From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V1 #23 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Tuesday, March 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [MLL] tape trades [Michael Zwirn ] [MLL] Hi all! [William McNair ] [MLL] Bevis Frond tour dates [Rachel ] [MLL] Sticking up for Mary Lou! [Rachel ] [MLL] option review [William Kennedy ] Re: [MLL] Sticking up for Mary Lou! [AWeiss4338 ] [MLL] newbie/boots... [Lisa Nordeen ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:50:10 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [MLL] tape trades I have never really been interested in tape trades before (I hate bootlegging, in general), but I am very interested in getting a copy of Mary Lou's cover of the Big Star song "Thirteen." If someone has a copy and would be interested in working something out, could you please e-mail privately? Thanks. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Zwirn zwirnm@ari.net mzwirn@oao.com alm_zwirnm@carleton.edu Kibbutz Music Reviews: http://carleton.edu/~alm_zwirnm/kibbutz.html This week: Hum, Richard X. Heyman, David Poe, Reign of Frogs, Dan Hartal - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:49:00 -0600 (CST) From: William McNair Subject: [MLL] Hi all! I'm a new subscriber from Chicago, having only discovered MLL thanks toi a review in one of the Chicago newspapers. I must admit that I have totally fell in love with MLL voice and her ability to come up with some extremely interesting songs. I just hope she'll come to the Windy City some day. BTW is the free E.P. that Sony is offering as good as the C.D.? I can't wait to add some more stuff to my collection. Bill McNair mcnair@enteract.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:13:11 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: [MLL] Bevis Frond tour dates Bevis Frond tour dates April 03 - Philadelphia - Trocadero Balcony * 04 - Philadelphia - Pi Lam's Human BBQ * 06 - Oberlin College * 07 - Detroit - Gold Dollar 08 - Chicago - Empty Bottle * 09 - St. Louis somewhere with Mary Lou Lord 10 - Iowa City - Gabe's (w MLL) 11 - Madison - OK's (w MLL) 14 - Portland, OR - Satyricon * 16 - San Francisco - Great American Music Hall * 17-19 - San Francisco - Terrastock Festival SOLD OUT 20 - Los Angeles - Spaceland * 23 - Austin - tbc * 24 - Dallas/Denton - tbc * 27/28 - Chapel Hill - tbc May 01 - Syracuse - venue tbc 02 - NYC - tbc 03 05 - Boston - Middle East tbc 06 - Providence - Century Lounge US .... more later ... * With Brother JT and Vibrolux ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:11:08 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: [MLL] Sticking up for Mary Lou! Happily, I opened the mail to see an envelope from Dino with a lovely clipping from the New Times LA, the one that printed that awful "Groupie Grope" review of Got No Shadow. Here are the letters we got published, with the headline "Clueless about Mary Lou" and part of Dino's letter (the part about "ass-backward") got reprinted at the top of the page. Yippee!! :) Rachel Clueless about Mary Lou Why do writers feel the need to take cheap shots at Mary Lou Lord? ("Groupie Grope," Music, Jan. 22-28). Keith Moerer's review of Got No Shadow was informative, bu he's clueless regarding Mary Lou herself. "Groupie"? "Starfucker"? Ms. Lord's fling with (pre-stardom) Kurt Cobain ended over six years ago. Lester Bangs? You can't starfuck a dead critic. (By the way, Bangs's picture is not "plastered on her guitar case" - it was digitally grafted onto her amplifier on a CD cover). "His Indie World"? Not my favorite tune, but it's obviously a celebration of music--not a groupie's sleep-over list. The saddest thing about Moerer's portrait of Mary Lou is just how ass-backward it is. "Regarding "Subway," he writes: "You get the feelin that the biggest crime committed by (a passing commuter) is that he's not famous or cool enough to court for Lord's next album." Well, I do get the feeling Moerer has never met Mary Lou. It ain't difficult: she plays outdoors late into the night, and treats everyone she meets ("cool" or not) like her new best friend. Passers-by probably won't be asked to record on Mary Lou's next album (what a bizarre though!), but sometimes they do ask to play her guitar, and she hands it over immediately. There are plenty of elitist, starfucking, bad-attitude rocker girls out there, but Mary