From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #384 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, September 3 2003 Volume 08 : Number 384 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Jewel selling well in Taiwan [Fredsteve ] Re: [EDA] velvet rope tour thing... [Paul Schreiber ] [EDA] Another five star 0304 review ["Chris Groves" ] [EDA] Help write a complaint letter: a Jewel Wiki [Paul Schreiber ] [EDA] RE: Velvet Rope thingy [SIGNALSYYZ@aol.com] [EDA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?answer_about_tickets?= ["=?iso-8859-1?Q?victoriached] [EDA] Re: [EDA NJC] White Stripes new vid ["Joe Kunis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:38:23 +1000 From: Fredsteve Subject: [EDA] Jewel selling well in Taiwan Well... This is kinda interesting. Jewel is doing really well in Taiwan apparently. I found this chart: http://www.icrt.com.tw/tt20/en_tt20.asp Apparently it's a listing of hit songs based on album sales in Taiwan. Intuition is #4 this week and was #2 last week. So 0304 is clearly selling in Taiwan. I think it's selling well all throughout Southeast Asia actually. I'd like to see some actual figures from that. Maybe they'll release them if it gets certified at all. Steve. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:56 -0700 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: [EDA] velvet rope tour thing... Philip wrote: > I'm a HUGE Jewel fan > and have flown all over the US to see her concerts, but I would never > "pay" to meet her.... That seems desperate and dorky. Meeting her > under > that type of circumstance wouldn't be a positive thing to me.. I just have to say that I agree, and you've described my feelings exactly. The whole thing is just ... tacky. Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 17:37:16 +0100 From: "Chris Groves" Subject: [EDA] Another five star 0304 review This is in this week's Heat magazine... In a nutshell: Omigod! What's happened to Jewel? The folksy songstress who brought us 1995's Pieces of You has gone all dance/R&B on us. But is that a good thing ? What's it like? Seriously catchy. If you liked the recent single Intuition, which combines urban grooves with a French accordion, then you'll love the direction Jewel's music is taking. Stand's funky beats and summery singalong chorus, the laid-back jazzy groove of Leave The Lights On and the techno-pop of U & Me = Love, a song Jewel originally wrote for Holly Valance - it's all good. How many good tracks? Twelve, out of 14. Best track: Today it's Leave The Lights On, yesterday it was the lazy bass-line of Fragile Heart, and tomorrow it could be Stand. It really is that sort of album. Worst track: 2 Become 1 - the track Jewel co-wrote with Guy Chambers - is a bit ordinary compared to the others. Verdict: Fresh, sexy and funky. Jewel's undergone one hell of a makeover - and we love it. ***** PAIGE TOON Chris. http://www.jewelfan.co.uk : Jewel - Pieces Of UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:13:50 -0500 From: "Chris Stoke" Subject: [EDA] Redbook mag Jewel is on the cover of Redbook magazine for October. I just saw it at my girlfriend's yesterday. It is worth reading, but nothing too special. Just the normal stuff about taking 2 years off, living in a van, growing up in alaska, the "sad," etc. She is also recognized in the mothers and shakers (or something like that) about her charity stuff. It is good too. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:34:10 -0700 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: [EDA] Help write a complaint letter: a Jewel Wiki There's been much discussion about the recent changes with Jewel's management, ticket sales, etc etc. If people want to write a complaint letter, we should collaborate on (a) getting the facts together (b) writing the letter itself To help those goals along, I've installed a wiki on my web site: http://paulschreiber.com/jewelwiki/ A Wiki is a web page that you can edit in place; you'd don't need to know HTML (or anything else) to do so. I've started the process by listing some of the changes I've noticed and writing a sentence of the letter. I'd write more, but it's 2:30 am already. :) Anyway, jump in and help out. If you have any questions, contact me offlist. Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 12:54:19 -0400 From: V Alex Brennen Subject: [EDA] RE: Music Sucks Ne0blCar@aol.com wrote: > Sales are down because the music sucks - as in not since > the late 80's > hair band sucks. Honestly as a file > sharing whore I haven't found anything worth even > stealing lately. Well 30% since 1999 is a big drop just because of the quality of music. I don't think the two are in line, I think John Mayer is very awesome and I think that Live's new album and Matchbox 20's stuff has been good as well. Heaven is an amazing song. Linkin Park has some good lyrics. There's not allot, but a decent amount, of good new stuff. Recessions have interesting effects on art and music, even local music like bands in my area and scene music like the techno on mp3.com have been kinda weak lately. 