From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V2 #114 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Tuesday, August 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 114 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [MLL] Re: Chords [Cinnamon Girl ] [MLL] july 23, 1999 - new york, ny, knitting factory - a review [happyjaq] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:32:46 -0400 From: Cinnamon Girl Subject: Re: [MLL] Re: Chords Just a note: In regards to the posts about "infraction" of copyright, etc. on Lyrics & tabs. Well, yes. Legally, you are violating a copyright (publishing or musical) whenever you reprint without the author or record company's permission. However, in terms of these things CONTRIBUTING to the illegal performance of a song....it is my understanding that a song may be PERFORMED live by any performer as long is it not recorded and later sold. If you are a talented guitar player, you can figure out the tabs (or YOUR version of them) anyway and many artists list their lyrics in the liner notes, so....if you really want to perform them, downing OLGA or the Lyrics Server is only stopping the less adept folks, not the folks who might actually do some bootlegging. Considering Mary Lou got her start performing songs in the subway that were by artists other than herself, I think it is odd to slam people for wanting to do the same on this list. - --Cinnamon Jaymes F Horton wrote: > I decided to forward this to to list after seeing the requests for tabs. > These sights just have lyrics, but I thought some of you might be > interested in helping out just the same. Hope nobody minds. > Jaymes > > After seeing that the International Lyrics Server is still not up and > another > great lyrics resource, lyricshq.com has been asked to 'cease and desist', > we > decided to help out one more time. This was the second largest lyrics > site > and a great place to blow some time. > > We grabbed an old tape archive of the people who signed the last petition > and > restored it so that we could notify you and ask for help one last time. > We > hope that you aren't upset about this email but we saw that Tom needs > help > over there and we hoped that everyone could forgive us for this > intrusion. > > He was asked to bring the site down at the beginning of July and tried to > contact their lawyers in order to reach some sort of agreement to get it > back up. As of yet, he has not received a response. We are hoping that > this > petition might give him some ammo to speed things up. > > We have setup the new petition at http://www.radiorequests.com/petition/ > > Please come and sign it. We promise that you will never hear from us > again > and our promise still stands that we have not and will not sell your > emails > off to some spam company. > > If you are a webmaster, please take a second and put up a link to the > petition on your site. It would help greatly. > > Sincerely, > major Lyrics fans @ radiorequests.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 1999 22:25:00 +0100 From: happyjaq@confetti.ruhr.de (Carsten Wohlfeld) Subject: [MLL] july 23, 1999 - new york, ny, knitting factory - a review mary lou lord & jill sobule new york, ny, july 23, 1999, knitting factory - - a review by carsten wohlfeld As Mary Lou pointed out herself halfway through the second set, to do two shows in one evening is kinda weird. The people who see both shows would like to hear all different songs, the ones that just make it to one still wanna hear the 'hits'. Yet this double bill was a lot of fun to see - even twice. Mary Lou opened and started - after being caught up in heavy traffic - her first set with "Hey, Man" and she also did - not in that order - "Western Union Desperate/Just Like Heaven", "I Figured You Out", "His N.D. World", "Hey Anoinette" ("my sister re minds me of Peg Bundy - just the hair though") and the usual lot of Bevis Frond covers: "Book" (with a cute story about some J.Mascis' / Neil Young kinda effects that she hears in her head), "He'd Be A Diamond" ("for the Austin Powers type of guy") and "Lights Are Changing" which started off with a few lines from "There She Goes Again" by The La's and was introcuded by Mary Lou with the cute "Champion the Wonder Horse" story again. She also made some remarks on busking and the Kelly Family, which I th ought were especially funny since they are not very known in the States but huge in Germany. She closed the set with a very good "1952 Vincent Black Lightning" and then returned for a few encores. The set was short and sweet and even though she apologiz ed for not being in perfect form because of her late arrival at the Knitting Factory. Jill Sobule followed and was excellent. Now I'm not that familiar with her stuff and only had heard about two of her songs previously, but