From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V1 #161 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Wednesday, August 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 161 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [MLL] people who get offended easily: don't read ["Maryanne T.Window"] Re: [MLL] how I got into MLL ["Mark" ] [MLL] Star Hustler; Boston show ["Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" ] [MLL] Star Hustler, again ["Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Maryanne T.Window" Subject: Re: [MLL] people who get offended easily: don't read - ---Hanson Ho wrote: > > (Got the idea from the Sarah McLachlan List) > Here's a translation of Western Union Desperate in to Ebonics: Maybe this is why the Australian pressing of GNS has a "Warning explicit language" sticker on the outside! On another note, has Mary Lou been doing strange things to her hair? Having seen her play in LA, it looked pretty normal to me, but the next day, I was at Sunset Sound and when I told the producer guy that I'd been to the show the night before, he told me that she'd been recording there the previous month and wanted to know what was going on with her hair. The next day after that, I was at the Sony offices and got talking about the show and the guy asked about the show and wanted to know what her hair was like! What's the story? Maryanne _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:41:52 +0100 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: [MLL] how I got into MLL NME reviewed MLL's 8 track EP a few years ago, 7/10 was quite respectable in those days, I'm glad I took their word for it! (A phrase rarely used of the NME!) Could someone please let me know where to find the original version of I Figured You Out? I've recently bought Mr Smith's 3 albums, obviously it's not on any of them, but I'd like to get hold of a copy. Thanks. PS If anyone ever hears of any British tour dates, feel free to let me know! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:56:05 -0400 From: "Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" Subject: [MLL] Star Hustler; Boston show Has anyone heard the Star Hustler album that features Mary Lou Lord? how is it? What is the extent of her involvement? I don't believe there has been a review of the Boston show that took place about a week ago? Did anyone go (Rachel?)? Anything to report? Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:57:25 -0400 From: "Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" Subject: [MLL] Star Hustler I just noticed that the Star Hustler album has a song on it called Seven Sisters. The same as the one on Got No Shadow? Here's the CDnow URL for the album: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=875032708/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:03:31 -0400 From: "Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" Subject: [MLL] Star Hustler, again Not to belabor it (I should have waited before posting), but apparently the "Seven Sisters" song is not the same one. The UBL music store lists the writing credits: http://store.ubl.com/Album.asp?a_id=R+++274262 And the songs are all by (Hatfield, Jason). Not Juliana Hatfield, I guess. Someone related to her? Was Star Hustler somehow associated with Mary Lou Lord in England, and the two Seven Sisters songs might be about the same experiences? Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:16:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: [MLL] I Figured You Out/Star Hustler First of all, if you're searching for an "original" version of "I Figured You Out" you're not gonna find it, because Elliott never recorded it. That's the point of her whole story at all her shows, she says how she had to rescue the song from Elliott's garbage because he doesn't/didn't like it. I saw him play it once in early '97 at Brownies saying he had given it to Mary Lou. So I don't think he'll ever record it. For that reason, I don't list that as a "cover" song on my webpage, because though she didn't write it, it's not really a cover in the traditional sense. He might play it if asked, but I'm not really sure, and I think Mary Lou certainly plays it so much that he doesn't *have* to play it to get it heard! I've seen her about a dozen times this year and only once didn't she play "I FIgured You Out"!!! Oh, and I didn't go see her in Boston or Vermont...had to sit a few out. Mary Lou sings on two songs from Star Hustler's album _Mendicant_ - "drowning" and "nesting ground" - she does backup vocals. Star Hustler are very lovely pop band and they do feature Jason Hatfield, Juliana's brother. Their latest album (which, like all of them, is on Dirt Records) Transamber is also very good, with more of a country twist. They thank Mary Lou and Kevin on there as well. I don't recall offhand which album "Seven Sisters" by Star Hustler is on or what it sounds like. There are some interviews where Mary Lou tells the story behind that song, but basically Seven Sisters is a Tube stop in London and I guess it's a kindof seedy/rundown area and she ended up staying at a hotel there while she was living there. This hotel was home to a lot of prostitutes and that's where the song comes from. And I think Cheryl pointed out before that it's kindof a sequel or goes with "Cinderella Backstreet," which is by Peter Laughner, which is the last song on _Martian Saints!