From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V1 #90 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Wednesday, May 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 090 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [MLL] Re: jinglejangle-digest V1 #89 [Zerowork ] [MLL] I'm Not Waiting #3 [Rachel Kramer Bussel ] [MLL] MLL at Lilith [laser72@juno.com (Cheryl A Chastine)] [MLL] Lilith [Rachel Kramer Bussel ] [MLL] Re: jinglejangle-digest V1 #89 [Fern Hung ] [MLL] Rolling Stone interview part 1 [Rachel Kramer Bussel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:20:42 EDT From: Zerowork Subject: [MLL] Re: jinglejangle-digest V1 #89 In a message dated 98-05-12 05:03:08 EDT, you write: << but a friend of mine told me Mary Lou is playing in Toronto May 20th. >> Yes...it is true....she'll be playing solo..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:44:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: [MLL] I'm Not Waiting #3 Just wanted to let you all know that the new issue (#3) of my zine, I'm Not Waiting, is now finished. It's almost all text because I've been really busy and it has interviews with Sarge, Mila Drumke, and Lisa Cerbone. Also many reviews, a trivia contest, and 2 rants - "Worrying" and "Bill Clinton's Dick" (inspired by Susie Bright's awesome essay "Dan Quayle's Dick" which is at http://www.susiebright.com/quayledick.html) To get a copy, send $2 (or a check made out to Rachel Kramer Bussel) to: I'm Not Waiting Prince Street Station P.O. Box 39 New York, NY 10012 I can't do any trades at this time, maybe later in the summer when I have some money. Write me at rkb200@is5.nyu.edu if you have any questions. - -- Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 19:37:27 -0400 From: laser72@juno.com (Cheryl A Chastine) Subject: [MLL] MLL at Lilith I seem to remember Rachel saying a couple of months (?) ago that Mary Lou was "strongly anti-Lilith," or something like that. Does anybody have any way to explain the about-face? Also, I was given a copy of the CD from last year's Lilith, and I'm sorta disappointed... poor sound quality, poor song choices... is it just me? love Cheryl "i could use a storm like you" -big wheel, "storm" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: [MLL] Lilith I was wondering if she's gonna be on main stage or 2nd stage - I've seen reports of both, but I would guess 2nd stage unless the album suddenly rockets to the top of the Billboard charts between now and August. Well, her feelings as she described them to me in a December interview were very akin to Holly McNarland's recent sentiments - that having an all-women show was not the way to fight against sexism in the past, and she said something like if those were the artists you would've picked anyway that's one thing but she seemed skeptical. It seems obvious though that this is a fabulous opportunity for receptive listeners to hear her music, as she is a woman who plays acoustic guitar a la Sarah, Jewel, etc., and a lot of Sarah McLachlan fans seem to have picked up on Mary Lou's music or already liked it, judging from the Sarah mailing list. That seems like explanation enough - also her WORK labelmates Diana King and Heather Nova are on Lilith, I don't know exactly how it works to get picked for Lilith but apparently the label was able to get some of its artists in. She's doing 8 shows I think, August 16-26, so it's not the whole tour. I don't know her exact reasoning though, presumably it'll come up in interviews around that time. And I'm very excited about the Vogue issue with the Levi's ad Mary Lou did - I don't know what month it'll run but I'm hoping early summer. :) Rachel "For there are no new ideas. There are only new ways of making them felt..." -- Audre Lorde, "Poetry Is Not A Luxury" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email Majordomo@smoe.org with ONLY "subscribe jinglejangle" OR "subscribe jinglejangle-digest" in the BODY. For info on my zine I'M NOT WAITING go to http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/zine.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Fern Hung Subject: [MLL] Re: jinglejangle-digest V1 #89 Yup, Mary Lou Lord is playing in Toronto on May 20th. Unfortunately, I'll be working until 12:00 and I'm sure by that time, the show will be over. *sigh* If anyone is going to that show and can pick me up a t-shirt or something, let me know. fern ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:07:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: [MLL] Rolling Stone interview part 1 I'm up pretty late trying to work on exam and browsed my way over to rollingstone.com and found this interview...there may be photos too but i have a text only browser right now. -- rachel Mary Lou Lord: When to say when? The public's appetite for celebrity tales of drug addiction, legal troubles and marital discord is insatiable. Of course, beneath the gossip-page gloss and television glare, real lives are at stake. Singer/songwriter Mary Lou Lord has been battling alcoholism for most of her adult life. It's a disease which crept its way back into the folk singer's career during the last few months. After a successful record (this year's Got No Shadow) and a year of