From: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V3 #240 Reply-To: Sender: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, July 5 1998 Volume 03 : Number 240 The Official 1998 Joni Mitchell Internet Community Shirts are available now. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/ for all the details. ------- The New England Labor Day Weekend JoniFest is coming soon! Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- Trivia buffs! We are compiling an in-depth trivia database on all things Joni. Send your bit of trivia - or your questions you would like answered - to ------- And don't forget about JoniFest 1999! Reserve your spot with a $25 fee. Only 100 rooms have been reserved. Send a blank message to for more info. ------- The Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Joni's paintings, original essays, lyrics and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at and contains Joni-related interviews, articles, member gallery, info on the archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Michael Hedges (SJC) [Thomas Ross ] JM photo in "Premiere" ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: The 10th World-A Pondering [Heather ] Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. [Heather ] Re: The 10th World-A Pondering ["Mark Domyancich" ] Re: Horse w/No Name--NJC..attempt at interp. [BH1248@aol.com] NJC "4th of July" by X [BH1248@aol.com] Re: Eve of Independence [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: The 10th World-A Pondering [IVPAUL42@aol.com] NJC! Aimee Mann [Linda Brady ] Re: NJC! Aimee Mann [BH1248@aol.com] Re: Horse w/No Name--NJC..attempt at interp. [catman ] JC: Joni lyrics on madness [Kate Tarasenko ] How's Wally [Leslie Mixon ] Re: The 10th World-A Pondering [Gellerray@aol.com] Re: Horse NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: The 10th World-A Pondering [Michael Heath ] Horse w/ no name (NJC) [Seanapper@aol.com] NJC out in the 10th world last night? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. ["Deb Messling" ] Happy 4th and some news.... [Marilune@aol.com] Nelson Mandela's words [Bmcd@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 06:36:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Ross Subject: Re: Michael Hedges (SJC) Just a note about Michael. I may have written a version of this to the list a couple of years ago so please bear with me. My encounter with him was: he approached my partner, Jody Cormack, after a concert of South Indian music she and her husband (flutist T Viswanathan) in the Bay Area, asking for her autograph (!) and expressing a wish to learn from her or Viswa. He knew about them because Joel B had given him a copy of the record *Horse of Stone*, which he was crazy about. Later he rang me up in Schenectady and came over. I hadn't heard his music to this point. We had dinner and he played, quite beautifully, first on my D'Angelico (archtop) and then on the Gallagher (dreadnought). I thought the basslines were hip. I played a bit with him but it seemed very selfcontained. Our techniques are very different: me with the (teacher Johnny Smith's) 'dropped D' tuning only, flatpick with some fingers (thus mostly line-driven), he with many tunings, no pick (thus more polyphonic). I played him the guitar part to a song, Many Hearts, which he seemed to like - - at that time the new songs were still slumbering and I was mostly doing wacky homestudio stuff. We also sat and I taught him some basics of South Indian vocal and rhythm, which he recorded. He tried to get us a Windham Hill contract, to no avail. Later I sent him new songs which I think he liked. He had some good advice about the music biz and complained that the company had rejected the singing on an album of his. I thought he sang really nicely. Later I heard the records! Beautiful. But the house concert was the only time I heard him live. Truly a loss! At least he's inspired a number of younger players to pursue this style. Not surprised he liked Bartok. Good instance of using extensive music training (composition at Peabody) to make a music that (although maybe 'popular' is too far) reached many people. Tom Ross The Cormack & Ross Band's new CD 'global jazz songs' album *HORSE of STONE*, made possible by David Crosby, has excerpts and info at http://www.barncard.com/cormack-ross.html Mizazi Recordings Box 542 Middletown, CT 06457 "Sublime. . . fascinating vocal interplay, virtuoso instrumental work and deeply creative songwriting that blends classical Asian styles with contemporary and traditional Western motifs. . . had this actually been released and recognized when it was recorded, today's music might have a wholly different sound." J. Eric Smith, METROLAND ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 07:54:03 -0500 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: JM photo in "Premiere" Wally, (how are you doing?,) and all, The August issue of "Premiere" movie magazine, with Ben Affleck on the cover, has a photo of David Geffen and Joni at Studio 54 in an article to promote the upcoming movie, "Studio 54." -JulieZW, hoping you have a safe night ride home on this Fourth of July ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 10:42:45 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: The 10th World-A Pondering At 07:43 AM 7/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone! > >The 10th World-Planet X (AKA, the planet after Pluto)? > Mark - is that suppose to be the planet Vulcan - true planet of Virgo's?? