From: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org (jinglejangle-digest) To: jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Subject: jinglejangle-digest V1 #4 Reply-To: jinglejangle@smoe.org Sender: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jinglejangle-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jinglejangle-digest Wednesday, February 11 1998 Volume 01 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Reviews in current magazines [Michael Zwirn ] ARTICLE FROM THE LA TIMES ON MLL [BlueKin@aol.com] MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! [Rachel ] shirts/tour ["*^* Tiffini *^*" ] RE: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! ["Wiencis, Joe" ] Re: ARTICLE FROM THE LA TIMES ON MLL [AWeiss4338@aol.com] Re: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! [That kind of girl ] SPIN article [GoodyErin@aol.com] richmond, va [Stephen Monroe ] Elliott Smith grammy/album update [Rachel ] MLL list admin update [Rachel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:52:08 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Reviews in current magazines MLL fans should be on the lookout for reviews (both very favorable) in Entertainment Weekly and Pulse!, the free magazine that you can pick up at any Tower Records. Also there is a two page article with some interviews in the current edition of Ray Gun, with Goldie on the cover (yikes), and glenn mcdonald reviews the four-song EP (but not the full length) in The War Against Silence, http://www.furia.com/twas. My own reviews of both Got No Shadow and the previous EPs and singles are at my music review site, address below. Mary Lou is coming to D.C. on the 21st of February. She is doing an evening show at the 9:30 club and a FREE IN-STORE at DCCD, a very cool store in Adams Morgan, at 4:00 pm. If there are any Washington-area Mary Lou fans who would like to get together, I am planning to attend both events. Please contact me by private e-mail at zwirnm@ari.net. Western Union Desperate, Michael Zwirn - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Zwirn zwirnm@ari.net mzwirn@oao.com alm_zwirnm@carleton.edu Kibbutz Music Reviews: http://carleton.edu/~alm_zwirnm/kibbutz.html Reviewed this week: Mary Lou Lord, "Got No Shadow" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:34:26 EST From: BlueKin@aol.com Subject: ARTICLE FROM THE LA TIMES ON MLL ARTICLE FROM THE LA TIMES: It's Not the Songwriter but the Songs for Mary Lou Lord Pop Beat: Although her album is mostly songs written by others, the singer is creating a stir. By RICHARD CROMELIN, Special to The LA Times   It's standard procedure in country music. It used to be the norm in pop and rock 'n' roll too: singers doing songs by other writers.      In rock today, though, especially on the alternative edges, artists are pretty much expected to come to the table with both singer and songwriter on their applications. It's been that way since Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell established the complete auteur as the industry standard in the '60s.      That's why it's surprising that U.S. record labels generated such a buzz around Mary Lou Lord in recent years, engaging in a fierce courtship for a Salem, Mass., resident who's sung more on street corners and subway stations than on nightclub stages, and whose repertoire is dominated by the songs of her folk and pop peers.      The Sony-affiliated WORK Group label, which made its mark by shepherding Fiona Apple to stardom, won the bidding war, and the company released Lord's debut album, "Got No Shadow," this week (see review on F6). Lord will be at the Troubadour on Tuesday with Whiskeytown.      Typically, Lord's own compositions on the album are outnumbered by collaborations with guitarist Nick Saloman (of the underground cult group the Bevis Frond) and tunes by Freedy Johnston and the late folk singer Elizabeth Cotton. Her two earlier EPs on the independent Kill Rock Stars label presented material by Pete Droge, Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston and other luminaries of the indie-pop world.      "I've not been playing as long as I've been listening, and I have not been writing even as long as I've been playing," says Lord, 32. "So my writing has to catch up to how long I've been listening. . . . But my ears work really, really well, and if there's a better song out there, I'm gonna put it on my album.      "I don't really care where these songs come from. It's the record and the music on it that matters to me. It's about the sheer love of these songs, and I have to respect them."      Essentially, Lord is trying to do for a new generation of writers what Judy Collins did for the likes of Leonard Cohen and Mitchell--artists whose own careers remained in the shadows until their songs were aired by an accessible singer.      "I want to bring good songs to people who might not otherwise hear them," Lord said. "People have lives, they're busy, they're not these tape-trading dorks like I am. So it's like, do a little research for them and give them the pleasure of experiencing great songs.      "I try to sing them in a way that makes it sound truthful, I guess. . . . A lot of performers are very dramatic, and I'm not very dramatic in my singing, so it sounds more like a friend talking to you than going to see a show. It sounds more honest."      