From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V7 #7 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Thursday, January 22 2004 Volume 07 : Number 007 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [MLL] Off topic: SHAKE YOUR SHA SHA SHA (in New York, NY) ["Amy Emerman" ] [MLL] Elliott in RS ["Journey Bear" ] [MLL] Down Memory Lane to 2000 [Recordings@aol.com] [MLL] On Elliott [Bopst@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:34:51 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [MLL] Off topic: SHAKE YOUR SHA SHA SHA (in New York, NY) The series is reborn... CATHARSIS: A Night of Gut-Wrenching Poetry & Song at CAFFE SHA SHA 510 Hudson Street between W. 10th & Christopher (Take the 1 or 9 to Christopher and walk West to Hudson) THE LAST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, 8-10:15 pm Come with bells on! 1/27 - show includes Norman Salant, Athena Reich, Amy Emerman, Bruce Balmer, Sharon Edry, Melanie Athena & others to wow you and curl your toes 2/24 - includes Lola Johnson, Jendi Reiter, the gee-yorgeus sounds of RACHEL LOSHAK on voice and bass, Athena Reich, Amy Emerman, Jeremiah Birnbaum fresh with his arse back from London, Eric Schwartz doing a one-song teaser for his appearance the following month, Tim Robinson, Jack Hardy, Christina Ward and other amazing and beautiful souls... And in March look out for Laurie MacAllister, Eric Schwartz and others.. In April look out for Amy Speace and others... Remember, the LAST TUESDAY of every month at CAFFE SHA SHA, 8pm till the muses are tuckered out (actually, we have to stop by 10:30 the latest). See ya there! AMY :)))))) _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:01:29 -0500 From: "Journey Bear" Subject: [MLL] Elliott in RS There's a photo and news item in Rolling Stone #941, p. 14: Elliott Smith's Death A Mystery A report issued by the Los Angeles County Coroner's office on December 31st was inconclusive about the cause of Elliott Smith's death, which had initially been labeled a suicide. The singer/songwriter's body was discovered by his girlfriend in hi Los Angeles home on October 21st with two stab wounds to the chest. Toxicology tests revealed no signs of drugs or alcohol in Smith's system. According to a spokesman for the coroner's officem "The injuries ... could have been inflicted by himself or by another person." This is the first I've heard of TWO wounds. That would be some quick and determined work to be considered a suicide. I guess it's possible to stab oneself without killing oneself and then "succeed" on the second attempt, but still ... Didn't that pique the detectives' curiosity? Far be it from me to tell other people how to do their job, but what the hell!?! Sorry to dwell on such a grisly subject, but this news item didn't sit well with me. If Elliott had been a bigger star, I'll bet there would have been a more thorough and complete investigation. JB _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:31:32 -0500 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Down Memory Lane to 2000 Hi guys... I got a new computer at work that was somehow able to access four years of my old email, and I found this post from July 2000 after Mary Lou played Club Vinyl (which no longer exists.) >Mary Lou was very, very funny at several points during the show - at one point she played a song she'd half-written, then described how a friend pointed out where she'd gotten the idea - "Dude, I know that song!" "We're got tonight... who needs tomorrow... we've got tonight, babe... why don't you stay..." A Bob Seger tune! "That's why I can't write songs - there's too many of them in my head." ML had a blonde "fall" that I at first mistook for her real hair. She also wore these black shoes with MASSIVE 3-inch heels - and she was still tiny! Also tight black pants, a belt I've never seen, and a blue midriff-baring top (Ironically, the same one she was wearing in the Santa Monica video I showed her.) As always, she was beautiful, even if the lighting tended to be a little eccentric (at one point she had bright yellow hair and a blue face.) Since I'd been on such an intense MLL bender from 1995 to '98, it's been a while since I've really been playing MLL's records for pleasure (mostly I've been into the Beefheart GROW FINS box set)... so for me, even though most of the songs were familiar, it was like hearing them all anew... AIM LOW works better for me as a solo MLL tune than on the CD. It actually seems like a better song, not the 2nd rate Nick leftover I suspected it was... concentrating on the lyrics, it works. BRIDGE is perhaps my favorite MLL tune, and she played it at my request, but it was also the song she had the hardest time with (mostly the sliding barre chords