sobriety, Lord found herself slipping back to the bottle while on tour. A month in rehab and a little time to mellow out has given Lord a chance to reflect upon the recent months and come to terms with her past and her promising future. She recently spoke with Rolling Stone Online exclusively about what's been going on in her life. - - I know you just got out of rehab last Monday (April 27). What were the circumstances that lead up to you checking yourself in? I went in on April 2. I have been battling the bottle for a while, and I was sober for about a year and I did really well, and that's when I did my record and I was really productive, and things were cool. And then I went on tour in September, and, unfortunately I didn't make a plan for myself when I went on that tour. I thought I had everything together, and that I'd go to a meeting when I could get to one. And so on my year [anniversary of] sobriety, instead of going to get my cake, I went to the bar at the Paramount in New York. Because you thought you could handle it after all that sober time? I was just like, 'what was the reason I don't drink anymore?' And about five months later, I woke up one morning and just couldn't get out of bed. I was supposed to do a show in Boise that night, and I was in New York that day, and I couldn't get up. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: [MLL] Rolling Stone interview part 2 You were worn out or depressed? I was hungover. And I was tired. It was a really hard tour for me. I didn't get any days off. I was out for two-and-a-half months, and I'd never done anything like that before. And so we all just figured, let's just get back on track with the program again. It takes so much strength to do the record, to do the road, to do this kind of life. It just takes so much out of you. Unless you're 100 percent there, you're not gonna make it. Who did you call when you when you felt yourself slip? Musician's Assistance Program, the guy who runs it, his name is Buddy Arnold. He calls himself 'the oldest living Jewish junkie,' and he's been sober for something like twenty or thirty years. He was a junkie for like fifty years. He's a jazz musician who's probably about seventy-two. He's no stranger to all of the excuses people will give him as to why they shouldn't go into a program or into rehab. And he's just the best. A lot of musicians don't have [comprehensive] health insurance programs, so MAP gives money to musicians to get into rehab for however long they can. They'll help you out, and Buddy will kick your butt. It's pretty great. So now, what is your plan? For the next couple of weeks, I'm kickin' it at home, just hangin' out. I'm catching up on life, returning phone calls, visiting my parents ... that sort of thing. Are you doing Lilith over the summer? Yes. I think I'm doing the Midwest part of it. It seems like a really cool bill. Are you working on some new stuff? I've got some stuff rolling, and I think I'm gonna take some time off in the fall and maybe go into the studio then. Are you writing every day? No. But taking this time, when you slow your life down, and experience your life one day at a time, it's a lot easier to be focused and to write while you're in the moment. Maybe it's just me, but [life on the road] is just not a normal way to live. Maybe sobering up will give you a newborn sense of lucidity and clarity that you never had before. Like seeing the world for the first time. Oh, God yeah. Some of my favorite musicians and writers weren't doing shit while they were drinking, and then about three years into their sobriety, they had some sort of epiphany and wrote like mad. I really want that. HEIDI SHERMAN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: rona Subject: [MLL] anti-lilith to pro-lilith At 07:37 PM 5/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >I seem to remember Rachel saying a couple of months (?) ago that Mary Lou >was "strongly anti-Lilith," or something like that. Does anybody have >any way to explain the about-face? i actually got the chance to talk to her before and after her vancouver show at the starfish room last march. i asked her about doing lilith and she said she was really excited to be a part of it. then i mentioned 'i thought i heard before that you were sorta anti-lilith?.' for some reason she seemed a bit surprised that i asked. i dunno, maybe she figured not too many ppl heard about that. anyway, mary lou said that at first she wasn't really interested because she really values her individuality and didn't want to be labled as a female artist, and also how she thought it was kinda a backwards msg ... the whole feminist equality thing, and then to separate female singers in that way. but then she told me that she felt kinda stupid for thinking that and realized later on what a great oppurtunity it would be to play with these artists and could learn alot from them. and that was that. she's a wonderfully sweet person and i can tell she really loves and appreciates her fans. i encourage anyone and everyone to meet her if they get the chance rona :) (who doesn't usually post, but is always listening) ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V1 #90 *********************************