From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V9 #41 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, February 9 2004 Volume 09 : Number 041 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V9 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [EDA] NJC: American Idol (shebangs) ["EN" ] [EDA] one more reason why unedited sucks [NeOblCar@aol.com] [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE ["michiel" ] RE: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE ["EN" ] Re: [EDA] i am just a little sad [Natalie Manuel Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: American Idol (shebangs) Heee. It's so sad, but it's oh-so-funny. Here is the dude's website. I don't know if he personally is responsible for the site since it seems a little mean. Anyway, here it is: http://www.williamhung.net I can't get over the clip. Hahahaha. Elizabeth - -----Original Message----- From: owner-jewel@smoe.org [mailto:owner-jewel@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Connell, Michael P Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 9:57 AM To: 'Melissa Bruce'; 'jewel@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC: American Idol (shebangs) > I found this link if any of you are interested. :) > It's of the guy that sang the Ricky Martin song in the auditions for American > Idol. I couldn't open this link direct (it could be my computer) so if it > doesn't work for you also, open windows media player, go to file, then "open > url" and copy and paste this link into that space (the way you would with the > media on Jewel:Unedited). > http://home.comcast.net/~dhliu/shebangs.wmv Does anyone know how to copy or record this? It's giving me a "cannot copy" on Windows Media Player. It probably means I am cooked but I figure maybe one of you media geniuses out there knows of a work around. Also, if you haven't yet seen this, by all means check it out. It's flat out hilarious. I almost died laughing the night I saw it on American Idol. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:10:56 EST From: NeOblCar@aol.com Subject: [EDA] one more reason why unedited sucks The presale tickets are a joke for nearly every venue near us. Sure for paying a $30 per ticket premium you're guaranteed in the first 20 rows, but the state theater in New Brunswick only has 23 rows. So what are they really saying that they reserved the entire orchestra level for Unedited Preferred seating? I doubt it. Plus, and to me this is the kicker, you don't know what seat you have until the tickets show up a week before the concert. Save your effort and you'd be better off trying under the normal sale. == Rob == "All the perfect drugs and superheroes wouldn't be enough to bring me up to zero," Aimee Mann ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:07:22 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE i can4t believe my eyes how commercial the grammys are......for the 10th year in executive order, jewel didn4t pick up any grammy nor was she this year nominiated... how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must have really laid all the producers down... i am dissapointed that once again jewel lost the battle , to get recognition for her work?? are her songs silly??? is her musical image boring??? i can4t believe what the leading award commitees doing for fucking job.. they only nominate the artists where they get paid from royalties by the crooks of management.. for me it is idiot than one singer wins 5 while you can share them better... What gives the right that one artist win 5 ??? Is beyonce amazing?? no, is she a big cow ? yeah.. does she suck ? Yeah she does.. So in the end the whole grammy awards show is a big cliche and jewel will never win this event unless..... Jewel changes image dramatically.. or Jewel walks a different path..to succes?? bye michiel www.jewelkilcher.nl the nr#1 jewel fan site ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:32:56 -0600 From: "Matt Sullivan" Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE Wow Michiel I have always stood up for you on the list and regarding the whole thing with getting kicked off as a forum moodirater, but then I get an email calling Beyonce the stupid black singer, and the big cow, as well as insuinuating that she had sex with people on the committee to win her awards. I am a person that whole-heartedly believes in mutual respect. Beyonce in no way stopped Jewel from recieving Grammy nominations or rewards, in fact she invited Jewel to perform with her for her pay-per-view concert special. You must solely be judging Beyonce on her singles and work with Destiny's Child, Michiel, which in itself is amazing, becuase had you been judging her with any knowledge, instead of preconcieved notions, you would know that her current solo album is nothing short of amazing. Beyonce WROTE or CO WROTE her ENTIRE ALBUM, as well as the past two albums release by Destiny's Child. Although I am dissappointed that Jewel has not been getting recognition by the Grammy's, I'm not about to talk crap about those who did. Thanks! - ----- Original Message ----- From: michiel Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:10 AM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE i can4t believe my eyes how commercial the grammys are......for the 10th year in executive order, jewel didn4t pick up any grammy nor was she this year nominiated... how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must have really laid all the producers down... i am dissapointed