in-between the verses.) It was great to hear it, but I have a recording from Santa Monica which absolutely gives me chills... I was also reminded what a fucking BRILLIANT song SOME JINGLE JANGLE MORNING is... the structure of that tune, so deceptively simple, is borderline genius, the way the verses keep changing chords, building and building to a supposed end... "...on a star" - then kicking in with a new, totally unexpected chorus, 'Because I LOOOOVE.... to watch you WALLLKKK...." and then the rockin' chords that underline the sad coda, "...the same WAY." And how many of us can't relate to the sentiments of that song? Before I'd even gotten the KRS single, I wanted to call MLL on the phone every waking moment because "God, I love the way she talks." And the unrequited lesson is so damned stark : "But there's NOTHING I can say to make you feel the same way." Man, that hurts! Sorry to babble, but you can imagine how high I am... Dino< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:26:38 EST From: Bopst@aol.com Subject: [MLL] On Elliott hey Dino...Aw...Thanks...How are you my friend? And how the hell are you Nadja? Dam...I still owe you a freakin' Hat!!! The days go buy sooo quickly....How about I send you one of my new records as a warmer? Send me your mailing address and I'll get one out to you asap .....*Nadja waits and waits....record arrives in August*...I know...I'm a loser!!!! Anyway, the record's coming out in Feb...Things are getting busy again...Phopto shoots, interviews....a Goddam tour that I don't know how the hell I'm gonna pull off...You know...The usual life of a 37 year old housewife..... Anyway...oh shit...that's right...I'm 38 ...Crap..... On a sadder note...We're all still bummed out about Elliott's passing...I did what I could to put my emotions to some sort of positive direction, but there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of him and miss him...I had been missing him when he was my friend, but I thought that there would come a day when we could hang out again and let by-gones be...The day will never come now, but there are always new friends to be made and maybe the friendships will for made through Elliott's music itself (there already have been actually)...And there's still a whole new generation now that need to know who he was and hear his incredible music...I'll always (as I did in the very beginning) continue to do my best to make sure he doesn't go unknown..... As for the recent information regarding his death, this is very hard for me to take..There was something regarding his death (as suicide) that I found a comfort in, because there was "relief"...It was something "he" wanted and obviously felt the need to do...I dunno..I never though he would ever do such a thing, but when I heard he had done it, I felt not ok, but that it was his descision...He had no children, no wife, friends yes, but no real responsibility like having a child....I thought well, he was in a pain that I will never understand , and I am not to judge his actions.... So now, hearing this new information, it really puts a whole new horrible slant on the eintire tragedy that it is anyway...I would prefer that he has killed himself over the thought that someone had taken him away from where he maybe finally wanted to be...It just seems so strange...He was clean, he was clothed, there were cuts on his hands...This is just too strange.... Perhaps there was something more to it than we know about...There's all kinds of things swimming through my head about this now...I know it doesn't matter...Than nothing can change anything enough to bring him back...I do feel that if there was any kind of foul-play, that at least his family...his mother and father, have the right to know, as they may perhaps carry a guilt for thier son's "suicide"...They have the right...They should know...Not necessarily the public..... Anything could have happened....His girl friend might have still been doing drugs behind his back, maybe she owed someone to money and couldn't tell Elliott she needed it (cause he would have known she was still on drugs), and maybe there was someone else involved ...Maybe she knows who did it and can't say...Maybe they were coming for "her" she locked herself in the bathroom...This is all the kind of shit I think about....It's horrible.... All I know is that I loved him and I hope the investigators and all involved figure this out...I hope I am wrong regarding these bogus theories that won't leave me alone...I hope it was him and his descision....His relief..This world is sometimes a fucked-up place.... Sorry about this guys....It's been building up for a while... Love to all... - -ML ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V7 #7 ********************************