From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V8 #236 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, June 3 2003 Volume 08 : Number 236 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V8 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] downloadcards [DavsAngl@aol.com] [EDA] CRAZY!!! ["michiel" ] Re: [EDA] E! 0304 Review ["Fabio (wnet)" ] Re: [EDA] download card problems? [Dave0828@aol.com] [EDA] Any review to read of 0304 is a waste of time!! ["michiel" ] [EDA] "Crazy" reply. ["Missy" ] Re: [EDA] Download Card [graywolfwla@earthlink.net] [EDA] i am sensitive ["michiel" ] Re: [EDA] i am sensitive ["Missy" ] [EDA] I am a freaking angel hehe ["michiel" ] [EDA] 0304, download card ["Shana Ward" ] [EDA] Jewel #1 at iTunes Music Store [ZT ] Re: [EDA] Playing 0304 on PC? [StuartnDee@aol.com] [EDA] Hey you two! ["Rob Hanning" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:27:18 EDT From: DavsAngl@aol.com Subject: [EDA] downloadcards for all of you who were disappointed that you didn't get a card with your pre order---Mr BB said he would find out what went wrong and rectify it. So---chill. Secondly, those of us who didn't pre- order and actually bought one at a store and did receive a card--the site isn't running completely anyway. the videos don't play no matter what you use. Sooooo, all the whining in the world is all for not. You're not missing out on something the rest of us aren't. Mary Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:29:22 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] CRAZY!!! hey missy, you don4t have to take things so seriously!! And i am not a rude person, although i shaved my hair like Andre Agassi :) But let4s be honest, even the fact that is not jewel4s team fault and even the fact that they come with a sollution , still it is a bad situation! And i am not going to walk blindfolded and just to think oh my gosh there are the great americans with their bushie leader dude and take a silence of the lambs attitude.. i am just myself, not basically changed too much. I am enjoying 0304, and i do like stand, the 2 find u song, yes u can, and 2 become 1 and the others.. so don4t call me rude or getting me of a horse, that is bullshit and unnecessary overreacting in my humble opinion.. sometimes the world doesn4t make sense michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:29:48 -0300 From: "Fabio (wnet)" Subject: Re: [EDA] E! 0304 Review They never said one good thing about Jewel. They hated This Way so why say 0304 is bad career move? Lol! Nobody takes their reviews seriously anyway... Fabio - ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: JFreaks Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: [EDA] E! 0304 Review > They're idiots anyway.. > > "Our Review: > Talk about bad career moves. Having exhausted the whole sensitive chick folk > angle (and one bad poetry career), Jewel spins out of control and discovers > drum machines for the synth-ed out 0304. Aside from the razor-thin, > plastic-sounding tunes, it's hard to determine what's more disturbing, her > acid-hued cover photo or the Prince-y song titles like "Run 2 U," "2 Become > 1" and "U & Me = Love" (no foolin'). She sounds like she's 13 on most of the > songs and, at best, she gets about as deep as a slightly deeper Kylie > Minogue. It's not even fun. It's just kind of annoying and dated in that > whole teen-pop/'80s vibe. Dude, even Britney's over this stuff. > > Our Grade: > D" > > -- > Scott > http://scott.rocket-fish.org/ > http://syd.rocket-fish.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:21:04 EDT From: Dave0828@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] download card problems? I suspect that the videos aren't working yet - I've tried each one at different times today - as well I've tried each with the Real, Windows Hi and Windows Lo and can't get any of them to work with any of the videos. However, I doubt that the site is crashing since so few people got the download cards - I just figure that whoever prepared the site doesn't have the links working properly yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:34:28 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] Any review to read of 0304 is a waste of time!! a review is always a point being told by one specific person...it is always tendency minded, and all the reviews do just one thing, they love it or they hate it.. and in the end no one cares about reviews, it might help to sell a couple of cd more or less, and it might break or make someones career... so i don4t read all the reviews of 0304 because i hate to be flashed by someones opinion just because he is supposed to be a great editor for a crappy magazine.. It is all the responsibility of the artist to make a good record, and than the fans will enjoy it.... and let all the reviewers do their naughty horney jobs, and think they are important...which they are goddamn not :) bye michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:34:51 -0300 From: "Fabio (wnet)" Subject: Re: [EDA] jewel bonus card photo site You know, that picture would have made a great cover for the album! sorry, I just had to say something... Fabio - ----- Original Message ----- From: michiel To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: [EDA] jewel bonus card photo site > http://jewelbonus.com/index1.htm > > i thought that was a cool image from her 0304 intuition australian cover cd > :) > > bye > > michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:36:31 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel on Access Hollywood Was Jewel on Access Hollywood yesterday? Please tell me it hasn't aired yet until today! Joe K - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:38:50 -0300 From: "Fabio (wnet)" Subject: [EDA] download cards... I just wanted to say don't you think Mr. BB and the rest of Jewel's management are just as dissapointed as you all? You know, Mr. BB is always so nice and always answers our questions. I think we should give him more credit and just wait. Nobody will die just because you couldn't see live versions of New Wild West or Life Uncommon. It's not that big deal, IMO. Anyway, just my 2 cents... Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:39:43 -0700 From: "Missy" Subject: [EDA] "Crazy" reply. I'm not taking things personally. I'm irritated because almost every post you make, which is about thirty every day, is negative. You are complaining about SOMETHING or insulting SOMETHING. It's ridiculous. And I'm NOT over reacting, I'm probably speaking on behalf of a lot of the members of this list when I say that you can be really really agitating. You over react constantly about everything, so get off it. My not so humble Opinion. M. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "michiel" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: [EDA] CRAZY!!! > hey missy, > > > you don4t have to take things so seriously!! > > And i am not a rude person, although i shaved my hair like Andre Agassi :) > > But let4s be honest, even the fact that is not jewel4s team fault and even the > fact that they come with a sollution , still it is a bad situation! > > And i am not going to walk blindfolded and just to think oh my gosh there are > the great americans with their bushie leader dude and take a silence of the > lambs attitude.. > > i am just myself, not basically changed too much. I am enjoying 0304, and i do > like stand, the 2 find u song, yes u can, and 2 become 1 and the others.. > > so don4t call me rude or getting me of a horse, that is bullshit and > unnecessary overreacting in my humble opinion.. > > sometimes the world doesn4t make sense > > michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: graywolfwla@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [EDA] Download Card Of course, my on-line purchase of 0304 from the Jewel site had no download card. (I miss J-Merch!) No download cards were offered at my Best Buy, either. Since I'm going to be traveling and away from a computer starting Thursday morning through next Tuesday, it looks as though Atlantic Records will get away without fulfilling its commitment, to me at least. Grrr (<--- venting). - -=-Larry-=- - -------Original Message------- From: kristenkelley@att.net Sent: 06/03/03 01:18 PM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] Download Card > > Anymore news on what is going on about those download cards? i bought mine at Strawberries and it didn't have one either! ~Kris~ The singing MA Angel - -- "Sometimes I take your picture, and I turn it to the wall. 'Cuz you are still a cliff and baby I still know how to fall." ~Kris Delmhorst~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:43:22 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] i am sensitive and i like to stay that way.... I am not rude.. I am not crazy.. I am loyal... I don4t take everything for granted.... I know i am dedicated... I know i am enthusiastic... So therefor i have the right to make critical comments about this download card matter.. I am not acquising anyone of anything...i just want to add that it is all very coincidence that people buy the cd and expect a download card and end up with nothing.. I am not blind , so i saw the answer from alan on mike4s question, but still the situation is not perfect... and that is what i make comments about... I am not a cattle on the ranch, that can be learned a trick and that you obey... i obey to my feelings and my mind, and i am quite smart :) bye michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:44:38 -0700 From: "Missy" Subject: Re: [EDA] i am sensitive Wow. Modest too. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "michiel" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: [EDA] i am sensitive > and i like to stay that way.... > > I am not rude.. > > I am not crazy.. > > I am loyal... > > I don4t take everything for granted.... > > I know i am dedicated... > > I know i am enthusiastic... > > So therefor i have the right to make critical comments about this download > card matter.. > > I am not acquising anyone of anything...i just want to add that it is all very > coincidence that people buy the cd and expect a download card and end up with > nothing.. > > I am not blind , so i saw the answer from alan on mike4s question, but still > the situation is not perfect... > > and that is what i make comments about... > > I am not a cattle on the ranch, that can be learned a trick and that you > obey... > > i obey to my feelings and my mind, and i am quite smart :) > > bye > > michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:50:50 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] I am a freaking angel hehe hehe jewelfans, You might me call a big bouncer, but i am what i am ...you get what you see. I am a dutch fan, and i am trying to say what i think is best. People don4t need to take always my comments so seriously, and that i am negative is not always true! I have been always fanatic and optimistic when it concerns jewel , the alaskan pride and singer . I am asking questions which need to be answered!! I am Colin Powel and need to secure the jewelfan base hehe! That was a funny comment, but what i want to say it is not fair to say that i am a negative pessimitic person. Because goddamn i am not!! I am optimistic, i am charming with my shaved Agassi haircut and i am a dedicated jewelfan. People on this list should watch less zombie movies :) hehe , that was a joke ! not literarry meant to cause any people4s offended state of mind :) hehe Michiel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:53:23 -0400 From: "Scott" Subject: [EDA] Playing 0304 on PC? Does anyone know how to play 0304 on the computer? I can't get the files to show up on anything.. My computer speakers are the best sound system I have, and I want to listen to it on here.. =( - -- Scott http://scott.rocket-fish.org/ http://syd.rocket-fish.