that once again jewel lost the battle , to get recognition for her work?? are her songs silly??? is her musical image boring??? i can4t believe what the leading award commitees doing for fucking job.. they only nominate the artists where they get paid from royalties by the crooks of management.. for me it is idiot than one singer wins 5 while you can share them better.. What gives the right that one artist win 5 ??? Is beyonce amazing?? no, is she a big cow ? yeah.. does she suck ? Yeah she does.. So in the end the whole grammy awards show is a big cliche and jewel will never win this event unless..... Jewel changes image dramatically.. or Jewel walks a different path..to succes?? bye michiel www.jewelkilcher.nl the nr#1 jewel fan site ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:48:20 EST From: MicheleMarie333@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE I agree i get irratated when I hear "how many people did she sleep with for that garmmy.." im like PLEASE god..Thats so annoying, I mean yes I'm frustrated that Jewel didn't get any grammys, but I honestly think Beyonce deserved her grammys, she did really well this year, every time you turn on the radio it was her songs on...and same for mtv and saying "how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys???" Why do you have to say "black stupid singer.." i mean thats wrong you know? I dont mean to jump down anyones throat or anything..its just really really irratating...I am still pissed though that Jewel didn't even get nominated thats ridiculous Jewel is the best singer to ever live on the planet and she doesn't have a grammy!! ~Michele *jewelsnumber1fan* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:52:23 -0500 (EST) From: "shell" Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE It seems to me if the Grammy's are oh so commercial and oh so horrible, would we want Jewel to be awarded anything by them? Just something to think about... It's not like Beyonce is some no-talent who just happened to come in off the street on a good day. The girl's got pipes, she can sing, and she writes a lot of her own music. She's got talent up the wall, it's not like she's some unknown. She wouldn't have to sleep with anybody to get an award, she's got talent. We'll all be fine if Jewel doesn't get a Grammy ever in her lifetime, I'm sure. The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:08:40 -0500 From: GSBrumley@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE In a message dated 2/9/2004 12:07:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, michielvangorkum@concepts.nl writes: > how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys Since when did race have anything to do with intelligence or talent? What a shallow thing to say, just because Jewel wasn't nominated. Granted, I'm not a Beyonce Knowles fan, but it certainly has nothing to do with the color of her skin. Gina ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:31:25 EST From: StuartnDee@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE In a message dated 2/9/04 12:11:06 PM, michielvangorkum@concepts.nl writes: << that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must have really laid all the producers>> And he cant understand why they wont let him be moderator at the jeweljk message boards. LOL! :)Dee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:33:59 -0800 From: "Missy" Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE Michiel, you can't get all torn up about everything Jewel isn't nominated for. > how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must > have really laid all the producers down... You've said a lot of ignorant things, but this is the worst. Not just becuase I actually have respect for Beyonce Knowles as a performer, but for bringing the subject of race into this. It's not a factor in the grammy choosings. > What gives the right that one artist win 5 ??? Is beyonce amazing?? no, is she > a big cow ? yeah.. > > does she suck ? Yeah she does.. Beyonce Knowles has a beautiful singing voice, and she is a cow because she is not stick thin? No offense, sweet cheeks, but neither is Jewel. Get over it, Michiel. Your fandom is becoming rather creepy. - -Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:44:35 -0500 From: Buster2530@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE Well, I belive that Beyonce deserved every award she got. For one, who cares if Jewel doesn't get nominated. She'll always be good to us, and that's all that matters. And in my opinion, if Jewel DID get nominated for 0304, it wouldn't win anything. Don't get me wrong, I love jewel, and I love 0304, but it just doesn't showcase her beautiful talent like Pieces of You does. But hey, that's just my personal opinion. And Beyonce does have an incredible voice, so I think she deserved her grammys'. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:46:51 -0800 From: "Kev Dogg" Subject: RE: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE Michiel, Thanks for reminding us all why you got booted as a moderator. 