From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #383 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, September 2 2003 Volume 08 : Number 383 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] whole backstage thing [shawn e williams ] [EDA] Unedited??/ Unavailable? Getting unaffordable!!! ["Sean Stevens" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:18:52 -0400 From: shawn e williams Subject: [EDA] whole backstage thing my computer is f*'d up right now and my mouse isn't showing up on the screen, so i can't go to jeweljk. anyway, can we not buy the backstage thing at ticketmaster and is it only for unedited members? thanks for your help! love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:43:50 -0400 From: "Sean Stevens" Subject: [EDA] Unedited??/ Unavailable? Getting unaffordable!!! Just must chime in. I went to Unedited today for the 1st time in a week . I couldn't believe after paying my $30 plus they were telling me to come back in a few weeks. I assume they will tack these days onto my membership? ;( Despite what I've read in other's posts I couldn't call up anything. The cost is getting out of hand for live music. Some fans can't afford to kick down $50/ plus for live shows. I hope that Jewel will support her fans and help keep ticket costs reasonable. $100 seats (though I've paid that for Jewel) exclude a sector of her fan base. Some cannot financially afford it. As a family man and with current trends, I guess my concert "seeing" days are numbered. I'm not one to whine about ticket prices. I love live music and spend too much on it. My options are dwindling, other than local bands! I certainly believe artists should be payed well b/c they enhance everyone's lives. But looking globally, and the basic needs others face on a daily basis, it seems absurd. The standard of living in this country is so high (relatively) for so many. I also must say that it is great to meet an artist you admire. However, it seems "cheesy" to pay for it, over and above the ticket cost. I've spent a good deal of money on Jewel, and turned a lot of friends onto her music, but paying to meet her just doesn't work for me. I guess it takes some of the "magic" away. I hate to think that everything can be bought. Everything has it "price". The raffles for HGH, etc. seemed like a great idea. The high price sale of "non charity" tickets seems harsh. I guess it seems to me to be more about business and less about the music. I had one personal contact w/ Mr. BB. He let me "patch in" to a show he was taping of Steve Poltz. Regardless of anything, he seemed to be "captured by the music". I think I'll miss that. As I get older, not balding :-), but feeling the years slip by, the numbers overwhelm me. I am happy for Jewel, and her current success, but obviously things will change... I fear she will be a little "farther" away from some that appreciate her greatly. My random thoughts, Take care, Sean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 04:45:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Ray Wong Subject: Re: [EDA] Velvet Rope Crap? Mike? NeOblCar@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/1/2003 3:28:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > vab@cryptnet.net writes: > > > woe. I hope you don't still feel this way. Every one > > knows that revenue's from album sales are way down > > because of piracy. > > Woe is right ... say as opposed to the Whoa you probably meant. I couldn't > let this float out there without retorting that brainwashing is a bad thing. > Sales are down because the music sucks - as in not since the late 80's hair Actually, that big accounting/managerial consulting firm released that report on the music industry's woes that places blame squarely on the music industry, for spending too much of their money trying to control online music, and not enough on trying to actually make money on it. It's like the SCO Group suing IBM for the success of linux; it has nothing to do with being in business, and everything to do with overpaid exectives looking for an easy target to blame. Last report I could find about music industry revenues showed they were still pulling in tons of money. They were just not making PROFIT because their COST of OWNING the artists and the music was too high. They would have actually made more money by allowing Napster, et al., to continue on. Of course, admitting that the record labels are all about control and not music would be too honest for the guys at the top. Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl at best.com, negativl at rayw.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #383 ***************************