1994-1999 was an explosive time for music and art. It's not just about companies and corporate funding. I think things will get better soon. Once local music and local art starts to shake off the downturn industry music will follow. It's starting to happen already. Everyone keeps telling me to visit St. Petersburg (Leningrad) because it is the center of it all right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying information shouldn't be free. I wrote some of the p2p software that you probably use and run some of the infrastructure that helps support it. What I'm saying is that if you like heavily engineered/produced tracks like The Christmas Version of Hands with an orchestra and lots of engineer time (like I do), well someone has to pay the orchestra and the engineers and for the engineers equipment so maybe as fans we should be willing to make that investment in the hope that Jewel will produce something else that is absolutely amazing, like Hands. I recall that in the announcement for the subscription web site, the J-Team said it was in response to our feedback and requests. Which in my case is true, I'd much rather pay $39.95/year to download 12 or 24 songs and have the majority of it go to Jewel than have to buy two CD's for $18's and have Jewel get $1 or $2 per CD. If Jewel can break out of the model of the industry it will allow her to be more prolific and hopefully creative so maybe we'll get more great songs from her. I also think I sent them a note asking them to sell recordings of live performances, which would be really cool. I'd love to be able to get all the best live performances of some of my favorite Jewel songs recorded off the wire rather than with a mic from her best shows. I just hope the site supports Linux. As for music sucking - It's art man, appreciate it. For allot of people who use the p2p networks - and I'm not saying this about you personally - but for many of them, it's just amount amassing a consumable. It's not about the music or the art at all. I hear people complain all the time that music sucks or art sucks or movies suck or sci-fi sucks. Come on! They're complaining because artists aren't inspired? Well maybe they need to do something to inspire them, or maybe they need to get inspired themselves. There's only so many great pieces or art everyone gets to see in there life. It would be interesting to discuss on this list what the EDA's think those are and where the inspiration for them came from.... since so many of the EDA are artists/musicians. - VAB * the geek angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:28:00 -0400 From: SIGNALSYYZ@aol.com Subject: [EDA] RE: Velvet Rope thingy .....the whole ideal of paying to meet Jewel is so cheesy....and the price is another thing~ geez! ...i have been a fan since first seeing her in june of 1995...and it only cost $2.50!and got to talk to her also for that price LOL and i have seen her 11 times but not for these prices ....even the name " velvet rope" is so tacky sounding...maybe for $100.00 extra they will let you tune her guitars..i read the band KISS is charging $1000.00 to meet and get a picture with them...i would never pay any amount to meet anyone...i think it all comes down to greed...all of this must be the new management`s ideal.....just my 2 cents on this one.... Edward ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:22:32 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?victoriachedeau@laposte.net?=" Subject: [EDA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?answer_about_tickets?= Hey Beth It's easy, it is just not working at the moment because there's updating the whole jeweljk site.... But when you get to the screen to order tickets you just do as you would do on ticketmaster.com. Best seats available, how many tickets etc... Then you give your credit card number and they ship the tickets to you. It's only a pre-sale thing so I think they're gone when the real sale on ticketmaster begins. And also, I usually try many times to get the actual best seats before buying them. They usually show up randomly and not from best to worst. You know what I mean ? I think they're only located from the front to 20th row. Alright, Hope I wanswered your question :) Victoria Accidez au courrier ilectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34/mn) ; til : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:13:23 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: [EDA] Re: [EDA NJC] White Stripes new vid Has anyone seen the new White Stripes video? It is supposed to be a cover of some old Dusty Springfield song and from what I read features Kate Moss pole-dancing shot in B&W. When is the best time to see vids like this on MTV or is VH1or Fuse better for showing rock vids? I gotta check this one out! Joe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:37:50 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] jewel unedited my thoughts on the topic... im very disappointed. i personally have plenty of live jewel that i traded for and such. in the scheme of my collection i traded for far more than i paid for. im not about to start paying 40 dollars a month for live jewel... jewel ive either heard, seen or already own. anyway... im just really upset that they are making everyone pay for this, and its only upsetting people. im not paying... i dont get any presale... but i see this presale thing is only causing problems anyway... good luck to all you unedited perscibers who think you are getting something special. i can get all that and a bag of chips just by being a smart fan. alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #384 ***************************