From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V6 #59 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Thursday, October 30 2003 Volume 06 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [MLL] Elliott Smith Memorial Concert Planned [Cinnamon Brunmier Subject: Re: [MLL] Elliott Smith Memorial Concert Planned Actually, the Sound Eclectic Evening is on Nov 22 (and was already planned when this was announced). http://www.kcrw.org/see3/ featuring Beck, Damien Rice, Gary Jules, The Polyphonic Spree & Jurassic 5. I first heard about the Elliott Memorial show through the Beck email newsletter. All Tomorrow's Parties was rescheduled back in August to November 8 & 9. Elliott was on the line-up to play this show. That may be what you were thinking of...tho a diff lineup than Sounds Eclectic. I don't think any of the bands playing the Smith tribute will be at ATP. http://www.atpfestival.com/events/line_up.php?event=2 Everything is happening around the same time, so definitely confusing. XoX--Cin > From: SeanJordan@aol.com > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:38:48 EST > To: jinglejangle@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [MLL] Elliott Smith Memorial Concert Planned > > In a message dated 10/28/2003 4:36:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, K3285@aol.com > writes: > >> Beck, Bright Eyes and Beth Orton are among the artists who will perform >> Nov. >> 3 during a memorial concert for late singer/songwriter Elliott Smith. Set >> for >> the Henry Fonda Theatre in Los Angeles, the event will feature performances >> of >> only Smith's songs. Also slated to appear are Grandaddy, Radar Bros, Rilo >> Kiley, Future Pigeon and as-yet-unannounced special guests. > > Am I wrong or was this show already scheduled, with Smith playing, as a KCRW > ecclectic evening or something -- Or was he playing on Matt Groening's All > Tomorow's Parties and I'm just thinking of that? It's great that they've this > will be going to the charity and will be done in his honor; I dont see how > they > could've done otherwise. > > THIS CONCERT IS ALSO NOT SOLD OUT -- More tickets will go on sale Wednesday > at noon at www.ticketweb.com. > > Finally, in trying to find the original name of the show, I came across some > quotes about Smith's passing at beck.com... > > "I heard the news this morning that Elliott Smith had passed away. It is a > terrible loss for myself and many of my friends, who knew, worked and hung out > with him. Needless to say he was one of the best songwriters of our day and a > formidable musician. He was also soft spoken, intelligent and extremely > humble. > He had an acute sense of justice. At one of my shows last year he tried to > intervene with security who were harrassing a kid, and was in turn beaten and > arrested by them. We know hebs had his struggles over the years and I was > heartened by word that he was on an upswing and preparing a new album. We even > talked a few times about getting together and making some music when I got off > tour. Nobody was to know what would happen, but I am grateful for the times we > got > to tour and hang out together. He will be missed and the ramifications of his > absence will long be felt. -" Beck > > "I have a good memory of him, from when I recorded a few songs for the xo > album: we were at Sunset Sound, and on a break we were playing basketball, and > he > had all these wigs and costumes. He brought out this pirate hat that somehow > had an eye patch built into it. Anyway, we devised a game where we all had to > take turns doing a lay-up wearing the pirate hat and patch, and we each had to > do our best pirate impersonation while trying to make the shot. It was > ridiculous and somehow so sweet! At least he had a light side in there at some > point. I'm going to hold on to that image of him hobbling towards the the > basketball hoop in pirate garb, shouting, "Ahrrrrr!", and laughing." - Joey > Waronker, > longtime drummer for Beck. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:09:21 -0500 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Elliott Tribute From the ATP Website: 28th October 2003 TRIBUTE TO ELLIOTT SMITH - SUNDAY NOV 9 Former band members of Elliott Smith are preparing with friends of the late singer to perform a tribute to him on Sunday 9 November on the main stage. Details will be posted here over the next two days so watch this space.... A tribute taken by the people at the Fold at The Silverlake Lounge: Steven Paul (Elliott) Smith. August 6, 1969 / October 21, 2003 Elliott's pure music, and just being around him for that matter, inspired gentleness and generosity. Almost always soft-spoken, he was one of those rare people whose mere presence and artistic honesty made you aspire to accomplish more beautiful things. I will miss seeing him play, and most especially will miss seeing him around. There is an ongoing memorial in L.A. at Sound Solutions (the Figure 8 mural) 4334 W. Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA (in Silver Lake) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:48:13 -0500 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Won't You Follow Me Down To Alameda The Magnet article was great. I had no idea they had a Rose Parade in Portland - I thought Elliott was singing about the one in Pasadena. It fit perfectly anyway (my being someone who has shivered through the parade in person). I also thought he was singing about "our" Alameda. There's a great songwriter for you - everyone can relate in their own way. You really have to wonder if the greatest artists among us are simply fated to suffer, though I'm sure if Elliott had been happier he'd still have made great music, just not quite as dark. I always winced when he said things like "Everything means nothing to me" or "I always feel like shit." I'd think: "Dude, I hope that's songwriter hyperbole - if not, you need to fix that." And I always wondered if the Kill Rock Stars intervention was a good or bad thing, as Elliott seemed to absolutely resent it. But how do you intervene with someone who can't love themself? Dino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:41:07 EST From: LucyPevnsi@aol.com Subject: Re: [MLL] Won't You Follow ... Loving Yourself?! "But how do you intervene with someone who can't love themself?" Dino - -- You can't really.... I am a psychologist and was a friend of Elliott's ....I wrote a whole book (Unbreakable Bonds: Practicing the Art of Loving and Being Loved) on how to break that cycle and learn how to love yourself--regardless of how horribly others treated you when you were little-- teaching you that you weren't worth protecting --and in that teaching you you weren't worth being alive.... I would have dedicated the book to Elliott but I had just gotten married so I wanted to dedicate it to him. I sent Elliott a copy though. I winced as well when I heard those words Dino! ...I quoted those exact words in my dissertation and gave him a copy of that too --when we were hanging out at his show in Montreal (I was living there then). "Renowned song-writer Elliott Smith (1998) has included his perception in the lyrics of these two songs: "god don't make no junk, but it's plain to see, he still made me" and "I always feel like shit--I don't know why, I guess that I 'just do.' " If there is a God--is this what He/She intended? Did He intend to create people as "junk" and/or make people who continually feel so undeserving of signifigance?" My dissertation was on how we form our perception of God-- how our childhood effects that....anyways, Elliott and I had that in common -- we loved to think about thinking-- and philosophy... and of course I always wanted to care for the people who felt worthless.... I learned over lots of struggle to actually start showing up for myself more in that way (and feel much better now-- except for the immediate grief that seems to be non-stop over Elliott and the finality of his death) Anyways, I just wrote Elliott in August on his birthday and told him I was glad to be celebrating another year of his life-- and that we can't let the people of our past who taught us (through their actions) that we were worthless -- we can't let them be so powerful in our lives...we deserve more than that-- just because they didn't realize that then doesn't mean we can't realize it now-- and treat ourselves differently. It just sucks because with Elliott -- as much as he was trying to get away from those painful feelings through alcohol, and all the rest -- he was actually continuing to abuse himself and repeat the cycle of the hurt he hated from his past. When you are faced with that conflict -- of somewhere inside knowing you are betraying yourself every day (whle using, etc.) -- you start taking your anger for them out on yourself and start feeling even more unprotected-- because YOU are now the one leaving yourself unprotected. -- just like we felt in childhood.... It is a viscous cycle to say the least. One I would have done anything to help Elliott break. I think my whole motivation for finally getting my book out was to help Elliott (and one other beautiful--but self-torturing-artist friend I know) heal... They --and people like them were in my heart the whole time... I am not saying my book is profound, by any means, I am only 30 ... but I said as much as I knew and could articulate at the time to help people who wanted to change that very dilemma that you brought up Dino "But how do you intervene with someone who can't love themself?" He could love himself... I know he could have....I know he struggled with that -- I know he tried to show up for himself-- many times....which I won't blab about here.... I just don't think he knew how much he deserved to DO IT ....not to try ...like he wrote "stupidity tries...." We don't deserve the half-hearted effort some of our parents made to protect us-- we deserve a full-fledged showing up and commitment to loving us and protecting us... It sucks because we often just try as much as we perceived our parents tried (even if they did try more than that to take care of us) -- we go as far in helping us as we think they made the effort to care for us. I'll stop talking .... it's just sad ....I can't explain why he finally made the choice he made...I know I can't... I just loved him so much and hated the fact that I couldn't do more to show him that. I've only been able to keep going back to work and working with my clients (being as sad as I am right now) because I keep reminding myself-- these are people that really want to change this cycle... that are still alive now and able to learn to treat themselves otherwise..... I want more LOVE to be in this universe already!!! Love to all of You --, (dr.) Cheryl Meier (aka Lucy Pevensi from the narnia books....) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:59:09 -0500 From: Recordings@aol.com Subject: [MLL] Thanks Lucy Thank you for that, Lucy. Rachel, do you remember when we were seeing Mary Lou's band at the Troubador, and Elliott walked in hand-in-hand with Minnie Driver? You had the back of your head to me, but then you turned with that goofy smile, and I kinda nudged you. "Oooh - it's Elliott! And he's with Minnie Driver!" "That's not Minnie Driver!" you said. "Sure it is - he got nominated for Good Will Hunting; it would make sense." And we all kinda thought they were together, but then Elliott was quoted in the press: "I'm not dating Minnie Driver, and my girlfriend is getting very pissed off that you guys keep saying I am." But I will never forget that excited, my-heart-is-melting look on your face, Rachel. Which is probably the way I looked when Mary Lou came onstage. Dino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:30:26 EST From: SeanJordan@aol.com Subject: Re: [MLL] Thanks Lucy In a message dated 10/29/2003 1:27:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Recordings@aol.com writes: > Rachel, do you remember when we were seeing Mary Lou's band at the > Troubador, and Elliott walked in hand-in-hand with Minnie Driver? Hey dont forget, I was there too. That was such a great experience, and it was indeed Minnie, as we chatted on the street after as we waited for our cars, and I wished her luck at the Oscars, which were a few days later... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:13:38 EST From: EmilyLesh@aol.com Subject: [MLL] A night for Elliott in Austin Hi everyone... I don't know if there's anyone besides me on this list from Austin, TX... but just in case, I wanted to let you know that there will be an Elliott Smith Tribute on Sunday Nov. 2 at Trophy's Bar on South Congress... many Austin musicians playing Elliott's beautiful songs... everyone is welcome... starts around 9 pm... no cover of course... Hope everyone's doing okay... Love, Emily ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V6 #59 *********************************