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:01:13 -0400 From: "Shana Ward" Subject: [EDA] 0304, download card hey everyone! i bought my cd at target today for 9.99. i was hoping the entire way home that it had the download card in it. it did! it seems that everyone is having better luck getting the download card when buying the cd in a store. i hope that the problem is fixed for all of you that pre-ordered, though. i'm sure that it will be. other thoughts.....i think that the album is great. i love it and there isn't really one song on there that i'd skip when listening. i'm not yet sure if it's my favorite album; there's just something about all of her albums that i love. there's something in each one that nothing else could top, even if it is only one song. that's why i love jewel. she's not afraid of trying new things with her music/style/lyrics. she does what she loves and doesn't worry about pleasing everyone else. i respect her even more, just because of that. i've loved her since poy was released and though there's nothing better than her and a guitar; i'm so glad that she's trying to give her fans such a variety. she's showing us more glimpses of her talent. 0304 goes from having this sweet innocent sound, electronic '30-40s feel, to the raspy jewel we hear in lmjlma. something that she said of nina simone comes to mind, which is that her voice has this sound that can just take you over the top within a second...... you can know her songs inside and out, but you get that same feeling everytime you listen. as for some other things being said, mostly by michiel, i was and am truly offended. michiel, this list is not a place for you to come and complain or to use such language. you go from calling poor jewel a sellout to practically lusting after her. see the problem here? i was going to ignore your posts, but i have to get this off my chest. i didn't join this list to hear how mad you are at jewel's management, to hear you brag, or to hear your fantasies of jewel. i'm beginning to wonder if maybe she didn't write "haunted" because of you? just don't say anything if you can't say anything nice. i'm sick of you attacking the fans on here verbally and i'm sick of you attacking jewel. it's so simple, if you dislike the list or jewel, then leave and don't listen to her music. please don't rake me over the coals for this. i'm defending everyone here and i know that i'm not the only one that was offended. have a good evening everyone and happy listening! =) - -shana _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:03:38 -0700 (PDT) From: ZT Subject: [EDA] Jewel #1 at iTunes Music Store Good news from the iTunes Music Store!!! 0304 is the number one selling album today!! Just wanted to let everyone know. - -Matt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:06:41 EDT From: StuartnDee@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Playing 0304 on PC? In a message dated 6/3/03 5:53:00 PM, scott@rocket-fish.org writes: << Does anyone know how to play 0304 on the computer? I can't get the files to show up on anything.. My computer speakers are the best sound system I have, and I want to listen to it on here.. =( >> It plays on my computer great but I'm on a macintosh not on a pc. The video is awesome!! Can you play the video but not the songs ??? Dee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:07:12 -0500 From: "Rob Hanning" Subject: [EDA] Hey you two! Missy & Michiel, First of all, I'm going to say this for the whole list to read, because I'm SURE I'm not the only one who feels this way. A release day hissy fit? (WOOHOO!!!) ;) Come on, now. Is that really necessary? Don't we all have something better to do today? My advice -- Missy... stop reading Michiel's posts. I did it about a month after I joined the list. I check up on him and read one post every month or two. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt & say that it's just that his grasp of our language is not the best, but he never ceases to say things that are crude, sexist, or just plain ignorant, so... just ignore him. So he says things you don't like. Big deal. Just don't read it. Michiel -- Say what you want. It doesn't really bother me. I have better things to worry about... things that happen off the internet, in my real life. Besides... that's why we have junk mail filters & delete buttons. Chances are I didn't even read it. But, think about this for a second... did it ever occur to you that if you'd just shut up once in a while, you wouldn't annoy people so much? Perhaps you don't care, but... I'm just sayin'. Okay, I'm done. And if you got the significance of my parenthetical exclamation, email me privately & I just might send you a prize. ;) ...Rob _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V8 #236 ***************************