From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V7 #116 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Thursday, September 2 2004 Volume 07 : Number 116 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [MLL] Part Two, third attempt (2) [Recordings@aol.com] [MLL] Been A While (Archival) [Recordings@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:53:41 -0400 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Part Two, third attempt (2) On November 8, I went to see Hole at CBGBs. I had the "Retard Girl" single, and I had read an interview with them. I thought that the single was great, and the interview interesting. I was eager to see the band. During the set, Courtney began a song by dedicating it to Mary Lou Lord. I couldn't understand any of the words, so I didn't know what the song was about. After the band got off, I went to their dressing room. In the Hole interview which I had read, Courtney mentioned Nirvana as if Hole and Nirvana were old pals. I figured that she had met Mary Lou with Kurdt sometime on tour. I said to her: You dedicated a song to Mary Lou Lord. What was it about? She said, "It's about a girl who steals another girl's boyfriend". I said, "Kurdt?" She said, "You know Kurdt?" I told her that I had met him with Mary Lou. I said, "Kurdt's your boyfriend?" She said: Yeah. At that point, I began assuring her that Mary Lou had known nothing about her, and that she wouldn't have gone on tour with Kurdt if she had known that he had a girlfriend. She said: Well, it's not really like that. It's complicated. Because of the manner in which she said this, I took it to mean that Kurdt and her had been together, and that they were separated but had plans to get back together. I told Courtney that I had talked many times with Mary Lou about Kurdt, and that not once had she mentioned that Kurdt was seeing someone else, which she certainly would have, if she had known. (I found out later that Courtney and Kurdt had not hooked up until October of '91. In fact, the Chicago show, where they got together, was on the _same day_ that Mary Lou _left_ the US tour.) Courtney said, "She went to England with him! She went to England with him!" I said : Yeah, because he told her that he loved her and that he wanted to be with her. I told her about how Kurdt had told me to my face that he was in love with Mary Lou, and that I had witnessed him tell Mary Lou this as well. I said: If he is telling her this ! and goin g around telling everybody else, not only is it disrespectful to you, but how could Mary Lou ever suspect that he has a girlfriend. I said to Courtney that it was Kurdt's responsibility to tell Mary Lou about her, and to tell her about Mary Lou, and that he _didn't_ tell Mary Lou, so she shouldn't be blamed for what was going on. Courtney then admitted that she new for a fact that Mary Lou had not known about her until "just the other night". She had called England, and Kurdt and Mary Lou were together. She agreed that Kurdt should have told Mary Lou about her. She said, "He's such an asshole!" I told her that she should try to talk to Mary Lou herself and work it out, that Mary Lou was really easy going. She said again that she knew that it wasn't Mary Lou's fault, that it was Kurdt's fault, and that he was a fucking asshole. I told her that I really like her music, and I left. (TO BE CONTINUED) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:47:26 -0400 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Been A While (Archival) HERE'S AN AMUSING POST, GIVEN ML'S RECENT PHOTO SHOOT FOR FEMME FATALES... (1996) Subj: Been A While Date: 96-06-23 12:44:22 EDT From: Commelina Hey you guys...The time is going by so quickly it seems...Anyway, I hope thAT you guys are having a good summer...I'm looking for the right producer for my record now...I like John Leckie's work a lot as well as Joe Boyd and Buthch Vigg...If any of you guys have producer suggestions, please let me know..... I had a strange dream last night...I was in a magazine similar to the "Improper Bostonian" and someone had submitted a photo to them of me naked....Gross!....I had no control over it and everyone kept telling me they saw it....When I finally found a copy of it I wasn't naked at all...It also wasn't even me ....How very strange........................... Take Care Love, Mary Lou ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V7 #116 **********************************