From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V12 #276 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, March 6 2008 Volume 12 : Number 276 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V12 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you [Matt Sullivan ] Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you [dave0828@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you [Karen Boysen ] Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you [Chrissy Slavinsky Subject: RE: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you I agree. Jewel isn't too relevant in the country music scene, and she needs this type of tour, where she can perform in front of 15,000+ people each night and get her new material out there. Obviously she can continue doing headlining shows, but people who aren't familiar with her country music aren't going to come see. She needs to do this tour so her album sells and the singles continue to do well. Cut and dry. It's not her giving up by any means, it's her getting her music to an audience who might not otherwise hear it. - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:34:06 -0800 > From: jkfan@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > To: jewel@smoe.org > > I think as Mike said, it's pretty much common practice to tour with someone such as Jewel is doing. You can't really compare her career 15 years ago or so when she was opening for Dylan and Neil Young etc. That was a different time for her, you have to almost look at this as a brand new career. She's trying to get into a whole new genre. This is the best way for her to build a fan base and whether you like Brad Paisley or not, he's quite popular in the country realms so IMO, a good choice has been made. But of course, only time will tell. > > As for comparing the upcoming shows to those she did with Rob Thomas...well I am not sure that's a fair comparison either. Country music fans and fans of...whatever you call Rob's music exactly (I don't dislike him or his music I just don't know which genre it fits in) aren't really comparable. I think as a whole country music fans are respectable. I've attended country music concerts and I've been there for the whole thing, opening act and all, as were the majority of the people. It's just a different scene compared to rock and pop concerts. > > So, while only time will tell, I think this is a good move for Jewel. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Connell > To: dave0828@aol.com > Cc: jewel@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 2:20:44 PM > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > > >> Come on Jewel - stand on your own two feet!!? Does anyone else here think there's a > steep decline.? More than a decade ago she opened for Bob Dylan and Neil Young's > tours.? Brad FREAKING Paisley????? Uh uh...? not when there are so many other shows > to choose from during the summer.? Actually, not ever.<< > > I hear ya, but somewhat disagree in this case (I think). > > Even after her stint on Nashville Star (that's the right name, right?) Jewel is a > new-kid-on-the-block in country music and does not yet have a tride-and-true live > following in that genre. If she headlined her own tour that featured the new album, I am > not too sure it would do/go over well since many people would buy tix expecting > old-school Jewel and seeing new-school Jewel might turn many of them off. Plus, even if > advertising for the tour makes it clear this is "country" Jewel, I'm not soo sure it > would sell well with the country music fans, at least not yet in this, her infancy > stages of this genre. > > Opening for known country act with other country artists on the bill will (hopefully) > start to get her a live following. > > That said, there's always the (probable) fact that many ticket buyers won't even see her > on this tour with Paisley as many will arrive to their seats just before Paisley takes > the stage or just not pay attention to her. This is what I witnessed at my lone Rob > Thomas/Jewel concert in 2006. The venue was 2/3 empty during Jewel's set and full during > Rob's set and many that WERE there during her set were not paying attention. > > Anyway, we'll see soon enough. > > Mike > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:20:26 -0500 From: dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you where she can perform in front of 15,000+ people each night I believe you're vastly over-estimating the staggering drawing power of Jewel as an opening act on this tour, and everyone elses' willingness to listen...? personally, I believe about 12,000 of those people will be in the parking lot, getting a beer, or using the restroom. But, time will tell.? Like I said previously, that's just my opinion, I may be wrong. - -----Original Message----- From: Matt Sullivan To: Karen Boysen ; jewel@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 4:02 pm Subject: RE: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you I agree. Jewel isn't too relevant in the country music scene, and she needs this type of tour, where she can perform in front of 15,000+ people each night and get her new material out there. Obviously she can continue doing headlining shows, but people who aren't familiar with her country music aren't going to come see. She needs to do this tour so her album sells and the singles continue to do well. Cut and dry. It's not her giving up by any means, it's her getting her music to an audience who might not otherwise hear it. - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:34:06 -0800 > From: jkfan@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > To: jewel@smoe.org > > I think as Mike said, it's pretty much common practice to tour with someone such as Jewel is doing. You can't really compare her career 15 years ago or so when she was opening for Dylan and Neil Young etc. That was a different time for her, you have to almost look at this as a brand new career. She's trying to get into a whole new genre. This is the best way for her to build a fan base and whether you like Brad Paisley or not, he's quite popular in the country realms so IMO, a good choice has been made. But of course, only time will tell. > > As for comparing the upcoming shows to those she did with Rob Thomas...well I am not sure that's a fair comparison either. Country music fans and fans of...whatever you call Rob's music exactly (I don't dislike him or his music I just don't know which genre it fits in) aren't really comparable. I think as a whole country music fans are respectable. I've attended country music concerts and I've been there for the whole thing, opening act and all, as were the majority of the people. It's just a different scene compared to rock and pop concerts. > > So, while only time will tell, I think this is a good move for Jewel. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Connell > To: dave0828@aol.com > Cc: jewel@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 2:20:44 PM > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > > >> Come on Jewel - stand on your own two feet!!? Does anyone else here think there's a > steep decline.? More than a decade ago she opened for Bob Dylan and Neil Young's > tours.? Brad FREAKING Paisley????? Uh uh...? not when there are so many other shows > to choose from during the summer.? Actually, not ever.