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 11:36:00 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. At 07:12 PM 7/2/98 EDT, you wrote: > >I'd be interested in hearing how other folks on this list handle situations >similar to my own...I mean we all can't be lucky enough to be partnered with >other Joni devotees, can we?? Does anyone else have to contend with "Joni >Free Weekends"?? Does anyone else think their partner might be just a little >bit jealous of their obession with the Godess? I've often wondered about this >stuff... > Ted - YES! My family still gives me lots of "eye rolls" whenever I mention Joni, play her music or make links to Joni concerning everyday events (you know, like using Joni's lyrics to describe things). My daughter collects pig paraphernalia and my husband likes penguins. When they ask me what I like to collect and I say "Joni Mitchell paraphernalia" .... oh no .... more "eye rolls" :-) Well, Ted, I have gotten alot of support from this list on this matter and all I can say is "your not alone". Thanks to this list, I can share my admiration and love of Joni's music with others who have the same enthusiasm. Gee, my husband said he would go to a Joni Mitchell concert with me ... hmmm ... is there hope? Thanks to all on this list! Heather np: what are words for - Missing Persons ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:40:08 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: re: Eve of Independence Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 01:08:29 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Sue Cameron wrote > I think about Night > Ride Home and the way the lyrics paint such a picture. Was making a "Meet Joni Mitchell" tape for a friend yesterday and heard the song in the same way--with new ears for the holiday. Also taken off the CD shelf for the occasion, Aimee Mann's "4th of July," from her first solo album, Whatever. Same holiday, opposite emotion (to quote Aimee): Today's the fourth of July another June has gone by and when they light up our town I just think what a waste of gunpowder and sky I'm certain I am alone . . . Doesn't X have a 4th of July song too ? Happy picnicing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 10:52:05 -0500 From: "Mark Domyancich" Subject: Re: The 10th World-A Pondering I'm not exactly sure just what Joni meant by the 10th world-9 planets? Are you talking about the Vulcan planet, like in Star Trek? Planet X was actually a planet discovered by astronomers years ago. But Joni wrote it in 1977, and I don't think Planet X was known about way back then. Joni, put away that crystal ball! Happy 4th of July, fellow Americans! Hi everyone! <> <>The 10th World-Planet X (AKA, the planet after Pluto)? <> >No Name by America is about. I have been puzzled by this song for years.>> <..............It's about plants and birds and rocks and things. -Fred > <.............. I've got it! It's like the Seinfeld show; it's about nothing. Paul I >> LOL One of my employees asked me this years ago so I dug out my notes. The song is a journey through harsh conditions, aka life. Verse 1 simply describes the environment while verse 2 shows the journey getting rougher. Verse 2 contains the sarcastic twist on "desert sun" using the word "fun" instead. In the third and last verse, water/the sea is finally found but it's just another form of desert. Even though the terrain has changed it's still the same as the songwriter repeats two lines "There were plants and birds and rocks and things/There was sand and hills and rings." This last image of the "ocean is a desert" is then applied in the key lines "under the cities lies a heart made of ground/But the humans will give no love". I take this as referring to man's alienation from the environment and each other, and suggests the earth has much to offer if the potential was recognizable. The chorus seems to refer to the solace of the journey (I've been throught the desert on a horse with no name...) as an escape (It felt good to be out of the rain....) where clarity of self is possible, (In the desert you can remember your name...) where one "can remember" your name; the horse's name is apparently irrelevant since it is, simply transportation, that is, a means to an end. This seems to agree with the third verse where the horse is set