_. :) Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:41:19 -0700 From: rona ramos Subject: [MLL] has Mary Lou been doing strange things to her hair? >On another note, has Mary Lou been doing strange things to her hair? >Having seen her play in LA, it looked pretty normal to me, but the >next day, I was at Sunset Sound and when I told the producer guy that >I'd been to the show the night before, he told me that she'd been >recording there the previous month and wanted to know what was going >on with her hair. The next day after that, I was at the Sony offices >and got talking about the show and the guy asked about the show and >wanted to know what her hair was like! >What's the story? from what i hear, mary lou has an affinity to wigs and hair pieces. at the last show i went to in march she actually made reference to it and joked about it, saying that it was NOT a wig, but some other kind of hair piece. i didn't think it was fake at first, but then i thought about how long it was and guess it made more sense. anyway ... i guess wigs and hair pieces allow for alot of variability in hair styles on a day to day basis! :) rona ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:21:07 EDT From: ScyllaCW@aol.com Subject: [MLL] re: most of the digest i haven't posted here about anything really *real* in a looong time. hello all :) this digest was just chock-full of stuff to reply to! i sent that article to my dad. he and i talk about music ... well, most of the time, if we're talking, it's about music. so i thought it was funny that this article named about half my record collection :) while we're talking about K records and joni mitchell and loudon wainwright III, i have to list some people (and albums)i love who i recommend to anyone who hasn't heard them before: the softies: it's love the mountain goats: nine black poppies loudon wainwright III: career moves joni mitchell: blue james taylor: 2-cd live set (sounds great, plus cover songs and most of his hits) jonathan richman: having a party with jonathan richman kristen hersh: hips and makers lois: bet the sky kate & anna mcgarrigle: dancer with bruised knees how i got into mll: i heard "helsinki" on a mix tape about a year and a half ago, and i couldn't believe how beautiful it was. soon afterwards, i heard "some jingle-jangle morning" on a different mix tape, so i went out and found the self-titled ep. soon after, i bought the martian saints ep and waited patiently for mary lou to get a record deal ... then record the album ... then release it. i'll admit that i love the rawness of the ep's, and working at an audiophile record label for the summer has made me hyper-sensitive to how glossed-over the mixing is on "got no shadow" (MAJOR vocal compression!!). i really really really love "the pace of change," and i hope that's a direction mary lou will continue in. REAL is good for what it is, but i think it's more of a shades-to-come thing than a real expression of her talent. mark asked: <> i liked "you suck," but i dismissed them as a radio pop band. then i got "pristine smut" cheap and used, and i really really like it. not on the whole as much as a couple of songs, but i like the consistent mood. i'm talkative today! catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:08:55 From: Darren Subject: [MLL] 2 things... 1st: Someone posted this years' MLL Bumbershoot schedule... I'm going, and would like to see her paying show, and find her busking if she's able to. 2nd: I remember distinctly seeing the poster for GNS in a record store a buddy and I were wasting time in. I don't know why, but on seeing the poster, I went and found the disc. I pointed out to my friend the song "His Lamest Flame". We both chuckled and I put it back. But, the name and disc stuck in my head. I didn't know it at the time, but I had already heard her. The Saturday AM comp. and the Lennon comp. Then, later, she was scheduled to play the night before Michelle Malone, and I was going to that show, so I figured what the hey, so I'll be tired for two days in a row! So, I went down and bought the cd, so I'd know what I was hearing. I liked it. I met her at the show, and we talked alot. Coolness like that is important to me. She's a winner in my book from now on. While, Michelle Malone talked to me, she wasn't "as" cool about it! I believe Mary Lou actually enjoyed the time we talked. Peace, Darren . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.spiritone.com/~darren/delamitr.htm "Love can't save you now...." ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V1 #161 **********************************