Lord became a performer after discovering underground music in the '80s and working as a college radio deejay. She started by playing in the Boston subways, where she often pushed the songs of a friend, the then-unknown Shawn Colvin. Lord gravitated to the influential Olympia, Wash., scene, where she recorded EPs for Kill Rock Stars that drew a fan base and led to major-label interest.      The jump to the high-profile, corporation affiliation has its disorienting aspects for Lord, but she has her ways of staying grounded.      "Now I am in this machine, and I feel like, 'Oh my God, this can't be real.' . . . I get really nervous, so lately I've been going down to the subway more and more, just to get back that reality. . . . I come up and I walk into Dunkin' Donuts and they go, 'Subway Girl, free coffee for you.' "      * Mary Lou Lord appears with Whiskeytown on Tuesday at the Troubadour, 9081 Santa Monica Blvd., West Hollywood, 8 p.m. $12. (310) 276-6168. Search the archives of the Los Angeles Times for similar stories. You will not be charged to look for stories, only to retrieve one. Copyright Los Angeles Times   ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:52:38 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! Well, last night, ALL night, I had the pleasure of not only watching but being an extra in Mary Lou's video for "Lights are Changing," shot in the NYC subway. It was really cool - there were lots of extras and all these people around and they even got a subway car and we had to jump on and off while Mary Lou sang, sometimes to a VERY speeded up version of the song. It seemed to go on forever, I was there from 9 pm till 6, but now when it's aired maybe you'll see some girl with brown hair and a brown coat probably rushing madly around. It was quite an educational experience, that's for sure, and Mary Lou was really really sweet and thanked me for coming. She was trying to tell the directors how she plays the song because they were having her do all sorts of stuff with the guitar, and I must've heard "Lights are Changing" at least 50 times last night. I don't know when it's gonna be airing, but there is a message about it in the News section of the www.mllord.com page. And I gave her this cool purple t-shirt with a gun on it and a biography of Nick Drake, so that was cool. Also, I'm gonna be putting more photos up on my page...and that *is* Mary Lou's dog Mona in the Entertainment Weekly photo! I forgot to ask her about this, but I typed up the lyrics to "Salem '76" and at the end she says: This time I'll have the final word This time I'll win the case I won't become a _____ girl again I wrote "Sarah" girl on my page b/c that's what it sounds like, but does anyone know if this makes sense or what that would mean? Also, I linked to www.carolkaye.com on my page, if you want to read up on her. Where have all the posters gone??....This list seems lonely all of a sudden... :) Rachel "Bring out the jester and shoot out the lights Rattle your diamonds and pearls There's swill for the swine and pills for the mind More rhythm and booze for the girls" -- Mary Lou Lord, "Throng of Blowtown" - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join Some Jingle Jangle List, the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email me your with your name and email address. :) Email me for information about my zine I'M NOT WAITING. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:00:39 -0800 From: "*^* Tiffini *^*" Subject: shirts/tour hi all :) ive never really posted to this list much so i figured i would say hello and tell you all i like yr posts a lot :) i was wondering rachel how/where/how much did you get yr mll shirt for?? i would LOVE one ... and also does mll plan to tour any more dates than she has listed? cuz i want to see her bad but the closest she is coming is philly and im in pittsburgh thanx! xoxotiffini ~ my page:~ http://www.angelfire.com/ri/Evergrrl add my to yr IM buddylist: mstiffini my icq # is: 4047029 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:52:34 -0500 From: "Wiencis, Joe" Subject: RE: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! I think it's I won't become Sarah Good again Sarah Good was one of the girls accused of witchcraft. At least that's how I hear it. > ---------- > From: Rachel[SMTP:rkb200@is5.nyu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:52 AM > To: jinglejangle@smoe.org > Subject: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! > I forgot to ask her about this, but I typed up the lyrics to "Salem > '76" > and at the end she says: > > This time I'll have the final word > This time I'll win the case > I won't become a _____ girl again > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:33:04 EST From: Zerowork@aol.com Subject: Re: jinglejangle-digest V1 #3 In a message dated 98-02-10 11:22:02 EST, you write: << Mary Lou's Sacramento (at Harlow's) show was basically the same. a bit longer and the crowd a bit smaller. >> Weird review of the SF show....I was there and the vocals seemed really clear, at least in the back of the room....680 tickets sold pus guests.....the crowd responded better to her than Whiskeytown......and SHE NEVER PLAYED IN SAC!.....we ere on a plane to NY to shoot her video, so I don't what Sacramento show you were at..... :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:28:37 -0800 From: William Kennedy Subject: RE: jinglejangle-digest V1 #3 There's a review of MLL in the new Entertainment Weekly, along with the new Ani DiFranco album and someone I've never heard of. I forget what letter grade they gave Mary Lou. B, I think. Better than Ani's grade, not as good as the third person (who was posed, in her photo, in a very Mary Lou pose). Also, Elliot Smith has an Oscar nomination! The first good (no, the first *listenable*) song in recent memory. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:09:07 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: ARTICLE FROM THE LA TIMES ON MLL Some other song interpeters that the LA Times article could have mentioned besides Judy Collins: Bonnie Raitt, Maura O' Connel, Marti Jones and yeah, even Linda Ronstat (70's work only). Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:40:40 -0600 (CST) From: That kind of girl Subject: Re: MLL "Lights are Changing" video shoot! Hi. In "Salem '76" the lyric is, "I won't be made a Sarah Good again." Sarah Good was a 17th century woman in Salem who was burned at the stake for witchcraft. I think that's what it's all about -- it fits in the context of the song. However if you don't agree let me know. Bye, Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:55:49 -0500 From: Brandon Wolfe Subject: Web stuff and new album Hey everyone! I'm happy to see the new automated list is working. Thanks Rachel!!! First off, I hope everyone is enjoying the new album. I think it's really well done, reguardless of what Mary Lou wrote/played. I also think the free EP is nice too. Also, I've added some neat new things to the web page (www.rpi.edu/~wolfeb/lord/). - - You can now VOTE for your favorite song off of Got No Shadow! Current #1 = She Had You - - CONCERT TRACKER!! Ever wanted to set up meetings with other fans before a show? Now you can online! You can see who is going to each show, and if they want to meet before it. Check out the "Tour" section for it. If you have any other ideas of what would be useful on the page, please let me know! Take care, Brandon ___________________________________________________________________ Brandon Wolfe wolfeb@rpi.edu Home Page: http://www.rpi.edu/~wolfeb/ "My Indie World: Mary Lou Lord":http://www.greennet.net/users/brandonw/lord/ ICQ# 2774860 "Hope is the letter that never arives; Delivered by the postman of my fear." Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Computer Science ___________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:03:57 -0500 (EST) From: GoodyErin@aol.com Subject: SPIN article Rachel, I copied the one from SPINonline for you. Email me because your addy is long and beyond my capacity to memorize. It's a pretty simple shot from her neck up, but it's cute I guess. - --Erin PS Sean Jordan's on this list? neat-oh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:48:56 -0500 From: Stephen Monroe Subject: richmond, va are there any mary lou fans near richmond, va? i bought a ticket to the show in washington d.c. and i was wondering if anyone was nearby. stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:09:04 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: Elliott Smith grammy/album update Rocktropolis allstar daily music news February 10, 1998 http://www.allstarmag.com ELLIOTT SMITH NOMINATED FOR ACADEMY AWARD One of the most respected singer/ songwriters in the indie rock pantheon, Elliott Smith, has been nominated for an Academy Award. The former leader of the Portland- based Heatmiser is up for Best Original Song for "Miss Misery," one of the six songs he contributed to the Miramax film Good Will Hunting, (allstar, Nov. 18, 1997) which is up for nine awards, including Best Picture. Smith, who recently inked a solo deal with DreamWorks, is up against the following songs: "Go the Distance" from Hercules, Alan Mencken and David Zippel; "How Do I Live" from Con Air, Diane Warren; "Journey to the Past" from Anastasia, Stephen Flaherty and Lynn Ahrens; and the song that most predict will take the honor, "My Heart Will Go On" from Titanic, James Horner and Will Jennings. Smith is currently in Los Angeles doing pre-production for his DreamWorks debut with famed Bongload producers Rob Schnapf and Tom Rothrock, who produced his 1997 album Either/Or on Kill Rock Stars. He'll try out some of his new material at Spaceland in Silver Lake, California on Feb. 26. The new album is tentatively slated for a summer release. The Oscars will be held at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles on March 23. ps. The Gaze album, Mitsumero, is SO incredible - a lot of you may like it, especially *Ian*!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:01:42 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: MLL list admin update The listowner has been having some problems with the server, so I think no more mail will go out for a while. I'd say cc your posts to yourself and just be patient, or else wait till tomorrow and I'll send the list an update. Your posts probably won't get "lost" but they'll probably be delayed while the problem gets fixed. Re: t-shirts I think Vinh said the t-shirts were $15 each... :) Rachel "I hate myself for sitting here waiting by the phone you're probably out right now with that Kim Deal clone The only thing left to like out of you is how many songs I've written that are new" -- gaze, "any way" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join Some Jingle Jangle List, the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email Majordomo@smoe.org with ONLY "subscribe jinglejangle" in the BODY. Email me for information about my zine I'M NOT WAITING. ------------------------------ End of jinglejangle-digest V1 #4 ********************************