<< > > I hear ya, but somewhat disagree in this case (I think). > > Even after her stint on Nashville Star (that's the right name, right?) Jewel is a > new-kid-on-the-block in country music and does not yet have a tride-and-true live > following in that genre. If she headlined her own tour that featured the new album, I am > not too sure it would do/go over well since many people would buy tix expecting > old-school Jewel and seeing new-school Jewel might turn many of them off. Plus, even if > advertising for the tour makes it clear this is "country" Jewel, I'm not soo sure it > would sell well with the country music fans, at least not yet in this, her infancy > stages of this genre. > > Opening for known country act with other country artists on the bill will (hopefully) > start to get her a live following. > > That said, there's always the (probable) fact that many ticket buyers won't even see her > on this tour with Paisley as many will arrive to their seats just before Paisley takes > the stage or just not pay attention to her. This is what I witnessed at my lone Rob > Thomas/Jewel concert in 2006. The venue was 2/3 empty during Jewel's set and full during > Rob's set and many that WERE there during her set were not paying attention. > > Anyway, we'll see soon enough. > > Mike > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: Karen Boysen Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you Right on. This isn't Jewel giving up on her career as we've known it, it's just her being smart and knowing she needs to backtrack a few steps if she wants to be successful at the country thing. Now, IMO, if she were really smart she'd continue her solo acoustic shows to: 1. keep her original fan base 2. perhaps ease those old fans into the new music by playing it solo acoustic, changing it up from the countrified versions on the album and that she'd play on tour with Paisley. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Sullivan To: Karen Boysen ; jewel@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 3:02:56 PM Subject: RE: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you I agree. Jewel isn't too relevant in the country music scene, and she needs this type of tour, where she can perform in front of 15,000+ people each night and get her new material out there. Obviously she can continue doing headlining shows, but people who aren't familiar with her country music aren't going to come see. She needs to do this tour so her album sells and the singles continue to do well. Cut and dry. It's not her giving up by any means, it's her getting her music to an audience who might not otherwise hear it. - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:34:06 -0800 > From: jkfan@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > To: jewel@smoe.org > > I think as Mike said, it's pretty much common practice to tour with someone such as Jewel is doing. You can't really compare her career 15 years ago or so when she was opening for Dylan and Neil Young etc. That was a different time for her, you have to almost look at this as a brand new career. She's trying to get into a whole new genre. This is the best way for her to build a fan base and whether you like Brad Paisley or not, he's quite popular in the country realms so IMO, a good choice has been made. But of course, only time will tell. > > As for comparing the upcoming shows to those she did with Rob Thomas...well I am not sure that's a fair comparison either. Country music fans and fans of...whatever you call Rob's music exactly (I don't dislike him or his music I just don't know which genre it fits in) aren't really comparable. I think as a whole country music fans are respectable. I've attended country music concerts and I've been there for the whole thing, opening act and all, as were the majority of the people. It's just a different scene compared to rock and pop concerts. > > So, while only time will tell, I think this is a good move for Jewel. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Connell > To: dave0828@aol.com > Cc: jewel@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 2:20:44 PM > Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you > > >> Come on Jewel - stand on your own two feet!!? Does anyone else here think there's a > steep decline.? More than a decade ago she opened for Bob Dylan and Neil Young's > tours.? Brad FREAKING Paisley????? Uh uh...? not when there are so many other shows > to choose from during the summer.? Actually, not ever.<< > > I hear ya, but somewhat disagree in this case (I think). > > Even after her stint on Nashville Star (that's the right name, right?) Jewel is a > new-kid-on-the-block in country music and does not yet have a tride-and-true live > following in that genre. If she headlined her own tour that featured the new album, I am > not too sure it would do/go over well since many people would buy tix expecting > old-school Jewel and seeing new-school Jewel might turn many of them off. Plus, even if > advertising for the tour makes it clear this is "country" Jewel, I'm not soo sure it > would sell well with the country music fans, at least not yet in this, her infancy > stages of this genre. > > Opening for known country act with other country artists on the bill will (hopefully) > start to get her a live following. > > That said, there's always the (probable) fact that many ticket buyers won't even see her > on this tour with Paisley as many will arrive to their seats just before Paisley takes > the stage or just not pay attention to her. This is what I witnessed at my lone Rob > Thomas/Jewel concert in 2006. The venue was 2/3 empty during Jewel's set and full during > Rob's set and many that WERE there during her set were not paying attention. > > Anyway, we'll see soon enough. > > Mike > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Chrissy Slavinsky Subject: Re: [EDA] Tour! -- Nooooooo THANK you I'll tell ya... I really don't like most country music, and I have no interest in seeing brad paisley... My plan is to go to the concert... and most likely leave after Jewel performs. Mike Connell wrote: >> Come on Jewel - stand on your own two feet!!? Does anyone else here think there's a steep decline.? More than a decade ago she opened for Bob Dylan and Neil Young's tours.? Brad FREAKING Paisley????? Uh uh...? not when there are so many other shows to choose from during the summer.? Actually, not ever.<< I hear ya, but somewhat disagree in this case (I think). Even after her stint on Nashville Star (that's the right name, right?) Jewel is a new-kid-on-the-block in country music and does not yet have a tride-and-true live following in that genre. If she headlined her own tour that featured the new album, I am not too sure it would do/go over well since many people would buy tix expecting old-school Jewel and seeing new-school Jewel might turn many of them off. Plus, even if advertising for the tour makes it clear this is "country" Jewel, I'm not soo sure it would sell well with the country music fans, at least not yet in this, her infancy stages of this genre. Opening for known country act with other country artists on the bill will (hopefully) start to get her a live following. That said, there's always the (probable) fact that many ticket buyers won't even see her on this tour with Paisley as many will arrive to their seats just before Paisley takes the stage or just not pay attention to her. This is what I witnessed at my lone Rob Thomas/Jewel concert in 2006. The venue was 2/3 empty during Jewel's set and full during Rob's set and many that WERE there during her set were not paying attention. Anyway, we'll see soon enough. Mike - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V12 #276 ****************************