Lou Lord hasn't joined that stupid club. Dino DiMuro Winnetka While Keith Moerer's assessment of Mary Lou Lord's Got No Shadow is unfavorable, as a critic he's entitled to not like this album, which in my opinion is quite excellent. However, his characterization of Lord as a groupie starfucker is so far off the mark as to be quite laughable. Time and again Lord has proved herself oblivious to the star-making machinery and in awe of the music that she loves. She is quick to sing the praises of Elliott Smith and the Bevis Frond, not to score points with indie cool kids, but because their songs move her. Lord's album may be conventional by some standards, but at least it comes from the heart and not the record label, which is more than can be said of many a Lilith performer. Lord's song "Subway" is a testament to her many years of busking, which she continues to the present day. I don't know why Moerer feels the need to excoriate Lord for being a fan as well as a musician, but his potshots fall far short of the kind of standards I'd expect from music journalists. Then again, maybe, like those Sundance people, he just got an angry phone call from Courtney Love. That'd be explanation enough. Rachel Kramer Bussel New York, N.Y. :) Rachel "do something pretty while you can "cause when i talk to you on the phone don't fall asleep well it's just like being alone riding from California to New York" it's not half right" - -- belle and sebastian -- elliott smith - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join Some Jingle Jangle List, the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email Majordomo@smoe.org with ONLY "subscribe jinglejangle" OR "subscribe jinglejangle-digest" in the BODY. Email me for information about my zine I'M NOT WAITING. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:56:54 -0800 From: William Kennedy Subject: [MLL] option review Here's the review from the March/April 1998 issue of option (the one with Sonic Youth on the cover): Review by Drema Crist Lord's latest album, and her debut on a major, is strikingly good. Why? Miss Mary Lou's done gone and got herself a band, including people like Elliott Smith, Money Mark, Nels Cline and the Bevis Frond's Nick Saloman, who co-wrote many of the songs here. On this release, her airy vocals don't get weighed down by mere acoustic strumming, and she seems less like just another indie-pop whiner. Yeah, sure, Got No Shadow still harbors a couple of unlucky-in-love songs, but hell --they've got drums! And they're just as catchy as Lord's previous work: "His Lamest Flame" (one of the Saloman collaborations) and "Western Union Desperate" stick in your head like TV jingles. "Lights Are Changing" and "She Had You" are equally notable, bouncy, meaningful and girlie, but with power. The album also features a revamped version of "Some Jingle Jangle Morning" (here called simply "Jingle Jangle") that's sped-up and rocked-out, but it invites a sing-along just as much as the original. Lord's still the same subway-busking queen at work here, only with a few more street skills under her belt. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:52:22 EST From: AWeiss4338 Subject: Re: [MLL] Sticking up for Mary Lou! I havn't read the review in question here but it sounds unintentionally amusing. And stupid. Doesn't he know that song interpeters cover their favorite persons songs not because they want to sleep with them but because they like their music? That's what Mary Lou is, a song interpeter, and anyone who can't see that needs to brush up on rock history, where thier is long tradition of people like this, like Bonnie Raitt. If Mary Lou was a guy would she be called a groupie or "starfucker?" Probably not. Oh well, what do you expect from a guy who reads the news on MTV? Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:04:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Lisa Nordeen Subject: [MLL] newbie/boots... I'm new to the list and was wondering if some kind soul out there would be willing to set up a boot trade. If so, please e-mail me privately. Thanks, lisa Lisa Nordeen Instructor - Wellness/Sport Science University of Minnesota, Morris nordeelm@caa.mrs.umn.edu (320) 589-6429 (O) (320) 589-4782 (H) "Ran as hard as I could, still ended up here." - -Emily Saliers ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V1 #23 *********************************