3 words for you dude. Anger Management Class. Kevin >From: "michiel" >To: >Subject: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:07:22 +0100 >how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must >have really laid all the producers down... >What gives the right that one artist win 5 ??? Is beyonce amazing?? no, is >she >a big cow ? yeah.. >does she suck ? Yeah she does.. _________________________________________________________________ Click here for a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:27:20 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] i am just a little sad that one artist wins five and that i called beyonce a black singer was just bad english....i wanted to say that i felt crazy that one won five awards...i am sorry for those offended .... i know sometimes i talk a little crazy but that is because i am too much dissapointed that jewel didnt win any award .. sorry for misunderstanding michiel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:06:01 -0800 From: "EN" Subject: RE: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE While I don't like what you said Michiel, I do believe that the "black singer" part was not meant as a racist comment. I think he really just meant it as an adjective. That said, I can't see you as being a music lover if you get THAT mad about Beyonce winning those Grammys. I didn't even watch the show because I wasn't interested in any of the nominees. But I can't imagine hating or disrespecting another artist like that. I may not enjoy their work and I may not like them, but I just say "I don't care for their music." I hate it when someone who doesn't listen to "Jewel" type music says they hate Jewel when they don't know anything about her. They just know her image. You can not care for an artist and still respect them. Anyway, I'd rather Beyonce win than some other artists who have won Grammys in the past. I think she's a bit overrated, but she's still a great writer. She's so young too! Anyway, the time to be mad was when Jewel wasn't nominated. There is no point in being mad about her not winning an award when she wasn't even nominated. Besides I agree with the person who said "do we really want Jewel to win a Grammy if it truly is corporate?" We know she's great and it's sad that she might go unrecognized for it, but who cares? Take a look at Sean Penn and his stance on the Oscars. Each performer is award-winning in his or her own respect. Even if we're talking about someone like Britney ;-) Hee .. j/k. No hate mail from Britney fans please. Side note: I used to kind of like Britney Spears. But it seems she is getting more and more annoying every time she opens her mouth. Gaah. Elizabeth - -----Original Message----- From: owner-jewel@smoe.org [mailto:owner-jewel@smoe.org] On Behalf Of michiel Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:07 AM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] the music industry is sick 5 grammys for BEYONCE i can4t believe my eyes how commercial the grammys are......for the 10th year in executive order, jewel didn4t pick up any grammy nor was she this year nominiated... how can that black stupid singer beyonce win 5 grammys??? I think she must have really laid all the producers down... i am dissapointed that once again jewel lost the battle , to get recognition for her work?? are her songs silly??? is her musical image boring??? i can4t believe what the leading award commitees doing for fucking job.. they only nominate the artists where they get paid from royalties by the crooks of management.. for me it is idiot than one singer wins 5 while you can share them better... What gives the right that one artist win 5 ??? Is beyonce amazing?? no, is she a big cow ? yeah.. does she suck ? Yeah she does.. So in the end the whole grammy awards show is a big cliche and jewel will never win this event unless..... Jewel changes image dramatically.. or Jewel walks a different path..to succes?? bye michiel www.jewelkilcher.nl the nr#1 jewel fan site ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:07:52 -0800 From: "Missy" Subject: Re: [EDA] i am just a little sad A 'little' sad? That's downplaying it a lot. You freak out everytime something semi-bad happens to Jewel. Sure, we all care about her, but chill out. She's probably not beat up about it too much. And 'bad English' is no excuse for making race an issue. Anybody else knows that race, (ie use of the word 'black') was not necessary in your little rant. Nice try, though. - - Melissa - ----- Original Message ----- From: "michiel" To: Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: [EDA] i am just a little sad > that one artist wins five and that i called beyonce a black singer was just > bad english....i wanted to say that i felt crazy that one won five awards...i > am sorry for those offended .... > > i know sometimes i talk a little crazy but that is because i am too much > dissapointed that jewel didnt win any award .. > > sorry for misunderstanding > > > michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:21:01 +1100 From: Natalie Manuel Subject: Re: [EDA] i am just a little sad At 08:27 10/02/2004, michiel wrote: >that one artist wins five and that i called beyonce a black singer was just >bad english....i wanted to say that i felt crazy that one won five awards...i >am sorry for those offended .... > >i know sometimes i talk a little crazy but that is because i am too much >dissapointed that jewel didnt win any award .. > >sorry for misunderstanding > > >michiel Well Michiel, I think you just proved Unedited very very right. Since when does Jewel's failure to win something make it ok to be so incredibly insulting to some other person? Sorry for misunderstanding? I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything, and I think you're english is good enough to understand the implications of what you said. Nat ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V9 #41 **************************