the interview. I'm into art restoration and preservation so, I have a particular interest in your invention .. Huge Hugs! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:40:44 -0400 (EDT) From: picard3@webtv.net (Sherelle Smith) Subject: A stranger comes to call (SJC) Hi Everyone! I've been trying to catch up on digests for the past two weeks. Since I've started this new job, my whole world (including my Joni world) has changed. If I'm reading correctly , it looks like Joni will definately be playing at Woodstock as well as in Chicago. That's really great! I'm sorry I won't be able to attend either concert, but I will count on my fellow JMDL'ers to fill me in. I also have not read any updates on Wally. My prayers are with him. As far as this list goes, it has been so strange for me to have something that was once almost a waking part of my existence relegated to a catch-up project whenever I can find the time. I feel a tremendous sense of loss and confusion. The company I work for is a very fast growing institution, and even though it's been around for ten years, getting in when I did is still considered being on the ground floor. There are so many opportunities for advancement, even though things are done quite fairly and the people here are quite nice, the competion is extremely fierce. I've bitten the bullet on a couple of very good promotions which have made me begin to wonder if I have indeed made the right career decision. Each time I was so very close to getting the job, but there were 65 applicants for 4 positions, each one qualified to do the job. (but God forbid that I should go back to selling perfume!!!) It seems like I could always turn to the JMDL for interaction and support which helped me get by. It's very hard not to be able to do that rigt now. At 40 years old, I'm trying to establish myself in the business world, and let me tell you, it's very scary. I feel like this is my Heijra, my time of self-introspection. no matter which way things go for me, they will never be the same. (Oh for an appropriate Joni lyiric at this time!) Another note for those of you who are new here: Those on this list have more of a connection to each other than can be readily seen. No matter how many disagreements there may be, ( and there are always many, for this is how the machinery works), many of us can remember how we did find "comfort in melancholy" with Joni's music and how her brutal honesty about her life and her relationships gave us the courage to get through our own. No matter how much we disagree, when we remember what really brought us together, everything else seems so pale in comparison. So I have stayed up past my bedtime to write you this note. (I am NOT a morning person!) I miss all of you and will write when I can. Now, to coin Ken Slarty's phrase, I must go "back to the shadows again." Take care all. Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 20:52:43 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: SJC Re: It's just summer in the young blood Chilihead2@aol.com wrote: > Geez guyz and galz, > > I send you all my coveted Sangria recipe and asked a Trivia question. I got > only one reply. What does it take to break into this list? Don't take it personaly - please! I can only speak for myself but it takes almost all my "spare" time just to wade through the multitudes of posts, much less find time to reply, especially since I went away for one week and returned to 650 posts. Thank god for NJC notations! I believe Joni ate tomato soup and a tuna salad sandwich when she had lunch with Les. She said one of the things she cooks well is "apple oink" which is a roast pork recipe of hers. Hey Duane - how did your version come out? Could you post the recipe? She obviously has an attraction to German wine. Phyliss, getting warmed up for her letter to Oprah... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Fractures for our Time (NJC) from *The Stinky Cheese Man*, modern kids' book: The Giant's Story [for more on why he tells it, read the book]: The End of the evil Stepmother said "I'll huff and I'll puff and give you three wishes." The beast changed into seven dwarfs happily ever after for a spell had been cast by a Wicked Witch Once upon a time * Cinderumpelstiltskin or The Girl Who Really Blew It Once upon a time there was a beautiful girl named Cinderella who lived with her wicked stpmother and two ugly stepsisters. These steprelatives were not only wicked and ugly - - they made Cinderella clean the house every day. One day the local prince announced that he was holding a fabulous ball at his castle. Everyone was invited. The stepmother and stepsisters got all dressed up to go. But, as usual, they made Cinderella clean the house, so she didn't have time to get ready. After the stepmother andy stepsisters left for the ball, Cinderella sat down and began to cry. Just then a little man appeared. "Please don' cry," he said. "I can help you spin straw into gold." "I don't think that will do me much good," said Cinderella. "I need a fancy dress, glass slippers, and a coach." Would you like to try to guess my name?" said the clever little man. Cinderella looked at him. "No. Not really." "Come on. Do you think it's 'Chester'?" "If you don't have a dress, it doesn't really matter." "Oh, just guess a name, any name." "I'm not supposed to talk to strangers," said Cinderella. The she closed the door and left the little man standing outside screaming, "RUMPELSTILTSKIN! RUMPELSTILTSKIN! RUMPELSTILTSKIN!" When the stepmother and stepsisters got home from the ball, Cinderella told them about the strange little man. They still made her clean the house. And meaner still, they changed her name to Cinderumpelstiltskin. The End. * I guess the original Grimms' are even more peculiar. TR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:53:00 EDT From: Bmcd@aol.com Subject: Etiquette Schmetiquette Rickie Lee, as I read from Digest 235 (yes, laaaast Thursday) I gotta say, I love ya! Yes I do, I love ya. I swear on the stars above I do...... You are right on and I love that you're not afraid to say it how you feel it. BTW, my drug of choice is Zoloft : D Oops, probably shouldn't have spilled that, next thing you know we'll be reading about our own mums. thought I'd stay lurking, but I guess I just can't. Yours in jonispirit, Karen Mc ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #243 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?