she really won over the crowd in a second. I wouldn't necessarliy say that her songs or her performances are bette r than Mary Lou's - they are just different. While Mary Lou's song come more from the "cute" department, Jill likes to change from what she calls "semi-depressing" to hilarious and over-the top. Which actually reminded me a lot of Jonathan Richman. She did a number of brand new songs - and she had to get up guys from the audiences to hold her note book with the lyrics for her! - including the very funny "The Secret Life Of Claire" and "Lucy At The Gym", a strange cover of "Que Sera" plus a song she did together with her mum, who was visiting from Denver. Very cool indeed. The second show was not only longer, but better too. Mary Lou - who by the way was very impressed with Jill's set, too - didn't necessarily agree when I met afterwards and maybe she just played more of my favourite songs in the second set, but I enjoyed the second show a little more, even though she had bad problems with her guitar getting out of tune towards the end of the gig ( which probably is why she thought she kinda lost it at the end). The "second round" started off with "Western Union Despera te" and "Just Like Heaven" again and though it is kinda silly to compare the versions, the second one was probably a little better than the one from the first set. She also did "Some Jingle Jangle Morning", which made me very, very happy cause I never h eard her do it live before and it''s still one of my favourite songs. Maybe because you tend to like the song you hear first by any given artist best, maybe because it's a damn good song... I'd asked her if she could do it, she did it and I was a very h appy camper indeed... Exclusives from the second set included "That Kind Of Girl" by Matt Keating, a lovely "Subway" and "Blimps Go 90/"I Should Have Known Better", a very nice Lucinda Williams cover and an abbreviated "Polaroids". She also did the "Elvis" section of the sho w again at the end, "His Lamest Flame" and the amazing Richard Thompson song "From Galway To Graceland". Cool stuff. The second set by Jill was also better, I'd say. Not only was it longer and included the hilarious "Heroes" (if that is the title of the song), it also included the duet with her mom again and some very unusual requests, "that are not part of my usual repertoire", as she put it. She even did "Kissed A Girl" at the very end and promised an all new abum would be out in January. Keep you f ingers crossed, it's gonna be a killer record! So what else can I say, I'm for one are very happy that I always seem to be in town when Mary Lou plays New York and I'm gonna be back next time - maybe :-) Jill also did a very fine show at Maxwell's in Hoboken two days later that - would you believe i t? - featured a hilarious Bad Company cover. Now all I need is the aforementioned Jill album and some new songs from Mary Lou. See ya next time, thanks for reading and keeping up with my bad english! Also, I thought that there should be a trivia quiz after every show just to check how many of the in-jokes the audience actually got. First off, you'll be obliged to name the original artists of all the cover versions and then you gotta answer questions like: * Why does Mary Lou play "Just Like Heaven" at the end of "Western..."? a) because it's one of the best songs every written and the Cure don't tour much anymore these days? c) because Dinosaur Jr. covered it and the last line of "Western..." is stolen, um, borrowed from J. Mascis anyways? c) why not? * Who are the three guys - Scotty Moore, Bill Black, James Burton - Mary Lou mentions during the Elvis rip-off/tribute "His Latest Flame"? a) three lame ex-boyfriends. b) three guitarist who were tried for the studio recording of the song. c) the King's guitar players. * follow on - question: who did play lead guitar on the orginal "The Latest Flame"? a) Scotty b) Bill c) James d) Mary Lou * Which Beatles song does Mary Lou play at the end of "Blimps Go 90"? a) "Ticket To Ride". b) "P.S. I Love You" c) "I Should Have Known Better" * follow-on question: what is the original title of the Beatles' album the track appears on and what was the album title later changed to? a) "Yeah Yeah Yeah" / "A Hard Days Night" b) "White Album" / "Black Album" c) "Beatles For Sale" / "Live! Tonight! Sold Out" * It is kinda cruel that she does "Hey! Antoinette" every night because... a) it's such an amazing song and she never recorded it. b) even the original by Courtney Love on that ... 7" is now impossible to find. c) you can't attend all of her shows to hear it every night! carsten wohlfeld - -- "i go to the bakery all night long cause there's a lack of sweetness in my life" (jonathan richman) ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V2 #114 **********************************