From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V11 #204 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, August 5 2006 Volume 11 : Number 204 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V9 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere [Sasafrass ] Re: [EDA] Question ["jamie mathews" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere [PinkChanel@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Question [PinkChanel@aol.com] [EDA] Re: NEXT JEWEL... [JewelBlues@aol.com] [EDA] Re: Wedding Songs [Josie Rathbone ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere [Sasafrass ] [EDA] Any Wicked Fans?? [Kiwi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:52:54 -0400 From: Sasafrass Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere As far as the viruses/malicious attachments goes, Yahoo does block them. I even got notices when a virus was detected. But I digress..... Granted, there are times when the archives are briefly not accessible, but is there such a thing as a "perfect" website that never crashes? Servers do go down from time to time, & I haven't really seen it happen that much. Overall, I think they provide a good service, & when a problem arises they fix it as quickly as possible. I would say the pros outweigh the cons..... - --------------------------------- http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com http://www.geocities.com/sasafrass452/darkangel.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sassyscorner IM me! Sasafrass452 (Yahoo) PinkChanel@aol.com wrote: > Sorry I'm late to this, but here goes: > > I am a many-many-years user (and assistant/mod) of various yahoogroups > and I would just like to point out some of the known cons in moving: > > * Frequent unscheduled downtimes where > - it won't accept posts via email (w/o notification that it didn't make it) > - it won't accept posts via web (ditto) > - it delivers digests 2 days late > - the archives aren't available > > * It uses web beacons/bugs via ads in each and every listmail (with image > settings on). > > * Allows virii+malicious code attachments. > > * Completely blanks all mail from hotmail, especially in digests. > > * When you try to report repeat spammers who use yahoomail, the "help" staff > tell you it's the group mod's fault, instead of just blocking that yahoomail > user. > > I'm sure there are other problems (without even mentioning China), but these > are the most recent ones we've had these last few months alone. > > just my 2"... > -Pink ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:24:06 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] Question Sasafrass wrote: > Yahoo groups does have >some really neat features, including moderation which we would >definitely need. The listserve at smoe.org does have a moderation option, which (controversially) was in place here for about a three-year span. I don't think anyone here now that was here during that span would want to return to a moderation mode (including me, I really did HATE having to be an umpire on all the posts sent in). Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:04:08 -0500 From: "jamie mathews" Subject: Re: [EDA] Question UGH. Moderation SUCKED. But there were a lot of drama-filled fun fights before that. We're all grown ups; we can handle it. On 8/4/06, Mike Connell wrote: > > Sasafrass wrote: > > Yahoo groups does have > >some really neat features, including moderation which we would > >definitely need. > > > The listserve at smoe.org does have a moderation option, which > (controversially) was in place here for about a three-year span. I don't > think anyone here now that was here during that span would want to return > to a moderation mode (including me, I really did HATE having to be an > umpire on all the posts sent in). > > Mike > - -- jamie mathews greyjamie@gmail.com http://www.xanga.com/greyjamie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:11:48 EDT From: PinkChanel@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere In a message dated 04-August-2006 07:59:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Tim, Sasafrass452@yahoo.com writes: << As far as the viruses/malicious attachments goes, Yahoo does block them. I even got notices when a virus was detected. But I digress..... >> Yes, it probably blocked it within your own personal yahoomail. But lots have gone through the yahoogroups lists. They even had problems with their image ads attached to emails. (Not everyone has an email service that can block images.) << Granted, there are times when the archives are briefly not accessible, but is there such a thing as a "perfect" website that never crashes? >> I guess everyone has varying expectations of a free service. ;) << Servers do go down from time to time, & I haven't really seen it happen that much. Overall, I think they provide a good service, & when a problem arises they fix it as quickly as possible. >> Just over the last two seasons, the service has gone down quite a bit, by that I mean at least twice or thrice a month, some months it's been twice weekly. Lately, the complaints have been that posts mysteriously "disappear" into thin air, or take days to show up. But I suppose one's patience depends on how much time one can spend waiting online for things to begin working again. << I would say the pros outweigh the cons..... >> Not according to the *hundreds* of inconvenienced list members who complain to us MODS constantly!! :( But okay, you count as one dissenting opinion. Too bad you aren't on any of the lists I help out with, you're so nice about it all! :) best, ;Pink = = = = = = = = = = = PinkChanel@aol.com wrote: > Sorry I'm late to this, but here goes: > > I am a many-many-years user (and assistant/mod) of various yahoogroups > and I would just like to point out some of the known cons in moving: > > * Frequent unscheduled downtimes where > - it won't accept posts via email (w/o notification that it didn't make it) > - it won't accept posts via web (ditto) > - it delivers digests 2 days late > - the archives aren't available > > * It uses web beacons/bugs via ads in each and every listmail (with image > settings on). > > * Allows virii+malicious code attachments. > > * Completely blanks all mail from hotmail, especially in digests. > > * When you try to report repeat spammers who use yahoomail, the "help" staff > tell you it's the group mod's fault, instead of just blocking that yahoomail > user. > > I'm sure there are other problems (without even mentioning China), but these > are the most recent ones we've had these last few months alone. > > just my 2"... > -Pink ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:23:57 EDT From: PinkChanel@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Question ha ha, i recall another music list i was on some years back where the uberfan college-chick owner would block your post if she didn't like your opinion, give you a stern warning and wouldn't allow you to post for a day or two (depending on your crime), torturing you as you could still read the messages, yet couldn't reply. all her ideas of "proper punishment". if you