free and no longer useful in the journey "cause the desert had turned to sea". This last idea informs the title of the song "A Horse with no Name". I suppose the songwriter is making an ironic point by elevating the least important element of the journey to the title. Therefore, I would summarize by saying the song is about recognizing what's important in life's journey. Then again, I could be wrong! I leave it to critics whether the song is "good" or "bad". Bob NP: Liz Phair "Exile in Guyville" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:19:27 EDT From: BH1248@aol.com Subject: NJC "4th of July" by X Someone asked: << Doesn't X have a 4th of July song too ? >> Yes, It's "4th of July" from "See How We Are" (1987). "4th of July " By X (apparently this one was written by Dave Alvin not Doe/Cervenka) She's waitin' for me when I get home from work oh, but things ain't just the same She turns out the light and cries in the dark won't answer when I call her name On the stairs I smoke a cigarette alone Mexican kids are shootin' fireworks below Hey baby, it's the Fourth of July Hey baby, it's the Fourth of July She gives me her cheek when I want her lips but I don't have the strength to go On the lost side of town in a dark apartment we gave up trying so long ago On the stairs I smoke a cigarette alone Mexican kids are shootin' fireworks below Hey baby, it's the Fourth of July Hey baby, it's the Fourth of July What ever happened I apologize so dry your tears and baby walk outside, it's the Fourth of July On the stairs I smoke a cigarette alone Mexican kids are shootin' fireworks below Hey baby, it's the Fourth of July Hey baby, Baby take a walk outside Bob NP: Crowded House "Together Alone" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:20:07 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Eve of Independence In a message dated 98-07-04 11:49:40 EDT, les@jmdl.com writes: <> Fourth of July songs I know. Please add to the list Almost Independence Day -- Van Morrison Of Missing Persons -- Jackson Browne Night Ride Home -- Joni Mitchell Fourth of July, Asbury Park (Sandy) -- Bruce Springsteen & the E St. Band ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:22:23 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: The 10th World-A Pondering In a message dated 98-07-04 11:53:34 EDT, Harpua@revealed.net writes: << -9 planets? Are you talking about the Vulcan planet, like in Star Trek? Planet X was actually a planet discovered by astronomers years ago. But Joni wrote it in 1977, and I don't think Planet X was known about way back then. >> Planet X was hypothesized by astronomers as far back as Isaac Newton and Tyco Brahe, if I recall by astronomy studies. It was theorized based on the relative orbits and masses of the planets and the sun. So long before it was "discovered," it existed in some minds and in the scientific community. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:25:53 +0100 From: Linda Brady Subject: NJC! Aimee Mann So thrilled to hear another Joniphile likes Aimee Mann. If y'all haven't heard her solo stuff, I highly recommend her. She sings with the same kind of honesty that Joni does. Really good pop. I seem to remember reading an interview with Joni in the mid 80s about how she liked Aimee and thought she was a kindered spirit of some sort...help...anybody read that? I think it was "Musician" mag. Linda > Also taken off the CD shelf for the occasion, Aimee Mann's "4th of > July," from her first solo album, Whatever. Same holiday, opposite > emotion (to quote Aimee): > > Today's the fourth of July > another June has gone by > and when they light up our town I just think > what a waste of gunpowder and sky > I'm certain I am alone . . . > > Doesn't X have a 4th of July song too ? > > Happy picnicing. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:31:28 EDT From: BH1248@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC! Aimee Mann In a message dated 98-07-04 13:25:46 EDT, you write: << So thrilled to hear another Joniphile likes Aimee Mann. >> Absolutely. I have been playing Til Tuesday's "Welcome Home" a lot lately--back in heavy rotation. It really doesn't have a weak song on it and the songs show the potential of "pop" music--accessible but artistic and beautifully performed. Her voice is so damn good, too. (Bet she doesn't smoke --ha). Bob NP: still Crowded House ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 19:11:45 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Horse w/No Name--NJC..attempt at interp. Wasn't there a 70's film called Horse With No Name? With Richard Harris or someone? colin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:21:48 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: i was winding my clock (teeny joni content) i love aimee mann though for some reason i have cooled a little lately--maybe i needed someone like you and the list to rekindle, as i cooled on so many things in this last year of my life...long, personal ( relentlessly personal, me) story...but i love aimee mann, and you are right, joni spoke with some seeming knowledge and affection for aimee's essence--her honesty and approach--in a musician mag article in the eighties--it may have been as long ago as the dog eat dog era. yep--i just checked--it's december 1985! yowser! i grow up, i grow old! i especially liked discovering "everything's different now" by aimee (were they still 'til tuesday then?)--that was a great time and a great discovery. there is a little hat trick of songs on it, beginning with, i think, the third song (i can' t check because i finally threw my cd out so frustrated was i by the skips on it), with, I think, J for Jules in the middle (of the said "hat trick"). it is stunning, as i remember--breathtaking. Oh, J for Jules--o rapture!--i remember it as so so beautiful and sad. and on the subsequent albums there are always some killer ballads and all around good work--better than "good" i mean. i'm gonna pull out "whatever" and "i'm with stupid" right now in fact and spin 'em--right after lucinda! NP: LUCINDA! (car wheels on a gravel road) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 13:41:49 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Horse NJC Paul wrote: I've got it! It's like the Seinfeld show; it's about nothing. Paul I I like this answer. Also Bob, that is pretty thought out stuff. Thank you for your thoughts. Best, Michael NP-The World Cup Croatia vs. Germany ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 12:52:05 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: JC: Joni lyrics on madness Hi, JamieJake from London -- Thanks for your suggestion from "Two Grey Rooms": "No one knows I'm here One day I just disappeared And I took these two grey rooms up here with a view..." The subject of my videodoc is a recluse and lives on his own in a dank apartment, so these lines would be appropriate. Thanks for your ear. Our 'Day in the Garden' list is growing! Anyone else out there planning to come to Bethel, NY? Check out garden@jmdl.com if you are. Hello and good health-and-spirit vibes to Wally. And thanks again to Jim and Leslie for conveying our thoughts and prayers. Stayin' outta the heat, Kate in CO ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 11:49:29 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: How's Wally There was an email to the list recently asking, "How's Wally." All I can honestly say is that the toughest times are yet to come. Wally will be starting radiation and chemotherapy in about two weeks. Please keep the emails and cards coming in - they really cheer him up - and he needs that now more than ever. Thank you for caring. Leslie Leslie Mixon stevem@cruzio.com http://www.cruzio.com/~stevem ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:10:45 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: The 10th World-A Pondering o god, i am so list unsophist. i am such a rube in terms of list et(iquette). just jumping into strands and threads willy-nilly. but anyway, don't know much astronomy, don't know much biology (though i am studying some now and it does seem, among other things, to be increasing my sense of metaphor which is lovely--it has me thinking in a large, abstract way) BUT ANYWAY, I always thought that Tenth World music was a charity that joni set up because i first remember seeing it listed as the publishing co. for ethiopia. and i thought, hmm, rather than third world, she thinks these poor people live in the tenth world! (conditions). that's what i always thought. what do you think--now that i said that? raymond np--the traffic outside my fourth of july window ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:08:47 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Horse NJC Michael wrote: > Paul wrote: > I've got it! It's like the Seinfeld show; it's about nothing. > Paul I > > I like this answer. > > Also Bob, that is pretty thought out stuff. Thank you for your thoughts. This reminded me of a few years back when a musician friend who used to work with Beckley and Bunnell asked me what I thought the song was about. I went into a long analysis similar to Bob's. At the end of my discourse my friend laughed and said "No, the song is about *nothing*!" I couldn't believe it and argued with him how it was obviously a very metaphoric song. He just kept laughing and said that Bunnell himself always cracked up that people thought it had any meaning. Think I'll forward this thread to my friend! America still is performing out here - they just played in Fresno and another friend, Harold Payne, opened for them. Kakki NP: Ventura Highway - America ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 12:35:26 -0700 From: Michael Heath Subject: Re: The 10th World-A Pondering yes, I always thought it meant people living so far outside first world realities