still had the same opinion and tried to post something along those lines again, you got booted and banned! i think she was from berkeley or santa rosa or santa-something.... In a message dated 04-August-2006 11:08:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Tim, greyjamie@gmail.com writes: UGH. Moderation SUCKED. But there were a lot of drama-filled fun fights before that. We're all grown ups; we can handle it. On 8/4/06, Mike Connell wrote: > The listserve at smoe.org does have a moderation option, which > (controversially) was in place here for about a three-year span. I don't > think anyone here now that was here during that span would want to return > to a moderation mode (including me, I really did HATE having to be an > umpire on all the posts sent in). > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:32:33 EDT From: JewelBlues@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: NEXT JEWEL... This is MORGAN..from Australia...she has a CD coming out, a promotion team, a publicist and a pending tour of the USA..she emailed me the other day and said "I want to be the Next Jewel, what do you think?"...So--what do you all think of her? Her; Myspace address---- _http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=184 88699_ (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=18488699) PS--NO I do not work for her or anyone affiliated with her,...David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Josie Rathbone Subject: [EDA] Re: Wedding Songs Hello EDAs! As you may recall back in early June I asked for recommendations for songs to play at my wedding reception. My fiance (now husband!) finally gave in and allowed me to have 11 Jewel songs, as long as I promised to divide them up between dinner, dancing and mingling so that it wouldn't sound like a Jewelfest (which I wouldn't have minded at all). So, I took all of your recommendations, tallied up the votes, and here are the songs I played: Near you Always, Jupiter, Morning Song, Absence of Fear, Face of Love, Summerhome in Your Arms (a special song for David and I), Break Me, Winter's Night, What's Simple is True, This Way, Belong to You. Thanks for all of your help! The wedding and reception went beautifully, the honeymoon (cruise!) was amazing, and I'm loving the married life. I couldn't have narrowed down the songs without you! The (married) vegan angel - --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:08:53 -0400 From: Sasafrass Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere Actually, it was Yahoogroups' email system blocking the virus(es). The infected messages were being sent to the group owner & mods which included me, & subsequently blocked. Those messages never got posted to the group because not only were they infected, they were not from a group member. As I said before, I even got notices from Yahoo informing me that a virus was detected in the email. - --------------------------------- http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com http://www.geocities.com/sasafrass452/darkangel.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sassyscorner IM me! Sasafrass452 (Yahoo) PinkChanel@aol.com wrote: > Yes, it probably blocked it within your own personal yahoomail. But lots > have gone through the yahoogroups lists. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:20:54 -0700 From: mikasteve@mac.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere All I know is that using SMOE is a tradition, and it works fine. Yahoo Groups is what everyone else does, it's boring. I'm very happy with the service. I've been here off and on since 1999, and I like it. Stephen On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sasafrass wrote: > Actually, it was Yahoogroups' email system blocking the virus(es). The > infected messages were being sent to the group owner & mods which > included me, & subsequently blocked. Those messages never got > posted to > the group because not only were they infected, they were not from a > group member. As I said before, I even got notices from Yahoo > informing > me that a virus was detected in the email. > > > > --------------------------------- > http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com > http://www.geocities.com/sasafrass452/darkangel.html > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sassyscorner > IM me! Sasafrass452 (Yahoo) > > > PinkChanel@aol.com wrote: >> Yes, it probably blocked it within your own personal yahoomail. >> But lots >> have gone through the yahoogroups lists. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:53:24 EDT From: PinkChanel@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Moving to Yahoo...or elsewhere all the recent group spam/virus blocking (spam folder/filter for groups activated *this* year only....maybe a couple of months ago, if that) came after the years and years of allowing everything into the groupmails that had the image/attachments setting "on". anyway, i don't have a personal interest in yahoo one way or the other =) .....just trying to save list members headaches that our list owner/mod friends and list member acquaintances have had to deal with for years. In a message dated 04-August-2006 12:37:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Tim, Sasafrass452@yahoo.com writes: Actually, it was Yahoogroups' email system blocking the virus(es). The infected messages were being sent to the group owner & mods which included me, & subsequently blocked. Those messages never got posted to the group because not only were they infected, they were not from a group member. As I said before, I even got notices from Yahoo informing me that a virus was detected in the email. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:26:23 EDT From: JewelBlues@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: MISSED KIMMEL I missed recording Jewel on Jimmy Kimmel the other night....I also cant record off the NET (BILL MAHER)..if someone can make me a DVD of these 2 things..i would really appreciate it--and will return something on DVD worthwhile...Dave (email me:Jewelblues@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:31:14 -0400 From: Kiwi Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Miranda Lambert I just got her CD, I wrote her off because she was on that Country Idol show, but she is really good! On 8/3/06, Matt Sullivan wrote: > > Yay I'm go to see Miranda Lamber tonight! I'm so freggin excited! And I > get > to go for free cause I work for the venue... And I'm soooo gonna make sure > I > meet her and I don't care if I get fired... > > Happy Thursday people! Almost the weekend...hang in there!!! > > matthew > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:35:46 -0400 From: Kiwi Subject: [EDA] Any Wicked Fans?? Just a random comment...I don't know if anyone here has seen the musical Wicked, but I was just thinking that Jewel would make an amazing Galinda if they ever decide to stunt cast the show. I doubt that she would ever do Broadway, but she did do the Wizard of Oz and she is trained in opera so here is hoping!! ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V11 #204 ****************************