that third world just wouldn't come close to describing their circumstances. Gellerray@aol.com wrote: > o god, i am so list unsophist. i am such a rube in terms of list et(iquette). > just jumping into strands and threads willy-nilly. but anyway, don't know > much astronomy, don't know much biology (though i am studying some now and it > does seem, among other things, to be increasing my sense of metaphor which is > lovely--it has me thinking in a large, abstract way) BUT ANYWAY, I always > thought that Tenth World music was a charity that joni set up because i first > remember seeing it listed as the publishing co. for ethiopia. and i thought, > hmm, rather than third world, she thinks these poor people live in the tenth > world! (conditions). that's what i always thought. what do you think--now > that i said that? > > raymond > > np--the traffic outside my fourth of july window ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:12:13 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC! Aimee Mann >So thrilled to hear another Joniphile likes Aimee Mann Has there been any new stuff after "I'm with stupid". I liked Til Tuesday too, Aimee's first band. Do you remember "Love in a vacuum"? WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 16:19:52 EDT From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: Horse w/ no name (NJC) Nice interpretation of "A Horse With No Name," Bob! I have heard this song forever and have even attempted it on the guitar (with very poor results, as I play and sing terribly). I had always assumed the song was about a drug trip or a drug addiction ("horse" being an old slang word for heroin). The imagery in the song moves from lush and green (drug euphoria) to barren and isolated (fighting the addiction, withdrawal), and finally to a sort of combination of the two: "the ocean is a desert with its life underground and the perfect disguise above." Here, the ocean representing the subconscience or one's emotions. Toward the end of the song when he "finds" this ocean and sees what is in it (discovers what's inside himself), he finds his answers. That's when he lets the horse go. But a lot of my interpretation of the song doesn't quite fit. So I think I like your interpretation better, Bob! I also like the possibility that it doesn't mean anything at all. Happy 4th to all! ...Neil in Seattle ***************** Bob wrote: "...the horse's name is apparently irrelevant since it is, simply transportation, that is, a means to an end. This seems to agree with the third verse where the horse is set free and no longer useful in the journey "cause the desert had turned to sea". This last idea informs the title of the song "A Horse with no Name". I suppose the songwriter is making an ironic point by elevating the least important element of the journey to the title. Therefore, I would summarize by saying the song is about recognizing what's important in life's journey." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:35:21 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: NJC out in the 10th world last night? I have the impression that none of my posts made it to the list last night. In turn, I received no more than 5 or 6. Was there any problem or was anybody out celebrating? Just in case, happy Independence Day again to all of you that are celebrating. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:54:06 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC out in the 10th world last night? Wally K wrote: > I have the impression that none of my posts made it to the list last night. > In turn, I received no more than 5 or 6. Only saw your test post. >Was there any problem or was anybody out celebrating? Yeah, word is a giant M-80 hit smoe.org Happy 4th! Kakki, going to find fireworks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 20:40:57 +0000 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. Today at the family picnic I had to contend with my sister saying Joni's voice is destroyed and my niece saying more succinctly, "Joni SUCKS now. She sounds like a man." My sister wants to go to the Garden concert. Do I want to spend that day with people who don't like Joni? I don't know. > YES! My family still gives me lots of "eye rolls" whenever I mention Joni, Deb Messling "Without music, life would be an error." --Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:29:30 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. At 08:40 PM 7/4/98 +0000, Deb Messling wrote: >My sister wants to go to the Garden concert. Do I want to spend >that day with people who don't like Joni? I don't know. Deb: Joni's recent performances prove beyond a doubt that she's still got it! You, and your sister, will be blown away by the incredible richness and depth of this latest version of the Joan. Scott P.S.: have a great time! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:38:00 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Fourth of July In a message dated 98-07-04 17:00:55 EDT, kakkib@att.net writes: << Kakki, going to find fireworks >> No fireworks here in North Florida desert. All fireworks have been banned here because of the drought. Though it did rain briefly here this afternoon, it was the first time in weeks and weeks. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 00:10:20 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Re: My absence in L.A., life partners & Joni, etc. In a message dated 7/4/98 8:43:26 AM, luvart@snet.net wrote: >At 07:12 PM 7/2/98 EDT, you wrote: >> >>I'd be interested in hearing how other folks on this list handle situations >>similar to my own...I mean we all can't be lucky enough to be partnered with >>other Joni devotees, can we?? Does anyone else have to contend with "Joni >>Free Weekends"?? Does anyone else think their partner might be just a little >>bit jealous of their obession with the Godess? I've often wondered about >this >>stuff... Not only do I get it from my family, I get it from friends too! My sister says I listen to stupid music and makes fun of Joni non-stop. I tell her that my music has integrity unlike her BS Celine Dion and No Doubt and other shyte that noone will remember in a year. It's funny though, she's always after me to lend her my Sarah McLachlan CDs (which I won't since I hate her) and she was so jealous she could barely see straight that I went to Lilith. My friends don't like it either. They're rather square and listen to the same music my sister does. But that's okay, because in two years, I'm out!!! "Alone+Easy Target" by: The Foo Fighters (I can relate!) they knew all along, they're not dumb, they were so wrong she's not always fun hate it now, call when I'm done pieces fell in place, puzzles suck,laughin my face turn and swing the pace I'll give this, keep the good waist head is on, I want out, I'm alone and I'm an easy target, metronome, I want out, I'm alone and I'm an easy target crazy t.v. dreams might be true not what it seems food and cavities, chewing words tear at the seam she don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that he should i don't feel so good, don't feel bad not that i should head is on, I want out, I'm alone and I'm an easy target, me tronome, I want out, I'm alone and I'm an easy target did you ever listen? get out. mariana NP: The Foo Fighters, -The Foo Fighters- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:27:47 -0400 From: Heather Subject: NJC - anyone in France? Do we have any JMDLers in France? Lurkers maybe? Please e-mail me privately. Thanks heather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 00:39:31 EDT From: Marilune@aol.com Subject: Happy 4th and some news.... First off let me wish happy fourth of july to everyone and just say, "Once in a while in a big blue moon..." You should know the rest. Now I've got some news and no, this does not concern Griffin at all (well, just a tiny bit but not in any big important way). In about two weeks, I'll be un-subscribing to the JMDL for 5 weeks or so. The reason for this is that I'm not going to be around and I don't want to boot up my computer to find my mailbox filled with 10 basquillion posts (no matter how much I enjoy the conversation, I really hate clutter...that's my Virgo side). First off, I'll be touring with "A Chorus Line" in Marin County for one week and then the day after I return, I'll be off to language school in Mexico for four weeks. I'll be taking along all the Joni I can, of course, and keeping a journal so I can recount all my misadventures and outrageous romances (with blonde surfer boy, right?). I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. I'm sort of looking forward to it (freedom from the 'rents!) and sort of not (I hate the 'rents forcing things on me). But in both cases, I'll be missing the JMDL loads. I'll take the time to get over Griffin and start 11th grade fresh, with a cheery outlook and a new hair color (hope hope hope, though the 'rents forbade me to do it, I'm going to attempt it in Mexico). I'll be back at the end of August and will promptly re-subscribe and tell you all the new things that have happened. happy 4th mariana NP: The Foo Fighters, -The Foo Fighters- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 01:21:26 EDT From: Bmcd@aol.com Subject: Nelson Mandela's words This may be "old news", but I just finished the digest where Marian quotes Nelson Mandela's magnificent words about each of our inner lights. FYI, that is from his 1994 inaugural speech. I have it printed on stationary a friend brought me from Venice, inexpensively matted and framed. I love it. Thanks Marian for bringing it to the list, it's an eloquent bit of language and belongs here. Yours in jonispirit, Karen Mc ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V3 #240 ************************** Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?